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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
shoodboi2:
Good. But your definition is vague, open to multiple interpretations, and excludes states from being categorized as state sponsors of terrorism.

Firstly, are you implying that violence and intimidation meted against civilians for political purposes only qualifies as terrorism when it is unlawful. Are you saying such violence is not terrorism when it is lawful?

I should add that most countries do not have any law against their governments using violence against their own population or even foreign populations (whether for political aims or not). So, your definition also clearly excludes states from being perpetrators of terror activities, whether within their own state or in foreign states.

Secondly, your definition also does not capture multiple events that constitute unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Let me use two examples from Nigeria as examples so you can relate with them:

The first is MEND aka Niger Delta militants. They were not considered terrorists even though they primarily used unlawful violence against civilians in pursuit for political aims. They killed soldiers at intervals but that was when the soldiers came after them or were guarding facilities they were attacking.

Their primary targets were civilians, especially oil workers who they often kidnapped or killed. Let us also not forget that this same MEND popularized car bombing in Nigeria, particularly in the late 2000s, until Boko Haram took their place. But no one calls them terrorists despite what they did.

The second is the October 1993 hijacking of a Nigeria Airways flight by four men from the Movement for the Advancement of Democracy. They seized an airplane filled with passengers, flying from Lagos to Abuja and diverted it to Niamey, Niger where they called for Sani Abacha to resign and return to democratic rule.

The men were arrested after Nigerien troops stormed the plane and their actions clearly qualify as terrorist according to your definition, but no one calls them such.

(There are other foreign groups but I deliberately used Nigeria since I believe you should know about them and can better relate with them.)

Then let me make a final example of a foreign group that was labelled a terror group even though it does not meet your definition.

That is the Irish Republican Army. They wanted to end British rule in Northern Ireland and unite it with Ireland. The UK categorized them as terrorists even though they primarily used unlawful violence against the British military, police, and paramilitary rather than civilians.
I asked you a simple question, you are busy writing epistles

Those definitions i got from the Internet i didn't formulate them myself.

Is Sinwar your hero a terrorist, yes or no?
Are Hamas, Hazebolla and the Houthis terrorist groups, Yes or No??

If your above answers to the questions are No, please give me your own preferred definitions of who a terrorist is and a terrorist group is.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 2:18am On Jul 30, 2025
IMEI:
What's the point of arguing with people who'll never concede to superior arguments? Unless you enjoy endless (read pointless) engagements

🤷🏾‍♂️
Gbadebo19 and usmanpogo were having a good conversation, devoid of insult, a proper discuss, before you interpose with your needless scribbles, nobody asked for your opinion man, and besides who made you of all people the arbiter in the thread? What gives you the impression that you possess the perspicacity to determine what is superior or not?? Will you stop interjecting yourself into discuss way above your paygrade

What a cliche coming from the same person, who later went and have a lengthy spree with the same people who he tags as never conceding to "superior" arguments.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:39am On Jul 30, 2025
Obedience40:
Gbadebo19 and usmanpogo were having a good conversation, devoid of insult, a proper discuss, before you interpose with your needless scribbles, nobody asked for your opinion man, and besides who made you of all people the arbiter in the thread? What gives you the impression that you possess the perspicacity to determine what is superior or not?? Will you stop interjecting yourself into discuss way above your paygrade

What a cliche coming from the same person, who later went and have a lengthy spree with the same people who he tags as never conceding to "superior" arguments.
All this just to say nothing

Not shocked...not even a bit
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 5:17am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡British intelligence reports that Russia has rapidly built protective aircraft shelters at western military airfields.

These shelters are now appearing en masse across multiple bases, covering nearly the entire fleet, and are drastically reducing the vulnerability of Russian aircraft to Ukrainian drone strikes.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 6:05am On Jul 30, 2025
Donald Trump on Putin's response to his threats of 10 days:
"I haven't gotten any response from Putin.
It's a disgrace."

Donald Trump doesn't understand that Putin is not Kier Starmer, Mark Rutte
...Is he perhaps waiting for Vladimir Putin to fall at his feet with an apology?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:32am On Jul 30, 2025
5 hours ago: An 8.7 magnitude earthquake just occurred off the Pacific coast of Russia, just 80 miles to the east of the Russian Navy's strategic Rybachiy submarine base.

Tsunami warnings have been issued for the area, with heavy shaking and damage already reported by locals.

The people that praise Writterng for covering so called "both sides", I wonder how they will be feeling by now.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 6:44am On Jul 30, 2025
seunny4lif:
Donald Trump on Putin's response to his threats of 10 days:
"I haven't gotten any response from Putin.
It's a disgrace."

Donald Trump doesn't understand that Putin is not Kier Starmer, Mark Rutte
...Is he perhaps waiting for Vladimir Putin to fall at his feet with an apology?
Trump wants to use Putin to get his much coveted Nobel Peace Prize. grin He wants the world to see him as the man who ended the Russo-Ukraine war.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 7:18am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡A massive 8.8 earthquake hit off Russia’s Kamchatka Peninsula, causing injuries, damaging buildings, and generating a 4-meter tsunami.

Japan and Hawaii issued evacuations as tsunami warnings spread across the Pacific.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 7:18am On Jul 30, 2025
seunny4lif:
Donald Trump on Putin's response to his threats of 10 days:
"I haven't gotten any response from Putin.
It's a disgrace."

Donald Trump doesn't understand that Putin is not Kier Starmer, Mark Rutte
...Is he perhaps waiting for Vladimir Putin to fall at his feet with an apology?
He should be patient.
Putin will deliver his response after he slaps the secondary tariffs.

NK specified a new prerequisite for negotiations with the US -- recognize NK as an irreversible nuclear power.
Iran clarified it is not seeking new talks with the US until Washington satisfies private preset conditions. Enrichment remains a red line.
China has enforced a new paradigm. For every action, there will be a smack.
Russia has delivered a response through Medvedev.

You don't need a sign language interpreter to understand that the Axis is in FAFO mode.

Na so Iran b dey write long, carefully-worded letter to explain their position and security interests.
Meanwhile USreal dey plan the assassination of the letter writers.

That playbook only works once.
The Axis already knows what he wants to do. He should do it and let's move on to the next phase.

You will be an ex-President in 3 years.
You 1 follow supreme leaders dey play ludo.
The audacity!

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 7:22am On Jul 30, 2025
Gbadebo19:
5 hours ago: An 8.7 magnitude earthquake just occurred off the Pacific coast of Russia, just 80 miles to the east of the Russian Navy's strategic Rybachiy submarine base.

Tsunami warnings have been issued for the area, with heavy shaking and damage already reported by locals.

The people that praise Writterng for covering so called "both sides", I wonder how they will be feeling by now.
Shortlived celebration.

The tsunami has already hit 🇺🇸 Hawaii, Alaska and Japan. And after tsunamis, earthquakes usually comes next.

Imagine a grown man celebrating a natural disaster that occurs on every continent except maybe Africa. Just because it's Russia.

Well news flash, it also hit the US.

I've even lost count the number of earthquakes that have struck U.S mainland this year alone.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 7:24am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡Trump says he will allow Ukrainian refugees to stay in the US until the end of the war.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 7:24am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡Violent tsunami waves crashed into Tokaicho, in the southeastern part of Choshi City, Chiba Prefecture, Japan, at 12:00 PM local time.

https://x.com/inteltower/status/1950413633466310676

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 7:31am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡🇺🇸 LAPD helicopter uses loudspeaker to ask everyone to move to higher ground due to possible tsunami wave at 1 a.m. PT.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 7:56am On Jul 30, 2025
Hoaxen:
How does you saying "Not everyone has a sharp wit and intellect, but with the way you easily understood my post" mean anything other than only those as"intelligent" as you can understand your post?
Are you trying to change the meaning of words of the English language?

You say you don't try to "indoctrinate" then proceeds to call anything that doesn't fit well with your propaganda "false opinions". And call those who are not easily brainwashed by your "opinions" fools.

The arguments put forward by usman is exactly the same arguments echoed by pro Hamas and pro Russia keyboard warriors here. Suddenly you are trying to pretend as if what he was saying is completely different from what you guys have been saying here since. And you called those exact same arguments that we know as propaganda, "superior".

You just went round in a circle and returned back to were we started. It's funny how you denied the meaning of words.
You should invent your own version of English language so that whenever you are caught making implicating statements, you can claim that you were not speaking conventional English and that instead, you were speaking a new version of English that you invented.

You have a new defensive claim for your propaganda machine. Congrats 👏👏👏
I like this guy!!

Take a bow!, Take a bow!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 8:01am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
Imagine a grown man celebrating a natural disaster that occurs on every continent except maybe Africa. Just because it's Russia.
The irony. Imagine this coming from someone who has a reputation for scavenging hundreds of websites for plane crashes and wildfires in USA. 😂 😂😂😂
And for your info,we know it hit Japan, US, Hawaii etc...

Doesn't change the fact that Russia was the worst hit!!!!! tongue tongue
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:06am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
Shortlived celebration.

The tsunami has already hit 🇺🇸 Hawaii, Alaska and Japan. And after tsunamis, earthquakes usually comes next.

Imagine a grown man celebrating a natural disaster that occurs on every continent except maybe Africa. Just because it's Russia.

Well news flash, it also hit the US.

I've even lost count the number of earthquakes that have struck U.S mainland this year alone.
He wasn't celebrating anything, You are the master of reporting natural disasters that happens on the west in this forum, Can't you read and comprehend simple statements?? he was only calling out your double standards, Your constant inability to comprehend effectively makes me question the kind of education you received during your formative years.

When it comes to celebrating natural disasters, nobody comes close to your record, do you have amnesia?? Have you forgotten how you celebrated the wild fires in the US??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 8:10am On Jul 30, 2025
Gbadebo19:
The irony. Imagine this coming from someone who has a reputation for scavenging hundreds of websites for plane crashes and wildfires in USA. 😂 😂😂😂
And for your info,we know it hit Japan, US, Hawaii etc...

Doesn't change the fact that Russia was the worst hit!!!!! tongue tongue
And who was the worst hit, the dozens of times I posted US earthquakes?? 🤣

How many earthquakes have hit Russia the past 2 years?... compare it with the ones that have hit the US this year alone 😉

I've already wagered $250 on Polymarket that another earthquake will hit US mainland before November. To win $1050.

Thats how certain i am 😁
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by soqmeov(m): 8:14am On Jul 30, 2025
Even the brethren dey collect for the hands of God's chosen people angry

And to think that there are Christian groups in the US funding this... I'm speechless
https://www.npr.org/2009/06/12/105310088/american-christian-funding-flows-to-jewish-settlers

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 8:14am On Jul 30, 2025
⚡Trump:

Melania likes Putin. We know him. I get along with him very well.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 8:41am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Trump:

Melania likes Putin. We know him. I get along with him very well.
' We will impose tariffs and so on.
And I don't know if this will affect Russia, because he [Putin] obviously probably wants to continue the war. But we will impose tariffs and various measures. It may affect, or it may not, but maybe it will' – Trump.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by soqmeov(m): 8:41am On Jul 30, 2025
Donald Trump on negotiations with Russia:

"I'm not so interested in talking anymore, we had such respectful and nice conversations and then people died the following night and the missiles are going in....". (Sounds strangely similar to their playbook in Iran grin)


"....They have a lot of valuable things, when you talk about rare earths. So Russia could be so rich right now instead they spend all their money on war, they spend everything on war and killing people..."

Okay! Mr Trump is basically projecting right now.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:50am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Another CEO Killed in New York Shooting.
Oh the weapons sent to Ukraine is coming back to kill their citizens grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:51am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Around 20 minutes ago, an Iskander-M ballistic missile struck an AFU training ground near Goncharivske, Chernihiv Oblast.

An Orlan-10 recon drone adjusted the strike.
Oh no
More new recruits in Ukraine dying like bugs grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:52am On Jul 30, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Trump:

Putin wants to keep the war going. Our tariffs may or may not affect them.
The client Orange man is now saying the truth grin
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