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The struggle between Israel and Palestine

There should be a UN brokered deal between Palestine and Israel. If Yoruba groups like Ife and Modakeke that fought and killed each other some years ago can be living beside each other peacefully today then the same is possible between Palestine and Israel. Palestinians are insisting they have a right to all the land and it is understandable because it is their ancestral land which started passing into Jewish ownership in the late nineteenth century during the Ottoman empire era. However ownership by purchase does not necessarily translate to sovereignty but the Palestinians must also remember that if this were AD 70 we, as onlookers would have been pressing the Romans to let the exiled Jews return to their land just like we are pressing the Israeli government to let the exiled Palestinians return today. Jews performing the aliyah today inherited their refugee status from ancient times and Palestinians have refugee status from 1948. It must be noted that the desert in Israel today is not a no man’s land just like it was not during the nineteenth century. There is no no man’s land anywhere in the world.
I believe the Israeli government should reach an agreement with the Palestinians as per how many people they can allow to return so that at least some people can return. It is however not easy to form one state for all presently on the land but it can be possible to form a de facto one state similar to the European Union with both Palestinians and Israelis not requiring visas to live and work in both countries while they will only be able to vote where they have citizenship.
If this will work then onlookers that want peace must find ways to monetarily compensate the Palestinians who are the only people to lose part of their ancestral home land in the twentieth century. The era of driving people off their land has passed and if there is going to be an excuse for the Israeli nation then the aggrieved party i.e. the Palestinians should be compensated.

Bias write up... Did the world start from the Nineteenth century for u to claim Palestine have the land..?

bigpicture001:
Bias write up... Did the world start from the Nineteenth century for u to claim Palestine have the land..?

Jews have an historical claim but the land has been under the ownership of non Jews for centuries. Even during Bible times the non Jews were there. Galilee was called Galilee of the Gentiles for instance. The present Palestines are definitely descendants of Philistines who scholars say were a Greek people, Jews, Romans, Turks, Persians and etc and they have their own national identity. There were also Jewish indigenes in Palestine as well as Samaritans.
The problem is you can't just expel people from their land because your ancestors controlled part of it 2000 years ago. It is not acceptable in the modern world

lawani:
Jews have an historical claim but the land has been under the ownership of non Jews for centuries. Even during Bible times the non Jews were there. Galilee was called Galilee of the Gentiles for instance. The present Palestines are definitely descendants of Philistines who scholars say were a Greek people, Jews, Romans, Turks, Persians and etc and they have their own national identity. There were also Jewish indigenes in Palestine as well as Samaritans.
The problem is you can't just expel people from their land because your ancestors controlled part of it 2000 years ago. It is not acceptable in the modern world

How did Arabs turn to Palestinians...?

U are indirectly saying Arabs who are migrants ND appears from no where now owns Palestine...?

bigpicture001:
How did Arabs turn to Palestinians...?

U are indirectly saying Arabs who are migrants ND appears from no where now owns Palestine...?

It is just like saying Egyptians are Arabs when scientists say they are over 70 percent descended from Egyptians of five thousand years ago who were not Muslims and spoke no Arabic. Palestinians are not Arabs by descent, they are only so culturally. They are their own people. Descended from the mix I mentioned

lawani:
It is just like saying Egyptians are Arabs when scientists say they are over 70 percent descended from Egyptians of five thousand years ago who were not Muslims and spoke no Arabic. Palestinians are not Arabs by descent, they are only so culturally. They are their own people. Descended from the mix I mentioned

My guy, see how it happened.... Isreal for real are immigrants who lay claims to a large territory called Palestine... The indegenes ppl tried chased them away in a fight, but isreal defeated them instead and majority of them left.. isreal built Jerusalem ..

They went to re- Inforce after many if their youths are grown and took isreal by suprised and defeated isreal and chased them away...

Isreal in turn went to re-inforce like them and came back and attack them, defeating them and chasing them away

This attacked , defeat, re-inforce and and reclaim btw these people continues.. making both if them a Waring nations.. with mom staying permanent

Mind u, each period btw defeat and re-inforcement may take about 30-40years... And in each case.. some indegenes of the defeated remain with the victors.... Non of them where Arabs...

Around a period when Isreal was away and planning on doing it's normal routine, Arabs migrated to the land. ND fought the Palestinians, defeating them.. and did their usual... Killing men, marrying off women like the did in northern Nigeria... Thereby creating a ppl of mix tribe and dominion, they install Islam on them... That is where Islam came to the land..

When isreal returned to fight her normal customer, they found a strange people there... They fought anyways ND defeated them and chase them away too...

The Tabs dominating Palestinians went to re-group and also did it's counter attack on isreal as usual when they defeated them..

In each period isreal loses large amount of indegenes same with Palestine... And before each return, many don't come back as they wonder off into new lands and never join isreal nations again.. but maintained it's culture....the core of isreali leadership continue to fight the course

Till they were totally defeated ND shrink in population by the Arabs.. Arabs were able to do that cus if their larger population gathering pol from the Arab peninsula... Isreal never returned again.. until the US and UK brought them back centuries later in 1946

Before them , Britain has conquered the Arabs of Palestine and forced leadership on them.. isrealites popularly called Jews. We're a wandering people but with same culture .... The culture irritates ppl all around the world, but they are nice, hardworking and resilient..

When the US brought them back.. the Arabs revolted against it and claim that the whole land belongs to them.. the US and UK who created a world order then handed the situation to the UN and the UN created a space for them and created a buffer terrory btw them which will b governed by the UN.. making it the only UN territory in the world..


But the Arab Palestine refused... By then isreal started calling on all Jews scattered all around the world to return... Many did... And the US ND UK strengthen them...

The rest are stories u know... So u see, everyone there is a settler... Except the indegenes of Palestine which almost do not exist because Arabs killed them all...

Arabs does not HV claims to that land so is isreal... So if they can't accept a two state solution, they should continue to fight... ND who remain standing should take it all...

Isreal accepted the two state solution, it was the Arabs dt didn't