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Image123:
Round 6

Subtopic: The Holy Spirit performs functions that make Him divine and He is referred to several times as either belonging to God or Christ or the Lord.


Claim:

Reading the Bible, we see that the Holy Spirit is a person and He is distinct from the Father and the Son. As stated in the subtopic, His functions as seen in the Bible are divine. These functions include, but are not limited to His works in creation, the resurrection of Jesus, and the inspiration of the Bible. These are all works of God.
Apart from these, the Bible tells us that He is eternal, He is everywhere, and He knows everything. As i stated, He is referred to as the Spirit of God, of Christ, and of the Lord:

Round 6

Rebuttal

The Holy spirit performs divine functions according to the will of God the Father. It is the spirit of God not another God. It does not speak on his own authority as Christ told us, he speaks whatever he hears from God the Father through Jesus Christ. God gives the Holy spirit to anyone he wants. It is being sent and proceeds from the Father and not his equal. It is of God because it belongs to God. It is of Christ because God the Father gave it to Christ without measure. And all things are of God the Father according to 1 Corinthians 8:4-6. It is the power of God. Jesus said that the sent is not greater than he who sent him.

The works of God means the works of God the Father. Just as Jesus is doing the work on him who sent him. The Holy spirit was never called God in anywhere in the scripture. The Holy spirit does the work of God the Father by praying for believers according to the will of God. So he is not equal to God the Father because he is serving God's purpose and will.

So the subtopic does not support trinity but support the fact that the Father is one God over all and greater than all who are called God.

Key verses:

I Corinthians 8:4-6 NKJV
[4] ...and that there is no other God but one. [5] For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), [6] yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

Luke 1:35 NKJV
[35] And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

John 15:26 NKJV
[26] “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

Acts 1:8 NKJV
[8] But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

John 16:13 NKJV
[13] However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

John 9:4 HCSB
[4] We must do the works of Him who sent Me while it is day. Night is coming when no one can work.

John 13:16 RSV
[16] Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.


1 Corinthians 3:23 LSB
[23] and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

John 3:34 LSB
[34] For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the Spirit without measure.

Acts 2:17 LSB
[17] ‘And it shall be in the last days,’ God says, ‘That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind;...

John 14:26 LSB
[26] But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

Romans 8:26-27 NLT
[26] And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. [27] And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.

Boomark:
You are not blind to see manipulation in the video posted. Have you seen any manipulation or you are only interested in making false remarks against innocent people. Even though your video was tiny I still spotted your errors that affected the AI judgement.

After today I will not listen to your false accusations because your deciet is now obvious.

Make your requests clear and straightforward. You keep twisting and bending on your own rules, get your acts together. Make sure that the OP(Opening Post) is updated with the rules. i cannot be searching for the latest rules from your several updates. i didn't make the rules, you did. i only use them to show you what you didn't know before. You MUST know.

Image123:
Make your requests clear and straightforward. You keep twisting and bending on your own rules, get your acts together. Make sure that the OP(Opening Post) is updated with the rules. i cannot be searching for the latest rules from your several updates. i didn't make the rules, you did. i only use them to show you what you didn't know before. You MUST know.

It has been updated and bolded. The challenge rules remains permanent while you use and edit the one with instruction for each round

Boomark:
It has been updated and bolded. The challenge rules remains permanent while you use and edit the one with instruction for each round

Okay, good. What of

AWARDING POINTS:

Winner = +10 points

Instruction number 3 only (for avoiding point) = -5 points to rule breaker, +5 to opponent. Do not award points incase of draw.

Total score for each participant:

i guess you want me to use this to re-score your rounds? What rounds are you contesting? Lemme know the ones i'll help you with.

BTW, i'll be put all the rules in quote each time. i don't intend to have a dedicated tab. i can use AI for other things. So anytime i need it for you, i'll put the rules. At least, you should have no fear, they are your rules na. Or?

Image123:
Okay, good. What of



i guess you want me to use this to re-score your rounds? What rounds are you contesting? Lemme know the ones i'll help you with.

BTW, i'll be put all the rules in quote each time. i don't intend to have a dedicated tab. i can use AI for other things. So anytime i need it for you, i'll put the rules. At least, you should have no fear, they are your rules na. Or?

No. I have been doing the scoring manually. I am not contesting any round. I only saw you didn't do the right thing in your round 5 video.

All I have been doing is for you to do the right thing. You don't do it wrong and start lamenting.

The Ai has a place where you see previous conversations and you can continue your conversation with it there any time. You also get fresh page where you can ask new questions.

Boomark:
No. I have been doing the scoring manually. I am not contesting any round. I only saw you didn't do the right thing in your round 5 video.

All I have been doing is for you to do the right thing. You don't do it wrong and start lamenting.

The Ai has a place where you see previous conversations and you can continue your conversation with it there any time. You also get fresh page where you can ask new questions.

Lolz, how convenient. The AI scores probably doesn't favour you. Logically, it's supposed to help you.
AI is subject to what you feed it. Therefore, anytime i need it for you, i'll put the rules. At least, you should have no fear, they are your rules. There's no harm being careful. Let's avoid magomago.
So, round 1, 2 and 3 draw. You also have two deductions for late submission. Round 4 i won. You want me to remark Round 5 by removing claim that you typed after the bracket. Is this what you are saying?

Boomark:
You are not blind to see manipulation in the video posted. Have you seen any manipulation or you are only interested in making false remarks against innocent people. Even though your video was tiny I still spotted your errors that affected the AI judgement.

After today I will not listen to your false accusations because your deciet is now obvious.

i answered this earlier, it got deleted.
Lolz, showing you ChatGPT results is false accusation. i gave you pictures, you asked for video. i still gave. It is still excuses upon excuses. i have asked you several times, make your rules and instructions clear and stable. Follow them and use them. i will also help you to use them on the same AI. i don't understand how someone who claims to have just 2 months of experience using AI, who has being shown his mistakes at least twice, is still talking like this. i taught you on this same thread that AI doesn't have a default program that favours Trinity. i opened your eyes to see that AI responds to what you feed it and is GIGO based. You bluntly and proudly refused to openly ackowledge till this second. Yet you keep making funny protests.

Round 6 Result

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 point

Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring)
Boomark: 0

Final score

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 points

Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGfJTMexJoA?si=4XgfTBrHpZxnVLgF

Round 7

Subtopic: Jesus Christ is a prophet of God

Claim:

The Bible identifies Jesus not as God Almighty, but as a prophet sent by God.
Jesus said, “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country” (Matthew 13:57), and the people declared, “This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth” (Matthew 21:11).

He fulfilled Moses’ prophecy: “I will raise them up a Prophet… and will put my words in his mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22). Jesus Himself said, “I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment what I should say” (John 12:49-50). He say the truth which he hears from God.

A prophet is God’s messenger, not God Himself.
Therefore, Jesus being a prophet proves the Father who sent him is greater than all — including Jesus (John 14:28) — just as the main topic states.


Key verses:

Matthew 13:57 NIV
[57] And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.”

Luke 13:33 NIV
[33] In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!

Matthew 21:10-11 HCSB
[10] When He entered Jerusalem, the whole city was shaken, saying, “Who is this? ” [11] And the crowds kept saying, “This is the prophet Jesus from Nazareth in Galilee! ”

Luke 7:16 HCSB
[16] Then fear came over everyone, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen among us,” and “God has visited His people.”


Deuteronomy 18:18 NIrV
[18] I will raise up for them a prophet like you. He will be one of their own people. I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him to say.

Acts 3:20-22 NIrV
[20] He will send the Messiah. Jesus has been appointed as the Messiah for you. [21] Heaven must receive him until the time when God makes everything new. He promised this long ago through his holy prophets. [22] Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me. He will be one of your own people. You must listen to everything he tells you.

John 7:16 GNT
[16] Jesus answered, “What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God, who sent me.


John 12:49-50 GNT
[49] This is true, because I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has commanded me what I must say and speak. [50] And I know that his command brings eternal life. What I say, then, is what the Father has told me to say.”

John 8:40 LSB
[40] But now you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. This Abraham did not do.

John 14:28 LSB
[28] You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Do you agree Image123?



I have posted Round 6 result

Image123:
Lolz, how convenient. The AI scores probably doesn't favour you. Logically, it's supposed to help you.
AI is subject to what you feed it. Therefore, anytime i need it for you, i'll put the rules. At least, you should have no fear, they are your rules. There's no harm being careful. Let's avoid magomago.
So, round 1, 2 and 3 draw. You also have two deductions for late submission. Round 4 i won. You want me to remark Round 5 by removing claim that you typed after the bracket. Is this what you are saying?

You did not answer this. Boomark.

Boomark:
Round 7

Subtopic: Jesus Christ is a prophet of God

Claim:

The Bible identifies Jesus not as God Almighty, but as a prophet sent by God.
Jesus said, “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country” (Matthew 13:57), and the people declared, “This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth” (Matthew 21:11).

He fulfilled Moses’ prophecy: “I will raise them up a Prophet… and will put my words in his mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22). Jesus Himself said, “I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment what I should say” (John 12:49-50). He say the truth which he hears from God.

A prophet is God’s messenger, not God Himself.
Therefore, Jesus being a prophet proves the Father who sent him is greater than all — including Jesus (John 14:28) — just as the main topic states.


Key verses:

Matthew 13:57 NIV
[57] And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.”

Luke 13:33 NIV
[33] In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!

Matthew 21:10-11 HCSB
[10] When He entered Jerusalem, the whole city was shaken, saying, “Who is this? ” [11] And the crowds kept saying, “This is the prophet Jesus from Nazareth in Galilee! ”

Luke 7:16 HCSB
[16] Then fear came over everyone, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen among us,” and “God has visited His people.”


Deuteronomy 18:18 NIrV
[18] I will raise up for them a prophet like you. He will be one of their own people. I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him to say.

Acts 3:20-22 NIrV
[20] He will send the Messiah. Jesus has been appointed as the Messiah for you. [21] Heaven must receive him until the time when God makes everything new. He promised this long ago through his holy prophets. [22] Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me. He will be one of your own people. You must listen to everything he tells you.

John 7:16 GNT
[16] Jesus answered, “What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God, who sent me.


John 12:49-50 GNT
[49] This is true, because I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has commanded me what I must say and speak. [50] And I know that his command brings eternal life. What I say, then, is what the Father has told me to say.”

John 8:40 LSB
[40] But now you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. This Abraham did not do.

John 14:28 LSB
[28] You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Do you agree Image123?



I have posted Round 6 result

Again and again, the proof remains that ChatGPT or any other AI is not reliable to stand on. Here is my own video saying again that i won.
This time, i didn't log in, i just put everything just to be transparent, still same result saying the opposite of what you post. As usual, make of it what you will. i don't need it for validation, you do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSBOPnMVmV4

Image123:
Again and again, the proof remains that ChatGPT or any other AI is not reliable to stand on. Here is my own video saying again that i won.
This time, i didn't log in, i just put everything just to be transparent, still same result saying the opposite of what you post. As usual, make of it what you will. i don't need it for validation, you do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSBOPnMVmV4

Whenever you make a clear bold video you tell me.

Image123:
You did not answer this. Boomark.

I don't have time to be repeating same thing over and over again.

Boomark:
I was falsely accused in the post I made in link below.
I would like you to check if it is a false accusation or he is right. What I said was marked with pink and what image123 accused me of saying marked with green

What I said about ChatGPT in the first screenshot:

Me: It's default program favours trinity.

What I was accused of saying in the bolded:

Image123: Prior to my corrections, you erroneously denied ChatGPT's default program doesn't favour Trinity.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136385350

See another place where he made the same statement. So I want you people to honestly tell us the truth. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136380242

gohf, Janosky, Emusan.

In all honesty, Boomark posited that ChatGPT does favour Trinity, while Image123 claimed It doesn't.

Image123, please kindly admit as a true child of God that you wrongly accused Boomark. I know it might be an oversight. It wouldn't have been deliberate but be mature enough to admit it and apologize.

I must commend image123 for the good efforts he has put into the discussion and all his contributions so far. However, I would want him to honorably admit his wrong and thereby continue gaining the trust and respect of readers.

Personally, I can attest to it that ChatGPT favours the Trinity doctrine. It is trained in whatever is popular. The Trinity doctrine is more popular than the no-Trinity doctrine.

I'll counsel my brother, Image123 to apologize to Boomark in the spirit of love and Christian brotherhood.

However, I would advise my brother, Boomark to stop making absolute assertions on the matter. Calling the Trinity doctrine a false doctrine when you are yet to prove it so, is uncultured.

I still have a lot to show you from the Scriptures once you're done with Image123. Do not make definitive remarks because the Scriptures say of us: And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 1 Corinthians 8:2.

Boomark:
Round 7

Subtopic: Jesus Christ is a prophet of God

Claim:

The Bible identifies Jesus not as God Almighty, but as a prophet sent by God.
Jesus said, “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country” (Matthew 13:57), and the people declared, “This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth” (Matthew 21:11).

He fulfilled Moses’ prophecy: “I will raise them up a Prophet… and will put my words in his mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22). Jesus Himself said, “I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment what I should say” (John 12:49-50). He say the truth which he hears from God.

A prophet is God’s messenger, not God Himself.
Therefore, Jesus being a prophet proves the Father who sent him is greater than all — including Jesus (John 14:28) — just as the main topic states.

Jesus Christ is a prophet, even muslims know and acknowledge that, not to mention Christians. The fact that you missed out is that Jesus is so many other things too. He is also identified as King(Rev 17v 14), Priest(Hebrews 3v1), Saviour (Philippians 3v20), Rock (1 Cor 10v4), Shepherd (Jn 10v14), Light (Jn 9v5), even Bread (Jn 6v48), and so much more in the Bible. A prophet is someone who communicates God's word to the people, and while this title partially characterizes Jesus' earthly ministry, it does not restrict His identity to only that of a prophet.
Jesus was much more than a prophet. His roles and titles are not mutually exclusive. The Bible shows us His divine nature. No other prophet in the Bible has His claims. None could be said to be the Word, that was God, or the way, the truth and the life, or the resurrection, eternal or all things were made by Him. If Jesus were only a prophet, accepting worship or claiming God’s name would violate the First Commandment (Exodus 20:3). But He does both without sin.
Calling Him a prophet is true, but incomplete. It does not negate His divinity. Role is not nature, we previously discussed this when you mentioned his role as servant and i showed that He voluntarily humbled Himself (Philippians 2:6–. Your stance does not check the overall affirmation of the Bible, but ignores the full biblical testimony.


Key verses: All KJV as usual

Rev_17:14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Heb_3:1  Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
Php_3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
1Co_10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Joh_10:14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Joh_9:5  As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
Joh_6:48  I am that bread of life.
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
Joh_11:25  Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.
Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 
Exo 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 
Mat_28:9  And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
Joh_20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Heb_4:15  For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Boomark:
I don't have time to be repeating same thing over and over again.

i see. i'll have to update one of my posts on the first page to reflect what i have said several times then. Here are some of the videos again using the phone and dark mode. Again, i do not use it to prove that i win you or whatever, but to show you again that AI cannot be a determinant of doctrine or what scriptures say. It cannot even assess or analyse the same thing consistently as shown. In all these, take some time to reflect and at least go through posts. i noticed that one of the videos i posted had 0 views. Meaning that you didn't even bother to see it before concluding. i hope that you can see these ones.

Round 1 ChatGPT says it was a draw. i even asked it for a remark, and why it changed its mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNoYw7dxQ0

Round 2 ChatGPT says it was a draw.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xgFCZF57Cmk

Round 3 gave two results. One a draw and the second one a win for me.

Round 3 draw
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/scWsx_Dz47Y

Round 3 win for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qExVkK5U9fQ

Round 6, it says i won. i think i earlier sent it from the computer screen but you gave some excuse. Here is a clearer version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKo4h5VinKc

FxMasterz:
In all honesty, Boomark posited that ChatGPT does favour Trinity, while Image123 claimed It doesn't.

Image123, please kindly admit as a true child of God that you wrongly accused Boomark. I know it might be an oversight. It wouldn't have been deliberate but be mature enough to admit it and apologize.

I must commend image123 for the good efforts he has put into the discussion and all his contributions so far. However, I would want him to honorably admit his wrong and thereby continue gaining the trust and respect of readers.

Personally, I can attest to it that ChatGPT favours the Trinity doctrine. It is trained in whatever is popular. The Trinity doctrine is more popular than the no-Trinity doctrine.

I'll counsel my brother, Image123 to apologize to Boomark in the spirit of love and Christian brotherhood.

However, I would advise my brother, Boomark to stop making absolute assertions on the matter. Calling the Trinity doctrine a false doctrine when you are yet to prove it so, is uncultured.

I still have a lot to show you from the Scriptures once you're done with Image123. Do not make definitive remarks because the Scriptures say of us: And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 1 Corinthians 8:2.

i didn't accuse him wrongly. Admitting that will be the lie. i used a double negative, which i admit can be confusing but is not wrong.
Boomark said ChatGPT's default program favour Trinity. i told him no, and gave him picture proof from ChatGPT itself proving him wrong. This is the incident that i clearly referred to later in a double negative. Boomark knew this and quoted it but somehow wanted some brownie points as typical. i am very sorry that he is offended but i didn't lie against him. He simply didn't understand the double negative statement that i used.

Image123:
i didn't accuse him wrongly. Admitting that will be the lie. i used a double negative, which i admit can be confusing but is not wrong.
Boomark said ChatGPT's default program favour Trinity. i told him no, and gave him picture proof from ChatGPT itself proving him wrong. This is the incident that i clearly referred to later in a double negative. Boomark knew this and quoted it but somehow wanted some brownie points as typical. i am very sorry that he is offended but i didn't lie against him. He simply didn't understand the double negative statement that i used.

Alright brother.

The Lord will be glorified in Jesus name.

Round 8

Subtopic: Jesus has divine titles that no other man has, making Him God.

CLAIM:

Jesus Christ, the Son of God is referred to by various titles that prove Him to be divinity. The Son Jesus is God. Reading through scriptures, you see Him called, The Word was God, Emmanuel which means "God with us", Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, which denotes eternal, divine nature. He also the mighty God (a title which refers directly to God in some old testament scriptures), the Holy One, Lord of glory, among others. These are not just titles that you can call any mere prophet or priest like for example Elijah or John, or even Moses or any of the apostles.

Key verses: All KJV as usual.
Joh_1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh_1:34  And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
Mat_1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Rev_17:14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Rev_19:16  And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev_21:6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev_22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Isa_9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Luk_4:34  Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.
Act_2:27  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act_3:14  But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
1Co_2:8  Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Jas_2:1  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.


Do you agree Boomark?

Image123:
i didn't accuse him wrongly. Admitting that will be the lie. i used a double negative, which i admit can be confusing but is not wrong.
Boomark said ChatGPT's default program favour Trinity. i told him no, and gave him picture proof from ChatGPT itself proving him wrong. This is the incident that i clearly referred to later in a double negative. Boomark knew this and quoted it but somehow wanted some brownie points as typical. i am very sorry that he is offended but i didn't lie against him. He simply didn't understand the double negative statement that i used.

See your coach here.

John 8:44 NRSV
[44] You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Well done.

Image123:
i see. i'll have to update one of my posts on the first page to reflect what i have said several times then. Here are some of the videos again using the phone and dark mode. Again, i do not use it to prove that i win you or whatever, but to show you again that AI cannot be a determinant of doctrine or what scriptures say. It cannot even assess or analyse the same thing consistently as shown. In all these, take some time to reflect and at least go through posts. i noticed that one of the videos i posted had 0 views. Meaning that you didn't even bother to see it before concluding. i hope that you can see these ones.

Round 1 ChatGPT says it was a draw. i even asked it for a remark, and why it changed its mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNoYw7dxQ0

Round 2 ChatGPT says it was a draw.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xgFCZF57Cmk

Round 3 gave two results. One a draw and the second one a win for me.

Round 3 draw
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/scWsx_Dz47Y

Round 3 win for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qExVkK5U9fQ

Round 6, it says i won. i think i earlier sent it from the computer screen but you gave some excuse. Here is a clearer version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKo4h5VinKc

Please try and use common sense at least.

I have told how to send the rules but you still don't understand. You went and did it you own way.

There is nothing like draw in a claim and rebuttal debate. I said something and you oppose what I said and you are talking about draw. There was no subtopic in your round 1 and 2. You also add Mr A and Mr statement which was not the challenge rule. I even made what you should use bold but in fact you have a problem. Anyway, what you got was a parallel analysis.

As in, all the time I wasted trying to show you how to start the chat with ChatGPT in the link below was for nothing sake.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136386003

Screenshots

1. You are not supposed to add this Mr A and Mr B thing. I clearly told you what you copy but your lack of understanding carried you dey go.

2. It was making judgement based on parallel analysis instead of proponent and opponent bases. Claim and rebuttal and not claim Vs claim.

3. I wonder why claim was supposed to counter a rebuttal instead of rebuttal that is meant to counter a claim. Round 3

4. Parallel analysis. What am I rebutting in my own claim.

This is where you failed. The evidence clearly shows that your AI is compromised. It is difficult to say it was a mistake because you are not trustworthy. You have already shown us how you twist things and pretend you didn't do anything.

1. Your ChatGPT is making judgement based on theology. This is a very big red flag. It broke rule 1 which state that judgement must be made with bible alone. No borrowing of anything from creed, tradition, etc.

2. This a foul play. Theological judgement is unacceptable. No wonder you are claiming that you won and draw some with me. It is using it's default program that favours trinity to make judgement. You are free to accuse me of denying what I never denied anywhere.

3. See my own in round 3 and how judgment should be. It doesn't tolerate anything that is against the rules. No theology, creed, tradition or anything outside the bible.


I will not keep repeating myself when you don't know how to do things. When you remove subtopic of the discussion, I wonder what you want to get from a no topic discussion. You not only talk out of point, you also do things out of point.

FxMasterz:
In all honesty, Boomark posited that ChatGPT does favour Trinity, while Image123 claimed It doesn't.

Image123, please kindly admit as a true child of God that you wrongly accused Boomark. I know it might be an oversight. It wouldn't have been deliberate but be mature enough to admit it and apologize.

Since Boomark has been tagging my mention on this issue, I didn't reply because I don't understand his main point.

But with this, I think we need to understand something.

Firstly, No AI outside there condition with any benefits or bias ideas. Anyone with little background in Software Engineering will know AI only pulls information from different ACCESSIBLE sources and make it readable in well organized way.

So, the claim by Boomark that AI FAVOUR TRINITY isn't true and I think that was the impression that image123 tried to correct.

AI will only output what you feed it with.

Secondly, image123 claim that AI doesn't favour Trinity is correct.

For instance, If you ask AI Does God exist?

It will answer what the Theist claims, what Atheist claims and what philosopher claims and I'm very sure no AI will outrightly say "Yes! God does Exist or No! God does not exist."

Lastly, I will use this to address how I do deal with AI when it comes to most debatable topics i.e Bible & Christianity.

For instance, I post a verse in the Bible and I ask AI to explain... The reply will come with most widely acceptable explanations and those who opposed such view example Christ Divinity. With this only verse the AI can conclude that Yes Jesus is God but when I push further with another verse, it's view of Jesus being God will change and vis a vis.

So, the best way of using AI about Jesus Divinity which I've done is this:

1. I ask AI, if God should exist what and what attributes must a Being have before considered being be God? The AI listed attributes like UNCREATED, ETERNAL, All Knowing e.t.c

2. I ask the AI to go through Matthew to Revelation and pick where those attributes appeared.

3. I then ask it to explain those verses.

4. It's explanation will still try to be most acceptable vs most opposed but I'll push further by saying something like "I don't want explanation based on Theology, I want open-mind explanation i.e if I'm reading those verses without a background on any Theological theories."

5. It's explanation will a little bit different from the first explanation and if you're not bias at least the person should agree with the AI 70-80%.

6. The last thing I do also, is to ask the AI to go through the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts itself and explain those verses based on it's understanding of those languages without Theological theories.


In conclusion, I've tried to use some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus isn't God and it agreed and I've also used some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus is God and it agreed as well.

That is why I said, AI isn't favour Trinity it depends on how you put your question or statement.

I know the reason why Boomark made that claim is because he has done that many times and the results he got wasn't pleasant to his ears.

My two cents!

Emusan:
Since Boomark has been tagging my mention on this issue, I didn't reply because I don't understand his main point.

But with this, I think we need to understand something.

Firstly, No AI outside there condition with any benefits or bias ideas. Anyone with little background in Software Engineering will know AI onlys pull information from difference ACCESSIBLE sources and make it readable in well organized way.

So, the claim by Boomark that AI FAVOUR TRINITY isn't true and I think that was the impression that image123 tried to correct.

AI will only output what you feed it with.

Secondly, image123 claim that AI doesn't favour Trinity is correct.

For instance, If you ask AI Does God exist?

It will answer what the Theist claims, what Atheist claims and what philosopher claims and I'm very sure no AI will outrightly say "Yes! God does Exist or No! God does not exist."

Lastly, I will use this to address how I do deal with AI when it comes to most debatable topics i.e Bible & Christianity.

For instance, I post a verse in the Bible and I ask AI to explain... The reply will come with most widely acceptable explanations and those who opposed such view example Christ Divinity. With this only verse the AI can conclude that Yes Jesus is God but when I push further with another verse, it's view of Jesus being God will change and vis a vis.

So, the best way of using AI about Jesus Divinity which I've done is this:

1. I ask AI, if God should exist what and what attributes must a Being have before considered being be God? The AI listed attributes like UNCREATED, ETERNAL, All Knowing e.t.c

2. I then ask the AI to go through Matthew to Revelation and pick where those attributes appeared.

3. I then ask it to explain those verses.

4. It's explanation will still try to be most acceptable vs most opposed but I'll push further by saying something like [b]"I don't want Theological explain, I want open mind explanation i.e if I'm reading those verses without a background on any Theological theories.

5. It's explanation will a little bit different from the first explanation and if you're not bias at least the person should agree with the AI 70-80%.

6. The last thing I do also, is to ask the AI to go through the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts itself and explain those verses based on it's understanding of those languages without Theological theories.


I'm conclusion, I've tried to use some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus isn't God and it agreed and I've also used some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus is God and it agreed as well.

That is why I said, AI isn't favour Trinity it depends on how you put your question or statement.

I know the reason why Boomark made that claim is because he/she has done that many times and the results he got wasn't pleasant to his ears.

My two cents!

Thanks.

Boomark:
See your coach here.

John 8:44 NRSV
[44] You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Well done.

Self deceit.

Boomark:
Please try and use common sense at least.

I have told how to send the rules but you still don't understand. You went and did it you own way.

There is nothing like draw in a claim and rebuttal debate. I said something and you oppose what I said and you are talking about draw. There was no subtopic in your round 1 and 2. You also add Mr A and Mr statement which was not the challenge rule. I even made what you should use bold but in fact you have a problem. Anyway, what you got was a parallel analysis.

As in, all the time I wasted trying to show you how to start the chat with ChatGPT in the link below was for nothing sake.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136386003

Screenshots

1. You are not supposed to add this Mr A and Mr B thing. I clearly told you what you copy but your lack of understanding carried you dey go.

2. It was making judgement based on parallel analysis instead of proponent and opponent bases. Claim and rebuttal and not claim Vs claim.

3. I wonder why claim was supposed to counter a rebuttal instead of rebuttal that is meant to counter a claim. Round 3

4. Parallel analysis. What am I rebutting in my own claim.

The joke is on you. You constantly leave the weightier matters like Who used scripture more clearly and accurately? Did either person use scripture out of context? Did either side prove or avoid the point? Who followed the challenge rules more closely? Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone? You prefer to focus on dots, where is subtopic or claim typed, how to put a bracket and if self made main topics are followed. Those are more important to you than understanding and revelation.
All i used were your rules, written by you and changed at least 3 times by you now. i simply scrolled back and recorded using phone instead of the computer used earlier. i replaced Boomark and Image123 with Mr A and Mr B in some places. Those are minor and don't influence or affect the substance.
Lolz at wondering at my ChatGPT. So it's now mine? i told you many times that AI is unreliable. i even did one round like twice and it gave different results, same prompt. i think either round 1 or 3. i am not responsible for what ChatGPT writes or analyses. The prompt was yours. When i asked you about remarking, you said you cannot be repeating, lolz. Better wake up from self deception.

Emusan:
Since Boomark has been tagging my mention on this issue, I didn't reply because I don't understand his main point.

But with this, I think we need to understand something.

Firstly, No AI outside there condition with any benefits or bias ideas. Anyone with little background in Software Engineering will know AI only pulls information from different ACCESSIBLE sources and make it readable in well organized way.

So, the claim by Boomark that AI FAVOUR TRINITY isn't true and I think that was the impression that image123 tried to correct.

AI will only output what you feed it with.

Secondly, image123 claim that AI doesn't favour Trinity is correct.

For instance, If you ask AI Does God exist?

It will answer what the Theist claims, what Atheist claims and what philosopher claims and I'm very sure no AI will outrightly say "Yes! God does Exist or No! God does not exist."

Lastly, I will use this to address how I do deal with AI when it comes to most debatable topics i.e Bible & Christianity.

For instance, I post a verse in the Bible and I ask AI to explain... The reply will come with most widely acceptable explanations and those who opposed such view example Christ Divinity. With this only verse the AI can conclude that Yes Jesus is God but when I push further with another verse, it's view of Jesus being God will change and vis a vis.

So, the best way of using AI about Jesus Divinity which I've done is this:

1. I ask AI, if God should exist what and what attributes must a Being have before considered being be God? The AI listed attributes like UNCREATED, ETERNAL, All Knowing e.t.c

2. I ask the AI to go through Matthew to Revelation and pick where those attributes appeared.

3. I then ask it to explain those verses.

4. It's explanation will still try to be most acceptable vs most opposed but I'll push further by saying something like "I don't want explanation based on Theology, I want open-mind explanation i.e if I'm reading those verses without a background on any Theological theories."

5. It's explanation will a little bit different from the first explanation and if you're not bias at least the person should agree with the AI 70-80%.

6. The last thing I do also, is to ask the AI to go through the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts itself and explain those verses based on it's understanding of those languages without Theological theories.


In conclusion, I've tried to use some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus isn't God and it agreed and I've also used some verses in the scripture to prove to the AI that Jesus is God and it agreed as well.

That is why I said, AI isn't favour Trinity it depends on how you put your question or statement.

I know the reason why Boomark made that claim is because he has done that many times and the results he got wasn't pleasant to his ears.

My two cents!

Why are things difficult for you people to understand?

See example what I want from you.

I wrote on a board: "the rice is brown"

Now someone came and said that, "I denied the fact that the rice isn't brown"

So I want you to tell us if what he said was actually what I wrote on the board. Did I deny anything from what I wrote on the board. Use this illustration and check again. Did it match what I said or was I falsely accused of denying what I never denied.

I am only interested in the false accusation not the AI experience on trinity.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136388655

Image123:
The joke is on you. You constantly leave the weightier matters like Who used scripture more clearly and accurately? Did either person use scripture out of context? Did either side prove or avoid the point? Who followed the challenge rules more closely? Which response was closer to the truth based on the Bible alone? You prefer to focus on dots, where is subtopic or claim typed, how to put a bracket and if self made main topics are followed. Those are more important to you than understanding and revelation.
All i used were your rules, written by you and changed at least 3 times by you now. i simply scrolled back and recorded using phone instead of the computer used earlier. i replaced Boomark and Image123 with Mr A and Mr B in some places. Those are minor and don't influence or affect the substance.
Lolz at wondering at my ChatGPT. So it's now mine? i told you many times that AI is unreliable. i even did one round like twice and it gave different results, same prompt. i think either round 1 or 3. i am not responsible for what ChatGPT writes or analyses. The prompt was yours. When i asked you about remarking, you said you cannot be repeating, lolz. Better wake up from self deception.

Always try and use common sense.

If you want use Mr Biggs and Mr Chicken, I marked the Mr A and Mr B statement for you and told you not to use it. It is not meant for ChatGPT but for you and for people to understand how the discussion will be. I have never used it but you won't listen. Continue lamenting over your inability to understand things.

Round 7 Result

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 point

Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring)
Boomark: 0

Final score

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 points

Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ah82EiNlzfQ?si=MVy7WGR0jcr4o8B9

Image123

Boomark:
Why are things difficult for you people to understand?

This is the issue.

My reply was the cumulative of what I know that transpired between you and him.

See example what I want from you.

I wrote on a board: "the rice is brown"

Now someone came and said that, "I denied the fact that the rice isn't brown"

So I want you to tell us if what he said was actually what I wrote on the board. Did I deny anything from what I wrote on the board. Use this illustration and check again. Did it match what I said or was I falsely accused of denying what I never denied.

If this is what you want, then I read his reply to FX about how he used two NEGATIVE words to show what he meant. Well I don't have much to say on that.

I am only interested in the false accusation not the AI experience on trinity.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123/3#136388655

I will advise you to focus on your thread and don't stretch much on this.

False accusations is a strong word, remember you also claimed "AI default program favors TRINITY" which is also false.

Should AI demand apology for this or will you be willing to tender an apology to AI?

To me this is just misunderstanding that needs not to be stretched.