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Peacecore:
It's your opinion though.

That's Acts 17:17 I referenced. Do you have your own bias about preaching in public places like the marketsquare?

Peacecore:
Wisdom will never depart from you, brother. I hope this full detailed explanation here can get to them. They're seriously making gest of Christianity, and I'm bothered. Peace with you also, and remain blessed.

Amen in Jesus name!
One thing i so much love in the TRUTH is how easily explainable, straightforward and sweet to grasp for honest hearted and sincere individuals! John 8:32

If we all know that shouting in the streets and in buses doesn't make any sense and that it's written in the Bible that Jesus doesn't shout in the streets {Matthew 12:19} then there's no need arguing further with whoever wants to continue deceiving himself!

Peacecore:
It's your opinion though.

Sometimes it's good to read what goes on around you.

Do Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Mouka, Olukoya and Oyakilome goes to streets and buses to preach?
How come we are seeing what they said inside their churches on the Internet?

God's organization called the first part of our meeting on Sundays:
"Public Talk"
Why?
Because that's when we preach what our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus revealed to us in the secret not on the streets!

achorladey:
That's Acts 17:17 I referenced. Do you have your own bias about preaching in public places like the marketsquare?

How did the apostles preach in market places?
Is it by shouting at passersby or speaking to individuals who want to listen to them?
In their first public preaching the Bible recorded that each of their listeners was hearing the one talking to him in his own mother tongue. Act 2:6
Please how could this be possible is they were just shouting indiscriminately at passersby?

Peacecore:
Evangelism can honourably be done by doing it in the churches, visiting homes, prisons is not left out also.

It can be done on the street too.

In revelation, there are two witnesses preaching the gospel and they did it on the street.

arantess:
It can be done on the street too.
In revelation, there are two witnesses preaching the gospel and they did it on the street.

That's an illustration not a real life event!

MaxInDHouse:
How did the apostles preach in market places?
Is it by shouting at passersby or speaking to individuals who want to listen to them?
In their first public preaching the Bible recorded that each of their listeners was hearing the one talking to him in his own mother tongue. Act 2:6
Please how could this be possible is they were just shouting indiscriminately at passersby?

Now it is, is it by shouting indiscriminately. What is your business with shouting indiscriminately. You call what others are doing shouting indiscriminately.

When a town crier enters your community, they come into your sitting room to deliver the message of the baale or king. I don't understand.

Do the apostles preach publicly? Yes they did. Do they preach in marketplaces? Yes they did. How they do it shouting, whispering, crying or dancing is none of your business from here. Your thread title was about it having an impact? Yes, many who listened him publicly later invited him to their homes for more and by so doing some were converted.

How did the apostles preach in market places?

You have lost your way in your own thread

Is it by shouting at passersby or speaking to individuals who want to listen to them?

Does not remove the fact that they preach publicly and in marketplace.

In their first public preaching the Bible recorded that each of their listeners was hearing the one talking to him in his own mother tongue. Act 2:6

Does not mean they didn't preach publicly and it was effective.

Please how could this be possible is they were just shouting indiscriminately at passersby?

I hold a bell and raised my voice using a microphone and speaker to tell you about a mobile device that will be of benefit to you in the middle of the marketplace or public spaces. To you Peacecore it is shouting indiscriminately, to others I am making announcement, advertising or as it were proclamation about something. In no time you see people approaching me to know about what you call indiscriminate shouting or noisemaking.

Peacecore is not a toddler, are you?

Slenderer!
I will always be ahead of you because i'm using the full strength of the scriptures to back whatever i say while you are just seeking a counter argument.
So sit back and watch how sincere and honest hearted individuals grasp the truth! John 8:32

achorladey:
Now it is, is it by shouting indiscriminately. What is your business with shouting indiscriminately. You call what others are doing shouting indiscriminately.
When a town crier enters your community, they come into your sitting room to deliver the message of the baale or king. I don't understand.
Do the apostles preach publicly? Yes they did. Do they preach in marketplaces? Yes they did. How they do it shouting, whispering, crying or dancing is none of your business from here. Your thread title was about it having an impact? Yes, many who listened him publicly later invited him to their homes for more and by so doing some were converted.
You have lost your way in your own thread
Does not remove the fact that they preach publicly and in marketplace.
Does not mean they didn't preach publicly and it was effective.
I hold a bell and raised my voice using a microphone and speaker to tell you about a mobile device that will be of benefit to you in the middle of the marketplace or public spaces. To you Peacecore it is shouting indiscriminately, to others I am making announcement, advertising or as it were proclamation about something. In no time you see people approaching me to know about what you call indiscriminate shouting or noisemaking.
Peacecore is not a toddler, are you?

Peacecore:
I'm concerned about the image of Christianity which I also identify with.

You should ask yourself if Jesus put image into consideration when he gave that order. Jesus n his Apostles preached in diverse environment

femi4:
You should ask yourself if Jesus put image into consideration when he gave that order. Jesus n his Apostles preached in diverse environment

The Bible (Scriptures) says about Jesus:

He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets. Matthew 12:19 compare to Isaiah 12:2

Is there any other way to explain that he was not shouting in their streets?

immortalcrown:
Do they shout like the ones in Nigeria do?
There are also shops and motorists in UK but they are not as noisy as the ones in Nigeria. Stop distracting yourself with your denial of the reality.

Please why did Adeboye, Kumuyi, Olukoya, Oyedepo, Mouka, Oyakilome and others not speaking against this?

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible (Scriptures) says about Jesus:

He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets. Matthew 12:19 compare to Isaiah 12:2

Is there any other way to explain that he was not shouting in their streets?

What you quoted had nothing to do with preaching the gospel.

In fact, Jesus in the temple and whenever he's addressing the Pharisees was different from what you put there.

We should be careful on how we quote scripture out of context

femi4:
What you quoted had nothing to do with preaching the gospel.
In fact, Jesus in the temple and whenever he's addressing the Pharisees was different from what you put there.
We should be careful on how we quote scripture out of context

Please help us quote where Jesus was shouting in the streets as preaching?

Thank you in advance!

MaxInDHouse:
Why is it that you people don't grasp the simple illustrations Jesus is using?

Jesus is telling his disciples to declare the secret things he taught them in the congregations (churches) not in the streets because that will negate the way he laid the foundation of house to house and the humble approach of asking for permission to speak.

It's wrong shouting at people who don't want to listen to your message that's what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth never did in the first century!

Either they listen or not, say it.

Kayberg:
Either they listen or not, say it.

You are not the one who commissioned the work so we will obey the master who did the work and taught us how to do his work!

MaxInDHouse:
You are not the one who commissioned the work so we will obey the master who did the work and taught us how to do his work!

And the Apostles?

MaxInDHouse:
Slenderer!
I will always be ahead of you because i'm using the full strength of the scriptures to back whatever i say while you are just seeking a counter argument.
So sit back and watch how sincere and honest hearted individuals grasp the truth! John 8:32

Looooooool

Slenderer

Na Slanderer and what will you gain with peddling or slandering others on Nairaland

I will always be ahead of you because i'm using the full strength of the scriptures to back whatever i say while you are just seeking a counter argument.

I am not interested whether you are below me in your competing mentality what I know you indeed have full strength of scriptures to abuse to back up your explanations, lies, fraud and manipulations about preaching publicly and Jesus Christ paapaa

So sit back and watch how sincere and honest hearted individuals grasp the truth! John 8:32

Only to run away when your brains tell you that you cannot be sitting with wicked men and scoffers peddlings of your brains.

Kayberg:
And the Apostles?

They followed his footsteps CLOSELY never shouting in the streets in fact it was even a crime in Jerusalem back then for anyone to shout in their streets speaking about Jesus who was executed as a criminal and their rulers has expelled whoever claims he believes in Jesus from their Synagogues!

MaxInDHouse:
Please help us quote where Jesus was shouting in the streets as preaching?

Thank you in advance!

Matthew 23 - Woes to the Pharisees

23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do.

In fact, if John the baptist was going about it the wrong way, Jesus would have corrected him

Steven is another good example...the method was approved. In fact, the bible says he was filled with the holy spirit

femi4:
Matthew 23 - Woes to the Pharisees
23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do.

The crowd gathered listening to him he wasn't shouting in their streets to passersby?

femi4:
In fact, if John the baptist was going about it the wrong way, Jesus would have corrected him

John never preached in their streets or cities rather he was shouting in the wilderness! Matthew 3:1

MaxInDHouse:
The crowd gathered listening to him he wasn't shouting in their streets to passersby?

Hope you know the meaning of crowd

Hope you also know the meaning of "Woe"

MaxInDHouse:
John never preached in their streets or cities rather he was shouting in the wilderness! Matthew 3:1

Was baptism done in the wilderness

femi4:
Steven is another good example...the method was approved. In fact, the bible says he was filled with the holy spirit

Stephen wasn't shouting in their streets rather he was about to be executed that's why he started preaching to his executors who thought they were doing the right thing by stoning him to death!

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible (Scriptures) says about Jesus:

He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets. Matthew 12:19 compare to Isaiah 12:2

Is there any other way to explain that he was not shouting in their streets?

See how the liar and slandering peddling brains run away.....

Luke 19:1........ Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2 A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3 He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. 4 So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way.5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” 6 So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

MaxInDHouse, whose voice was heard in the street of Jericho asking Zaccheus to come down?

Respond make you enter my trap this evening with your tendencies to abuse scriptures with full strength

femi4:
Hope you know the meaning of crowd
Hope you also know the meaning of "Woe"

A crowd means a large number of people not passersby!

femi4:
Was baptism done in the wilderness

Please read my first post again i believe you will understand:

MaxInDHouse:
They are misinformed churchgoers!

Preaching in Bible times was two types?

First was the preaching God's prophets did before our common era (b.c.e) back then the nation of Israel had two Kings the first is their God who brought them out of Egypt and conquered all inhabitants of Canaan for His worshipers to inherit the place this King is a Spirit who lives forever the other kings were humans that Israelites later demanded for themselves! 1Samuel 8:6-7
Their real King (God) has the right to send town criers (prophets) to deliver urgent messages or warnings to them so this prophets (town criers) can stand in any of their streets or cities to deliver the message of their God (King) at any time.
But in our common era (c.e) things have changed a lot the Israelites had turned against their God (King) countless times {Matthew 21:43} so this King or God no longer send town criers (prophets) to enter into their streets shouting.
WHY? Because by the time Jesus walked the earth another nation out of several nations that's been ruling over Israelites is in charge of their public affairs so it is inappropriate for any town crier (prophet) to enter the streets shouting in the name of any God as their rulers may take such as disturbing the peace in their domain that's the reason why God did not send John the baptist into their towns or streets when it's time for this prophet to declare the coming of Christ rather this prophet was shouting in the wilderness! Matthew 3:1
So it was in the wilderness that faithful Jews were going to meet this prophet to know the message their God had for them! Matthew 3:5-6

After Jesus (a carpenter) got baptized by John it was revealed to John that this is the Christ that John came to prepare the way for {John 1:33} so Jesus took over the job from John the baptist and from that moment John began receiving less attention while Jesus started getting more {John 3:25-30} that was how Jesus began preaching and teaching and all the people were going to him.

QUESTION!
Was Jesus shouting in the streets?
ANSWER!
NO!
He first gathered his trusted childhood friends and started going from house to house preaching and the theme of his preaching is the same as that of John the baptist {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} but instead of shouting in the wilderness he approaches doors and greets householders before delivering his speech this reminded his disciples of what has been foretold about the Christ:

Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.  He will not cry out or raise his voice, And he will not make his voice heard in the street. No crushed reed will he break, And no smoldering wick will he extinguish. In faithfulness he will bring justice. He will not grow dim or be crushed until he establishes justice in the earth; And the islands keep waiting for his law. Isaiah 42:1-4 compare to Matthew 12:19
So Jesus commissioned the preaching and teaching of God's Kingdom message from house to house and door to door so that his real disciples don't disturb passersby with noise. They are to go and knock people's doors, greet householders and ask for permission to speak before delivering their messages! Matthew 10:11-13
Do you know a religion whose preaching and teaching activities is the same as this today?
God bless you and may you have Peace!

femi4:
Matthew 23 - Woes to the Pharisees

23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do.

In fact, if John the baptist was going about it the wrong way, Jesus would have corrected him

Steven is another good example...the method was approved. In fact, the bible says he was filled with the holy spirit

To that one called MaxInDHouse, the crowds Jesus was talking to here are inside the kitchen of Jesus Christ house.


The guy go just dey abuse scriptures then boast and brag of it as Bible knowledge

MaxInDHouse:
The crowd gathered listening to him he wasn't shouting in their streets to passersby?

But his voice would not he heard in street. Those gathered were inside the parlor of Jesus house

MaxInDHouse:
A crowd means a large number of people not passersby!

So he was quietly talking to a crowd