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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 10:32am On Jul 29, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Thailand's acting Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai said a ceasefire with Cambodia is only possible if Phnom Penh guarantees the safety of Thai civilians.

He dismissed U.S. President Trump’s warning about halting trade talks, stating it was “not a problem,” and rejected any third-party mediation, insisting on bilateral talks only.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 10:33am On Jul 29, 2025
Brazil has withdrawn from the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, days after joining South Africa's case against Israel at ICC.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:39am On Jul 29, 2025
⚡The EU has warned Kyiv through diplomatic channels that if it doesn’t revoke the provisions of law No. 12414 and restore NABU and SAP’s independence, financial aid will be suspended, Ukrainska Pravda.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 10:45am On Jul 29, 2025
The same people will scream starvation

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 10:56am On Jul 29, 2025

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 11:21am On Jul 29, 2025
❗️ Russia sees North Korea, China, and Iran as allies, sharing a common vision on world order principles — Kremlin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:04pm On Jul 29, 2025
Mikasaobi:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/28/middleeast/israeli-human-rights-group-accuses-israel-genocide-gaza-intl

I hope this ends the debate on genocide.
It will end when Israel officially acknowledges that it is committing genocide
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 1:00pm On Jul 29, 2025
obedience4:
There I go with what now??, this is the hypocrisy I keep talking about on the thread, if you wanna call out persons then let it be a general thing, if Jolani is a terrorist what shall will call Hamas, Hazebolla and the Houthis?? Freedom fighters??
You are always quick to call out persons outside the pro Russian horde, dude majority of our friends here supports Hamas, Hazebolla and the Houthis, I haven't seen your rebuttals directed against them


Try and read my correspondence here, I supports Jolani removing Assad, not going around killing and kidnapping civilians, I don't support killing and kidnapping of civilians, wasn't on this same thread someone called Sinwar the mastermind of the act which killed dozens of civilians a hero??, where you not here when persons celebrated the Houthis sinking of a civilian vessel which resulted in fatalities??

So if you wanna be the thin line between the two faction here then you shouldn't be bias with your criticism.

p.s Not that i give a damm about your opinion about me but try and be transparent with your criticism, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"
I hold no prejudice against any group, I call it like I see it. While terrorism is typically associated with non-state actors.
It is a well established facts the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas employ measures that can be translated as terrorism, anyone that says otherwise is just being naive.

Speaking transparently, do you agree Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza ?

For once, give an unbiased opinion.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 1:18pm On Jul 29, 2025
🚨 🇹🇷🇮🇱 BREAKING | Fatih Erbakan, leader of the New Welfare Party, exposes a shocking scandal:

"More than 5,000 Turks serve in the ranks of the Israeli occupation army, participating in the killing of Gaza’s children!
How does Erdoğan allow them to return to Turkey as if nothing happened?
What kind of leader is this? And what kind of government turns a blind eye to such moral decay and this national crime?!"
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 1:37pm On Jul 29, 2025
Mikasaobi:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/28/middleeast/israeli-human-rights-group-accuses-israel-genocide-gaza-intl

I hope this ends the debate on genocide.
I hope this settles the debate about who Mikasaobi truly is..

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 1:38pm On Jul 29, 2025
I found another commander Adamu on front page. Iran is now actually in alliance with Israel. Na wa oooo
This people will say anything to taint USA and Israel. grin grin

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 2:15pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
I hold no prejudice against any group, I call it like I see it. While terrorism is typically associated with non-state actors.
It is a well established facts the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas employ measures that can be translated as terrorism, anyone that says otherwise is just being naive.

Speaking transparently, do you agree Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza ?

For once, give an unbiased opinion.
The best way to answer your question is to first of all ask: "Has the Nigerian army committed war crimes in its fight against Boko Haram?"

It is not necessary to go about on a needless explanation. It is likely Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza..........continue reading. I hope you will not be among those who pick one line from a whole argument and discard the rest like freakyamanda

The truth is that it is difficult to come to a conclusion on whether Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza. War crimes is not just about killing 10, 20 civilians and even in the case of Gaza, 1000 civilian deaths is not likely to qualify as war crimes. That is a brutal fact. We have seen people who have been journalists in the day and Hamas fighters at night. We have seen the activities of UNRWA members in this whole shenanigan. And that is exactly why pro Israel and and pro western supporters down play what you seem to take serious.

You are fighting Hamas and a population that is largely sympathetic to Hamas. A faceless group that will never come out and identify themselves as Hamas members when there is a battle. A group that has no battle line and will never ever employ conventional tactics to fight a battle. Citizens hide Hamas fighters, maybe out of fear or anything else, I wouldn't know. Talk about starvation, there have been confirmed reports of Hamas members or its proxies looting aid trucks. If those ones are prevented from assessing the aid, we shout starvation of the citizens. Was the aid ever meant for Hamas in the first instance? All these things make it difficult to say with certainty that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza.

Israel fought against Iran, no one said anything about genocide. As Israel systematically dismantled Hezbollah leadership, there were no cries of genocide. The reason is simple. There were targets that could be isolated from ordinary civilians. This is not the case in Gaza. Hamas fighters are invisible. Nobody writes Hamas on their foreheads. A 12 year old or a woman could scream "help me" and run into the midst of soldiers for protection only to wield out a Kalashnikov and slaughter 10 to 20 soldiers. America learnt that the hard way in Afghanistan. Yet, somehow, war analysts on Nairaland expect a soldier who has milliseconds to decide between his life and death to spend time deciding who is Hamas or not? Like seriously?

And that's exactly why I asked if the Nigerian army has committed war crimes in its fight against Boko Haram. Both are very similar situations.

If I agree that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza, then I will have to agree that the Nigerian army has also committed war crimes in the north east.

Moving on, there is another question I will like you to answer. Has Russia committed war crimes in Ukraine? In this instance, we have ordinary citizens who can clearly be differentiated from the armed forces but which Russia has repeatedly attacked and killed. If Israel and Russia were to be arraigned in the ICC and convicted, there is no doubt Israel will get a lesser conviction than Russia. It's not about bias, it is what the situation required.

What do you say?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 2:41pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
I hold no prejudice against any group, I call it like I see it. While terrorism is typically associated with non-state actors.
It is a well established facts the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas employ measures that can be translated as terrorism, anyone that says otherwise is just being naive.

Speaking transparently, do you agree Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza ?

For once, give an unbiased opinion.
let me start by saying that throughout history, there hasn't been any major military campaign where there haven't been cases of war crimes committed by combatants, No country in the world who has fought any major war is immune to this, war crimes are bound to happen whenever there's a major military operations being carried out.

Now regarding the iDF in Gaza, it is on record that cases of war crimes have been committed by some members of the IDF, these are unilateral actions by some members of the iDf, these unilateral actions do not represent the official mandate of the IDf, every one knows that the IDF are the only military that gives notice before carrying out military strikes, the iDf has conducted herself in professional way during the course of the war in Gaza

It is also on record that the IDF leadership and the Israeli government had convicted IDF troops found to be culpable with acts deemed to be against international laws as it relates to the rules of engagement.

In conclusion there have been some cases of iDf troops committing crimes, that could be passed as war crimes, but that is a far cry from the genocide that is being falsely propagated by some folks here.

P.s ,I have never seen you call out those who supports the acts by Hamas, Hazebolla and the Houthis
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:43pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
The best way to answer your question is to first of all ask: "Has the Nigerian army committed war crimes in its fight against Boko Haram?"

It is not necessary to go about on a needless explanation. It is likely Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza..........continue reading. I hope you will not be among those who pick one line from a whole argument and discard the rest like freakyamanda

The truth is that it is difficult to come to a conclusion on whether Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza. War crimes is not just about killing 10, 20 civilians and even in the case of Gaza, 1000 civilian deaths is not likely to qualify as war crimes. That is a brutal fact. We have seen people who have been journalists in the day and Hamas fighters at night. We have seen the activities of UNRWA members in this whole shenanigan. And that is exactly why pro Israel and and pro western supporters down play what you seem to take serious.

You are fighting Hamas and a population that is largely sympathetic to Hamas. A faceless group that will never come out and identify themselves as Hamas members when there is a battle. A group that has no battle line and will never ever employ conventional tactics to fight a battle. Citizens hide Hamas fighters, maybe out of fear or anything else, I wouldn't know. Talk about starvation, there have been confirmed reports of Hamas members or its proxies looting aid trucks. If those ones are prevented from assessing the aid, we shout starvation of the citizens. Was the aid ever meant for Hamas in the first instance? All these things make it difficult to say with certainty that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza.

Israel fought against Iran, no one said anything about genocide. As Israel systematically dismantled Hezbollah leadership, there were no cries of genocide. The reason is simple. There were targets that could be isolated from ordinary civilians. This is not the case in Gaza. Hamas fighters are invisible. Nobody writes Hamas on their foreheads. A 12 year old or a woman could scream "help me" and run into the midst of soldiers for protection only to wield out a Kalashnikov and slaughter 10 to 20 soldiers. America learnt that the hard way in Afghanistan. Yet, somehow, war analysts on Nairaland expect a soldier who has milliseconds to decide between his life and death to spend time deciding who is Hamas or not? Like seriously?

And that's exactly why I asked if the Nigerian army has committed war crimes in its fight against Boko Haram. Both are very similar situations.

If I agree that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza, then I will have to agree that the Nigerian army has also committed war crimes in the north east.

Moving on, there is another question I will like you to answer. Has Russia committed war crimes in Ukraine? In this instance, we have ordinary citizens who can clearly be differentiated from the armed forces but which Russia has repeatedly attacked and killed. If Israel and Russia were to be arraigned in the ICC and convicted, there is no doubt Israel will get a lesser conviction than Russia. It's not about bias, it is what the situation required.

What do you say?
Are you kidding right now ? The Nigerian army and war crimes are like bread and butter, they go hand-in -hand.
A deliberate attempt to arm civilian is the simplest definition of war crimes, I asked for an unbiased opinion on the IDF misconducts in Gaza and you churn out more counter-accusations.

Finally, Russia and Ukraine committed war crimes in the on going SMO. I openly condemned both parties.

Are you willing to do the same about the IDF misconducts in Gaza ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 2:47pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
I found another commander Adamu on front page. Iran is now actually in alliance with Israel. Na wa oooo
This people will say anything to taint USA and Israel. grin grin
What "a fortunate stroke of serendipity" that they both bear the same name Adams.
😜😜😜😜😜
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:47pm On Jul 29, 2025
Obedience40:
let me start by saying that throughout history, there hasn't been any major military campaign where there haven't been cases of war crimes committed by combatants, No country in the world who has fought any major war is immune to this, war crimes are bound to happen whenever there's a major military operations being carried out.

Now regarding the iDF in Gaza, it is on record that cases of war crimes have been committed by some members of the IDF, these are unilateral actions by some members of the iDf, these unilateral actions do not represent the official mandate of the IDf, every one knows that the IDF are the only military that gives notice before carrying out military strikes, the iDf has conducted herself in professional way during the course of the war in Gaza

It is also on record that the IDF leadership and the Israeli government had convicted IDF troops found to be culpable with acts deemed to be against international laws as it relates to the rules of engagement.

In conclusion there have been some cases of iDf troops committing crimes, that could be passed as war crimes, but that is a far cry from the genocide that is being falsely propagated by some folks here.

P.s ,I have never seen you call out those who supports the acts by Hamas, Hazebolla and the Houthis
Finally, you agree they committed war crimes, that's all that matters.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 2:54pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
Finally, you agree they committed war crimes, that's all that matters.
Looking at your earlier posts, it is pleasing to know that you have now acknowledged that the Russians are committing war crimes in Ukraine, and that Hamas, Hazebolla and Houthis are terrorists groups, that's OK by me i will take that.

Let your criticism be both ways, not just targeted at some individuals

Cheers
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 3:15pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
I hope this settles the debate about who Mikasaobi truly is..
I thought it’ll make a difference if it’s coming from an Isreali human rights group and western media. I guess not.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by amadivv: 3:17pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Over 30 people have been killed in China's flood and another 80,000 displaced.

Writterng, you no go report am?
Oh, I forget say na only bad news from the West dey harden your preeq.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:20pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
I asked for an unbiased opinion on the IDF misconducts in Gaza and you churn out more counter-accusations.

Are you willing to do the same about the IDF misconducts in Gaza ?
You asked for an unbiased opinion, I gave you and unbiased answer. The truth is you are expecting an answer in the form of a polar question. A Yes or No. Only people who can't give cogent analysis would answer such a question in a yes or no.

There is a reason why we have colours. Everything doesn't have to be black or white

Lastly, I specifically directed my question about Nigerian army based solely on the fight against Boko Haram. Your answer was more of things that have been done prior to Boko Haram. You specifically didn't answer that question.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:21pm On Jul 29, 2025
Mikasaobi:
I thought it’ll make a difference if it’s coming from an Isreali human rights group and western media. I guess not.
Anybody or group can make allegations.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:26pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
A deliberate attempt to arm civilian is the simplest definition of war crimes.
I specifically love this part of your response.
Has there been a deliberate attempt to harm civilians by the Nigerian military in the fight against Boko haram? I will like instances please. I am particular about that word "deliberate" and let's not forget that you have said the Nigerian army and war crimes are bread and butter.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:30pm On Jul 29, 2025
Obedience40:
What "a fortunate stroke of serendipity" that they both bear the same name Adams.
😜😜😜😜😜
Can we now say because two Adams are thinking the same way, we should start a profiling of people bearing the name "Adam" just like Mr Pogo is using the actions of a few soldiers to determine genocide? 🤣🤣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:34pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
Are you kidding right now ? The Nigerian army and war crimes are like bread and butter, they go hand-in -hand.
A deliberate attempt to arm civilian is the simplest definition of war crimes, I asked for an unbiased opinion on the IDF misconducts in Gaza and you churn out more counter-accusations.

Finally, Russia and Ukraine committed war crimes in the on going SMO. I openly condemned both parties.

Are you willing to do the same about the IDF misconducts in Gaza ?
If a deliberate attempt and NOT a mistaken attempt to harm civilians is the definition of war crimes, then I will not condemn IDF in Gaza. There is simply no deliberate attempt to harm civilians. Cheers!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:40pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
Finally, Russia and Ukraine committed war crimes in the on going SMO.
And right here is you doing exactly the same thing you accused Mr Obedience4 of just yesternight. I specifically asked you about Russia, you lumped Russia and Ukraine. The same "whataboutism" you preached against just less than 24 hours ago.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 3:58pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
I specifically love this part of your response.
Has there been a deliberate attempt to harm civilians by the Nigerian military in the fight against Boko haram? I will like instances please. I am particular about that word "deliberate" and let's not forget that you have said the Nigerian army and war crimes are bread and butter.
Bro stick to the Gaza issue, enough with the counter-accusations.
Yes I said the Nigerian army is guilty of war crimes, are going to whitewash that too ?

The ogoniland case has been swept under the carpet, I hope you won't try to tarnish the image of Honorable Ken Saro-Wiwa by absolving the Nigerian army of that .
Another well documented instance is the 2014 report by Amnesty international.

"We have consistently been saying the Nigerian government needs to ensure that the culture of impunity which is entrenched within the Nigerian security services is addressed immediately," Netsanet Belay, AI's African Director, told Anadolu Agency.

"Investigation must be conducted and those found to have (committed) such atrocities must be held accountable," he said.

In a report released Tuesday Amnesty said it had obtained video footage showing civilian detainees being slaughtered by a combined team of soldiers and members of the government-backed Civilian Joint Task Force (CJTF) vigilante group.

"The footage, obtained from numerous sources during a recent trip to Borno state, reveals graphic evidence of multiple war crimes being carried out in Nigeria," it said. "

Another report by Al Jazeera in Feb 2010
"Nigerian police and military units carried out extra-judicial killings last year in the aftermath of clashes with members of a Muslim group in the north of the country, footage obtained by Al Jazeera appears to confirm.

An estimated 1,000 people were killed as Nigerian government forces fought Boko Haram in Borno, Yobe, Kano and Bauchi states in July and August of 2009.

But the footage obtained by Al Jazeera shows that many of the deaths occurred only after the fighting was over.

"

The media space is filled to the brim containing war crimes committed by the Nigerian army.
Funny you mentioned Nigerian army
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 4:02pm On Jul 29, 2025
Gbadebo19:
And right here is you doing exactly the same thing you accused Mr Obedience4 of just yesternight. I specifically asked you about Russia, you lumped Russia and Ukraine. The same "whataboutism" you preached against just less than 24 hours ago.
I don't understand the intent of this quote bro, that was not an accusations, both Russia and Ukraine committed war crimes.
I hope you know targeting civilian infrastructures is also considered war crimes, the Russians are doing that daily.
The Ukrainians killed civilians deliberately in Kursk, it's all over there news.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:27pm On Jul 29, 2025
usmanpogo:
Bro stick to the Gaza issue, enough with the counter-accusations.
Yes I said the Nigerian army is guilty of war crimes, are going to whitewash that too ?

The ogoniland case has been swept under the carpet, I hope you won't try to tarnish the image of Honorable Ken Saro-Wiwa by absolving the Nigerian army of that .
Another well documented instance is the 2014 report by Amnesty international.

"We have consistently been saying the Nigerian government needs to ensure that the culture of impunity which is entrenched within the Nigerian security services is addressed immediately," Netsanet Belay, AI's African Director, told Anadolu Agency.

"Investigation must be conducted and those found to have (committed) such atrocities must be held accountable," he said.

In a report released Tuesday Amnesty said it had obtained video footage showing civilian detainees being slaughtered by a combined team of soldiers and members of the government-backed Civilian Joint Task Force (CJTF) vigilante group.

"The footage, obtained from numerous sources during a recent trip to Borno state, reveals graphic evidence of multiple war crimes being carried out in Nigeria," it said. "

Another report by Al Jazeera in Feb 2010
"Nigerian police and military units carried out extra-judicial killings last year in the aftermath of clashes with members of a Muslim group in the north of the country, footage obtained by Al Jazeera appears to confirm.

An estimated 1,000 people were killed as Nigerian government forces fought Boko Haram in Borno, Yobe, Kano and Bauchi states in July and August of 2009.

But the footage obtained by Al Jazeera shows that many of the deaths occurred only after the fighting was over.

"

The media space is filled to the brim containing war crimes committed by the Nigerian army.
Funny you mentioned Nigerian army
I perfectly understand you brother. But one thing is clear. The fact that the Nigerian army did so and so in the south south and some other places does not mean every action of theirs is a war crime. Okay, Russia commits war crime in Ukraine, does that mean they will commit war crime in every subsequent operation?
We can't stick to the Gaza Issue. There is no single situation in the world right now that is a first of its kind. While they may not be totally identical, there will be similarities and I need you to answer specifically if Nigerian army deliberately harmed innocent civilians while fighting Boko Haram (as per your simplest definition of war crime). The fact that 1000 civilians were killed is not enough to determine if it were a war crime, it must be deliberate. And I think you are missing something. You quoted Aljazeera as reporting that most of the deaths occured after the fighting was over. I ask: Has the fight against Boko Haram ever been over?

I see this as an attempt to evade a very important question that can be used to determine whether IDF is actually committing war crimes in Gaza or not.
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