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Steep:
No, it is not done that way. You are the one who raised the argument, hence must clarify terms so that others can respond.
If you are really honest bookmark.
Set the foundation
What is the Trinity? And in addition also what does it mean to God?

you've asked this question like 3 times.
Bookmark please answer

Boomark:
Those who are scared and afraid are not allowed.

The purpose of the challenge is to expose people who have nothing to offer and lie like this.

Lol but you've refused to define the Trinity sef

Boomark:
So you guys have nothing to worry about since I am at disadvantage. Unless trinitarian are already so scared.
ChatGPT will help us to point people who talk out of point like you and still insist they are on point. Why not take up the challenge and use all the scripture and implications you have to prove me wrong.

What I'm sensing already hear from you people is a great Fear.

I am not afraid. My interest is to prove that everything you have been believing is a lie and now you are scared.

what do you call yourself?
Are you a unitarnarian?

Boomark:
You people are already so afraid.

It will not judge anything spiritual.

It will point out those talking out of point as they made in their claim.

For example.
If you claim that Jesus has 12 disciples and use bible verses of where David killed Goliath as back up. It will tell you that you are talking out of point.

All eyes will see it and the screenshot of everything will be posted.

Why are you people so afraid?

nobody is afraid bro
Do the needful give us your definition of trinity

Image123:
Yeah long time, hope you've been good?
The Christian walk is mainly faith based not arguments based, so i don't see how winning an argument proves anything in Christianity. Even guilty murderers can win arguments with a good lawyer, this doesn't establish truth by any means.
Aside that, people who believe in trinity believe that God is one, and He is over all, so why should they be expected to rebut what they believe? Trinity is believed to be a mystery, don't sweat it. Cheers

Lol he will sweat it

Qasim6:
Seems you believe

-Jesus is God in some way
-The Father is God
-Jesus a God also have a God which is the father
And They both deserve to be worshipped

Or am I mistaken?

I believe in Trinity!
If you need exemplifications then I will gladly give you.

For now, I believe there are three beings that fit the epistemological and ontological definition of the concept called "God". This three agree in unison and are one. Thus, we have one God but three distinct beings. In identity, they are different while in essence they are one!

Chibuezem:
nobody is afraid bro
Do the needful give us your definition of trinity

It's a waste of time, he won't give you because any definition will only widen his holey arguments!

He just wants to play it safe, engage with them(image123 & fxmasters), declare himself victorious then appease his blustery ego😂 .

Chibuezem:
Lol but you've refused to define the Trinity sef

It has no definition, that's why it is called a mystery.

if anybody can, it wont be.

they just say there are three distinct persons in one GOD, as if it makes sense.

while the Tanakh presents GOD as the whole. as a unit, the Christians proceeded to divide God into three.
why did they stop at three?

god is one whole, indivisible entity, omni present and potent and science......

God is not a thing, it is everything.

Gabrielshow24:
I believe in Trinity!
If you need exemplifications then I will gladly give you.

For now, I believe there are three beings that fit the epistemological and ontological definition of the concept called "God". This three agree in unison and are one. Thus, we have one God but three distinct beings. In identity, they are different while in essence they are one!

All these sound like let's eat our cake and have it!
Is there hierarchy in this trinity?

This is how I define God
A self sufficient being that does not depend on anything or anyone but all depend on him.

How do you define God?

What was the fate of Jesus and the other member of trinity when Jesus a member was making the statement of John 17:3?
Are they also true Gods or are they not?

Qasim6:
All these sound like let's eat our cake and have it!
Is there hierarchy in this trinity?

This is how I define God
A self sufficient being that does not depend on anything or anyone but all depend on him.

How do you define God?

What was the faith of Jesus and the other member of trinity when Jesus a member was making the statement of John 17:3?
Are they also true Gods or are they not?

Well stated, your boundary or definition still encapsulates Jesus, as all depend on him for Eternal life, John 10:28.

Nothing happened to the others, it's not about strife. They are in unison. Thus, they glorify the other. Also, the context was a physical one!

Chibuezem:
nobody is afraid bro
Do the needful give us your definition of trinity

I don't need to define it. I only destroy any definition you give to it with the heip of the only true God and my lord Jesus Christ.

Since you all were depending on me and according me the great honour to define your trinity for you. I defined it for Steep here and he has fled since then.

https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood#136245637

Watch the challenge. I'm about to destroy another definition of trinity with God's word again.

Round 2 Result is out

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123#136306032

Trinity Is gone.

Chibuezem:
Lol but you've refused to define the Trinity sef

Now that I have defined it for you as 666 in that link, you can now flee as usual.

Those who are deluded cannot see far. The truth has been hidden from them for rejecting God and the words of Jesus Christ. They only get revelation from satan.

Oya you can now disappear or you answer my question about what Jesus said which all of you have been dodging.

Don't rejoice whenever you feel I have been trapped. I am standing on a strong tower which is the word of God. You will end up being frustrated like Gabrielshow24 and all trinitarians.

Do not be deceived.

I am Bookmark of God

Chibuezem:
You should bring your G. O. too it will be easy tobreak this bondage of falsehood you've fallen into. We need to attack the source.

You are already seeing a G.O.

What can I do for you? I don't want people that dodge questions like you. So get me a G. O.

You have never imagined the reason you are so scared to answer my question? I am standing on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.

I am G. O Boomark of God

Boomark:
Trinity can be described as 666 of the antichrist. They are the same number appearing 3 times. It is used and for those who are in great opposition to the will of God and to Jesus Christ.


This should +10 marks for me already.

😂😂😂Wonders shall never cease.

Boomark:
You are already seeing a G.O.

What can I do for you? I don't want people that dodge questions like you. So get me a G. O.

You have never imagined the reason you are so scared to answer my question? I am standing on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.

I am G. O Boomark of God

Well My G. O Is Jesus Christ. See how you are living in falsehood. Show me where General overseer is in the Bible 🤣🤣🤣

Boomark:
Now that I have defined it for you as 666 in that link, you can now flee as usual.

Those who are deluded cannot see far. The truth has been hidden from them for rejecting God and the words of Jesus Christ. They only get revelation from satan.

Oya you can now disappear or you answer my question about what Jesus said which all of you have been dodging.

Don't rejoice whenever you feel I have been trapped. I am standing on a strong tower which is the word of God. You will end up being frustrated like Gabrielshow24 and all trinitarians.

Do not be deceived.

I am Bookmark of God

I've not seen your definition.

Gabrielshow24:
It's a waste of time, he won't give you because any definition will only widen his holey arguments!

He just wants to play it safe, engage with them(image123 & fxmasters), declare himself victorious then appease his blustery ego😂 .

I am aware lol but it's fun engaging with him. I wake up and see my mentions loaded thanks bookmark

Chibuezem:
Well My G. O Is Jesus Christ. See how you are living in falsehood. Show me where General overseer is in the Bible 🤣🤣🤣

No. Show me boomark in the bible first.


Its like these are the kind of things you like.

You don't like discussing anything or answering questions from the bible.

Chibuezem:
I've not seen your definition.

Don't worry about seeing it because you have never been seeing anything before now. Even things that are around you you cannot see.

Boomark:
Round 2 Result is out

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123#136306032

Trinity Is gone.

My dear, i will advice you to read and learn instead of this your obsession with AI results. AI works with algorithm/data fed to it, not spirit and truth.

Emusan

You went against the rule and warning that why you post was removed. This place is meant for discussion


Do you want me to be a spectator or add my own point?

Anyways, since you're using AI, I love that but with all honesty, can you copy any version of the Holy Scripture of Colossians 1:16-18 into your AI and ask it for explanation of it?

Read and understand before you say anything. AI doesn't teach or explain scriptures for us. Go and read the instructions given to it. They are the only things it can do.

If you want to join, you can discuss with image123 and post during his turn. Use the format we are using to make your presentation.

If you like you can use AI to prepare your Claim. I boomark of God will still destroy your claim. So you will know that it is not about AI but the truth in the bible.

Emusan


I just read through the Colossians 1:16-18 you posted. I don't need AI to understand it. You are free to make a claim on it so I can bless it with eternal destruction.

Remember to connect to to your trinity.

Good luck.

Boomark:
Don't worry about seeing it because you have never been seeing anything before now. Even things that are around you you cannot see.

lol

Boomark:
No. Show me boomark in the bible first.


Its like these are the kind of things you like.

You don't like discussing anything or answering questions from the bible.

bookmark no dey Bible

Boomark:
FxMasterz

Good evening bro.

What I meant is that you can discuss with image123 here incase you have something to discuss with respect to trinity. You will talk when you can post it during his turn. You have seen how we make our presentation. I am not answering any question.

Just make claim to what you believe in with your key verses and I will present a rebuttal.

No vex for the removal of your post. It was part of the rule.

Good evening my brother.

Can you create a thread for you and I to discuss this, or would you like to finish off with Image123 first?

FxMasterz:
Good evening my brother.

Can you create a thread for you and I to discuss this, or would you like to finish off with Image123 first?

Good evening bro

Let me finish with him first.

Boomark:
Good evening bro

Let me finish with him first.

Alright brother.

Freeigboho

I want to deal with you and your Nicea belief. So that you know that I dealt with your Nicea belief while still younger than those who formed it for you.

This will show you that the Ai knows what it is doing. We will use it to do the neutral test you are asking for.

So this here was used to support trinity but I am opposing it by saying it is not talking about the Holy spirit but Jesus Christ. Go and gather your Nicea materials and prove that it is talking about the Holy spirit. You will see how we make claim

2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrV
[17] Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, freedom is also there.

I am doing this so you know I am putting myself at a disadvantage. But I will disagree with this translation and prove to you that it is a wrong interpretation.

So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.

I will make claims that the passage is not talking about Holy spirit but Jesus Christ and also present my verses.

We will not use topic. So posted your preferred scripture first and start making your claim under it. If we are to use to topic it will be: is 2 Corinthians 3:17 talking about Jesus Christ or the Holy spirit.

But we are not using topic so don't start saying it sway AI. I don't even know where it will sway this time. It will to your side if you present solid claim and key verses without talking out of point. So if I win don't think it is magic. The truth stands.

Below are the rules. Check if there is anything you want us to edit in the rules. We will make our presentation before 6pm tomorrow. After this we will start our normal challenge. I will check results and you will also do it with your own AI. I will post video here and will also bring your own video. Or you confirm if what I presented is the same with yours.

Gabrielshow24 you can also try in case you are interested so you stop talking and laughing too much.

Rule for the participants

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rules for you ChatGPT

Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only.

Rule 2: You must not be partial.

Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge.



MR F CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here]


MR B CLAIM:
[Paste their full message here]

✅ Instructions:
Please analyze both claim according to all the rules and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?

Boomark:
Freeigboho

I want to deal with you and your Nicea belief. So that you know that I dealt with your Nicea belief while still younger than those who formed it for you.

This will show you that the Ai knows what it is doing. We will use it to do the neutral test you are asking for.

So this here was used to support trinity but I am opposing it by saying it is not talking about the Holy spirit but Jesus Christ. Go and gather your Nicea materials and prove that it is talking about the Holy spirit. You will see how we make claim

2 Corinthians 3:17 NIrV
[17] Now the Lord is the Holy Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, freedom is also there.

I am doing this so you know I am putting myself at a disadvantage. But I will disagree with this translation and prove to you that it is a wrong interpretation.

So what you will do is to make a claim that passage is talking about the Holy spirit. If you know anyhow you want to do your claim do it so you don't blame me if you fail. As usual, you have to present key verses to support your claim.

I will make claims that the passage is not talking about Holy spirit but Jesus Christ and also present my verses.

We will not use topic. So posted your preferred scripture first and start making your claim under it. If we are to use to topic it will be: is 2 Corinthians 3:17 talking about Jesus Christ or the Holy spirit.

But we are not using topic so don't start saying it sway AI. I don't even know where it will sway this time. It will to your side if you present solid claim and key verses without talking out of point. So if I win don't think it is magic. The truth stands.

Below are the rules. Check if there is anything you want us to edit in the rules. We will make our presentation before 6pm tomorrow. After this we will start our normal challenge. I will check results and you will also do it with your own AI. I will post video here and will also bring your own video. Or you confirm if what I presented is the same with yours.

Gabrielshow24 you can also try in case you are interested so you stop talking and laughing too much.

Rule for the participants

Rule 1: The Bible Alone
Only the Bible will be used as authority. Each person must prove their claim with scripture. No assuming or borrowing anything from science, commentaries, traditions, creeds, etc.

Rule 2: Context Always
Verses must be explained in their immediate and full context. Never isolate a verse to prove a point.

Rules for you ChatGPT

Rule 1: You must strictly analyse and make judgement based on claim and key verses presented only.

Rule 2: You must not be partial.

Rule 3: You must state who won the challenge.



MR F CLAIM:
[Paste your full message here]


MR B CLAIM:
[Paste their full message here]

✅ Instructions:
Please analyze both claim according to all the rules and score this round based on:

1. Who used scripture more clearly and accurately?

2. Did either person use scripture out of context?

3. Did either side prove or avoid the point?

4. Who followed the challenge rules more closely which is to focus on the scripture alone?

5. Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone?

Of course but you must understand that I require from your hand, Academic standard. It will be a debate with clear definitions of terms and standards. You will define what you understand God to be, your conceptualization of God—Be it compositional😂. You will define trinity. You will define what you perceive the spirit to be, is it to you the same as God or His he inherently one? You will define terms such as Lord, LORD, LORD GOD—are they titles or do they fit just one person?👀

I will also give my own standards and definitions; we will use scripture and logic. We will take all verses of the bible in to questioning, we will consult the original hebrews and Greek versions if need be to get the "proper" context. We will give the scoring to someone neutral to keep tabs of. Or we can simply challenge the readers to verify and take it up? This way we make the markings/scorings open-source—Any one can verify it.

No misleading subtopics or topics. Sarcasm and humor will be allowed. If you want to debate me, you know the price😁!

But I guess, you are too chicken to take it up because you are aware that I will decimate your arguments in the same way I pointed out foundational flaws in your beliefs. Once again, God is not compositional 😂!