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| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by justmondris: 12:36pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
MaziObinnaokija:Zenleakyy + US + NATO. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Mattswaggz: 1:06pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
runningriot:Funny analysis.... Trump wasn't bluffing when he said Zelensky doesn't have any cards to play in this situation. You're calling Putin demand for Ukraine to give up the land presently occupied by Russia unrealistic.....you must be on cloud 9. .If they don't want to give up the Land, they can keep on fighting with borrowed monies and weapons from Europe because America is showing signs of tiring with the entire thing....and Europe can't give more than they've given before which Ukraine has used to achieve little or nothing other than losing her most resource rich territories. U must be delusional if you think that Russia will just up and going after all the lives and monies wasted to conquer those territories....not even NATO getting directly involved in this would make Russia give back those territories to some extent. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by RaptorX: 1:28pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Zeebuy:For $7.2 million |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by RaptorX: 1:29pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Zeebuy:For $7.2 million, the resources in Alaska is now worth trillion of dollars. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by BondRiv: 1:37pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Lovenorth:What would you have him do that Biden didn't? It's called diplomacy. Trump is nobody's boss in Russia. It's weird that you used the word slave. Imagine being so accustomed to bullying and imperialism that normal relations are termed slavery. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Difrent: 1:49pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
datola:Nethanyahu also has an ICC arrest warrant out in his name but he strolls in and out of white house as he pleases so no worry, Putin won't be arrested..... Besides have you forgotten USA doesn't recognize the ICC |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by ariesbull: 2:25pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Mattswaggz:In war whatever land you got you keep...Fulani kept the ilorin land after wars with Yoruba |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by ariesbull: 2:28pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Difrent:Alright — here’s the breakdown of how the US and Israel avoid the ICC’s reach --- 1. The Legal Foundation The ICC’s jurisdiction is based on the Rome Statute, which 124 countries have ratified. It can prosecute crimes in three main ways: 1. If the accused is a national of a member state. 2. If the crime occurred on the territory of a member state. 3. If the UN Security Council refers the case (binding on all UN members). --- 2. US Position Not a member: The US never ratified the Rome Statute and “unsigned” it in 2002. Domestic law shield: The American Service-Members’ Protection Act (ASPA) allows the US to use “all means necessary” to free any US or allied personnel held by the ICC. (It’s nicknamed the “Hague Invasion Act.”) Bilateral immunity agreements: The US has signed deals with many countries (especially aid recipients) agreeing not to hand over US nationals to the ICC. Veto power at the UN Security Council: If the ICC needs a UNSC referral (e.g., for non-member states), the US can block it with a veto. --- 3. Israel’s Position Not a member: Israel signed in 2000 but declared in 2002 it would not ratify. Territorial argument: Israel claims Palestine isn’t a sovereign state, so it can’t delegate jurisdiction to the ICC. US diplomatic backing: The US consistently rejects ICC cases involving Israel and uses its UNSC veto to block resolutions that could lead to referrals. --- 4. The Jurisdiction Loophole The ICC says it can investigate crimes committed in the territory of a member state, even if the suspect’s country is not a member. Example: Afghanistan is a member — so ICC claims it can investigate alleged war crimes by US forces in Afghanistan. Example: Palestine joined the ICC in 2015 — so ICC claims jurisdiction over crimes in Gaza/West Bank/East Jerusalem, including by Israeli officials. --- 5. The “Non-Cooperation” Strategy Even if the ICC issues arrest warrants, it relies on member states to enforce them. The US and Israel simply do not hand over suspects. They pressure allies not to execute warrants. Without arrest, the ICC can’t proceed to trial — cases stall. --- Bottom line The ICC operates on consent and cooperation. The US and Israel avoid its jurisdiction by: Staying outside the treaty. Blocking referrals in the UN Security Council. Making legal arguments against ICC authority. Using diplomatic and economic leverage to prevent enforcement. -- |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by ariesbull: 2:33pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Modern African state conquests (post-1945) with pre-colonial/tribal conquests that still shape today’s borders and ethnic distributions. --- African Conquests & Retentions — State and Tribal Era / Category Conqueror Territory Taken From Date (Approx.) Method Present-Day Status Modern State (Post-1945) Morocco Western Sahara Spain / Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic 1975 Military occupation & settlement Controlled by Morocco, not UN-recognized Modern State Egypt Hala’ib Triangle Sudan 1990s Military control Fully controlled by Egypt, disputed Modern State Ethiopia Ogaden Somalia 1977–78 Ogaden War victory Still Ethiopian, Somali claims persist Modern State Eritrea Yirga Triangle Djibouti 2008 Border war Still occupied, disputed Pre-Colonial / Tribal Aro Confederacy (Igbo) Arochukwu Ibibio 17th–18th c. Aro-Ibibio War Became Aro political hub, now in Abia State, Nigeria Pre-Colonial / Tribal Igbo (Nsukka region) Nsukka Igala Kingdom 18th–19th c. Series of wars & resistance Now part of Enugu State, firmly Igbo Pre-Colonial / Tribal Sokoto Caliphate (Fulani) Ilorin Yoruba (Oyo Empire) Early 19th c. Fulani jihad & internal rebellion Still part of Kwara State, Muslim emirate tradition remains Pre-Colonial / Tribal Zulu Kingdom KwaZulu-Natal & beyond Various Nguni & Sotho-Tswana Early 1800s Mfecane/Difaqane wars Zulu cultural homeland today Pre-Colonial / Tribal Asante Empire (Akan) Central Ghana territories Fante & other Akan 18th–19th c. Military conquest & alliances Ashanti Region, Ghana Pre-Colonial / Tribal Oyo Empire (Yoruba) Dahomey tributary areas Fon 17th–18th c. Military expansion Modern Benin border shaped by this history Pre-Colonial / Tribal Buganda Kingdom Bunyoro lands Bunyoro-Kitara Late 19th c. Alliance with British Buganda still largest subnational kingdom in Uganda Pre-Colonial / Tribal Shona Kingdoms (Rozvi, Mutapa) Zimbabwe plateau Various 15th–18th c. Conquest & state-building Zimbabwe core territory Pre-Colonial / Tribal Mandinka Empires (Mali, Kaabu) Fula, Serer, Wolof lands Various 13th–19th c. Expansion via war & trade Cultural influence remains across West Africa --- Patterns Modern state conquests are rare but often tied to unresolved colonial borders (Western Sahara, Hala’ib Triangle, Ogaden). Pre-colonial conquests were “frozen” into today’s African map by colonial powers in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Many tribal conquests still define ethnic geography and political structures today (e.g., Ilorin’s Fulani emirate, Nsukka’s Igbo identity). --- so you’d see, for example, the Igbo push into Nsukka and Arochukwu alongside Morocco’s hold over Western Sahara. That way, we’d have both pre-colonial tribal wars and post-colonial state conquests on the same visual. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by runningriot: 2:53pm On Aug 09, 2025*. Modified: 4:14pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Mattswaggz:Please bro, let us engage in constructive and sound argument no need for these unpalatable choices of words. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Difrent: 4:23pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
ariesbull:So they have no right to police anyone since they don't want to be held accountable for their actions. Most past US presidents are war criminals thats why they can never sign the rome statutes |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by razzydoo(m): 5:19pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
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| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by internationalman(m): 6:01pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
WriteerNg:When you say size, in what way. Population or land area. I asked because Alaska is bigger than Ukraine in land area |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by WriteerNg: 6:05pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
internationalman:Population and resources. Alaska is basically empty. A frozen wasteland. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by MaziObinnaokija: 6:17pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Thoth02: 6:20pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Trump talks too much and that's his weakness. You hardly see Putin talking like this. Gemini men are too Verbose... While Librans are tactically calculative. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by ElevationD: 7:38pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
WriteerNg:Sorry bro, but I cannot remember Putin ever requesting for a pause. He has rather intensified over time with his ambition. Do not forget that he severally maintained that he would continue until his objective is achieved, even though in the recent times, he expressed openness to peace talks with very specific demands. For more clarity, note his demands for peace: - Concrete Framework for Peace Deal: Putin wants a clear framework for a final peace agreement before considering a temporary halt in fighting. - Carefully Selected Peacekeeping Nations: Putin wants to choose which nations would be involved in potential peacekeeping missions. - Territorial Demands: Russia has maintained hardline territorial demands, including Ukraine recognizing Russian sovereignty over Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson. Zelensky reported saying two day ago that Ukraine would not surrender an inch of their land to Russia, even as Trump has demanded that he do that to save lives. No way in this world have the American exhausted their air defence of military hardware, helping out the Ukrainians and Israelis. What you must know is that there is a minimum threshold that they can go with their equipments. Recently they have asked EU members to pay for the equipments to be delivered to Ukraine, and they all agreed. You do not seem to truly understand how events have been playing out. If the Americans were running out for peace, how did Biden’s government support Ukraine with so much money and weapons? Trump it was who said long before he became the President that he would prioritize and end to the war, so that two nations and the rest of the world would have peace. If you had been listening, you would have heard his threats to the Russians, which has now forced Putin to agree to a meeting. Previous discussions between the two were meaningless and Putin was pretentious. I sincerely hope that this meeting helps out with all the parties. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by WriteerNg: 7:45pm On Aug 09, 2025*. Modified: 11:03am On Aug 10, 2025 |
ElevationD:Oh so you don't know that Biden's family own shell companies in Ukraine and were using it to siphon money? Look it up. They were simply protecting their investments which is normal. Trump himself said their weapons stock are critically low and they cannot give Ukraine weapons meant to defend themselves. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by internationalman(m): 8:07pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
WriteerNg:You my guy are always spewing false statements about anything USA and its States probably because of hate your emotions generate towards them. Alaska may lack in population but is not a wasteland. Why would America buy a wasteland from Russia. Do you even know the meaning of a wasteland? Hiroshima is a wasteland. Alaska is the US state with the most natural resources. Alaska is just as important or even more important and valuable than most US states. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by WriteerNg: 8:14pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
ElevationD:Wait..... You think Trump's threats forced Russia and Putin to meet?? 30,000 sanctions on Russia yet you believe a threat of tarriffs, not even sanctions.... is what made Putin accept Trump's invite? Something Biden couldn't do with all his threats? Has Trump threatened Russia a quarter of Biden?. You think threats frightens Russia? Pfffftt there's no point going any further. There's no saving you. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by StoryHaven: 10:26pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
WriteerNg:All this bragging you are doing, Putin himself can't do it. Russia has not started yet. Whey is Russia going to start? The only power Russia has is Nuclear and unfortunately for them they are not the only country who has it. And if you care to hear something, dem no born Russia we'll make dem use Nuclear. That would be the end of that country. All the gra gra na nothing. Russia fighting small Ukraine and they breathing heavily like a marathon runner. You said 40 countries are supporting Ukraine. Can you name dem? ![]() It's like you are not aware of the countries backing Russia and the foreign fighters fighting for them. Yet, they are yet to over run small Ukraine. ![]() |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by StoryHaven: 10:28pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
chipet67:Has Putin announced he has won the war? He thought within weeks Ukrain is gone, unfortunately for him, Ukraine is still standing. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by chipet67(m): 10:29pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
StoryHaven:This one na under the bridge ogogoro men analysis |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by StoryHaven: 10:40pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
chipet67: How did you escape being banned by the useless bots. Putin Online warrior. ![]() |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by chipet67(m): 10:42pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
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| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Caseless: 2:37am On Aug 10, 2025 |
seunlayi:you guys have come with that nonsense fed by CNN and the rest. If it's affecting them, why not let the war go on? Since they actually want the Russian economy to tumble by imposing sanctions? |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Caseless: 2:39am On Aug 10, 2025 |
runningriot:All those Russia-speaking part of Ukraine wants out. |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by WriteerNg: 4:50am On Aug 10, 2025 |
StoryHaven:So what other special powers does the US/NATO have aside that same nuclear? Tell us we are waiting... Russia used nukes to defeat Nazi Germany abi? What about Japan? Who use nukes to defeat Japan? Would the US have won Japan without nukes? You just dey project US insecurities on Russia. Go sit down one corner jare. The world don leave u behind. Russia have been amassing Troops and military equipment in Belarus and near the borders of Kyiv since 2023. Why do you think they're doing that? When Russia begin proper war, no be person go tell you. The US you boast about have been smart and careful enough to avoid war with Russia. They say it everyday, they don't want to provoke Russia because they know what they're capable. Na u wey dey inside ur village wan tell us wetin Russia fit do and wetin dem no fit do. Get lost! |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by olawonder(m): 3:50pm On Aug 10, 2025 |
Lovenorth:What is he supposed to have done instead… attack Russia? How old are you if we may ask? |
| Re: Putin And Trump To Meet In Alaska On August 15 by Mattswaggz: 4:23pm On Aug 10, 2025 |
runningriot:Calling a spade a spade isn't "unpalatable choices of words"......Your suggestions was delusional at most even Trump and EU knows that. Hardly will you find anybody who will accept such terms. |
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