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Dr Abel Damina explains Jesus is God from JW Bible.

Sit back, relax and watch the video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzA5uAZyl0o

Jehovah Witness members have been brainwashed and demonised such that even when the truth is clearly revealed, they reject it on face value. It's really sad that billions of people still follow this deceitful religious cult. I feel so sorry their gullible followers because they have booked a permanent cell in hell.

Obviously, Charles Russel was a mentally derailed fellow who was cut-off from reality and infest thousands of people with his faulty assumptions

He is just joking with whatever comes his way.
Kasongo bona wewe!

paxonel:
Obviously, Charles Russel was a mentally derailed fellow who was cut-off from reality and infest thousands of people with his faulty assumptions

Charles Taze Russell that's sitting right beside Jesus Christ in heaven.
Ọmọ learn the truth and stop deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
Charles Taze Russell that's sitting right beside Jesus Christ in heaven.
Ọmọ learn the truth and stop deceiving yourself!

The same Jesus that he said he is not God?

Now tell me, do you worship Jesus or you mere honour him?

paxonel:
The same Jesus that he said he is not God?
Now tell me, do you worship Jesus or you mere honour him?

You don't even know what you are saying but that aside please quote where Jesus said he is GOD or where he asked anyone to WORSHIP him?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't even know what you are saying but that aside please quote where Jesus said he is GOD or where he asked anyone to WORSHIP him?

So, all the scriptures quoted by the pastor in the video in support of the fact Jesus is God, is it that you deliberately refuse to see it?

That's why jw remains scam

paxonel:
So, all the scriptures quoted by the pastor in the video in support of the fact Jesus is God, is it that you deliberately refuse to see it?
That's why jw remains scam

Why don't you people have any conscience at all?
You want to argue about Jesus being God or not yet you say heaven doesn't exist when the same Jesus talked extensively about heaven. Matthew 6:19-21; John 14:1-3

https://www.nairaland.com/8468151/literally-heaven-only-exist-minds

Sometimes it's good to know that most people like you are fake yet pretending.

This your Abel Damina has condemned most of your pastors and many of you have called him names for that but now that he wants to talk about Jesus being God you're celebrating him.
Please how many of his church members are out there preaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus commanded all his disciples?
Well Jesus has said about you people:

"This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me.  It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines." Matthew 15:8-9

Jehovah's Witnesses are worshipers of the God who sent Jesus because Jesus himself said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus is one of our brothers we all worship the same God Jesus is not our God!

MaxInDHouse:
Why don't you people have any conscience at all?

how is Jesus God makes anyone lack conscience?

You want to argue about Jesus being God or not yet you say heaven doesn't exist when the same Jesus talked extensively about heaven. Matthew 6:19-21; John 14:1-3

Heaven only exist in our minds

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

In simple terms Jesus put it this way, MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD

Obviously, it only exist in our minds

Is that too difficult to understand?

By the way, how will you possibly understand the concept of heaven when you have been brainwashed of a purported paradise on earth by the person called Charles Taze Russell who contradictively said that the earth was going to experience Amagedon and end in 1914 ?
https://www.nairaland.com/8468151/literally-heaven-only-exist-minds

Sometimes it's good to know that most people like you are fake yet pretending.

When people like you cannot understand simple concepts of the bible, you look for someone else to blame for your inadequacy and tag the person fake, simply because you cannot understand.

I ask you a very simple question, what is heaven?

Ken4Christ:
Jehovah Witness members have been brainwashed and demonised such that even when the truth is clearly revealed, they reject it on face value. It's really sad that billions of people still follow this deceitful religious cult. I feel so sorry their gullible followers because they have booked a permanent cell in hell.

Do you mean they have their brains washed with the wrong detergent or completely replaced?

They just need realignment with scripture. They have been infused with false equivocations😵‍💫 hence you can't expect the fruits to be too far from the tree👀!

Food don done.



Abel Damian is giving all of them wotowoto.

This thread will be interesting.


I am laughing in JWs' paradise's language.

paxonel:
Obviously, Charles Russel was a mentally derailed fellow who was cut-off from reality and infest thousands of people with his faulty assumptions

Abel Damina may not know that Jehovah's witnesses have rejected Charles Taze Russell as their leader. They have switched their allegiance to Rutherford, the Discreet Slave. They accused Russell of being influenced by church doctrines.

The organization was renamed by the second founder to what they bear now.

MightySparrow:
Abel Damina may not know that Jehovah's witnesses have rejected Charles Taze Russell as their leader. They have switched their allegiance to Rutherford, the Discreet Slave. They accused Russell of being influenced by church doctrines.

The organization was renamed by the second founder to what they bear now.

Yet, the organization is still a carry over of Taze Russel's illusory philosophy

paxonel:
Yet, the organization is still a carry over of Taze Russel's illusory philosophy

👀I think you are very similar to him🤔!

The two of you have skewed perceptions, one can't fathom the idea of hell; the other believes "many mansions, along with heaven and hell are in our minds" 🤦🏾‍♂️... You see, on the tree of scriptural absurdity...You two are not too far apart, only that one had a cult following 🤔!

MaxInDHouse:
You don't even know what you are saying but that aside please quote where Jesus said he is GOD or where he asked anyone to WORSHIP him?

If Jesus had come with physical armour, foot soldiers, physical territory as a kingdom or personal miraculous powers to perform wonders to fight off opposition, he would have been straight forward, blunt and direct as he should.

I believe Jesus had come as a peasant, no connections, he had to deliver his divine identity discretely so he could last as long as he lasted border to deepen the law as much as possible; 3 yrs is even too short by any standard, yet Jesus was that impactful. This method of transcending to Earth also aligns with his teachings.

If He a peasant was as direct on his identity from his first day of his ministry he might not have lasted 2 weeks
The autocratic and military style leadership at that time was high. He needed as much time to fulfil his mission.

Jesus even acknowledged his figurative way of speaking in John 16:25. So one shouldn't expect direct blunt answers in such areas.
Can you explain Rev 1:17-18 from your NWT version to counter Pastor Damina?

paxonel:
Yet, the organization is still a carry over of Taze Russel's illusory philosophy

I agree with you.

paxonel:
https://www.nairaland.com/8468151/literally-heaven-only-exist-minds
what is heaven?

Agree with Abel Damina on the topic of heaven before coming to JWs!

You haven't quote where Jesus said
"I am God" or "worship me"
That's what i'm asking please!

chimex38:
If Jesus had come with physical armour, foot soldiers, physical territory as a kingdom or personal miraculous powers to perform wonders to fight off opposition, he would have been straight forward, blunt and direct as he should.

I believe Jesus had come as a peasant, no connections, he had to deliver his divine identity discretely so he could last as long as he lasted border to deepen the law as much as possible; 3 yrs is even too short by any standard, yet Jesus was that impactful. This method of transcending to Earth also aligns with his teachings.

If He a peasant was as direct on his identity from his first day of his ministry he might not have lasted 2 weeks
The autocratic and military style leadership at that time was high. He needed as much time to fulfil his mission.

Jesus even acknowledged his figurative way of speaking in John 16:25. So one shouldn't expect direct blunt answers in such areas.
Can you explain Rev 1:17-18 from your NWT version to counter Pastor Damina?

MightySparrow:
I agree with you.

Now it's become somewhat strange; the streaks of suspension that has befallen our brother in the Lord, Maxindhouse.

Do you have an idea what might be going on? Is he going through some kind of transition 👀? or is he being deliberately targeted by the higher powers on Nairaland?

What say you brother?

MaxInDHouse:
Agree with Abel Damina on the topic of heaven before coming to JWs!

Abel damina have a better chance to understand what heaven is, because he is well grounded with scriptures!

But jw?
You people are lost

https://www.nairaland.com/8152846/live-life-heaven-because-there

You said:
"Live your life because there is no heaven"

Go and convince Abel Damina that there is no place called heaven nah.
I'm waiting for you!

paxonel:
Abel damina have a better chance to understand what heaven is, because he well grounded with scriptures!
But jw?
You people are lost

Gabrielshow24:
👀I think you are very similar to him🤔!

The two of you have skewed perceptions

there is something skewed about the conventional doctrines which was imported from Europe to Africa by European missionaries who first brought Christianity to Africa. Such doctrines or beliefs are not applicable in Europe anymore because people are becoming knowledgeable, yet we are used to these skewed doctrines in Africa till today, and it is giving us serious problem here in our churches especially the Pentecostal churches. And that is what i seek to redress.

It seems to me that Jw had tried to redress the doctrinal problem in the US a century ago, but committed blunder along the line thereby putting themselves into perpetual confusion and cannot trace their errors back to a point where they had originally sensed accuracy.

I wouldn't blame them, it's not easy to understand bible.

one can't fathom the idea of hell; the other believes "many mansions, along with heaven and hell are in our minds" 🤦🏾‍♂️... You see, on the tree of scriptural absurdity...You two are not too far apart, only that one had a cult following 🤔!

Let's get this straight, are you saying that Jesus was referring to physical mansions?

You know, that's what jw believe too, that it is physical mansion.
And conventional religion share this belief too

Gabrielshow24:
Now it's become somewhat strange; the streaks of suspension that has befallen our brother in the Lord, Maxindhouse.

Do you have an idea what might be going on? Is he going through some kind of transition 👀? or is he being deliberately targeted by the higher powers on Nairaland?

What say you brother?

He has not been responding to my posts recently. I have worn him out. Janosky also has retired to his cocoon. Maybe maximumSide has gone on Sabbatical. I wish him happy holiday.

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/8152846/live-life-heaven-because-there

You said:
"Live your life because there is no heaven"

Go and convince Abel Damina that there is no place called heaven nah.
I'm waiting for you!

He already knows

Do you think that all these pastors don't know the truth?
How many of them are ready to live a miserable life knowing that there is a better life beyond here?
non of them!

You see them driving flashy cars and living big, while their gullible poor church members are wallowing in poverty waiting for a better place called heaven that is beyond the clouds when they die

Tell me, is that not survival of the fittest?

I'm waiting for Abel Damina to declare it publicly first!

paxonel:
He already knows

Do you think that all these pastors don't know the truth?
How many of them are ready to live a miserable life knowing that there is a better life beyond here?
non of them!

You see them driving flashy cars and living big, while their gullible poor church members are wallowing in poverty waiting for a better place called heaven that is beyond the clouds when they die

Tell me, is that not survival of the fittest?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm waiting for Abel Damina to declare it publicly first!

You go wait tire!

You want a hunter that set a secret trap to declare where the animal can see the trap?

You are joking

paxonel:
You go wait tire!
You want a hunter that set a secret trap to declare where the animal can see the trap?
You are joking

So if your Abel Damina is also deceiving his audience where does that lives you?

Someone said Jesus is God and fearlessly speaks against most of your pastors and you welcomed everything he says as truth now you are saying he knows heaven doesn't exist and he will not declare it publicly yet you want people to believe he's still worthy of trust shey?

Ọmọ i told you from the onset that you don't even know what you're saying!

Jamestaiwo:
Dr Abel Damina explains Jesus is God from JW Bible.

Sit back, relax and watch the video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzA5uAZyl0o

Error error.

He got correct only the Hebrew verse he quoted but every other thing is false and misnterpretation. I would have helped him with another verse he might not know from the NWT bible.

The biggest of all blunder was when he said that Jesus is Jehovah. I need to teach these people.