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Akinomoakin021:
Detailed!

Thanks for educating these children.. they know nothing about history.

Lagos of today constituted different Yoruba ethnicities.

Goodvibes007:
Regionalism favoured us till our brothers from the east scattered everything. And as expected, the region is still the most prosperous in Nigeria till date.as it was back decades and centuries ago.

Who was the person that scattered it. Can you elaborate?

Mccullum:
Thanks for educating this children.. they know nothing about history.

Lagos of today constituted different Yoruba ethnicities.

I just posted about this in another thread where I estimated the so called federal territory was only about 5% of modern Lagos state.

Nice to see you resurfaced this thread.

Christistruth03:
Ozommadu

The Port of Lagos was the Busiest Port in West and Central Africa before the British ever arrived

Lord Lugard had Predicted in 1906 that Lagos was going to be an Economic Power in Africa

Let's stop the hypocrisy and be honest. It is FG investments in Lagos that made it what it has become.
Without those investments, Lagos would be what it is today.

Raskimonojendor:
We did not want the FCT. British government forced it on us.

Even Awolowo said the western region could help finance their capital elsewhere.

Which Awolowo are you talking about?

The one that was lambasted even after his death by ebilokan’s loudspeaker at The Nation newspaper, in his vain attempt to desecrate and discredit Awolowo’s progressive legacy?

Babasessy:
The Awolowo rebirth in the Southwest has inspired gongs, songs and rhetoric of sorts. But they have missed one point.

It occurred to me in Abeokuta last week amidst the big crowds and euphoria of the swearing-in of Senator Ibikunle Amosun as governor. In all the states from Lagos to Edo, where Awo has witnessed ideological resurgence, hardly a single family member has played a role.

So we have an Awo family without an Awo. That is an irony. But history overwhelms us with this sort of twist. Obafemi Awolowo toiled for his reputation. His roots were lowly, he toiled to school both home and abroad, launched into careers in law, business, journalism and eventually politics. He carved a niche for himself, and became the first methodical and charismatic leftist in our history.  Other leftists abounded but they did not inspire comparable drama and following.

He faced tribulations, went to jail, failed in elections, won a few, but he imprinted his ideas and legacy in the country, and no single mortal has beaten him in the history of this country. His greatest achievement was in the area of ideas, and that was how he fashioned a family. Most families are born of biology but his issued from ideology. That family suffered with him.

In a spoof of Jesus Christ, these were the men who followed him in his teachings, and endured with him in his temptations. So he formed a kingdom for them in the Southwest, in the old Western Region, presiding over his projects, his legacies and people.

In all of these, the family he had was not his flesh and blood. In another spoof of Christ, who were his family anyway? Those who were with him must be counted as his family. So, I combed in the ambience of Babatunde Raji Fashola (SAN), and I found none. I went to Ogun, I frisked the crowd under Amosun’s bower, hardly any. Around Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola in Osun, I could not lay a finger. With Governor Kayode Fayemi in Ekiti, where are the forbears of Awo? Yet, I can hear the chants of Awo. Hardly in any of the inaugural speeches or any of their other public intervention would you miss the philtre and filter of Awo from these gentlemen. To parody Novelist Joseph Conrad, they are the sparks from Awo’s sacred fire, the messengers of the might within the man.

Already all of them are pursuing the legacy ideas of Awo: free education, free health services, infrastructural development, urban renewal and economic engineering.

Lagos has posted itself as the John the Baptist. The others are putting up valiant efforts, and the world of course is watching to see how well they will perform. It will call for great work, resourcefulness and cooperation. They are the real Awoists, and Awo was a man of rigour and vigour.

The Awo son that many expected to take after the father was Olusegun, who unfortunately died in a car crash. We shall never know if he could have pulled it off.  But the others have not shown much of the paterfamilias’ brio and depth. In the past decade, under this republic, they have blended with the wrong crowd. Even H.I.D, hobnobbed with Alao-Akala, who brought illiteracy to governance; with Oyinlola who turned the grace of office into a hell-hole of despots; with Daniel who could not arrest his quick fall into megalomania.

I wrote once that this woman whom Awo once described as the jewel of inestimable value has lost value to his cause. If he came back to life, he would have committed the extraordinary act of divorce after death. Even his newspaper, The Tribune, has so stumbled and fallen that it swims in Awo’s vomit.

                                                                             http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/columnist/monday/sam-omatseye/index.1.html

Christistruth03:
If you use Lagos Island alone it will actually be 0.24 % of Lagos State Land Mass

If you add Ebute Metta and Yaba that can Bring it up to 0.30 %

But the Problem is that those Lands were only Leased by the British Government after they ran out of Space on Lagos
Island and the Lease agreement has already expired without being renewed that means that anything outside of the
Lagos Island is Technically Western Region Territory
Even the Leasehold agreement that the British had with the Onikoyi has Also run out but we
still included it as part of the Lagos Island the Capital


Originally Lagos the Capital ended at Apongbon Bridge on Lagos Island

Lagos Island is 9.26 sq km while Lagos State is 3,577 Sq km

Is this how you reason? Even your state capital would include neighbouring towns and lgs, like in Abuja today, the federal capital territory includes part of nassarawa and niger state, you'd see 2 police station in niger state close to each other, one belongs to the state and the other one belongs to fct, FCT is different from Capital city. It was as a result of Lagos as capital territory made FG construct all the federal highways like badagry/mile 2, apapa/oshodi, national theatre, festac town, international airport, seaports, some government buildings and much more all over Lagos state of today and beyond

Raf4:
Apapa port was established in 1913 and the construction of 1st 4 deep water berths started in 1921.
Lagos Airport was initially built during 2nd World War.
Carter bridge was built in 1901.
Building of Race Course (now TBS) commenced in 1859 during Oba Dosunmu reign
Lagos - Abeokuta railway was opened in 1898, got to Ibadan in 1902.
As far back as 1860s, Lagos already got electricity, telephone, post office, Schools, City Hall, recreation centres, Cathedrals, public & private hospitals, tarred roads, business districts and international trade centres etc.
As you can see, many of the developments in Lagos occurred b4 amalgamation and formation of Nigeria. So, Lagos was majorly developed by the locals and colonial masters, using revenues generated from Lagos and other parts of Western Region.
The level of development already on ground made the colonial masters to select Lagos as the Capital of Nigeria (previously Lokoja and Calabar)

Any idea what made the development stop since 1999, such that Lagos is now a glorified ghetto with no pipe borne water, no free healthcare and no free basic education for all children?

What is ebilokan and his puppet successors doing with the trillions annual budget if they are not employing and paying civil servants well enough to provide these services and utilities that were taken care of by the colonial masters, the AG and UPN governments?

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#Statisense
(The Economist)

Lawmaker scores Lagos Water Corporation low

A Lagos State lawmaker, Mr Saka Fafunmi, on Thursday expressed dissatisfaction at the performance of the state Water Corporation.

Fafunmi, a member of the Lagos State House of Assembly (LAHA), said in Ikeja that the corporation had not been able to justify statutory allocations to it.

The lawmaker, who represents Ifako-Ijaiye Constituency 1 at the assembly, spoke to the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN).

He said that the corporation had the capacity to generate much fund internally through water rates but had relied solely on government funding because of poor performance.

'' Anyone that is using water will be willing to pay for it; the corporation has not been giving us water.

"Is there any new community that Water Corporation has given water? People depend on boreholes; even government estates have industrial boreholes.

"Why do we keep pumping money into an agency that does not give us the desired results?'' he asked.

He noted that the Adiyan Waterworks was located at Ifako-Ijaiye, where many of the residents had resorted to digging boreholes as a means of getting water.

''A lot of people are falling sick because they don't drink clean water.

''In the same compound, where you have sewage, is where you have a borehole.

''There is no way you can manage the sewage that it will not leak and pollute the water; everyone drinking such is drinking contaminated water,'' he said.

The lawmaker urged the corporation to increase water reticulation and supply to residents.

From: http://www.punchng.com/politics/lawm...rporation-low/
https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=mes_capstones;Ensuring

Raf4:
Apapa port was established in 1913 and the construction of 1st 4 deep water berths started in 1921.
Lagos Airport was initially built during 2nd World War.
Carter bridge was built in 1901.
Lagos - Abeokuta railway was opened in 1898, got to Ibadan in 1902.
As far back as 1860s, Lagos already got electricity, telephone, post office, Schools, City Hall, recreation centres, Cathedrals, public & private hospitals, tarred roads, business districts and international trade centres etc.
As you can see, many of the developments in Lagos occurred b4 amalgamation and formationofNigeria. So, Lagos was majorly developed by the locals and colonial masters, using revenues generated from Lagos and other parts of Western Region.

Wait! I thought president Tinubu built Lagos? So the state had all these things long before his reign? Interesting.

babasolution:
It was Lagos state the seat of government was just in Lagos island, exactly like the FCT,were the seat of government is in Abuja central but the capital extends to all areas over the FCT

They have been trying so hard to rewrite history, it’s disgusting

FreeStuffsNG:
Thank you OP.

Actually, some parts of Etiosa bordering Epe were under Western region.

Christistruth03:
It was the British government who differentiated between it both during Colonisation , before independence and after independence

You Probably don’t know that the British Governor Capt Glover and the Egbas of Abeokuta fought over Ebutte Meta which the Egba Army Controlled in addition to the entire Lagos Mainland
The Ijebu Army controlled everything North and East of Lekki and the Oyo Army of Alaafin controlled Badagry Area and all the
way to Porto Novo

That was how the British Colonial Government met things on Ground when they arrived in 1851

Ijebu Egba and Oyo had spent almost a Century fightIng over the Lagos Coast and it had ended in a 3 way Draw

The Egbas also took Iddo Island and Could have taken Lagos Island but decided it would cost them too many men to
Capture Lagos Island because of the Sea Warfare that would have been necessary


It in the End it was the Egba Christians who Brought the British into the Conflict as allies of the Egbas
that was when the British Bombarded Lagos and Replaced Oba Kosoko with Oba Akitoye as Oba of Lagos
Oba Akitoye’s mother was from Abeokuta and he had been living at Abeokuta after seeking refuge there

Akinomoakin021:
Local Governments that were former FCT (Km2)
Lagos Island-8.7
Eti-Osa-192
Apapa-27
Lagos Mainland-19
Total-246.7 Km2

Total Lagos state landmass-3577km2

246.7/3577*100=6.9 percent

About 7 percent of Lagos State Landmass was former FCT. Others were part of old Western Region

Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

Christistruth03:
It was approximately 0.30 % of Lagos State Land Mass

The more you try so hard to convince yourself that Lagos was never a capital of Nigeria because one retarded egoat named Reno Omokri said it wasn't the more stvpid you all sound. Weather it is a small part of Lagos or the entire part of Lagos...LAGOS WAS THE FORMER CAPITAL OF NIGERIA BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MOVED IT TO ABUJA IN 1991, PERIOD.

hedonido:
You fools like talking rubbish. What is the difference between Abuja and FCT?

If there's a surge in population in Mararaba, or even as far as Suleja, it is all because people are drawn to the capital city of Nigeria. If they can't afford to reside in the main city, they will reside in the suburbs and surrounding areas. Whatever economic and social benefits/consequences accrue to the FCT, trickles down to every corner of the greater Abuja and even neighboring states like Nasarawa and Niger State.

Same applied to Lagos!

So this disingenuous and vexatious attempt to differentiate Lagos the capital of Nigeria and Lagos the non-capital of Nigeria is quite stupid.

You ended up justifying what they are saying, if most of the satellite town of Maraba and Sulieja grow in future to merge with Asokoro and Kubwa you can't claim they are FCT or Abuja those are still Nasarawa and Niger state territories. There is a part of Lagos that hosted the Federal government serving as FCT and there was Lagos state all compressed within the same area. No matter how close Maraba is to Abuja it's still not FCT. Even the indigenes of FCT will one day begin to draw the line between their boundaries and what there forebearers gave to the FGN the moment population begin to grow, anyone with property outside the core city center is at risk.

Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

Imagine your leader dead and alive had sense to develop their region.

Just imagine.

babasolution:
Calabar, brass ,Benin all had ports before Nigeria, however that Lagos was eventually made the capital of Nigeria was the significant difference

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Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

Lagos will still be developed than other part of Nigeria.

It has access to the deep water sea..it's location alone is lucrative for international trade.

It is also cheaper... considering it was the port of slave trade that leads directly to the ocean and to the Americans which are now our major trading partners.

L

Raskimonojendor:
Lagos wasn't sold but annexed in 1861 with the threat of force. Lagos was already rich before it was turned into a British colony.

The Oba resisted the cession for 11 days while facing the threat of violence on Lagos and its people, but capitulated and signed the Lagos Treaty of Cession. Lagos was declared a colony on 5 March 1862.

@naptu2 your knowledge is needed here pls .

Christistruth03:
It was the British government who differentiated between it both during Colonisation , before independence and after independence

You Probably don’t know that the British Governor Capt Glover and the Egbas of Abeokuta fought over Ebutte Meta which the Egba Army Controlled in addition to the entire Lagos Mainland
The Ijebu Army controlled everything North and East of Lekki and the Oyo Army of Alaafin controlled Badagry Area and all the
way to Porto Novo

That was how the British Colonial Government met things on Ground when they arrived in 1851

Ijebu Egba and Oyo had spent almost a Century fightIng over the Lagos Coast and it had ended in a 3 way Draw

The Egbas also took Iddo Island and Could have taken Lagos Island but decided it would cost them too many men to
Capture Lagos Island because of the Sea Warfare that would have been necessary


It in the End it was the Egba Christians who Brought the British into the Conflict as allies of the Egbas
that was when the British Bombarded Lagos and Replaced Oba Kosoko with Oba Akitoye as Oba of Lagos
Oba Akitoye’s mother was from Abeokuta and he had been living at Abeokuta after seeking refuge there

Please who built the International Airport/ 3ML Bridge/ Sea Ports.
If the goal is to claim that only the capital area was developed by the FG and the Western Regional / Lagos Govts did all the rest, you are wasting your time.

There is no need for any long story, the summary is Lagos is no longer FCT and is now being managed by the State and local governments, anyone living in Lagos is no longer subject to the FG but to the state and the LGA where they reside!

The whole debate is because many still see Lagos as the FCT and think the city or state belongs to the FG, whereas that FCT status no longer exists.

Raf4:
Apapa port was established in 1913 and the construction of 1st 4 deep water berths started in 1921.
Lagos Airport was initially built during 2nd World War.
Carter bridge was built in 1901.
Lagos - Abeokuta railway was opened in 1898, got to Ibadan in 1902.
As far back as 1860s, Lagos already got electricity, telephone, post office, Schools, City Hall, recreation centres, Cathedrals, public & private hospitals, tarred roads, business districts and international trade centres etc.
As you can see, many of the developments in Lagos occurred b4 amalgamation and formationofNigeria. So, Lagos was majorly developed by the locals and colonial masters, using revenues generated from Lagos and other parts of Western Region.

You people!

Funny as anything.

Dont worry, its the creation of Britain and the Yoruba in all ways, to the eclusion of anything from anywhere else in Nigeria.

Happy?

Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

If FG didn't build all those things and the whole of Lagos had been under the Western Region, the Western Region Government would have built all those. In case your lying grandfather didn't tell you, the Western Region Government built the first television station in Africa at Ibadan (Yorubas had a TV station before Spain, France etc). That's one history you lot wished never happened. You can't relate, though. So, a govt that had the foresight to build a TV station would know the necessity of having a port, since one of its major cities was located on the coast.

motymop:
Lagos will still be developed than other part of Nigeria.

It has access to the deep water sea..it's location alone is lucrative for international trade.

It is also cheaper... considering it was the port of slave trade that leads directly to the ocean and to the Americans which are now our major trading partners.

L

This must be a joke, waiting to see any other places in SW that looks like Lagos since it was developed by Awolowo, funny people 😁🤣

Brenbentondiaz:
If FG didn't build all those things and the whole of Lagos had been under the Western Region, the Western Region Government would have built all those. In case your lying grandfather didn't tell you, the Western Region Government built the first television station in Africa at Ibadan (Yorubas had a TV station before Spain, France etc). That's one history you lot wished never happened. You can't relate, though. So, a govt that had the foresight to build a TV station would know the necessity of having a port, since one of its major cities was located on the coast.

You are right and we have all saw how it was replicated in Osin, Ogun, Ibadan, Ekiti and Ondo state, the joke is on you and those trying to rewrite history and the effort our federal government 😁😁

thinkmoney:
Predicted where?
Lagos as at 200years ago was an emerging port city
There were bigger ports in calabar, Arochukwu and Warri

Arochukwu is an inland town without a Port.

JetApartment:
The more you try so hard to convince yourself that Lagos was never a capital of Nigeria because one retarded egoat named Reno Omokri said it wasn't the more stvpid you all sound. Weather it is a small part of Lagos or the entire part of Lagos...LAGOS WAS THE FORMER CAPITAL OF NIGERIA BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MOVED IT TO ABUJA IN 1991, PERIOD.

That you can quote a non-intellectual editable Wikipedia page as reference shows that you lack the intellectual depth

Akinomoakin021:
Local Governments that were former FCT (Km2)
Lagos Island-8.7
Eti-Osa-192
Apapa-27
Lagos Mainland-19
Total-246.7 Km2

Total Lagos state landmass-3577km2

246.7/3577*100=6.9 percent

About 7 percent of Lagos State Landmass was former FCT. Others were part of old Western Region

Former fct not current. Anybody that wants to maf should go to present fct Abuja not Lagos. Otherwise the owner of the land will act accordingly appropriately.

Yorubas are unique tribe. Too much stories about them. They have a solid foundation, their roots is solidly deep in the sand of time. Also, a country inside countries.

Raskimonojendor:
We did not want the FCT. British government forced it on us. Even Awolowo said the western region could help finance their capital elsewhere.

hedonido:
You fools like talking rubbish. What is the difference between Abuja and FCT?

If there's a surge in population in Mararaba, or even as far as Suleja, it is all because people are drawn to the capital city of Nigeria. If they can't afford to reside in the main city, they will reside in the suburbs and surrounding areas. Whatever economic and social benefits/consequences accrue to the FCT, trickles down to every corner of the greater Abuja and even neighboring states like Nasarawa and Niger State.

Same applied to Lagos!

So this disingenuous and vexatious attempt to differentiate Lagos the capital of Nigeria and Lagos the non-capital of Nigeria is quite stupid.

Does such development still make Mararaba and co (as you have mentioned) FCT?

Can you carry out FCT administrative functions in Suleja and Mararaba or Nasarawa?

Christistruth03:
FG built all the major Bridges in Nigeria including the ones over The Niger

The first Bridge to be built without any FG help would be the 4th Mainland Bridge in Lagos

Carter bridge was built in 1901 before Nigeria not by FG.

Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

Imagine Zik had concentrated on developing Calabar or PH to rival Lagos but instead he decided to make Enugu the capital of old Eastern region purely out of continuing Ibo marginalisation of the coastal minorities

Before there was an Abuja there was an Enugu that pillaged the resources of minority people to build an Ibo city

Ozommadu:
Imagine lagos was never the capital of Nigeria for a day, without federal government built seaport, Airport, bridges and multinationals

Just imagine

The seaport was already established even before the British arrived in Lagos. The Seaport was built by the Portuguese, which is why it is called Lagos. The first major builders of Lagos were the Saro and the Aguda (of Brazilian descent). They built the Portuguese-looking houses across Lagos and Abeokuta.

Lagos' problem is overpopulation. A city designed for 300,000 people now has a population of over 22 million. This is why the indignes are fed up.

DomPerignon:
Imagine Zik had concentrated on developing Calabar or PH to rival Lagos but instead he decided to make Enugu the capital of old Eastern region purely out of continuing Ibo marginalisation of the coastal minorities

Before there was an Abuja there was an Enugu that pillaged the resources of minority people to build an Ibo city

Zik was very limited. Calabar or PH would have rivalled or surpassed if it were made the regional capital.