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wowcatty:
Ijebu war with the British was the only major war in west Africa, though Ijebu didn’t expect it and were not prepared for it.

This is completely and utterly false. The British fought the Ashanti 4 good times in major wars,the Ashanti even defeated the British in one of the wars,the other was the Benin expedition, which is on the same scale as the ijebu WAR, the British fought Sokoto and Kano. But the major war which white officers were killed was the ekumeku war fought by the anioma

GothamCities:
Who said white men must be killed? Is it by force that a white man must die before it becomes a war?

That counts for real WAR, wars that drew British blood not just wars that drew fellow blacks blood.

okpouman:
That counts for real WAR, wars that drew British blood not just wars that drew fellow blacks blood.

You didn't see my screenshot, did you? See the screenshot below:

And for your information, bloodshed is not a must before a conflict can be called a war. Go check your dictionary.

gregyboy:
No kingdom dead or alive could invade benin in the Niger coast do not be sentimental,.. They invaded in the late 1800 when benin wss occupied with their own civil war and punitive wars with other vassal state, benin-akure happend around this time, probably the esan reported to benin they gsve them the little assistance they could give them because benins were occupied in the 1800, the nupe didn't succeed to penetrate esan, that is to tell you how the benin empire was so strong, i don't know why the edo north failed to drive them, as kingdoms drove far way from the benins they become weaker, the benin britsh war happened in the 1897 same year the esan-nupe war, if the benins had defeated the britsh the Nupe invasion of edo north would have been reversed quickly, the entire north would not dare invade benin, benin was at war in many places at thesame time even when the britsh invasion happened benin was at war in akure, and in agbor and other places

The Nupe dealt severely with the esan though,we can't tell what would have happened if they got to Benin cos they never did.so it remains in the realm of speculation

okpouman:
The Nupe dealt severely with the esan though,we can't tell what would have happened if they got to Benin cos they never did.so it remains in the realm of speculation

They dealt with Esan and yet they couldn't keep it or capture it what do you then me by the word dealt, invasion is free capturing is the goal

gregyboy:
They dealt with Esan and yet they couldn't keep it or capture it what do you then me by the word dealt, invasion is free capturing is the goal

According to esan historians ,a lot of their communities were destroyed, a lot of their people killed,captured and sold to SLAVERY, that's what I mean by dealt

Bullshit!

Ijebu were the ones who truly fought with the British from 1851 to 1893. The rest of you were just disagreements over the Ufe/Ife loots you were keeping for them.

okpouman:
This is completely and utterly false. The British fought the Ashanti 4 good times in major wars,the Ashanti even defeated the British in one of the wars,the other was the Benin expedition, which is on the same scale as the ijebu WAR, the British fought Sokoto and Kano. But the major war which white officers were killed was the ekumeku war fought by the anioma

wowcatty:
Bullshit!

Ijebu were the ones who truly fought with the British from 1851 to 1893. The rest of you were just disagreements over the Ufe/Ife loots you were keeping for them.

You guys are reknown for delusion.
Leaving in imagination and false pretenses.

Ijebu war that lasted just ,3 days.

Lool

Give me a break pls

okpouman:
I did not say the war was fought by non igbo,I say I was fought by the anioma who are not completely Igbo,they have Benin,IGALA and Yoruba elements embedded in them,who all participated in the war ,it was not a war by mainstream igbo

oga which Benin in Anioma?
As for Igala they have just one local government which is really irrelevant,same with the Yoruba who are even recent migrants,during the war it was fought by Igbo people there wasn’t even Anioma then,the location of the war and the people who fought the war isn’t even an argument unless you just want to be ignorant

Arda1000:
oga which Benin in Anioma?
As for Igala they have just one local government which is really irrelevant,same with the Yoruba who are even recent migrants,during the war it was fought by Igbo people there wasn’t even Anioma then,the location of the war and the people who fought the war isn’t even an argument unless you just want to be ignorant

The Yoruba- olukumi are one of the ancient indigenes in the anioma domain,BENIN elements are a core of anioma identity.

Infact the Igbo are a minority mainly at igbuzor

When I say anioma,I mean the demography and domain of the people of delta north.

The mainstream Igbo did not fight the British, except the aro who were defeated in 3 days

If you’re not hallucinating, you won’t call a war that lasted for 42 years, hundreds of villages and thousands of lives, “3 days”. At least we know why your lords removed history from schools, the truth hunts you for your parts as British soldiers in attacking innocent natives for rewards that you haven’t enjoyed and will never enjoy in peace. The history will never be removed from the people.

okpouman:
You guys are reknown for delusion.
Leaving in imagination and false pretenses.

Ijebu war that lasted just ,3 days.

Lool

Give me a break pls

ycat:
If you’re not hallucinating, you won’t call a war that lasted for 42 years, hundreds of villages and thousands of lives, “3 days”. At least we know why your lords removed history from schools, the truth hunts you for your parts as British soldiers in attacking innocent natives for rewards that you haven’t enjoyed and will never enjoy in peace. The history will never be removed from the people.

42 years, hahaha please read history of the Yorubas by Samuel Johnson. Everything is there.

okpouman:
According to esan historians ,a lot of their communities were destroyed, a lot of their people killed,captured and sold to SLAVERY, that's what I mean by dealt

True because it was an invasion, a surprised attack, caught people unaware in their farms, esan are small community not even as big as edo north in today map and they could wade them off, shows the Nupe were not so mighty that benin would have even crippled them back to their hometown and sold all of them as slaves if they were not so occupied, the edo north who lost to them probably were the ones who may have invited them bcus their neighbors overthere are Muslims too, meaning the Nupe succeeded in South West North Central and lost to the edos, the edos were a mighty force no one in Nigeria would have dared

okpouman:
42 years, hahaha please read history of the Yorubas by Samuel Johnson. Everything is there.

Nnm

okpouman:
The anioma are not mainstream Igbo there are Edo and igala elements even Yoruba element within their ranks

Let's not forget they were under the benin empire

okpouman:
Partially true but the Benin were not in control of all Nigeria ,they were not even in control of Edo state as it is today,you people forget that the Nupe under Fulani leadership invaded up to esan land,is it the British whom the Nupe feared that would now be afraid of BENIN?

Benin controlled the full southern Nigeria talking of the east, west and south... Tho sre influence are minimum in some areas but empire influence stretch to this area, that's why the European or the britsh didn't go all out invading different coastal community until they were sure they had the weapon that would bring them that advantage

gregyboy:
Benin controlled the full southern Nigeria talking of the east, west and south... Tho sre influence are minimum in some areas but empire influence stretch to this area, that's why the European or the britsh didn't go all out invading different coastal community until they were sure they had the weapon that would bring them that advantage

Not true,Benin influence wasn't felt in the Ibibio ,efiks areas,and inland Western yorubaland,it was also minimal in the central and northern igboland,Benin influence was mostly around the coast but not up to efik coast and Dahomey ( in later years)

okpouman:
They didn't invade any Nigerian state,except the very coastal states like LAGOS before the invention of maxim guns not only BENIN

Because of the fear of the benin empire even when lagos was invaded lagos continued her activities with the benins, like they were not in the britsh control, not until benin was brought down that lagos came fully under their control and they stopped lagos from paying homage to benin.... The Niger coast was one of the most densely populated African areas in the past, so daring to attack it was failure coupled with the fact that was an empire that could crush them, they only tried Invading areas that they knew could easily be won

gregyboy:
True because it was an invasion, a surprised attack, caught people unaware in their farms, esan are small community not even as big as edo north in today map and they could wade them off, shows the Nupe were not so mighty that benin would have even crippled them back to their hometown and sold all of them as slaves if they were not so occupied, the edo north who lost to them probably were the ones who may have invited them bcus their neighbors overthere are Muslims too, meaning the Nupe succeeded in South West North Central and lost to the edos, the edos were a mighty force no one in Nigeria would have dared

The Edo north became Muslim because of the invasion of the Nupes,they converted the chiefs to Islam who in turn forcefully converted their people to Islam,it didn't work in Akoko-edo because the Akoko-edo were kind of ungovernable because they dwelled on hills

okpouman:
Not true,Benin influence wasn't felt in the Ibibio ,efiks areas,and inland Western yorubaland,it was also minimal in the central and northern igboland,Benin influence was mostly around the coast but not up to efik coast and Dahomey ( in later years)

When you mean influence what do you mean,hope you’re not talking about a direct cultural influence ?

They are several types of influence direct and indirect benin influence where indirect to those areas the britsh didnt culturally influence all areas or fought with all tribes hope you’re aware

Shaka Zulu is fictional..
Even enlightened south Africans, will tell you that.


The most dreaded resistance ever faced, happened in the pre-amalgamated area of west Africa

okpouman:
Not true,Benin influence wasn't felt in the Ibibio ,efiks areas,and inland Western yorubaland,it was also minimal in the central and northern igboland,Benin influence was mostly around the coast but not up to efik coast and Dahomey ( in later years)

I doubt that

gr8ofnnetwork:
They are still under the same rulership till tomorrow. A country whose 80% land (over 1.22million KM²) is owned by the Muzumgus. 80-90% of their wealth, resources, politics, economy is controlled by the same people they claimed to have "resisted". Nigeria may be challenging but the fact that I have a nation I call my own, I have some pieces of land to my name, resources are can be proud of made be feel fulfilled.
Just checking TikTok you will weep for those black SA people. Reasons they resort to Xenoph

Exactly, my brother.

Lionessza6:
Why didn't you attack Kenya?

That's exactly the same reasons the white people have to keep black SA people on their sights

Anyways.. white power doesn't attack nor keep guard of those they can easily put under their control. The Middle East is a good example...they will never give them the same space to breathe as Africa...they constantly have to bomb or disrupt them and keep the region in turmoil because they know if they are left alone they'll surely make them pay ; they have the resources and the fighting spirit to come for Europe .

After the Zulus defeated the British in the battle of Isandlwane ...that's when the British knew they wouldn't be able to rule "SA "from Europe like the other African countries ,they had to establish not a colony but a settler colony with a full army and government in what became South Africa. Kenya was also a partial settler colony.

Again, the oldest liberation party in Africa is the ANC . It just so happens to be South African, and the reason why white people had to have nuclear weapons to keep the black people down in South Africa till 1994.

Again....white power can never spend so much money ,energy or power on a people they don't care about nor have fear for .

South Africa was the first country they invited among other Africans when they started the G20 nations in 1999....do you think it's because they like the black SA government? Nope! They want to have them where they can watch them closely . Keep your enemies closer they say .South Africa was recently invited as guests in the G7 gathering in Canada even with all the hate from Tan-trump...the sheer audacity to go after Israel against the wishes of America once again put black SA on the sights of White supremacist who are now once more charging at the very SA with threats of sanctions and all.

And lastly ,those who are resisting the dominance of the West and the dollar: BRICS which Africans people did they invite first to join them in their fight ?

Softmirror that's for you too

Your long epistle is hollow. Africa's current challenges stem from within the continent and partly from the legacy of colonialism. Yes, the colonial powers inflicted deep wounds in the past, but we must recognise that we are now the architects of our own misfortunes. Until we fully accept this fact, true liberation will remain elusive.

Look at nations like Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, the UAE, KSA, Brazil, and Qatar, all of which experienced colonialisation like us, but have forged paths that surpass those of many sub-Saharan African countries. It's time we acknowledge this reality and strive for meaningful change. If the Whites are still messing us up, it is because we gave them the power to do so. Finally, the only way to earn respect is to succeed as a people and not because we resisted colonialism about 150 years ago.

T9ksy:
What facts do you want me to debunk your gibberish, with? Was there any "truth" in your previous post where you claimed,........... " I think the only place there is no record of any skemishes against the colonialist is Yoruba land".  
That wasn't true, was it? The sad thing is, I believe you know this yet, you still went out there and write something obviously fallacious and easily debunkable, about yorubas but your cultural propensity to gaslight is too overwhelming for you.

If that statement was to have come from a yoruba man about igbos, you will be the types to shout, "igbophobia",

T9ksy:
What facts do you want me to debunk your gibberish, with? Was there any "truth" in your previous post where you claimed,........... " I think the only place there is no record of any skemishes against the colonialist is Yoruba land".  
That wasn't true, was it? The sad thing is, I believe you know this yet, you still went out there and write something obviously fallacious and easily debunkable, about yorubas but your cultural propensity to gaslight is too overwhelming for you.

If that statement was to have come from a yoruba man about igbos, you will be the types to shout, "igbophobia",

The Yorubas were predominantly engaged in a civil war with themselves. This was what the British took advantage of. Remember the Dosumu problem and the bombardment of Lagos. Do you know the history behind the name "Agidingbi" in Ikeja Lagos? Try and read your own history.

Yes the Oyo empire once had a wide influence and reach but it was on a steady decline at about the time the colonialist came. It was the collapsing influence of the central Oyo empire that led to the internal revolt among the annexed autonomous chiefdoms. Infact the coming of the whiteman prevented or discouraged the overrunning of Yorubaland by the Agojes "the female warriors from Dahomey". Remember Dahomey had already liberated itself from Oyo and was on the raise in might and bounds. It's eyes was set on Oyo, their former Overlords but then, the colonialists came.


Abeg try dey read history, e get why? People wey commot am for curriculum get agenda and from the look of things, it seems they have succeed with you.

adekunle0000:
The Yorubas were predominantly engaged in a civil war with themselves. This was what the British took advantage of. Remember the Dosumu problem and the bombardment of Lagos. Do you know the history behind the name "Agidingbi" in Ikeja Lagos? Try and read your own history.

Yes the Oyo empire once had a wide influence and reach but it was on a steady decline at about the time the colonialist came. It was the collapsing influence of the central Oyo empire that led to the internal revolt among the annexed autonomous chiefdoms. Infact the coming of the whiteman prevented or discouraged the overrunning of Yorubaland by the Agojes "the female warriors from Dahomey". Remember Dahomey had already liberated itself from Oyo and was on the raise in might and bounds. It's eyes was set on Oyo, their former Overlords but then, the colonialists came.


Abeg try dey read history, e get why? People wey commot am for curriculum get agenda and from the look of things, it seems they have succeed with you.

The oyo was not an empire but a kingdom

gr8ofnnetwork:
At least, part of your Lamentations has been cured today. I am happy to help you. Again, God bless all the Muzumgus that kept South Africa going. When they finally leaves, we shall handover SA to AU to manage because the blacks (apart from Malema and co) can't manage themselves

The Whites will eventually leave most provinces for them and all move to Cape town where they will continue to maintain their first world structures. Whites aren't going anywhere.