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Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 2:32pm On Aug 08, 2025
She was just a lowly Virgin that the Most High God chose to bring about a fullfilment of prophecy of a coming Messiah. How did she move from being the mother of Jesus to being an object of Veneration by the Catholics beats me.
I welcome contributions from my Catholic guys here in this section. In the meantime, I'll go and do a research of mine on this controversial thread.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 3:28pm On Aug 08, 2025
AngelahFlo:
She was just a lowly Virgin that the Most High God chose to bring about a fullfilment of prophecy of a coming Messiah. How did she move from being the mother of Jesus to being an object of Veneration by the Catholics beats me.
I welcome contributions from my Catholic guys here in this section. In the meantime, I'll go and do a research of mine on this controversial thread.
Catholics is the father of what you know as Christianity today, both of them movements designed particularly for the manipulation and mining of Non-Israelites by Non-Israelites. undecided
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 5:25pm On Aug 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Catholics is the father of what you know as Christianity today, both of them movements designed particularly for the manipulation and mining of Non-Israelites by Non-Israelites. undecided
True they helped shaped Christianity as a religion but not as Jesus taught it and showed to his disciples . True Christianity is a lifestyle. I'm still coming to make my contribution to the above mentioned thread. We're delving into why Mary is venerated by the Catholics.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Aug 08, 2025
AngelahFlo:
✓ True they helped shaped Christianity as a religion
✓but not as Jesus taught it and showed to his disciples . True Christianity is a lifestyle. I'm still coming to make my contribution to the above mentioned thread. We're delving into why Mary is venerated by the Catholics.
Wrong! They did not help. Rather, the foundation of what you know as Christianity today is Catholicism. undecided

Both religions are in no way connected to Jesus Christ of Israel whose movement was designated only for those who are of the blood of Jacob and looking to abandon the meaningless of religion, both previous and recent. undecided
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 6:21pm On Aug 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Wrong! They did not help. Rather, the foundation of what you know as Christianity today is Catholicism. undecided

Both religions are in no way connected to Jesus Christ of Israel whose movement was designated only for those who are of the blood of Jacob and looking to abandon the meaningless of religion, both previous and recent. undecided
In your view what form of religion do the Protestant and the other denominations practice.
Catholicism and True Christianity ain't the same
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:25pm On Aug 08, 2025
AngelahFlo:
✓ In your view what form of religion do the Protestant and the other denominations practice.
✓ Catholicism and True Christianity ain't the same
Christianity is a religion, ain't it? 🥱🥱🥱

2. Catholicism is the father of Christianity. With over 45,000 different denominations, each professing to be the true form of Christianity, what are we to do? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by sonmvayina(m): 6:41pm On Aug 08, 2025
Mary is inanna, she is the queen of heaven. She is the goddess of love, war and death.
She is also Lucifer. She is the light bearer, since her beloved son is the light.

All the prayers the Catholics pray to Mary are all ancient prayers to inanna.

She is the one who appeared to three children in Fatima in Portugal, with three secrets.

She is about to dance.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Gabrielshow24: 7:22pm On Aug 08, 2025
sonmvayina:
Mary is inanna, she is the queen of heaven. She is the goddess of love, war and death.
She is also Lucifer. She is the light bearer, since her beloved son is the light.

All the prayers the Catholics pray to Mary are all ancient prayers to inanna.

She is the one who appeared to three children in Fatima in Portugal, with three secrets.

She is about to dance.
Talk is cheap 😂,bring out evidence!

We are all aware of the "miracle of the sun". Pls, bring out how you came to an objective conclusion that Mary "was" ...or "is" "Ina...".

Until then, keep your hearsays to yourself 🤨.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Gabrielshow24: 7:25pm On Aug 08, 2025
The history of "why she is venerated" is online—it's rather due to personal revelation on the part of a certain pope. It's not an objective stance on Christendom to do so. Infact, it's highly boycotted save only in catholicism.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 8:32pm On Aug 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Christianity is a religion, ain't it? 🥱🥱🥱

2. Catholicism is the father of Christianity. With over 45,000 different denominations, each professing to be the true form of Christianity, what are we to do? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
What's your view on the worship of Mary by the Catholics?
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 8:36pm On Aug 08, 2025
AngelahFlo:
➜What's your view on the worship of Mary by the Catholics?
It is at the foundation of Christianity, a religion that boasts of over 46,000 different idols of its own. undecided
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 8:48pm On Aug 08, 2025
Ain't it amazing
Simply amazing to ascribe to a mortal; godlike status?

Ain't it amazing that you'll confer on this mortal creature the person of teeth Holy Spirit and include her in the Trinity when the Bible states expressly that there is one mediator between God and men - Jesus Christ.
I could go on and on but it's clear to me.
You see when you reduce scriptural truths to a well prepared delusional marsh up this is what you get.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 8:52pm On Aug 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
It is at the foundation of Christianity, a religion that boasts of over 46,000 different idols of its own. undecided
You mean to say it's at the heart of Catholicism which as you claim is the Father of Christianity?
If yeah then you ain't far from the truth. So what should we do. Should we who are enlightened keep silent while they're being led astray.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie:
AngelahFlo:
➜You mean to say it's at the heart of Catholicism which as you claim is the Father of Christianity? If yeah then you ain't far from the truth. So what should we do. Should we who are enlightened keep silent while they're being led astray.
Whatever enlightenment you claim to have as a Christian, its foundation remains in Catholicism, which is the foundation of Christianity. This you cannot escape. 😏😏
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by sonmvayina(m): 9:17pm On Aug 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Talk is cheap 😂,bring out evidence!

We are all aware of the "miracle of the sun". Pls, bring out how you came to an objective conclusion that Mary "was" ...or "is" "Ina...".

Until then, keep your hearsays to yourself 🤨.
Well,Mary is the queen of heaven
Inanna is also the queen of heaven
Therefore inanna= Mary
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59pm On Aug 08, 2025
Abeg leave those European pagans
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:01pm On Aug 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Talk is cheap 😂,bring out evidence!

We are all aware of the "miracle of the sun". Pls, bring out how you came to an objective conclusion that Mary "was" ...or "is" "Ina...".

Until then, keep your hearsays to yourself 🤨.
He yabbing the Catholics
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Gabrielshow24: 9:12pm On Aug 09, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
He yabbing the Catholics
😂😂😂 Anything Christ like this, is a problem for him. He just believes in his illusion 🤕—I don tire for him.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:20am On Aug 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂 Anything Christ like this, is a problem for him. He just believes in his illusion 🤕—I don tire for him.
grin that is how he chose to lay his bed and the thing has made him like those bushy naked people we see on the road
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 6:58pm On Aug 10, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Whatever enlightenment you claim to have as a Christian, its foundation remains in Catholicism, which is the foundation of Christianity. This you cannot escape. 😏😏
You won't wanna accept this but there are really two forms of Christianity. The one that came out of Catholicism and the Christianity that the early apostles practiced. The one that made people of their day recognized them as Christians because of their lifestyle. This is what alot of people can't grasp. I understand and see your line of argument and you're perfectly right but there're a breed of Christians who practice Christianity after the lifestyle of Jesus Christ. One is a religion which came out of Catholicism the other is a lifestyle of Love, Holiness, Righteous living and Spirit Led
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 7:00pm On Aug 10, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
grin that is how he chose to lay his bed and the thing has made him like those bushy naked people we see on the road
My dear I just can't shut my mouth against what's wrong. I'm tempted to just let such people be but I can't. I'll still try and gently remind them of their heresy.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:03pm On Aug 10, 2025
AngelahFlo:
➜You won't wanna accept this but there are really two forms of Christianity. The one that came out of Catholicism and the Christianity that the early apostles practiced. The one that made people of their day recognized them as Christians because of their lifestyle. This is what alot of people can't grasp. I understand and see your line of argument and you're perfectly right but there're a breed of Christians who practice Christianity after the lifestyle of Jesus Christ. One is a religion which came out of Catholicism the other is a lifestyle of Love, Holiness, Righteous living and Spirit Led
Nonsense! The apostles never peddled religion and they were an Israelites-only movement. Right there, you immediately see that your argument falls apart when put up against the reality of things outside of your numerous Christian delusions. undecided
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 7:06pm On Aug 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The history of "why she is venerated" is online—it's rather due to personal revelation on the part of a certain pope. It's not an objective stance on Christendom to do so. Infact, it's highly boycotted save only in catholicism.
Very true Bro and I believe this heresy has eaten so deep that it's gonna be difficult to stop. It's amazing that a mere Virgin who never remained Virgin but later married and had other children which became siblings of Jesus could be venerated and claimed that she never married and that the other supposed kids were actually cousins instead of brothers.
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 7:07pm On Aug 10, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! The apostles never peddled religion and they were an Israelites-only movement. Right there, you immediately see that your argument falls apart when put up against the reality of things outside of your numerous Christian delusions. undecided
Amazing!!!!!
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by orisa37: 8:21pm On Aug 10, 2025
MARY IS BOTH
Re: Who Is Mary Really, Mother Of Jesus Or Venerated Queen Of Heaven? by AngelahFlo(op): 1:22pm On Aug 11, 2025
orisa37:
MARY IS BOTH
I beg to differ. Mary is the mother of Jesus while He was on earth but she's not the Queen of heaven.
To exalt a vessel to godhood simply because God designed and purposed that the Savior should come through her is heresy masked as religion.
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