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TheAnimeEnjoyer:
Look bro im a white man myself, and I dont think we judge correct people for what their ancestors did 1000 years ago. Everyone group has blood on their hands including yours. You mentioned your ancestors were vikings? You do realize some of your ancestors were horrible people as well and they probably destroyed and killed many people.

So what makes you any different to the same men you judge in Africa? I'm Croatian/Slavic and we dont have blood on our hands besides the Serbs during WW2.

So why are you trying to cause hatred and division among people?

They are cherry-picking history to suit their narrative and only to line their pockets

If you are white
Are any of our countries grape cultures?
Can our women walk safely outside at night?
Do we have any slaves today?

The men here are hypocrites

They dont care about slavery at all because they still let it happen

All they actually care about is getting paid for what none of them suffered and they want us to pay for what none of us actually did

While they are doing it to each other today

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
Look bro im a white man myself, and I dont think we judge people for what their ancestors did 1000 years ago. Everyone group has blood on their hands including yours. You mentioned your ancestors were vikings? You do realize some of your ancestors were horrible people as well and they probably destroyed and killed many people.

So what makes you any different to the same men you judge in Africa? I'm Croatian/Slavic and we dont have blood on our hands besides the Serbs during WW2.

So why are you trying to cause hatred and division among people? factually speaking, yeah you are correct Africans were enslaving each other why before the white man showed. But you also destabilized Africa by drawing artificial borders and creating conflicts between people.

So i dont think your in good place to judge africans if you look at your own history.

Slavic, the word slave comes from you because you were slaves to Arabs and Northern Africans centuries before any whites took any Africans and for decades after we stopped

When American slaves got freedom

Northern Africans and Arabs were still taking your people

Fenrir:
They are cherry-picking history to suit their narrative and only to line their pockets

If you are white
Are any of countries grape cultures?
Can our women walk safely outside at night?
Do we have any slaves today?

The men here are hypocrites

They dont care about slavery at all because they still let it happen

All they actually care about is getting paid for what none of them suffered and they us to pay for what none of actually did

While they are doing it to each other today

no actually but your women were slaves to vikings and the vikings did horrible things. I find it strange that you moved to Nigeria as white man and express very strong hatred of Nigerian men?

If Norway is so great why did you move here? then to Nigeria? Why not just pack your bags and leave back to Norway. After all why not just marry a white woman? Why black women?

Also, yeah Nigerian men have done terrible things but not all are like that. Some are good and same are bad. I always try to give the benefit of doubt to people on personal level.

You just gonna be wary of people

Fenrir:
Slavic, the word slave comes from you because you were slaves to Arabs and Northern Africans centuries before any whites took any Africans and for decades after we stopped

When American slaves got freedom

Northern Africans and Arabs were still taking your people

Not really it was actually the Austrians and Hungarians that controlled use not the arabs and north africans.

That was a long time ago and why would i care about that ? like sure the ottoman empire doesnt exist anymore. The ottomans are long gone and revegne already happened.

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
no actually but your women were slaves to vikings and the vikings did horrible things. I find it strange that you moved to Nigeria as white man and express very strong hatred of Nigerian men?

If Norway is so great why did you move here? then to Nigeria? Why not just pack your bags and leave back to Norway. After all why not just marry a white woman? Why black women?

Also, yeah Nigerian men have done terrible things but not all are like that. Some are good and same are bad. I always try to give the benefit of doubt to people on personal level.

You just gonna be wary of people

Actually learn history mate

My ancestors their women while European and African women were being controlled

Viking women could own property and businesses
Land, anything

If a husband abused his wife
He got 3 chances
On third time
Instant divorce
The wife got all his property and he was banished if not he was brown bread

No, vikings did not abuse their own women ever at all, but they did other women as slaves

And actually learn real history
The nordic countries mainly Norwegians said no to slavery before any other country did

The British ended it worldwide
We willingly stopped before they decided to step in

Fenrir:
Slavic, the word slave comes from you because you were slaves to Arabs and Northern Africans centuries before any whites took any Africans and for decades after we stopped

When American slaves got freedom

Northern Africans and Arabs were still taking your people

Well by your own logic im also a rapist and women beater becasue believe it or not. In Serbia they have one of the highest domestic abuse rates in Europe same in Croatia.

Ive never beat a women in my life. But do you see how flawed that view is. Sure there's some Nigerian men that are bad and some are good. Just saying just get rid of the bad ones and keep the good ones.

Fenrir:
Actually learn history mate

My ancestors their women while European and African women were being controlled

Viking women could own property and businesses
Land, anything

If a husband abused his wife
He got 3 chances
On third time
Instant divorce
The wife got all his property and he was banished if not he was brown bread

No, vikings did not abuse their own women ever at all, but they did other women as slaves

And actually learn real history
The nordic countries mainly Norwegians said no to slavery before any other country did

The British ended it worldwide
We willingly stopped before they decided to step in

Yes, but you still had slaves from others and still practiced genocide against other groups of people so what makes you any different? Yes, factually speaking you are correct about somethings. But, why come to Nigeria then? if you dont like it

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
Not really it was actually the Austrians and Hungarians that controlled use not the arabs and north africans.

That was a long time ago and why would i care about that ? like sure the ottoman empire doesnt exist anymore. The ottomans are long gone and revegne already happened.

So are you justifying these men for saying all whites did it to them?

No, most did nothing at all
Its just the ruling elites
The top 1% with power
The majority 99% were basically slaves in their own countries as well

And slavery ended because the majority had enough and wanted it ended

Its not even profitable to keep slaves in the long run its utterly silly and power driven

You have to feed slaves
House them
You always own them if they work or not

Its makes more sense and more profit to rent peoples time

Give them jobs
They house and feed themselves
And you can hire and fire as needed

Fenrir:
So are you justifying these men for saying all whites did it to them?

No, most did nothing at all
Its just the ruling elites
The top 1% with power
The majority 99% were basically slaves in their own countries as well

And slavery ended because the majority had enough and wanted it ended

Its not even profitable to keep slaves in the long run its utterly silly and power driven

You have to feed slaves
House them
You always own them if they work or not

Its makes more sense and more profit to rent peoples time

Give them jobs
They house and feed themselves
And you can hire and fire as needed

Good point. Actually, I've DM you Im curious now to ask you some questions about Nigeria and somethings, I want to expat over there and stuff

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
Good point. Actually, I've DM you Im curious now to ask you some questions about Nigeria and somethings, I want to expat over there and stuff

I dont have access to that email address anymore
Changed numbers like a week ago due to a Nigerian attempted scam since I use a UK number and people are more likely to answer a UK number

Silly people here put random numbers into computers like cloning a number and just spam people from it

No charges to me as its not from my Phone or sim

I forgot to change the recovery information them my network sent me a new phone and changed the number associated with my sim card so cant access that email address anymore

And I dont have a Scrooby do how to change my email on here to a new one

I only just figured out how to add videos to this ajd the only way I figured it out is by using WhatsApp to save the link then copy and paste it

The wife thinks its hilarious watching a cave man trying to figure this virtual voodoo out

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
no actually but your women were slaves to vikings and the vikings did horrible things. I find it strange that you moved to Nigeria as white man and express very strong hatred of Nigerian men?

If Norway is so great why did you move here? then to Nigeria? Why not just pack your bags and leave back to Norway. After all why not just marry a white woman? Why black women?

Also, yeah Nigerian men have done terrible things but not all are like that. Some are good and same are bad. I always try to give the benefit of doubt to people on personal level.

You just gonna be wary of people

And when have I actually used the word hate?

Except for 2 types of people?

1) the particular religious beliefs that says child marriage and beheading anyone is ok

2) the arrogant pompous prostration parents that believe they deserve to be worshipped and misrepresent their whole culture and are the ones that give Nigerian cultures a bad name outside Nigeria

Do any other tribes of men in this country ever actually argue with me over the legal and not mandatory status of traditional acts?

Do all men from all other tribes on here freely accept its a couples choice and not theirs

All other tribes in Nigeria ask a groom kneel for a blessing not prostrate and all other tribes will just respectfully accept the word no over it

And all other tribes will accept that man sitting or bowing for the blessing if he offers instead

But the men of this 1 arrogant tribe will marry their daughters off to truly bad men that will prostrate over a good man that will refuse to do it

They will insult him and call him all kinds of things while calling themselves humble and respectful men

378 tribes here are capable of respecting all cultures and their own

1 is incapable of respecting anyone but themselves

2 tribes its 50/50 some will actually understand what respect is

And the Nigerians on here know the the three I mean because they live with them and see the attitude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJsJhqP03a0?si=mJSrd17xrBTd9_QI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3mYmRaGOw?si=MbzVJ5ugvVJwZFTZ

Please watch it and understand what ive been saying

We are not to blame
You are a fractured people

Over 230 million people
Your population is higher than any European country so you will automatically have more geniuses

Start using them to be an example not as an excuse

Use that intelligence for good and not evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3mYmRaGOw?si=MbzVJ5ugvVJwZFTZ

Please watch this one and stop using as a crutch or excuse to stay where you are

You have everything here and more potential than any of our countries and we've know that know that for years especially Nigeria

If you change your attitudes then in 15-20 years you could actually be a world leader to rival America or any European countries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3mYmRaGOw?si=ozuVJTgcXwa5l0k3

Lots of Africans
Men and women i admire and the best women in the world are Nigerian

But there is not 1 Nigerian man i admire or respect
You all lie and excuses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn_ok0gnL-8?si=FCjZRLr3mzX5YG_v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ro6F6Tmfag?si=nOy9CtI7x9zEX9aM

Understand, please 🙏

https://youtube.com/shorts/ahHVG6hhagw?si=mlTjj5MlJSpZUrhm

UNDERSTAND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZs6IgkozE?si=6NgavtLFp8nS4zEZ

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
Look bro im a white man myself, and I dont think we judge people for what their ancestors did 1000 years ago. Everyone group has blood on their hands including yours. You mentioned your ancestors were vikings? You do realize some of your ancestors were horrible people as well and they probably destroyed and killed many people.

So what makes you any different to the same men you judge in Africa? I'm Croatian/Slavic and we dont have blood on our hands besides the Serbs during WW2.

So why are you trying to cause hatred and division among people? factually speaking, yeah you are correct Africans were enslaving each other why before the white man showed. But you also destabilized Africa by drawing artificial borders and creating conflicts between people.

So i dont think your in good place to judge africans if you look at your own history.

So this isn't the first time I've said something under this Fenrir guy's posts as the first time I did, it lasted for a month and few days until he threatened to cyberstalk me (oh, what a pv$$y😆), blocked me and dragged his wife Tamara into it, talking about "leave my man alone" out of nowhere. Imagine someone playing offense yet needing defense from someone playing defense to his offense😐 it was more embarrassing seeing a fellow Nigerian support her husband's ragebaits and defend his insults on good Nigerians catching strays for no reason bcuz "her marriage". It got more embarrassing pushing it further and getting her deeper into the whole senseless debate myself... Even the person who instigated and pointed me to this direction in the first place Samantha, said to let it go
Why do I call this a senseless debate? First according to him NOT ALL white people were involved in the slave trade and shouldn't be criticized for it, right? I mean it's why he's been throwing tantrums on here for the longest... Now he's still the same person who's forcefully putting ALL Nigerian men in the same basket and criticizing ALL Nigerian men for what some narcissistic tards are involved in. I can remember one stupid logic he made that time😆 he said how to spot people guilty of your accusations; Accuse the entire demographic of something negative, anyone who comes up to exclude themselves or say "NOT ALL" BOOM! You've got your target.
Like😐 Imagine how stupid it sounds, but is he willing to apply the same logic in this case? "NOT ALL white people were involved in the Africa's slave trade era" I mean according to his flawed logic he's guilty because he tried to exclude himself and say "NOT ALL"
I observed his 2 main bone of contention is Nigerian men and African people in general; if it's not about Nigerian men it's about African people as a whole, if he sparks a debate about the African people (slave trade) he finds a way to input debate about Nigerian men (discrimination and crimes against women) then place them side by side. where I have a problem in all this, he desperately wants to be seen as the only good guy living in Nigeria that defends women😐 he doesn't want to agree to the fact that crimes against women are frowned upon by the general public. A man caught in the act can spark a mob intervention and can get lethal. Nigeria is also one of those countries where men would see a women being harassed and jump in to "save the day", ready to throw hands with an offender to protect a defenseless woman. Like, even in countries where women are openly belittled, aren't given freedom of expression, aren't allowed in certain public places (even having secluded corner in places of worship away from the center), prohibited to wear certain type of free clothes, can't even have an opinion let alone take leadership roles... But still the religion says that a woman is allowed to unalive her abuser if she gets the chance... If she's able to grab an object when he's in the act of rape, she's allowed to use it and unalive him on the spot (according to some sources I've stumbled upon). I've even seen instances where rapists in those areas are said to be brutally punished (mutilated) if guilty of rape. so you see? crimes against women even in the darkest parts of women rights problems are frowned upon...
Now talk about Nigeria where women are allowed to express themselves and dress freely, take leadership roles in society, have an opinion, where women are even seen as the prize that needs to be earned... How can it be so bad that this dude wants it to look like a culturally accepted practice of crimes against women and no other saviour but him
Funny thing is, I already advised him countless times! Instead of sitting at home being a keyboard warrior who makes enemy of literally anyone who responds to his ragebaits, he can make himself useful and go to the field! partner with organizations that protects the rights, welfare and interest of women. There are a lot of governmental and non-governmental organizations in Nigeria with that vision! There are major NGOs;
Women Trafficking and Child Labour Eradication Foundation (WOTCLEF), Devatop Centre for Africa Development (DCAD), Girls' Power Initiative (GPI), Youth Child Support Initiative (YCSI), Daughters of Abraham Foundation (DOAF), Auxano Foundation for Empowerment and Development (AFED), Edo State Taskforce Against Human Trafficking (ETAHT) and many more! There are a lot of Nigerian men who's saddled themselves with the responsibilities of fighting the good fight, not coming online to generalize an entire demographic so that someone falls for his ragebaits and responds, giving him an excuse to project it on them and villainize them about it, not caring if they're innocent. That's like seeing a thief and instead of going after him, you walk the opposite direction to a busy road and scream "YOU'RE ALL THIEVES" waiting for someone to stop andrespond so that he can fight that one person about it, and then walk away telling himself that he is fighting the good fight.

TheAnimeEnjoyer:
no actually but your women were slaves to vikings and the vikings did horrible things. I find it strange that you moved to Nigeria as white man and express very strong hatred of Nigerian men?

If Norway is so great why did you move here? then to Nigeria? Why not just pack your bags and leave back to Norway. After all why not just marry a white woman? Why black women?

Also, yeah Nigerian men have done terrible things but not all are like that. Some are good and same are bad. I always try to give the benefit of doubt to people on personal level.

You just gonna be wary of people

As for the slave trade part, I already told this dude that slave trade isn't exclusive to Africa, Africans aren't the only ones to get the bashing for slave trade... Every old civilization were involved in slavery and slave trade! feudal eras can't be ignored! In Africa tribesmen rose against other tribesmen, kingdom formed alliances with another kingdom to overthrow other kingdoms and share the spoils amongst themselves including prisoners of war who ended up being slaves and expand their empire. Slavery was also a punishment for wrong doings and used to clear debts so ofc every civilization had this and more deeply rooted in them at one point. The only reason Africa is looked upon the most now is; we had people who didn't look like us come to trade for those slaves🤷🏾‍♂️ and today an entire generation descended from those slaves (Black people in diaspora) and currently serves as a perpetual reminder of the slave trade in Africa. I also reminded this Fenrir guy that his ancestors were also notorious slave hunters who were raiding villages to reap resources and slaves for commercial purposes, IF they had external involvement of people who didn't look like them, they'd have sold those slaves too! Fast-forward to today, descendants of those slaves sold would've served as a perpetual reminder of their involvement in slave trade🤷🏾‍♂️ but since that wasn't the case, he thinks he's in the right to stand and criticize one's ancestors for their involvement in slave trade. I saw him tell you that it was only the ruling class who owned and traded slaves but still chose to bash ALL Africans for trading slaves when 99.9% of every African descended from ancestors who were at the mercy of the slave-trading chiefs and kings😐 but still criticize and bash us like we descended from them and not ordinary Africans, whose enslaved families some of us might have descended from in Africa😐
LASTLY, I already explained that him being blamed for what his ancestors weren't involved in is a misconception, I apologized on their behalf and told him just like some Europeans today can't differentiate between groups in Africa and would just bundle all of us in one basket because of skin color (for example thinking what West Africa is known for, East Africa is also known for) it's the same with some Africans here too! When they see a white skin, out of frustration and what history told them, they criticize the individual who might not even be related to the people guilty of whatever it is (like a Swedish person blamed for what the British did in Africa) And then I advised him to educate those folks and tell them how innocent he and his people are of all of it! Not coming online to attack the entire demographic of Africa and anyone who responds to his insults over a damn misconception!!!... That's too childish!

Tello619:
As for the slave trade part, I already told this dude that slave trade isn't exclusive to Africa, Africans aren't the only ones to get the bashing for slave trade... Every old civilization were involved in slavery and slave trade! feudal eras can't be ignored! In Africa tribesmen rose against other tribesmen, kingdom formed alliances with another kingdom to overthrow other kingdoms and share the spoils amongst themselves including prisoners of war who ended up being slaves and expand their empire. Slavery was also a punishment for wrong doings and used to clear debts so ofc every civilization had this and more deeply rooted in them at one point. The only reason Africa is looked upon the most now is; we had people who didn't look like us come to trade for those slaves🤷🏾‍♂️ and today an entire generation descended from those slaves (Black people in diaspora) and currently serves as a perpetual reminder of the slave trade in Africa. I also reminded this Fenrir guy that his ancestors were also notorious slave hunters who were raiding villages to reap resources and slaves for commercial purposes, IF they had external involvement of people who didn't look like them, they'd have sold those slaves too! Fast-forward to today, descendants of those slaves sold would've served as a perpetual reminder of their involvement in slave trade🤷🏾‍♂️ but since that wasn't the case, he thinks he's in the right to stand and criticize one's ancestors for their involvement in slave trade. I saw him tell you that it was only the ruling class who owned and traded slaves but still chose to bash ALL Africans for trading slaves when 99.9% of every African descended from ancestors who were at the mercy of the slave-trading chiefs and kings😐 but still criticize and bash us like we descended from them and not ordinary Africans, whose enslaved families some of us might have descended from in Africa😐
LASTLY, I already explained that him being blamed for what his ancestors weren't involved in is a misconception, I apologized on their behalf and told him just like some Europeans today can't differentiate between groups in Africa and would just bundle all of us in one basket because of skin color (for example thinking what West Africa is known for, East Africa is also known for) it's the same with some Africans here too! When they see a white skin, out of frustration and what history told them, they criticize the individual who might not even be related to the people guilty of whatever it is (like a Swedish person blamed for what the British did in Africa) And then I advised him to educate those folks and tell them how innocent he and his people are of all of it! Not coming online to attack the entire demographic of Africa and anyone who responds to his insults over a damn misconception!!!... That's too childish!

Tello619
Tello619
Tello619

Login to your other account and see that you are slowly fading away this one too soon 😃

Debbie9792:
I've used a guest to view this for months and I cant keep quiet any longer this Fenrir dude is right most talk about Africa as if we love it but we are the most hated people around because of people like you and our men! You have attacked his, you used race multiple times to attack him and the 3 weeks are up you are back to harass him. Im going to make it my mission to report every post you make and erase you from here

Notice how you didn't reply what that my specific post was hitting at and chose to go down the "Nigerian men" topic even when I was specifically referring to the slave trade debate😆 makes me suspect you're Tamara, his wife😆 because a bunch of other folks have been giving him back to back response and nobody showed up to fight them but the moment Tello comes up, there's someone with a new account trying to get rid of Tello😆😆😆😆 it happened before and now look! I was replying someone else under his topic and not him directly but alas, we have a new person whose only recent posts are replies to Tello😆😆😆
VERY SUS! is that how scared of me this Fenrir guy is? Blocked me and sent his wife to get rid of me some months back, and today I stepped in and now all of a sudden we have a new account trying to erase me from Nairaland, for what? For condemning the guilty Nigerian men and separating the well-meaning Nigerian men out there so that they're not put in the same basket of the criminals for something they're innocent of?
Hahahahahahaha😆😆😆😆
And you say, Im back to harass him😆 like... Nahhhhh! HOW COME SOMEONE PLAYING OFFENSE NEEDS DEFENDING FROM SOMEONE PLAYING DEFENSE TO HIS OFFENSE😆😆😆
He plays offense to ALL
I play defense for SOME
...
Someone comes up to attack me and defend him
Telling me I'm "harassing" him, for defending the innocent SOME from his OFFENSE😆😆😆
This looks like something Tamara, Fenrir's wife would do!
This dude's only job is to come and bundle EVERYBODY into one basket BASHING BASHING BASHING including people innocent of his allegations, who excludes themselves from the criticism, using myself as an example because why should I be insulted and criticized for what the actual offenders out there do and should be prosecuted for? People who should be chased and punished for their wrong doings👌🏾💯
So far it's obvious this d00fus doesn't like to be criticized for what he and his people had nothing to do with, right? The whole British Africa colonization slavery thing, right? And he keeps wailing that it's wrong that ALL white people are blamed for what SOME white group of people did just because they're ALL white, right? Okay good... But yet this same d0nkey is forcefully villainizing ALL Nigerian men for something SOME Nigerian men do just because they're ALL Nigerian men😆 (something that's not even exclusive to Nigerian men) and you say it's Nigerian men like me that make others hate us?😆😆😆 Do I sound like someone who's normalizing and defending crimes against women? Did I not make it clear that I've repeatedly SINCE I STARTED ENGAGING UNDER THIS GUY'S POST. I've countless times excluded myself! I've condemned crimes against women and I've advised to fight the good fight by partnering and assisting NGOs that protects women rights and welfare! Because coming online to attack EVERYBODY all day long is sooo dumb and childish! The real fight is going after the criminals offline, charging them to court and making sure they're well punished! And then documenting the good news online so you get your flowers🤷🏾‍♂️
NOT coming to ragebait online, project it on anyone who responds, fight them about it even though they're the wrong target and then walk away telling yourself you're fighting the good fight

Fenrir:
Tello619
Tello619
Tello619

Login to your other account and see that you are slowly fading away this one too soon 😃

So scared of me are you, little boy blue🥹?
You couldn't stomach a prolonged argument with me...
I faced you head on for many weeks
You tried to silence me with cyberstalkin threats 🤡
You blocked me🤡
Sent your wife Tamara to get rid of me, talking about "leave my man alone" 🤡

And now just as I stepped in to continue after a long break chilling in your blocklist, I'm getting a mention from some new account again telling me they will report all my posts and make sure I'm erased from Nairaland😆 you didn't even at least reply to anything I said, you just took reinforcements, went straight to search for the k*ll switch in my posts and profile 🫵🏾🤡
You've been getting counter replies from folks back to back and none of them have gotten this treatment BUT the moment Tello steps in OOOOOOHHHHHH! Tello needs to go, right? Am I that much of a threat to your ragebaitin career on here?!?? 🫵🏾🤡
And for some reason I can't find all my replies to you but my post count is still there😆 So you really needed a new "Debbie" account to get rid of me again? It was Tamara the last time...
HAHAHAH🤡