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The following will help us get a gleams of Gods complex nature. Why the phrase, one essence, three persons is fitting is because of some scriptures that suggests so.

1. Matt 28

19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

Here we see singular name, but three persons.

JWs will say that the Holy Spirit is not a person. If that were true, the Holy Spirit wouldnt appear here since the Father already has been mentioned.

At Genesis we see this sungular nature, but more than one persons being repeated in some verses.

Gen 1:26

"Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness... "

"God" Is singular, but he says let "us", and also in " OUR" image and not imageS. Of course, we know we are made in God's image, not image of two individuals. This helps us see that there is a sense in which God is both one, and more than one at the same time. Scholars have identified that this One is in reference to his nature, while in personhood, He is three.

At Genesis 3:5 satan said that Eve will be like God if she eats the fruit. Now notice a shocking statement by God at verse 22:

"...Here the man has become like one of US in knowing good and bad... "

Did you see that? Instead of God saying the man has become like me, he rather said has becime like one of US, plural, yet the one speaking is Jehovah, singular. This is even more significant if youre a JWs, since among JWs, the knowledge is a special knowledge of determining what is moral good and bad. This is especially reserved for the Almighty who is the Universal Sovereign. Ok, now we are seeing another Sovereign. Well, is it not tre that only the Father and the Son that is called King of Kings and Lord of Lords? Obviously Universal Sovereign.

See another example at Genesis 11

7 Come! Let US go down there and confuse their language in order that they may not understand one another’s language.”

From verse 6, we see that only Jehovah is the one speaking, as if speaking to himself, but in verse 7, he says let US. Plural. Now from verse 8, we see that the one who scattered their language is still Jehovah, singular. The account didn't mention that he was speaking to anyone but himself.

Side note: I believe that the word Jehovah is probably the name of God's nature. It wasnt only used for the Father in the scriptures.

We can see that in one sense, God is one, and in another more than one. Trinity is the effort made to bring all that the sceiptures has to say about God in one name. One Nature, three persons.

There are other examples of this singular in one sense and plural in another sense in the scriptures, but I will stop here for now.


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Sand2022:
The following will help us get a gleams of Gods complex nature. Why the phrase, one essence, three persons is fitting is because of some scriptures that suggests so.

1. Matt 28

19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

Here we see singular name, but three persons.

JWs will say that the Holy Spirit is not a person. If that were true, the Holy Spirit wouldnt appear here since the Father already has been mentioned.

At Genesis we see this sungular nature, but more than one persons being repeated in some verses.

Gen 1:26

"Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness... "

"God" Is singular, but he says let "us", and also in " OUR" image and not imageS. Of course, we know we are made in God's image, not image of two individuals. This helps us see that there is a sense in which God is both one, and more than one at the same time. Scholars have identified that this One is in reference to his nature, while in personhood, He is three.

At Genesis 3:5 satan said that Eve will be like God if she eats the fruit. Now notice a shocking statement by God at verse 22:

"...Here the man has become like one of US in knowing good and bad... "

Did you see that? Instead of God saying the man has become like me, he rather said has becime like one of US, plural, yet the one speaking is Jehovah, singular. This is even more significant if youre a JWs, since among JWs, the knowledge is a special knowledge of determining what is moral good and bad. This is especially reserved for the Almighty who is the Universal Sovereign. Ok, now we are seeing another Sovereign. Well, is it not tre that only the Father and the Son that is called King of Kings and Lord of Lords? Obviously Universal Sovereign.

See another example at Genesis 11

7 Come! Let US go down there and confuse their language in order that they may not understand one another’s language.”

From verse 6, we see that only Jehovah is the one speaking, as if speaking to himself, but in verse 7, he says let US. Plural. Now from verse 8, we see that the one who scattered their language is still Jehovah, singular. The account didn't mention that he was speaking to anyone but himself.

Side note: I believe that the word Jehovah is probably the name of God's nature. It wasnt only used for the Father in the scriptures.

We can see that in one sense, God is one, and in another more than one. Trinity is the effort made to bring all that the sceiptures has to say about God in one name. One Nature, three persons.

There are other examples of this singular in one sense and plural in another sense in the scriptures, but I will stop here for now.


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I am coming back soon to destroy the false doctrine of trinity. Heads will roll (biko not human heads ), mouths will be silenced. And as usual, undisputable.

God said his name is Jehovah, him alone bears that name. And people knew him by his name. Psalm 83:18. Now you want to force it on his nature. You even said it wasn't used for the Father alone in the scripture. I wonder who is teaching you people these blunders and fatal lies. Which scripture? I am tired of you people. But I won't be tired. I am coming back.

God called Abraham his friend even as high as he is. God also said to mere mortal "come let us reason together." How much more to people who are with him. Maybe you will also say human beings are equal to God since he made us like himself. That's fourth people in the fournity.

Haven't you seen seen an angel speaking as if he is God, Judges 2:1-5. You will also say this angel is God. The MAN who fought with Jacob nko? This is what happens when we don't know God very well.

Let me finish my work fes.

Boomark:
I am coming back soon to destroy the false doctrine of trinity. Heads will roll (biko not human heads ), mouths will be silenced. And as usual, undisputable.

God said his name is Jehovah, him alone bears that name. And people knew him by his name. Psalm 83:18. Now you want to force it on his nature. You even said it wasn't used for the Father alone in the scripture. I wonder who is teaching you people these blunders and fatal lies. Which scripture? I am tired of you people. But I won't be tired. I am coming back.

God called Abraham his friend even as high as he is. God also said to mere mortal "come let us reason together." How much more to people who are with him. Maybe you will also say human beings are equal to God since he made us like himself. That's fourth people in the fournity.

Haven't you seen seen an angel speaking as if he is God, Judges 2:1-5. You will also say this angel is God. The MAN who fought with Jacob nko? This is what happens when we don't know God very well.

Let me finish my work fes.

Many have tried and they have failed miserably! Arian was surely more knowledgeable than you, we definitely knew his end! 👀

Boomark:
I am coming back soon to destroy the false doctrine of trinity. Heads will roll (biko not human heads ), mouths will be silenced. And as usual, undisputable.

God said his name is Jehovah, him alone bears that name. And people knew him by his name. Psalm 83:18. Now you want to force it on his nature. You even said it wasn't used for the Father alone in the scripture. I wonder who is teaching you people these blunders and fatal lies. Which scripture? I am tired of you people. But I won't be tired. I am coming back.

Jesus, called Angel of the Lord in the OT still bear that name Jehovah. (See Zech 3:2)

God called Abraham his friend even as high as he is. God also said to mere mortal "come let us reason together." How much more to people who are with him. Maybe you will also say human beings are equal to God since he made us like himself. That's fourth people in the fournity[/quite]

You didn't understand the point. Read it some more.

[quote]Haven't you seen seen an angel speaking as if he is God, Judges 2:1-5. You will also say this angel is God. The MAN who fought with Jacob nko? This is what happens when we don't know God very well.

Yes, that Angel is evidently Jesus. The way that Angel operate shows he is not just a created Angel, but one with Divine nature. He is worshiped and he is referred to as God and Yahweh. No Angel is worshiped in the bible.

Sand2022:
Jesus, called Angel of the Lord in the OT still bear that name Jehovah. (See Zech 3:2)

Please go to my new topic and learn. I don't why you people enjoy lying.

There is no where Jesus or any angel was called Jehovah In Zechariah 3:2.

Gabrielshow24:
Many have tried and they have failed miserably! Arian was surely more knowledgeable than you, we definitely knew his end! 👀

I don't fail in what I do. Go and see where trinitarians have fail.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false#136084557

Boomark:
Please go to my new topic and learn. I don't why you people enjoy lying.

There is no where Jesus or any angel was called Jehovah In Zechariah 3:2.

Quote the verse here

Sand2022:
Quote the verse here

Zechariah 3:2 LSB
[2] And Yahweh said to Satan, “Yahweh rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, Yahweh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand delivered from the fire?”

Zechariah 3:2 NIV

[2] The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

Chose any one you like.

Boomark:
Zechariah 3:2 LSB
[2] And Yahweh said to Satan, “Yahweh rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, Yahweh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand delivered from the fire?”

Zechariah 3:2 NIV

[2] The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

Chose any one you like.

Who would you think the first Yahweh referred to?

Sand2022:
Who would you think the first Yahweh referred to?

It is Yahweh. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Boomark:
It is Yahweh. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

So two persons bear the one name. You agree?

Sand2022:
So two persons bear the one name. You agree?

No. One person.

that verse is confusing, but i read it in context, i think there is only one lord most high. which is the one doing the rebuking. the one who made the first statement has to be the angel or joshua or possibly zachariah.

Boomark:
No. One person.

From the verse quoted, only one person is speaking to himself?

sonmvayina:
that verse is confusing, but i read it in context, i think there is only one lord most high. which is the one doing the rebuking. the one who made the first statement has to be the angel or joshua or possibly zachariah.

Perhaps the unique Angel of the Lord. So it is logical to say two persons bear the one title Yahweh?

Sand2022:
From the verse quoted, only one person is speaking to himself?

One person is speaking to satan not to himself.

I still haven't seen your evidence of Jesus in the Zechariah 3:2 you asked me to post. You should be the one showing me.

Boomark:
One person is speaking to satan not to himself.

I still haven't seen your evidence of Jesus in the Zechariah 3:2 you asked me to post. You should be the one showing me.

So Yahweh said, Yahweh rebuke you Satan? Like the same Yahweh is saying Himself ( Yahweh) should rebuke Satan? Would that be your understanding?

Sand2022:
So Yahweh said, Yahweh rebuke you Satan? Like the same Yahweh is saying Himself ( Yahweh) should rebuke Satan? Would that be your understanding?

Yes that's what it is. Made a correction in your statement.

So when I am going to get my own answer of seeing Jesus in this Zechariah 3:2? I have been the one answering question of what you believe in. You should be the one showing me things unless you don't understand what you believe in.

sonmvayina:
that verse is confusing, but i read it in context, i think there is only one lord most high. which is the one doing the rebuking. the one who made the first statement has to be the angel or joshua or possibly zachariah.

It is not confusing. If you know God the Father It will only confuse those who believe in trinity and those who has been confused by the word "LORD".

I want him to tell me where he saw Jesus in that verse first. It is just a simple thing that those who believe in trinity will never understand.

Sand2022:
Perhaps the unique Angel of the Lord. So it is logical to say two persons bear the one title Yahweh?

So you now believe that Jesus is an angel of God?

Boomark:
Yes that's what it is. Made a correction in your statement.

So when I am going to get my own answer of seeing Jesus in this Zechariah 3:2? I have been the one answering question of what you believe in. You should be the one showing me things unless you don't understand what you believe in.

Ok. I see things differently here. I see two persons in that Zech 3:2. It wouldn't be logical to call to oneself to rebuke someone. I don't see how that makes sense. But I am happy to know you see it that way.

I believe the unique Angel of the Lord is the one speaking to Satan.