₦airaland Forum

BeginsAtHome:
Deacons and deaconesses can be chosen from the ranks of Ifa worshippers as well.

Obaship is a TRADITIONAL institution and MUST remain so!!!

That is a fat lie.
Oba is a king over all the people in his domain,not only on traditionalists.
We have kings in the Biible and Quran.It is not the traditionalists that own them but the entire citizens.
The traditionalists should leave all the kings alone and face their deities or whatever they worship.
You always say culture.Is culture static?
No, culture is not static. It is a dynamic and ever changing entity, constantly influenced by various factors and evolving over time. While some aspects of culture may appear stable, they are still subject to change, even if those changes are gradual or subtle.

CoronaVirusPro:
What happens when Governor’s starts electing Óbá’s.

The Yoruba tradition is about to be exterminated.

The pope was buried in the tradition of Roman Catholics. They observed every rite that dates back centuries. The British royal family does same.

African wannabe’s will tell you their own tradition is outdated.

not entirely true though ancient British tradition wasn't Christian either, but the queen was buried in a Christian ceremony, I understand your sentiment also, I believe what the oba is trying to say is that ancient kingship was more of a leadership stuff than a spiritual stuff, to some extent he is also right.

fmlala:
A Muslim that wants leadership position can become an Imam and a Christian Pope if desperately desires to lead but for the traditional stool, leave that for the traditionalist ( An Oba in Yorubaland is called Alase Igbakeji Orisa)


I am a Christian and would rather leave that part for the traditionalist or I join politics and become Governor or President to serve my people.

Imam is not for everyone but those in his mosque just like pastor.Even the Pope is not for all Christians but Catholics.
A king is for all people in his domain...Muslims,Christians and all other faiths.
Traditionalists can't ascribe the king to themselves.

BeginsAtHome:
Deacons and deaconesses can be chosen from the ranks of Ifa worshippers as well.

Obaship is a TRADITIONAL institution and MUST remain so!!!

The king is actually right and logical. Things have changed and backward traditions and cultures should also change. Backwardness is not an heritage. i would have suggested that they pick traditionalists only to rule, but that is also not inclusive except they only want to rule over traditionalists like themselves.

Dotherightthing:
Wrong!

The stools predate the western religions in Yorubaland and have always been based on our traditional religion.

I am a born again christian.

Jesus said 'Give to caesar what belongs to caesar'

If you cannot be a traditionalist, stay away from the Yoruba thrones.

wrong the stool is a leadership responsibility and not a spiritual one, the reason you feel this way may be partly because the traditional leadership in Nigeria today has not constitutional power over their kingdoms if say Nigeria wasn't Colonized your president would have been your traditional ruler it won't matter much what his religion is, take the ruling house of the UAE and the Saudi royal family they aren't that much costodian of Islam they just run their countries with he monarchical system even morrocco too. But I believe in the preservation of culture.

When I see comments like this, I marvel at the wisdom of the Chinese for caging these two very useless Abrahamic religion

DolapoX:
Only in Nigeria we see things like this

Is it necessary we modernize our culture

No, let's continue killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades and so on so that we don't modernize our culture.

Image123:
The king is actually right and logical. Things have changed and backward traditions and cultures should also change. Backwardness is not an heritage. i would have suggested that they pick traditionalists only to rule, but that is also not inclusive except they only want to rule over traditionalists like themselves.

Nobody wants to be African
Not Black Americans, not even Africans!
We hate our hair, skin, names, language, every damn thing, so ur comments are not in the least surprising!

MimiBiggs:
The Oluwo of Iwoland, Oba Abdulrasheed Adewale Akanbi has reiterated his earlier sentiments about Yoruba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHfy2x8-nL0?si=RJ0n_mD_fiicI5RN

This is what you get when you bring someone not raised in the Yoruba culture to become the Oba. He was imported from outside Nigeria so he is ignorant of the intricacies of that office. Not even the late Awujale will say this.

Ọba is a traditional institution. It's the only one who can belong to all the traditional arms of government. If he's not inducted traditionally, how can he now lead them? It's not by force to be a Traditional Ruler o

StaffofOrayan:
Nobody wants to be African
Not Black Americans, not even Africans!
We hate our hair, skin, names, language, every damn thing, so ur comments are not in the least surprising!

Sorry for your self hate but that's not what this is about. It's about freedom from needless and useless practices. A full grown man can't choose how he wants to be buried because?

MimiBiggs:
The Oluwo of Iwoland, Oba Abdulrasheed Adewale Akanbi has reiterated his earlier sentiments about Yoruba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHfy2x8-nL0?si=RJ0n_mD_fiicI5RN

thank god no b gen z dey spoil tradition now

Image123:
Sorry for your self hate but that's not what this is about. It's about freedom from needless and useless practices. A full grown man can't choose how he wants to be buried because?

It's about integrity. You can do your thing as a private citizen but when you have signed up , you can quit now before it's too late.

Many of you are not even qualified for the roles you signed up for in the first place. You can be King to your wife and children but King to a traditional community is on a whole new scale. Don't do it if you can't do it.

Let those who can carry the burden do it. These guys are not your mate

[quote author=Image123 post=136202030]No, let's continue killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades and so on so that we don't modernize our culture. [/quote


Self hate is a terrible thing I swear,
Your idea of modernization is getting rid of any semblance of African culture and adopt European or Arab culture

Image123:
Sorry for your self hate but that's not what this is about. It's about freedom from needless and useless practices. A full grown man can't choose how he wants to be buried because?

Because institutions beats the single desire of a man!
This is common sense!

[quote author=StaffofOrayan post=136202208][/quote]So killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades are your idea of African culture. Interesting.

fmlala:
A Muslim that wants leadership position can become an Imam and a Christian Pope if desperately desires to lead but for the traditional stool, leave that for the traditionalist ( An Oba in Yorubaland is called Alase Igbakeji Orisa)


I am a Christian and would rather leave that part for the traditionalist or I join politics and become Governor or President to serve my people.

Why don't you advice pastor in Ogbomosho to leave it for traditional people... As he is a deem christian

DUTY:
Eru lo je abudu.. See this oba amugbo, eru lasan lasan

So pastor in Ogbomosho too na eru abi..
Why don't you advice the pastor that it's only traditional people entitled to oba position in yoruba land .. or did you condemned him as a Christian

StaffofOrayan:
Because institutions beats the single desire of a man!
This is common sense!

It's not institution and it's not a good one if you insist. Let them go and do institution with government or constitution if they get mind. Kill three virgins, shave innocent people's head and make them sleep with dead is not institution but backwardness.

Expanse2020:
So pastor in Ogbomosho too na eru abi..
Why don't you advice the pastor that it's only traditional people entitled to oba position in yoruba land .. or did you condemned him as a Christian

Many of them are actually begged or sometimes forced and coerced to be traditional rulers. The traditionalists usually can't find someone competent, rich or powerful enough among themselves.

CoronaVirusPro:
What happens when Governor’s starts electing Óbá’s.

The Yoruba tradition is about to be exterminated.

The pope was buried in the tradition of Roman Catholics. They observed every rite that dates back centuries. The British royal family does same.

African wannabe’s will tell you their own tradition is outdated.

Pastor in Ogbomosho Na governor appoint him
Alafin na governor appoint him
Stop deceiving yourself... Which ifa or traditional de appoint people for where

Say an ifa no see local prince on ground before he go Dublin, go america, go US to pick this people....

Just because a king says his mind all of una from Christian doom de cry for everywhere ..

FreeStuffsNG:
It's about integrity. You can do your thing as a private citizen but when you have signed up , you can quit now before it's too late.

Many of you are not even qualified for the roles you signed up for in the first place. You can be King to your wife and children but King to a traditional community is on a whole new scale. Don't do it if you can't do it.

Let those who can carry the burden do it. These guys are not your mate

Who are the you guys that are not Awujale's mate? By what metrics? So any riff raff that claim traditionalist is suddenly above every one in his village, because the majority have seen and lived with better enlightenment? Do you know how many are actually cajoled, begged or even sometimes threatened to come and be chief or king in their villages?

MimiBiggs:
The Oluwo of Iwoland, Oba Abdulrasheed Adewale Akanbi has reiterated his earlier sentiments about Yoruba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHfy2x8-nL0?si=RJ0n_mD_fiicI5RN

Exactly. The traditional religions are just another part of the community. They don't own the stools.

mfm04622:
I don't understand why this is hard to understand!!!
Yoruba thrones are not reserved for traditional worshippers!!! They are leadership positions, not religion positions!

Was Alafin Sango of old Oyo Empire a Christian or Muslim? I am a Christian but I believe our culture must be preserved.

Max24:
Was Alafin Sango of old Oyo Empire a Christian or Muslim? I am a Christian but I believe our culture must be preserved.

Goan preserve it naa. And why are you a Christian - I mean, who will now preserve it? Abi you want to enter heaven while some people are left to preserve traditional worship and sent to hell?

Image123:
It's not institution and it's not a good one if you insist. Let them go and do institution with government or constitution if they get mind. Kill three virgins, shave innocent people's head and make them sleep with dead is not institution but backwardness.

Where does that happen if not in Nollywood?

Image123:
So killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades are your idea of African culture. Interesting.

That is ur own idea not mine!
You mean when you hear 'African culture ' this is what comes to ur mind?

The elephant in the room is this: is it ok to eat the body parts of another human being?

Yes or no?

JuanDeDios:
Goan preserve it naa. And why are you a Christian - I mean, who will now preserve it? Abi you want to enter heaven while some people are left to preserve traditional worship and sent to hell?

Most of us in the SW are not fanatical about religion the more reason many people disagree with what Awujale did. Some of us are disappointed in what he did.

Max24:
Most of us in the SW are not fanatical about religion the more reason many people disagree with what Awujale did. Some of us are disappointed in what he did.

You're probably disappointed because you don't understand WHY he did it.

Image123:
Many of them are actually begged or sometimes forced and coerced to be traditional rulers. The traditionalists usually can't find someone competent, rich or powerful enough among themselves.

But we all know that is ifa de choose the oba.. what happened to ifa, ifa no like poor people again, na foreign money ifa de use ball too this days abi...
Don't even think those people begged...
Rather they call them and begging them to come have the title