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iamteegee:
To the unbelievers, it's time to come to Jesus and accept Him as your Lord , believe in your heart that Jesus is lord , died, resurrected and seated at the right hand and say I believe you are the giver of eternal life and I receive eternal life by faith today, I am now a born again. Ask for the Spirit to come in you and lead you, pray in the Spirit

MaxInDHouse:
Apart from what you read in the Bible as everyone can read as well what assured you that these information are true?

iamteegee:
Apart from what I've read in the bible are encounters even before reading it's having the same encounters as some of the experiences written by some of the writers, God speaks to me and I've confirmed it many times to be true, I have seen some of the things the writers saw in their days.

iamteegee:
Is God Behind the Destruction Happening in the World Today?

Short answer: No.
God is not the author of destruction, chaos, or disaster in the new covenant. Many still project the Old Testament judgments onto a New Covenant reality, missing the progressive revelation of God through Jesus Christ, who is the exact representation of God’s nature Hebrews 1:3.

Understanding Judgment in Context

Every account in the Bible is progressive and well put together by the help of the Holy Spirit.

The Bible isn’t flat, it is progressive in revelation, culminating in Christ. In the Old Testament, judgment often seemed swift and severe. But remember:

John 1:17 – For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

God worked with mankind through limited covenants before Christ came. Those judgments (like the flood or Sodom) were part of a fallen world's interaction with a holy God before the cross made reconciliation and righteousness by faith possible.

The Flood & the Rainbow Genesis 6–9

Noah found grace- not because he was perfect, but because he had faith (Hebrews 11:7). The flood was not God's desire; it was a response to overwhelming violence and corruption (Genesis 6:5–13). Afterward, God made a covenant, sealing it with the rainbow, promising never to destroy the earth with a flood again.

So when people say, “God used a flood to punish that nation ,” we must say No!, not according to His covenant. If He said, “Never again,” then He meant it
or wild fire or tsunami or earthquake or to humans people say "God has strike this person" e.g stroke, untimely death, diseases, struck by lightening etc

That is not God! Stop using your standard or emotions of what evil or good should be to paint a god in your heart.

Jesus is the True Revelation of God

“Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil” 1 John 3:8
“The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I have come that they may have life” John 10:10

Here’s the clarity: Destruction is the devil’s work.
Life is God’s will.
Jesus didn’t go around causing or discipline or trying to show who He is by storms or cursing cities with tsunamis. Instead, He healed, restored, and calmed storms. That’s the clear evidence of who God truly is.

Colossians 1:15 – “Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.”

If you can’t imagine Jesus doing it, don’t accuse God of it.

Misreading Natural Disasters as God’s Judgment

Take a look at what happened in Brazil, where people said God sent a flood after mockery of Jesus.

Let me ask you

Did Jesus ever destroy mockers?

Did He call down fire on those who rejected Him?

No, and in fact, He rebuked James and John when they wanted to (Luke 9:54–56): “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.”

That is the true nature of God.

God’s Heart is Redemption, Not Revenge

2 Peter 3:9 – “The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

God is patient, loving, and merciful—even toward the ungodly. The delay of judgment is not neglect; it's mercy.

“God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their sins against them” – 2 Corinthians 5:19

We Are the Light of the World

Even though darkness covers the earth, as believers we are to shine the truth and represent Christ accurately—not as an angry punisher, but as a loving Savior.

Finally Siblings

God is not behind war, earthquakes, tsunamis, or pandemics.

He doesn’t punish nations with disasters in this New Covenant era.

Jesus is God's heart revealed: healing, forgiving, saving, calming, loving.

Believers must move beyond fear-based interpretations and know God through Christ—His true image.

To the unbelievers, it's time to come to Jesus and accept Him as your Lord , believe in your heart that Jesus is lord , died, resurrected and seated at the right hand and say I believe you are the giver of eternal life and I receive eternal life by faith today, I am now a born again. Ask for the Spirit to come in you and lead you, pray in the Spirit

Ken4Christ:
I don't agree with you. While it is true that evil comes basically from the devil, God still judges unrighteousness in certain circumstances.

Apostle Paul wrote:

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

Notice the phrase, 'for the wrath of God is revealed' It's written in a present continuous term. It didn't say, 'it's going to be revealed'. There is of course full blown wrath of God that will be revealed in the future. But, right now, it's already revealed.

Do you still see rainbows as it used to be many years back? God said he will not permit the flood to destroy the world if he sees the rainbow.

There's so much ungodliness today on earth that is attracting this wrath. And places where this disasters happen have traits of gross ungodliness.

God is not willing that any should perish. But most of these countries have heard the gospel. They are just suppressing it in unrighteousness..

If any country or community repent and turn to God, such disasters will cease.

lekkie073:
Man is an entity with freewill. This means our time and activities on earth are purely ours to determine. God has no input in it

lekkie073:
Man is an entity with freewill. This means our time and activities on earth are purely ours to determine. God has no input in it

Arda1000:
Yes who else?

dollypi:
Yes he is the one responsible.


Isaiah 45:7
New International Version

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

iamteegee:
Old Covenant Context

Isaiah is speaking to Israel in captivity, and God is reminding them of His sovereign power, He can bring peace or allow disaster to humble nations or deliver His people.

2. God Is Not the Author of Moral Evil

God is light and in Him is no darkness at all (1 John 1:5).

James 1:13: “God cannot be tempted with evil, neither does He tempt any man.”

God may use calamity (not create moral evil) to fulfill His redemptive purposes.

3. Christ Reveals the True Character of God

Jesus is the exact image of the Father (Heb. 1:3, John 14:9).

Jesus never created evil or sent disaster—He healed, forgave, restored, and gave life.

Through the cross, Jesus took our calamity, our judgment, and gave us peace (Isaiah 53:5).


Old Covenant View Fulfilled in Christ

God forms light and creates darkness vs In Christ, we are called out of darkness into His marvelous light (1 Peter 2:9)
God makes peace and creates calamity vs Jesus is our peace, reconciling us through the cross (Eph. 2:14)
God rules over calamity vs. Jesus bore the judgment so we may walk in grace, not wrath (Rom. 5:9)

Isaiah 45:7 does not teach that God creates sin or moral evil.
It speaks of God's sovereignty over natural events (light/dark, peace/disaster) in the Old Covenant.

But in the New Covenant, Jesus Christ reveals the heart of the Father:

What Jesus won't do, don't accuse God of it, Jesus is the perfect example and image of the invincible God so we can know God in Jesus and not see God as a destroyer

iamteegee:
Your decision is what brought about your response not God behind it

dollypi:
He said it, directly, that he is responsible for evil. Full stop.

Don't contort things to fit your preferred interpretation.

Baba said Himself, "I create disaster, I am the one who does these things".

But you, a mere mortal, claims to know more than his God.


Study the intent that brought about the writings? They were in captivity, why? Many of them stopped worshipping God, they started serving other gods, had forgotten the God that has been with them, so they going into captivity by their enemies was to bring them into repentance and if you read further and nor just pick one verse and run with, you will have a better understanding

Arda1000:
so what’s their decision that made them disabled?
What about babies that never got to see the light of the day what’s their decisions?

iamteegee:
If you truly read the article to understand, I clearly wrote about the crisis of the fallen world, it was more like that man was was born with a disability and the disciples asked Jesus who sinned, was it his parents or him and Jesus said no one sinned, however it will be for the glory of God and he was healed and restored , we live in a fallen world Sis but God is here to help the people through you (if you are a believer) and me

Arda1000:
crises of fallen world?
Who fall the world?
If your god is omnipresent and omnipotent why would his world fall?
If his a perfect god why would he create something that can fall?
If god healed and restored what he created that means your god is not perfect?
How is god helping millions that are dying?
How is god helping children that are dying in war torn countries and those dying from starvations and malnutritions?

iamteegee:
It is obvious you are not a christian or if you are a christian then christian with hurt and someone that needs answers.

When God made the earth in Genesis 1, everything He made was good and perfect, but God didn't make robots, He made us with freewill, so you can see how loving He is and by His Spirit produce good results, He also gave man dominion over the earth and He was done with creation, don't forget He has left dominion into our hands, it is just like an adult builds a house and his child is growing there, there are things in the house that might not be harmful for an adult used with wisdom like fire, knife then the parent tells the child not to play with the electric socket, one day the parents went out and the child touched the electric socket and it changes the child's life, is electric bad for an adult? Same way God told them not to eat of the fruit of good and evil so what's happening in the world today won't happen, no one has any knowledge to do evil nor good just above it but those children decided and they ate it hence the fallen world,(man's consequences) it is only an irresponsible person blames God for the actions of men, the earth He as given to us.

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For God to save the race from the wickedness man's consequences of disobedience unleashed into the world, flesh rules the earth even tho they possessed, they still needs human body( flesh) to do that, God became flesh and His name is Jesus to destroy the work of darkness, and give life to who believes Him, now if you or the world accept Him as Lord and savior and filled with His Spirit, understands His word , no one will kill the other, steal , start war etc

God is merciful and loving to still make provisions for you and myself. Every man should take responsibility for his or her actions. You are the one God has put on earth to rule, so if you elect bad people we all reap the reward of it in hunger , war , corruption etc

Arda1000:
stop the long epistle of gibberish.
If god gave dominion to humans over all the earth why do we have disasters that happen on their own?
Some of them kill millions and we can do nothing about them.
You always try to blame everything on humans while it was your god who claims he had every power.
We are powerless in many aspects if we had the power we would change a lot of things so stop blaming us.
Am agnostic…. If there’s a god,that god is definitely not the Bible god,nothing on the universe is perfect so the chances of the Bible god being the creator of the universe is zero.
Every claim in the Bible about creation is false.

iamteegee:
When you look at geology, I studied geology there are things that causes the natural disasters sometimes by humans exploration, sometimes caused by movements, don't have all the time to teach that but like I said the consequences of the fall of man causes by man changed the whole format of the earth, God will create a new earth and heaven and our faith in God that became flesh (Jesus) is the key to eternal life and like I said earlier if everyone accepts the life of Christ there won't be hunger( which was caused by men, when some men decided to take what belongs to everyone, war is caused by greedy,selfish people who gain alot personally from war.yoi need understand that even tho God's sovereign, He does not force Himself because He has given this world to us, we by His wisdom can make this world a better place but how will we be better when we can't accept responsibility and make change.

Going by your agnostic view, let me ask some questions "where did intelligence , and order come from a purposeless universe ? "Why are you okay risking eternity on uncertainty ?" Is it consistent to doubt God but trust but trust human reasoning that is limited and flawed?"

iamteegee:
...So when people say, “God used a flood to punish that nation ,” we must say No!, not according to His covenant. If He said, “Never again,” then He meant it ..

Arda1000:
if you know a thing about geology you wouldn’t even be a Bible believer cause the study of geology refutes Bible creation stories in many ways,geology refutes the claim that water submerged the earth for 40 days and nights,because water comes from atmospheres and the oceans,and there’s simply no amount of water in the earth.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is neenee.
Do you real eyes that you are saying that Dangote cannot over flood your vehicle with fuel simply because your normal capacity is 70litres?

Arda1000:
if you know a thing about geology you wouldn’t even be a Bible believer cause the study of geology refutes Bible creation stories in many ways,geology refutes the claim that water submerged the earth for 40 days and nights,because water comes from atmospheres and the oceans,and there’s simply no amount of water in the earth’s atmosphere or ocean that move the sea level beyond 1 percent,yea many area can experience flooding but the whole earth wouldn’t be submerged.
I can point to many examples,we know the rainbow isn’t a sign of any god from geology I can go on and on.
Most natural disasters aren’t man made,it’s natural made by many factors from the earth’s core.

Key to eternal life 🤣.
See you are not the first to preach the Christian Bible stories,from the time of your ancestors till date that you preach it,have you seen one single soul that got eternal life?
Just give me a single person who have not died because they preach the Bible myths.

About my agnostic views.
They are many things that I know I neither have the answers or any explanations to give hence why am agnostic.
Am ignorant of them and won’t fool myself by claiming I know,which is why the burden of proofs falls on you to proof your claims without reasonable doubt.
Worse is your claims comes from a book written by semiliterate herdsmen who heard the stories from other people and wrote the stories years after the acclaimed events took place.
That’s really pathetic

Dtruthspeaker:
He clearly Said "the world" and not the "nation".

iamteegee:
If God removed all disasters now, He would also have to remove every other source of pain—including human choices. Would you be okay with a world where free will doesn’t exist?”




God doesn’t enjoy pain. But He allows human freedom and a creation that still groans—for now—until the full redemption in Christ is revealed. That’s why Jesus came: not to control everything, but to redeem everyone.

Arda1000:
which god?