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Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by Tochi360: 9:30am On Jul 25, 2025
Sellfish:
Lmao


But they were quick to accept a ceasefire on Iran, as Dem see say Iran dey return the wotowoto fire for fire grin


When the strong chokes the strong, peace must come hell or high water...but when the strong are choking the weak, the strong can choose to abandon peace anytime, as is the case with Israel and Gaza grin
Dey play grin Minus USA wey beg on the behalf of IRAN,by now We for don dey here cries of #freeiran everywhere grin grin

Even the Iran President don first collect for him leg,na him left yansh be IDF next target grin
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by CaseSensitive(m):
Unbiased1:
People don't know that this war is a huge source of income for Hamas and UNWRA. No humanitarian crisis means no donations so Hamas prefers Palestinians to keep dying to keep the aid money flowing. Yasser Arafat died and left 4 billion dollars for his family without owning a single business. Where do you think all that money came from? Palestinians are what we call "forever refugees". The day they seize to be refugees, their aid money stops coming which means no money for their corrupt leaders to spend while living in Qatar and Turkey.

Israel has already cleared up 80% of Gaza for a so-called buffer zone and is now marching into Dier a bala which is one of the last few Gazan neighbourhoods that have not really felt any major impact in this war. Israel will soon crush whatever is left of Gaza, let's see how they get a Palestinian state when Israel controls 90% of Gaza and over 65% of the West Bank.
What people don’t know? No. what YOU don’t know is that this war has never been about aid scams or corrupt leaders in Qatar. That’s just lazy propaganda to distract from the real agenda: wiping Gaza off the map and making a Palestinian state impossible. Israel isn’t “clearing buffer zones”, it’s bulldozing homes, bombing civilians, and starving people into submission. That’s not defense, it’s ethnic cleansing in broad daylight.

UNRWA exists because Palestinians were expelled and never allowed back. You can’t blame people for being refugees when the very state that displaced them refuses to let them return. That’s like burning someone’s house down and then mocking them for living in a tent.

And please spare us the recycled Arafat story, meanwhile, Netanyahu and his cronies are under corruption charges right now, and Israel is getting billions in US taxpayer money to flatten schools and hospitals. But sure, keep ranting about “aid money” while kids in Gaza are eating grass to survive.
This isn’t about Hamas getting rich, it’s about Israel using every excuse to drag this war out, crush Gaza completely, and make sure Palestine stays a dream. The only people getting rich off this war are weapons manufacturers and the politicians who profit endless bloodshed.
So yeah, that’s what people don’t know. Or maybe they do, and they’re just too comfortable ignoring it because agenda must agend - Western media been working overtime and people gobble it down their throat without historical facts.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by aloma007(m): 9:35am On Jul 25, 2025
wanimo:
the whole leftist prefer to leave the major issues prolonging this conflict.

Hamas is intentionally sacrificing Palestinians
No sir, your opinion seems like a sponsored propaganda. Would you ever agree to such? I understand that there could be a bought version of Hamas but the negotiation is openly debatable. How could you expect Hamas to concede signing documents declaring Gaza and the entire West bank shall remain territories under Israel as main status quo ? Its why the mainstream media turned the story
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by hotseat: 9:39am On Jul 25, 2025
For the umpteenth time, let it be stated that Hamas must first and foremost do the needful by releasing all the remaining hostages living or dead before any modicum of peace could return to the Strip and the West Bank.


Prolonging their captivity only gives the State of Israel the latitude to keep intensifying the pains and trauma of the Palestinians.


The blame should be heaped on Hamas for their continued intransigence and recalcitrance.


For those who have ears, let them hear!



@hotseat
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by aloma007(m): 9:41am On Jul 25, 2025
CaseSensitive:
What people don’t know? No. what you don’t know is that this war has never been about aid scams or corrupt leaders in Qatar. That’s just lazy propaganda to distract from the real agenda: wiping Gaza off the map and making a Palestinian state impossible. Israel isn’t “clearing buffer zones”, it’s bulldozing homes, bombing civilians, and starving people into submission. That’s not defense, it’s ethnic cleansing in broad daylight.

UNRWA exists because Palestinians were expelled and never allowed back. You can’t blame people for being refugees when the very state that displaced them refuses to let them return. That’s like burning someone’s house down and then mocking them for living in a tent.

And please spare us the recycled Arafat story, meanwhile, Netanyahu and his cronies are under corruption charges right now, and Israel is getting billions in US taxpayer money to flatten schools and hospitals. But sure, keep ranting about “aid money” while kids in Gaza are eating grass to survive.
This isn’t about Hamas getting rich, it’s about Israel using every excuse to drag this war out, crush Gaza completely, and make sure Palestine stays a dream. The only people getting rich off this war are weapons manufacturers and the politicians who profit endless bloodshed.
So yeah, that’s what people don’t know. Or maybe they do, and they’re just too comfortable ignoring it because agenda must agend - Western media been working overtime and people gobble it down their throat without historical facts.
You hit the nail on that piece bro. These Israeli and U.S online defenders have all been bought through dented brainwashing of religious sentiments as excuse. I'm sure they'd never support Israel and its backers if they were to be in Palestinians' shoes. But thats if they are able to know the Palestinians' stories shunning their brainwashers for individual researches of justified truths.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by Originalsly: 9:43am On Jul 25, 2025
If you can ...put sentiments aside ... and the propaganda aside... then think about this with an open mind. Steve Witkoff is a Jew ... one who last year had a problem with Biden because. Biden refused to send certain bombs to Israel. Do you really believe that this man will be negotiating in good faith? Do you think he should be the the negotiator? This alone should tell you that any negotiations with the Palestinians will fail ....negotiations are never in good faith ...regardless of country they're held in . What we wouldn't hear are the conditions set out in the "negotiations". If you understand the US is controlled by Israel ... and that Israel wants all Palestinians out of Gaza ...then you'll understand why these peace talks all fail. We are pulling out because Hamas doesn't want to agree. ... can you say their disagreement? .. don't you think you should know before saying who really doesn't want peace?

There are Jews....and there are Israelis like Netanyahu who are not Jews but imposters...European imposters who cannot trace their ancestry to the region. A Black man in South America can say he is African .. Igbo/Yoruba and trace his ancestry back to Africa. Israelis can't...Jews can back up their claim. And we wonder why Jews do not support Israel ... do not get enlisted ..do not fly the Israeli flag but can be found. supporting the Palestinians. And for those shouting Israelis are God's Chosen people... but wonder why your Pastors don't go preaching in the Holy Land ... nor talk about it? ...one for you.

Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ledaman: 9:43am On Jul 25, 2025
Father4all:
One thing about Israel and Americans is that they lied too much. Children of of God indeed
They would promise A and act B.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by qtx(m): 9:47am On Jul 25, 2025
obedience4:
Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrqrz857wgo
I know Israel is fighting for the release of hostages taken by Hamas; however, I don't know what Hamas is fighting for. Is it that they want to keep the hostages, or do they want Israel to vacate Gaza first? What are Hamas's conditions? Because it does not make sense to me that civilians are dying and Hamas is still standing their ground.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ledaman: 9:54am On Jul 25, 2025
CaseSensitive:
Honestly, it’s hard not to see the US and Israel walking out of the Doha talks as more of a political move than a breakdown caused solely by Hamas. The language from the US envoy calling Hamas "selfish" and not acting in good faith, feels more like a setup to shift blame than a genuine reflection of the negotiation dynamics. Especially since even Israeli officials admitted there was “no collapse” and Hamas said they were still keen to continue.

Let’s not forget the wider context. The US keeps invoking Oct 7, a horrific day, no doubt, but ignores the decades of occupation, blockade, and dispossession that created this powder keg in the first place. Macron’s statement about recognising Palestine may feel like a slap to some in Israel, but it’s more of a long-overdue correction than an insult. Recognition of Palestinian rights shouldn’t be held hostage by one violent episode, as terrible as it was.

And then there’s the so-called "Trump Gaza" vision which is a Dubai-style redevelopment that can only happen once Gaza is cleared of resistance and much of its population weakened or displaced. It’s not conspiracy theory; there are actual reports that some elites have eyes on Gaza’s coast for future projects. That won’t happen unless the current devastation continues. So yes, the US dragging its feet on a ceasefire might align with those long-term plans, whether it’s about political leverage, Iran containment, or future business opportunities.

Meanwhile, civilians are dying by the thousands, starving, and being shot trying to get food. The US keeps backing Israel under the pretext of fighting Hamas, but the human cost is staggering. At some point, you have to ask: is this still about hostages and security, or is something much larger and darker playing out?
Majority don't know that it's beyond rescue of prisoners in Gaza.
Their aims and objectives is to cease Gaza from Palestinians or Gazans.
They are just trying to manipulate people thinking Hamas are the bad eggs.
Hamas proposed full withdrawal and complete ceasefire in phases, Satanyahoo and his allies refused that Hamas must be crushed completely.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by mastermaestro(m): 9:54am On Jul 25, 2025
Father4all:
One thing about Israel and Americans is that they lied too much. Children of of God indeed
Release the hostages dead or alive! Why is this so hard for Hamas? Once the hostages are reieased, Israel's revenge ceases to have justification. Make una dey run up and down with nonsensical statements.

As it appears, Gaza and Rafah are gone for good. All thanks to Hamas for helping Netanyau achieve his lifelong ambition of erasing the idea of a Palestinian statehood.

This life, the strong will always choke the weak if given the slightest chance. That's why the weak must avoid going into a conflict with the strong. Look at Ukraine. The same mistake. Fighting a stronger opponent instead of making concessions to end the war. Soon, Trump will pull out and Europe will have to face Putin alone. With the way the war is going, Putin is heading to Kiev.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by qtx(m): 9:55am On Jul 25, 2025
Originalsly:
If you can ...put sentiments aside ... and the propaganda aside... then think about this with an open mind. Steve Witkoff is a Jew ... one who last year had a problem with Biden because. Biden refused to send certain bombs to Israel. Do you really believe that this man will be negotiating in good faith? Do you think he should be the the negotiator? This alone should tell you that any negotiations with the Palestinians will fail ....negotiations are never in good faith ...regardless of country they're held in . What we wouldn't hear are the conditions set out in the "negotiations". If you understand the US is controlled by Israel ... and that Israel wants all Palestinians out of Gaza ...then you'll understand why these peace talks all fail. We are pulling out because Hamas doesn't want to agree. ... can you say their disagreement? .. don't you think you should know before saying who really doesn't want peace?

There are Jews....and there are Israelis like Netanyahu who are not Jews but imposters...European imposters who cannot trace their ancestry to the region. A Black man in South America can say he is African .. Igbo/Yoruba and trace his ancestry back to Africa. Israelis can't...Jews can back up their claim. And we wonder why Jews do not support Israel ... do not get enlisted ..do not fly the Israeli flag but can be found. supporting the Palestinians. And for those shouting Israelis are God's Chosen people... but wonder why your Pastors don't go preaching in the Holy Land ... nor talk about it? ...one for you.
I think you are already biased. bc of that, your write-up is not making much sense. You wrote based on speculation without proof. We all do not have details of the terms of the negotiation that made Hamas disagree, but you already sound like you have a copy of the terms with you. No na. Also, how can you say Israel controls America?
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by BreakingNews21: 9:55am On Jul 25, 2025
The leaders of both of those countries are facing very strong legal problems back in their respective countries. They need all manner of deflection and distractions away from their personal legal issues. Or perhaps illegal issues.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by udemzyudex(m): 9:56am On Jul 25, 2025
Hamas representatives don't mean well for the people of Gaza.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by Breaker001: 9:56am On Jul 25, 2025
OP, your headline is not in sync with what you have written in the body of your post. Your headline looks deceptive to me, to say the least. I don't know if that is intentional. 😎
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ledaman: 9:57am On Jul 25, 2025
Unbiased1:
People don't know that this war is a huge source of income for Hamas and UNWRA. No humanitarian crisis means no donations so Hamas prefers Palestinians to keep dying to keep the aid money flowing. Yasser Arafat died and left 4 billion dollars for his family without owning a single business. Where do you think all that money came from? Palestinians are what we call "forever refugees". The day they seize to be refugees, their aid money stops coming which means no money for their corrupt leaders to spend while living in Qatar and Turkey.

Israel has already cleared up 80% of Gaza for a so-called buffer zone and is now marching into Dier a bala which is one of the last few Gazan neighbourhoods that have not really felt any major impact in this war. Israel will soon crush whatever is left of Gaza, let's see how they get a Palestinian state when Israel controls 90% of Gaza and over 65% of the West Bank.
Are you not ashamed of writing this?
If someone should send you parking from your father's house, will you be happy?
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by bigpicture001: 9:59am On Jul 25, 2025
Mirasteel:
Stop believing nonsense western media that is controlled by Jews, Hamas wants the war to end but it's the genocidal Netanyahu that wants the war to continue because they have plans of taking Gaza from Palestinians that's why there's currently genocide and starvation.
They are using the same method that Nazis used on them during world war 2 for Palestinians.
So why not Hamas release hostages at least for the benefit of doubt and see what isreal will do..?

So that the whole. World will b justified in asking isreal to stop
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by bigpicture001: 10:01am On Jul 25, 2025
ledaman:
Are you not ashamed of writing this?
If someone should send you parking from your father's house, will you be happy?
Whose father's land is it..? Isreal has a big history there ND not Palestine...

Palestine are Arabs... There was no Arab there in the beginning... It was migrated Arabians that fought and win over the indigenous ppl of Palestinian and started to call themselves Palestinians....


Just like in northern Nigeria
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ledaman: 10:05am On Jul 25, 2025
I have mentioned it severally on this platform, as long as there is no two state solution, it would be an illusion.
Do you expect the Jewish mediator to be fair in statement with Hamsa?
Hamas mentioned permanent ceasefire in stages and release of prisoners in stages also,
But they refused only temporary ceasefire
Then the war would continue .
And you expect them to accept such kangaroo plans!
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by BreakingNews21: 10:14am On Jul 25, 2025
Could this be a deflection or detraction away from the legal problems of a couple of high ranking politicians? Seems very probable without naming any names.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by frog12: 10:14am On Jul 25, 2025
GADDHAFI talks, dem send NATO to kill am.
NETANYAHU kill 50k palestine, NATO no fit sniff.

just remember, US and ISRAEL dey cause genocide
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by erniok(m): 10:20am On Jul 25, 2025
helinues:
Cart before the horse. A matter that will still end up in a round table discussion but they would rather prefer to massage their egos first
They want to demonize Hamas and have them running to the table very desperate.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by SuperEagles: 10:25am On Jul 25, 2025
As Hamas continue to hold on to the hostages let isreal continue it genocide. Isreal should not stop till the whole know it for the genocidal state it is.




ComeToJesus:
At this rate, I dont know what to say. This is an illegal industry created and run by Nwanyis in the south east.
larryUG:
This is for those saying Israel is committing a Genocide, why is Hamas refusing to release the hostages?
Release the hostages and put an end to the destruction of the Palestinian people.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by zinaunreal(m): 10:25am On Jul 25, 2025
You go to peoples land, steal the land and have the guts to sit down and negotiate. America a core land grabber without shame. Exterminated indians and did thesame to other arabs. This small country called palestine is your waterloo
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by D00msDay(m): 10:28am On Jul 25, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Hamas is putting bullets in children's head.
Hamas is bombing women taking shelter under tents.
Hamas is opening fire on people looking for aid.
Hamas is striking Catholic Church
Hamas is killing journalist
Hamas is killing aid Workers.
Hamas.. Hamas... Hamas....
Who is holding hostages?
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ElevationD: 10:31am On Jul 25, 2025
Mirasteel:
Stop believing nonsense western media that is controlled by Jews, Hamas wants the war to end but it's the genocidal Netanyahu that wants the war to continue because they have plans of taking Gaza from Palestinians that's why there's currently genocide and starvation.
They are using the same method that Nazis used on them during world war 2 for Palestinians.
You don’t believe western media and your source of information is the same western media? You don’t believe western media and yet your means of communication and informs were conceived and constructed by the same western people?

Seeing the plan of Netanyahu, why is Hamas helping him to achieve it? Knowing the intention of Netanyahu, is it not commonsense for Hamas to completely disarm as required, and put an end to that move. Seeing that Palestinians have been completely boxed into the corner and the citizens now very completely exhausted, why would Hamas not give up, releasing the Israeli hostages, taking advantage of the outrage of the rest of the world, secure truce on lasting terms? By the way, why did Hamas attack Israel in the first place on the 7th of October 2023? That reckless move brought the Middle East to a brink, remember?
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by wanimo: 10:31am On Jul 25, 2025
aloma007:
No sir, your opinion seems like a sponsored propaganda. Would you ever agree to such? I understand that there could be a bought version of Hamas but the negotiation is openly debatable. How could you expect Hamas to concede signing documents declaring Gaza and the entire West bank shall remain territories under Israel as main status quo ? Its why the mainstream media turned the story
you can show me any portion of the agreement which corroborate this your opinion
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ElevationD: 10:34am On Jul 25, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Hamas is putting bullets in children's head.
Hamas is bombing women taking shelter under tents.
Hamas is opening fire on people looking for aid.
Hamas is striking Catholic Church
Hamas is killing journalist
Hamas is killing aid Workers.
Hamas.. Hamas... Hamas....
Exactly!

Hamas, Hamas, Hamas!

They say trouble de sleep, iyanga go wake am up. If Hamas did not attack Israelis on the 7th of October 2023, there would be no battle.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by Pusyiter(m): 10:41am On Jul 25, 2025
If not to say these Hamas guys are evil
What is in the release of hostages and have peace for your people you claim you are fighting for?
larryUG:
This is for those saying Israel is committing a Genocide, why is Hamas refusing to release the hostages?
Release the hostages and put an end to the destruction of the Palestinian people.
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by iykololo(m): 10:42am On Jul 25, 2025
obedience4:
ll

Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrqrz857wgo
Trump really wants all of Gaza empty for his holiday destination paradise project. POSTERITY WILL JUDGE YOU ALL!
Re: Israel And US Leave Gaza Ceasefire Talks In Qatar by ubimagos: 10:48am On Jul 25, 2025
Mirasteel:
Stop believing nonsense western media that is controlled by Jews, Hamas wants the war to end but it's the genocidal Netanyahu that wants the war to continue because they have plans of taking Gaza from Palestinians that's why there's currently genocide and starvation.
They are using the same method that Nazis used on them during world war 2 for Palestinians.
But why did Hamas entered Israel and killed about 1200 people and kidnapped over 250 people in the first place. Where they thinking that Israel will just fold hands and watch!
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