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Boomark:
You people are already so afraid.

It will not judge anything spiritual.

It will point out those talking out of point as they made in their claim.

For example.
If you claim that Jesus has 12 disciples and use bible verses of where David killed Goliath as back up. It will tell you that you are talking out of point.

All eyes will see it and the screenshot of everything will be posted.

Why are you people so afraid?

Dtruthspeaker:
1) Do you not already have the sense to know off Point?

2) Even here you falls have already been pointed out to you and you can not answer as has been done many many times before, and you are still saying the same things that proved why you were wrong before, so this is a vanity.

Boomark:
1. I have but you but you people don't have that sense. Eg. Antichristian asked to see something about marriage from the bible, instead of doing that you started talking of point. That's how you people turn people to atheists with off point and lies.

2. This is another example of off point. I didn't ask anybody hwre to show me anything from their off point essays. They are all interested in forcing their off essay on me instead of taking the challenge and show working from the scripture.


You are free to take up the challenge. I will make sure you score - marks or 0 from all your claim and rebuttal. I will change your name to Dfalsespeaker with my rebuttals.

A horrifying fear has taken over all of you.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, delu. After all the several threads that have proven you falls, you are here crying for a rematch forgetting it is always the Loser who does this.

Boomark:
It is not about winning argument. It is about revealing the truth. To end everyday argument and continued misinterpretation of the word of God.

A murderer who wrote how he murdered someone in a book which was presented in court cannot win. We are looking at a book we believe is the source of our doctrines. Now that we have so many false doctrines, we want to check if we are still holding unto what was writtenand not falsehood. Most of the doctrines are actually opposing the words of Jesus Christ. Satan is using such fake beliefs to deceive a lot of people.

Let's call it bible discussion. I have seen people who lie and twist the bible but still claims they are right. This is what I want us to clear so that people who are still growing in faith will not be deceived by such lies. We will direct them to the challenge discussion where they can get accurate explanation and scriptures concerning one God.

Trinitarians don't believe that one God is the Father alone so that's where the problem is. And they also oppose Jesus Christ in disguise.

Trinity Is not a mystery but falsehood. That's what I want to reveal to all. They use the mystery part to make them continue believing the lie.

Boomark:
That is why I, the Boomark of God have come to prove to you all that all your serveral threads are out of point with a single blow.

Jesus came and pronounced woe unto the Pharisees who think they are doing several things very well.

I have come to pronounce woe to your false and off point trinity doctrine.

I have also noticed how you attach lies to your comment.

1. Saying my fall has been pointed out is a lie

2. Saying that I am asking for rematch is a lie.

Oya continue. That's why trinity doctrine is a lie.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is this the first thread you raised this issue? No.
So, you are just making noise crying for a rematch.

Boomark:
There was no match in any of my threads. I don't write things that people oppose. On the last thread I made, no single soul dare oppose what I presented. Opposing it means that you are opposing God. You saw it and fled. No wonder you all are afraid.

Show me a single opposition. Whatever you are showing me must not be out of point because I am tired of you people.

This is the reason why I called for the challenge so that you people will stop lying and fabricating falsehood.

I thought you will ask me for evidence where you wrote out of point. So I will use you as an example of what I'm talking about.

Image123:
i can have a Bible discussion with you on a general thread, though i consider it rather pointless and weightless. There are more important things like being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity, than agreeing that God is Trinity or not. Who that one help or no help? It's not a pass to anything immediately interesting, except you're so keen on the knowledge of God. Again there are many more aspects that you can know and literally survive.

Dtruthspeaker:
The bold has said it all.

Boomark:
Knowing God and Jesus Christ means eternal life. If people don't know them well, they will still join all these Idol worshipers and tell you it is the same God. I have heard it from them.

All the things you mentioned are good. So if we can have archives of treated matters then all the disagreement on opposing doctrines will reduce. We will all be going closer to become one. I will to be available whenever such discussions come up.


So are you ok with the rules? I don't understand what you meant by general thread. People will be allowed to say their minds on the main challenge thread after we have finished. This is to make it easy for everyone to see all the bible verses supporting our claims without any distraction.

This place will be used for general discussion until we are through.

Image123:
Give me just one gain from believing or understanding that there's no trinity or there is, greater than being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity. Thank you.

Boomark:
Let me show you how people reject Christ because of trinity. Anyone who has rejected things Christ said because of their church doctrine has no business preparing for eternity or living as a child of God they have rejected.

I asked this my friend this question. Do you believe what Christ said in those scriptures? You can see how she called what the scripture of what Jesus said anything. She only agreed with me because she doesn't have time to debate.

It is like they are loyal to someone we don't know yet and that person is not Christ. No respect for his words anymore because it doesn't suit their doctrine.

Which eternity, or salvation or living like a child of God would anyone who has rejected Christ. She still didn't answer properly after everything because their mind has been turned against Christ. It was done in a subtle way so they don't realise it.

One pastor stopped reading a passage I told him to read and explain in Revelation. He got close to what we are looking for and stopped. I told him to continue but he refused and was busy telling me to stop opposing God. I was like why are people like this. Claiming right even in wrong deed.

I have another evangelist friend who could not tell the truth about something in a single verse. After correcting him, he said he doesn't want to continue discussing with me. That he made reference to what he knew somewhere and that if I don't want to take what he said I should leave it. Just see in the last picture what an adult evangelist explained. He is not an illiterate but they can lie and twist the word of God just to hold onto their doctrine. He told me this same thing that he is more interested in righteous and holiness. When he hasn't handled the things that can make him to lie any day any time.

And many more like that.

Boomark:
Let me show you how people reject Christ because of trinity. Anyone who has rejected things Christ said because of their church doctrine has no business preparing for eternity or living as a child of God they have rejected.

I asked this my friend this question. Do you believe what Christ said in those scriptures? You can see how she called what the scripture of what Jesus said anything. She only agreed with me because she doesn't have time to debate.

It is like they are loyal to someone we don't know yet and that person is not Christ. No respect for his words anymore because it doesn't suit their doctrine.

Which eternity, or salvation or living like a child of God would anyone who has rejected Christ. She still didn't answer properly after everything because their mind has been turned against Christ. It was done in a subtle way so they don't realise it.

One pastor stopped reading a passage I told him to read and explain in Revelation. He got close to what we are looking for and stopped. I told him to continue but he refused and was busy telling me to stop opposing God. I was like why are people like this. Claiming right even in wrong deed.

I have another evangelist friend who could not tell the truth about something in a single verse. After correcting him, he said he doesn't want to continue discussing with me. That he made reference to what he knew somewhere and that if I don't want to take what he said I should leave it. Just see in the last picture what an adult evangelist explained. He is not an illiterate but they can lie and twist the word of God just to hold onto their doctrine. He told me this same thing that he is more interested in righteous and holiness. When he hasn't handled the things that can make him to lie any day any time.

And many more like that.

Image123:
Give me just one gain from believing or understanding that there's no trinity or there is, greater than being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity. Thank you.

Dtruthspeaker:
We cannot count how many times you have been put down over this issue, so today/tomorrow your noise making won't change the fact that you are wrong

And as I have always said Trinity is not a life and death principle. it is just a mere observationary description no different from saying brace or hat trick

Steep:
while I don't think full knowledge of the theology of the Trinity is neccesary, but however, there is tremendous gain in the knowledge of the trinity.
The gospel itself is Trinitarian in nature, God the father sent his Son so that any one who believe in the Son would be saved then there follows the witness of the holy Spirit.


Though one might not understand the theology of the trinity yet when they respond to the gospel the accept the trinity. How? By accepting Jesus as God's son who died; when there is a Son there is a father. Secondly, by putting their faith in Jesus it means Jesus is reliable meaning Jesus is more than a man as only God is absolutely reliable.

Anyone who rejects the deity of Jesus can not absolutely put their trust in him hence cannot be saved.

Anyone who is truly saved cannot knowingly deny the deity of christ because it contradicts his salvation.

Yet the father and The Son are Spoken as distinct persons in the gospel yet both are God.
Anyone who has the holy spirit in him would know instinctively that the holy Spirit is not just a force but he is more and because of the way Jesus spoke about the holy Spirit he is a person.

Talking about relationship with God, for a good and healthy relationship with God one must know to a great extent the doctrine of the trinity, the book of 1 John addresses that.

Spiritual growth and maturity comes from deeper knowledge of God which include the doctrine of the trinity.

Image123:
Thank you, i do not speak of deeper knowledge or maturity. i speak of the basics of being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity. You don't need deeper knowledge or maturity to be saved, you need faith. You don't need deeper knowledge or maturity to live, you need it to grow. And of course any child of God will spend eternity with God regardless of maturity and deep knowledge. A great percent of the old testament saints and those who met Him physically in the gospels did not know He is God.

Kingsempires:
Exactly, no matter how many points you bring into this thread no matter how scriptural, logical, or historically grounded they may be it still won’t make him accept that the Trinity is biblical

Image123:
Nobody rejects Jesus because of Trinity or no Trinity. If there's any rejection, it's likely because of attitude and lack of clarity on your part or part of those arguing. Like i said, you have been unable to show the benefits of believing or not believing your doctrine that exceeds being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity.
i liken it to being in a school and knowing the VC or lecturer's house and family. While it has its side benefits, no such knowledge and intimacy is required for the student to graduate. And it is more important to graduate as a student than to know your lecturer or VC's personal things. This is very similar. As i have stated, if you want to discuss about God on anything, create a thread, notify me, i'll see how to find time. It's up to you what you want to do with AI in the background. My faith is not built on people, events, AI and algorithms regardless of what they say.

Kingsempires:
Exactly, no matter how many points you bring into this thread no matter how scriptural, logical, or historically grounded they may be it still won’t make him accept that the Trinity is biblical

Your Man made invention is not holy scriptures.

Ken4Christ:
God is Almighty. He can be in heaven and be on earth at the same time.

Jesus is the Son of God
Jesus is God
Jesus is the I Am
Jesus is the first and the last.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty.
Jesus is the glory of God..
Jesus is the fullness of God.
If you want to see God, look at Jesus.

FreeIgboho:
Meanwhile JW have recently changed on things like associating with disfellowshiped former members, wearing a beard, and women wearing pants. They have now just changed on toasting also. Next will be birthdays and holidays for sure! See below.
Someone asked if they were serving a schizophrenic😆

Janosky:

God commanded animal sacrifice in the past
Oga, did God command you to continue animal sacrifice?
God CHANGED that.


You go still dey shout say your God is Unchangeable CHANGER.
Don't mock JW's.
Abeg dey reason with your brain.

Janosky:
God is not the son of himself

You just dey read the Bible upside down.

FxMasterz:
Boomark, longest time. Trust you're doing well.

I have restrained myself from unnecessary arguments of Scripture because it is very unprofitable. Most people come online with a rigid mindset
and would not be persuaded even when shown scripures that address their issues directly. I myself, at many times after being shown some other sides of a scriptures, I have had to agree with the other person that he's right while I was wrong. But, I have seen no other person do that. Most people respect themselves than they respect the word of God. They want to argue and win arguments as a thing of pride. This is not Christ like. I will not argue or debate the scriptures with you for the saje of scoring points. God forbid. It is very unprofitable. The Bible already forwarned us about debates and arguments. They only gender strife: 2 Timothy 2:23-25.

There's no genuine Christian who I'll engage you in discussions related to the Bible if you present your case as an argument where points will be scored. That's why most knowledgeabke Christians on the forum didn't honour you with a dedicated audience.

You already started on a wrong footing because we discuss scriptures for edification and not for points. If you'll change course and agree that you and I should edify ourselves by sharpening iron with iron, and thereby also edify all who read our posts, then we can have a really good time together discussing the nature of God. So, let's put all debates and arguments aside. Let's forget about points scoring, and let's "Do all things to edification." 1 Corinthians 14:26.

I believe that you already understand my position and would be very much willing to glorify God with your posts and edify the saints as well. Hence, I will like to engage you a bit, that all may learn from our posts and also be edified.

With regards to your topic, before we go any further into discussing the nature of God and His Trinity, I'll like you to know that you cannot discover God's triune nature except by divine revelation. This is not a matter that can be discovered by mere sense knowledge.

However, God's nature is revealed even in the things He created. Man, created in God's image is a trinity of some sort with a spirit, a soul and a body. Even an atom which is the basic building block of matter exists on this principle of trinity, for an atom is a trinity as well, being made up of Protons, Electrons and Neutrons. This should have a logical appeal to your intellect and should make you open up the more to a deeper study of God's nature. These things cannot be found by just reading the letters of the Word.

Now, you must be ready to take the Word of God at its face value. Not giving it your own private interpretations but taking God's Word as is.

If you're ready to do this, let's open the floor by considering these two questions directed at Boomark:

1. How many people in the entire universe do you consider worthy of receiving worship?

2. Can you kindly name the only person or persons you consider worthy of worship? Please name them if you have any.

I'll engage you further after you have provided answers to the two questions above.

God bless you n

Dtruthspeaker:
You can say that again

Boomark:
My brother I'm good.

This discussion you want us to do now is also an argument. It is not different from everything that has been going on in this forum.


Let me show you recent example of why it is not profitable.

This guy named FreeIgboho

He asked me a question and I replied with a scriptural example here.
https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/50#136250474

I asked him a question here
https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/51#136260947

But instead of answering my question from the link above, he kept on saying something I never said.
https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/52#136262070

He called me poor guy when I told him I don't discuss with deceitful people.
https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/52#136263767

He said he correct himself and apologised if I show him where I asked the question. And I showed him here below.
https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/52#136264167

But till now I have not seen any correction nor apology. This is not what I will continue doing with people here. Some people are just here to waste people's time. They only interested in twisting what someone says so that people will feel you don't know what you are doing. And we will continue moving in circle.

He will not agree to discuss scripture with this method because he has nothing to offer except lies and talking out of point.

We are not arguing but reasoning from the scripture. The point there is for people to know that a particular claim is correct and based on the scripture. There won't be any distractions from other people posting until we finish the discussion and people will see all the bible verses supporting or countering any claims.

Concerning the worship discussion, why not do it with a Jehovah's witness? I will be by the side and learn. But if you want me to do it then you will give me time. The trinity bible discussion will be starting tomorrow.

FxMasterz:
Glad to hear from you my brother!

The attitudes you described is typical of most people on this forum but it seems FreeIgboho already offered an explanation. Please pardon him. It was due to a technical glitch. I myself didn't see your mention of yesterday until I opened your thread and saw my mention your thread.

Regarding the worship question, it is a foundation I would like to lay for the Trinity discourse. Please answer it as a way of kick-starting the Trinity discussion.

God bless you real good!

Janosky:

God commanded animal sacrifice in the past
Oga, did God command you to continue animal sacrifice?
God CHANGED that.


You go still dey shout say your God is Unchangeable CHANGER.
Don't mock JW's.
Abeg dey reason with your brain.