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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:20pm On Jul 25, 2025
APC have normalized abnormalities in Nigeria.
Nigerians just move on even after scores of innocent civilians are killed, no statement from the Army chief, no visit from the presidency. The murderers probably living large and preparing for the next attack.

Even the Daddy G.O's & CAN who should be leading protest, defending Christians farmers/villagers are all silent.
This is too bad...

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:24pm On Jul 25, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
APC have normalized abnormalities in Nigeria.
Nigerians just move on even after scores of innocent civilians are killed, no statement from the Army chief, no visit from the presidency. The murderers probably living large and preparing for the next attack.

Even the Daddy G.O's & CAN who should be leading protest, defending Christians farmers/villagers are all silent.
This is too bad...
Under Tinubu Nigeria has become the mass burial capital of the world.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:25pm On Jul 25, 2025
Another university, another donation

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:26pm On Jul 25, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
APC have normalized abnormalities in Nigeria.
Nigerians just move on even after scores of innocent civilians are killed, no statement from the Army chief, no visit from the presidency. The murderers probably living large and preparing for the next attack.

Even the Daddy G.O's & CAN who should be leading protest, defending Christians farmers/villagers are all silent.
This is too bad...
airmark how do you think Tinubu should handle this?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:27pm On Jul 25, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
Another university, another donation
It seems you're the obidient equivalent of oasisx....Observing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:30pm On Jul 25, 2025
Theflint1:
Under Tinubu Nigeria has become the mass burial capital of the world.
It is very shocking. That's a very bad record. Especially from someone who their supporters said that he came prepared for the role. How can we have such negative record when we're not fighting war with another country??

Something is seriously wrong somewhere.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 5:32pm On Jul 25, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Most Nigerians are angry by default ; na why dem dey beg u before anything like "Sorry, excuse me", "Abeg , get out! " grin
grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 5:36pm On Jul 25, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
I need a movie recommendation in which the villain won, I am tired of this hero save the day bullshit.
2023 NIGERIAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 🙏
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 5:39pm On Jul 25, 2025
KingTom:
2023 NIGERIAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 🙏
Wetin be this grin
So baba daada na villain grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:50pm On Jul 25, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
It seems you're the obidient equivalent of oasisx....Observing.
It's better you call me a stupid person brother.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 5:53pm On Jul 25, 2025
Shegzdave:
Wetin be this grin
So baba daada na villain grin
wink

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 5:58pm On Jul 25, 2025
afrodoc2:
It is a complex issue and the truth is that no one knows all the facts for sure. The whole truth will be revealed in time (possibly decades).

For now, the benefits are obvious, notably increased yield and increased pest resistance. This could be huge in Africa with its relatively infertile soil and historically bad agricultural practices.

The potential dangers are uncertain but will become obvious over a long period of time.

The first farmers during the Neolithic Agricultural Revolution 10,000 to 12,000 years ago carried out a rudimentary and imprecise form of genetic modification in the first place before food crops like rice, maize, wheat etc came into existence, so my gut feeling is that if there is adequate monitoring and oversight it will turn out well in the long run.
In addition, Nigeria is the most populous nation in Africa and the 6th most populous nation in the world, but we do not have the requisite food security to match our current population or its projected growth. We need GMO, particularly food crops to help compliment not eradicate the efforts of organic agriculture. For a country that has struggled to integrate large scale mechanized farming across the country, we need GMO to supplement the efforts of our farmers.

Like you rightly put, most food crop we have today have been genetically modified to adapt to changes in environment, pest control/ infestation and population growth. Take Potato for example, do people really think this variant in shape and size is the original potato? Absolutely not. The original wild potato were smaller in size and required more to feed people. So what did humans do? Modify potato to be bigger, that way, it can feed more people with less. The same is true for tomato, corn and other food/ cash crops.

While there are inherent health risks, the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:10pm On Jul 25, 2025
I love as aproko doctor was dragged and we didn't get any talk of tribalism.

Please let it be remembered when someone from another tribe is dragged.
That this has to be said from time to time shows the damage done👍
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:10pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
In addition, Nigeria is the most populous nation in Africa and the 6th most populous nation in the world, but we do not have the requisite food security to match our current population or its projected growth. We need GMO, particularly food crops to help compliment not eradicate the efforts of organic agriculture. For a country that has struggled to integrate large scale mechanized farming across the country, we need GMO to supplement the efforts of our farmers.

Like you rightly put, most food crop we have today have been genetically modified to adapt to changes in environment, pest control/ infestation and population growth. Take Potato for example, do people really think this variant in shape and size is the original potato? Absolutely not. The original wild potato were smaller in size and required more to feed people. So what did humans do? Modify potato to be bigger, that way, it can feed more people with less. The same is true for tomato, corn and other food/ cash crops.

While there are inherent health risks, the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages.
I think the issue most people who are skeptical about the whole GMO thing have is the bolded. Like they keep hearing the benefits outweighs the disadvantages, but in actual sense not much is being said about the advantage.

It's easy to read up on the advantages, but not much discussion is centered around it's disadvantages when it's being discussed.

That in itself leave room for conspiracy theories to germinate
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m):
BlueRayDick:
I don't know anything about GMO o and I cannot argue for or against, but I read up there where you mentioned how genetically modified poultry made it possible for the US to cater for over 300m population who feed on average of 10 billion GMO chicken annually.

Don't u think people arguing against GMO may be worried about the fact that America having a very high number of people with health complications like Obesity,Autism,Dementia,etc may be due to what they consume(Which are majorly GMO)?
If you don't mind..

The embolden are general human health problems you will find across the world, the difference is that many of them are either undiagnosed, wrongly diagnosed or a combination of both in Nigeria. The embolden, particularly the latter 2 have more genetic implication than foods. If HBP/ heart related disease runs in a family, every child, irrespective of food choice or lifestyle is inherently at risk, as that is a primary risk factor.

Except you are consuming wild hens/ chickens, you are infact eating some form of genetically modified bird. Nigeria still smuggle frozen fishes, turkey and chicken from countries with advanced science and technology in animal husbandry. The chicks that become layers numerous poultries in Nigeria use have been modified in some way, irrespective of how you feed them. The maize and other ingredients that make the feed for these birds have all been genetically modified.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:22pm On Jul 25, 2025
iamoyindamola:
See cancer everywhere
Cancer no dey respect height. No try use that one hold body
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:24pm On Jul 25, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I think the issue most people who are skeptical about the whole GMO thing have is the bolded. Like they keep hearing the benefits outweighs the disadvantages, but in actual sense not much is being said about the advantage.

It's easy to read up on the advantages, but not much discussion is centered around it's disadvantages when it's being discussed.

That in itself leave room for conspiracy theories to germinate
There are inherent risks in every aspect of science. Take for instance, vaccines. Do they have benefits? I strongly believe so and that is why I encourage vaccinations, do they have risks? absolutely yes but the benefits of prevention have shown more successes than failures. A vaccinated child after birth has a higher survival rate when compared to an unvaccinated child. The idea isn't to eliminate organic food production, no. Rather, it is to compliment the efforts of organic food production and guarantee food security for Nigeria.

Let me be honest with you. You are already consuming GMOs long before now in Nigeria. Take for instance, the "Natural Orange/ Apple juice" people have been consuming in Nigeria. Do you think they are primarily organic at their commercial stage? I can go on and on..The only difference is that it is now getting attention. Science will be useless without questions and that is what this does.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:26pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
In addition, Nigeria is the most populous nation in Africa and the 6th most populous nation in the world, but we do not have the requisite food security to match our current population or its projected growth. We need GMO, particularly food crops to help compliment not eradicate the efforts of organic agriculture. For a country that has struggled to integrate large scale mechanized farming across the country, we need GMO to supplement the efforts of our farmers.

Like you rightly put, most food crop we have today have been genetically modified to adapt to changes in environment, pest control/ infestation and population growth. Take Potato for example, do people really think this variant in shape and size is the original potato? Absolutely not. The original wild potato were smaller in size and required more to feed people. So what did humans do? Modify potato to be bigger, that way, it can feed more people with less. The same is true for tomato, corn and other food/ cash crops.

While there are inherent health risks, the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages.
Original banana
Original corn
Just say no to GMO

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:26pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
If you don't mind..

The embolden are general human health problems you will find across the world, the difference is that many of them are either undiagnosed, wrongly diagnosed or a combination of both in Nigeria. The embolden, particularly the latter 2 have more genetic implication than foods. If HBP/ heart related disease runs in a family, every child, irrespective of food choice or lifestyle is inherently at risk as that is a primary risk factor.

Except you are consuming wild hens/ chickens, you are infact eating some form of genetically modified bird. Nigeria still smuggle frozen fishes, turkey and chicken from countries with advanced science and technology in animal husbandry. The chicks that become layers numerous poultries in Nigeria use have been modified in some way, irrespective of how you feed them. The maize and other ingredients that make the feed for these birds have all been genetically modified.
Well, I'm not in the medical line and don't know much about these things. I was only pointing out the general sentiments concerning those health risks and people linking it to how almost everything over there is either geenticaly modified or processed food.

I don't know enough to argue for or against GMO
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 6:27pm On Jul 25, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
What's your opinion on this?


S
What do you think Tinubu can do?
He needs to invite the village heads to a security meeting to really get the true picture of happenings and be decisive in his action.

Overhaul of security personnels in those areas is inevitable.

Terrible scene.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:32pm On Jul 25, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Well, I'm not in the medical line and don't know much about these things. I was only pointing out the general sentiments concerning those health risks and people linking it to how almost everything over there is either geenticaly modified or processed food.

I don't know enough to argue for or against GMO
I am not disapproving of your thoughts, if anything, I like them because I like when Science is questioned, it is the only way it gets better. I encourage people to be open minded with these sort of conversations.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:32pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
There are inherent risks in every aspect of science. Take for instance, vaccines. Do they have benefits? I strongly believe so and that is why I encourage vaccinations, do they have risks? absolutely yes but the benefits of prevention have shown more success than failures. A vaccinated child after birth has a higher survival rate when compared to an unvaccinated child. The idea isn't to eliminate organic food production, no. Rather, it is to compliment the efforts of organic food production and guarantee food security for Nigeria.

Let me be honest with you. You are already consuming GMOs long before now in Nigeria. Take for instance, the "Natural Orange/ Apple juice" people have been consuming in Nigeria. Do you think they are primarily organic at their commercial stage? I can go on and on..The only difference is that it is now getting attention. Science will be useless without questions and that is what this does.
Every improvement or advancement will eliminate problems but also introduce their own.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:32pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
There are inherent risks in every aspect of science. Take for instance, vaccines. Do they have benefits? I strongly believe so and that is why I encourage vaccinations, do they have risks? absolutely yes but the benefits of prevention have shown more success than failures. A vaccinated child after birth has a higher survival rate when compared to an unvaccinated child. The idea isn't to eliminate organic food production, no. Rather, it is to compliment the efforts of organic food production and guarantee food security for Nigeria.

Let me be honest with you. You are already consuming GMOs long before now in Nigeria. Take for instance, the "Natural Orange/ Apple juice" people have been consuming in Nigeria. Do you think they are primarily organic at their commercial stage? I can go on and on..The only difference is that it is now getting attention. Science will be useless without questions and that is what this does.
You didn't address the point I raised in my post.

I said people are skeptical because most of the discussions around GMO is centered around it's advantages and less said about it's health risks.

I think I saw a glimpse of this in what Shegzdave said about Aproko doctor's video promoting GMO. HE was saying the guy talked so much about the be befits but not enough about the disadvantages. That's why some of the guys on X think Aproko doctor may have been paid to influence pro-GMO discussion without dwelling much on its disadvantages.

Yes I'm aware some of the food we eat have been modified, but u will agree our food have not been modified to the extent of the ones u have over there. From livestock to planted food, there's still some element of natural in what we consume in naija. If not, this discussion about Africa embracing GMO won't be happening.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 6:49pm On Jul 25, 2025
BlueRayDick:
You didn't address the point I raised in my post.

I said people are skeptical because most of the discussions around GMO is centered around it's advantages and less said about it's health risks.

I think I saw a glimpse of this in what Shegzdave said about Aproko doctor's video promoting GMO. HE was saying the guy talked so much about the be befits but not enough about the disadvantages. That's why some of the guys on X think Aproko doctor may have been paid to influence pro-GMO discussion without dwelling much on its disadvantages.

Yes I'm aware some of the food we eat have been modified, but u will agree our food have not been modified to the extent of the ones u have over there. From livestock to planted food, there's still some element of natural in what we consume in naija. If not, this discussion about Africa embracing GMO won't be happening.
You will read my subsequent post where I am encouraging the question(s) and that is the approach an influencer like Aproko Doctor should have done. He did not approach the conversation correctly and ended up confusing people more. Aproko Doctor should have approached the conversation from a point of complimenting food production versus the natural thought of eliminating organic food production.

Humans over the centuries have evolved and as we evolve, everything about us evolve so we can adapt to the environment. Level of modification depends on the advancement in science and technology and truly understanding what goes into commercial food processing. Food processing at its commercial stage in Nigeria is already modified, irrespective of the level. Even here in the US, no one forces you to buy GMO foods, if anything, they clearly marked as GMOs/ Organic and you make a choice which you want.

GMO is not a novel invention, the issue is that we haven't discussed it and that is the power an one of the advantages of SM. Social media evokes conversations about every and anything.

Now, in 2025, it has become a strong conversation in Nigeria, we can talk about the advantages, disadvantages but more importantly correct false narratives that associate GMOs to Obesity, Cancer, Autism (or any form of intellectual disability), Dementia, HBP and other health related diseases. This is the angle that puts fear in people and when a Medical Doctor approaches a vastly broad conversation like that unprepared, he is set to cause more confusion.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:50pm On Jul 25, 2025
airmark:
I thought OasisX was playing politics until I saw a devilish Obidient like you, defending the #10 your Obi was giving his firefighters in Anambra.

The evil in you will always defend Obi's inhumane acts. angry
You are now jumping from pillar to post grasping at anything to stay relevant in the discussion. Employing cheap petty blackmail that has been destroyed already. You came late to the party.

First of all it does not make sense. Secondly who negotiated the N10 allowance? Thirdly, being a non reviewed structured allowance it was applicable to every state including Lagos.

Don't deviate from the matter at hand. Tell us why you don't want a good life for Edo people.

Or is the true reason that APC are trying to hide Peter Obi from the masses?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:57pm On Jul 25, 2025
Roland17:
You will read my subsequent post where I am encouraging the question(s) and that is the approach an influencer like Aproko Doctor should have done. He did not approach the conversation correctly and ended up confusing people more. Aproko Doctor should have approached the conversation from a point of complimenting food production versus the natural thought of eliminating organic food production.

Humans over the centuries have evolved and as we evolve, everything about us evolve so we can adapt to the environment. Level of modification depends on the advancement in science and technology and truly understanding what goes into commercial food processing. Food processing at its commercial stage in Nigeria is already modified, irrespective of the level. Even here in the US, no one forces you to buy GMO foods, if anything, they clearly marked as GMOs/ Organic and you make a choice which you want.

GMO is not a novel invention, the issue is that we haven't discussed it and that is the power an one of the advantages of SM. Social media evokes conversations about every and anything.

Now, in 2025, it has become a strong conversation in Nigeria, we can talk about the advantages, disadvantages but more importantly correct false narratives that associate GMOs to Obesity, Cancer, Autism (or any form of intellectual disability), Dementia, HBP and other health related diseases. This is the angle that puts fear in people and when a Medical Doctor approaches a vastly broad conversation like that unprepared, he is set to cause more confusion.
Exactly! This is what just happened ; now Hudeyin and other guys are pushing a whole lot of conspiracy theory viewpoints and people dey pander to their narrative.

I guess more medical practitioners and food scientists who are knowledgeable in that field may need to come out to lend their voice to the matter
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:59pm On Jul 25, 2025
airmark:
He needs to invite the village heads to a security meeting to really get the true picture of happenings and be decisive in his action.

Overhaul of security personnels in those areas is inevitable.

Terrible scene.
So why hasn't he done anything about it since?
This is 2yrs into his presidency.
How many people have died so far?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 7:01pm On Jul 25, 2025
GloriousGbola:
Original banana
Original corn
Just say no to GMO
Ever changing needs of humans as we evolve.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 7:16pm On Jul 25, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Exactly! This is what just happened ; now Hudeyin and other guys are pushing a whole lot of conspiracy theory viewpoints and people dey pander to their narrative.

I guess more medical practitioners and food scientists who are knowledgeable in that field may need to come out to lend their voice to the matter
It is such a broad field that involves many experts, that you don't approach it from an angu of content creation like Aproko Dr did, because you will do more damage. People just need to read and gather knowledge, instead of relying on an influencer.

Is it possible that Aproko Dr is being backed, sure, but that doesn't mean GMO is novel, evil or non-existent in Nigerian food production. It just means the conversation has never been this loud to evoke questions.

Like I have always said on this thread, Nigeria lacks strong institutions. With this conversation, we need to critically evaluate agencies like NAFDAC and the process used to approve foods that go out for consumption. What is the content of what you are currently eating? Should we labelling and separating foods by Organic and GMOs now, so people can make a choice?

Science will do it's work, humans should regulate properly.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 7:19pm On Jul 25, 2025
Ibime, if you will, as an Ijaw man, I'd like to revisit Saturday's conversation with you and even get your perspective about what you know about your people's travails during the Biafran War, and the aftermath.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 7:41pm On Jul 25, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
I need a movie recommendation in which the villain won, I am tired of this hero save the day bullshit.
Used to be a film buff back in the day and can possibly recommend

Two personal favorites - No country for old men, Silence of the lambs

The you have all the others like - Arlington Road, The usual suspect, Gone Girl ( I really hated this one though), Memento, Hannibal.
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