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bdon123:
Is she supposed to be in prison or police cell?

Prison
Her status is ON. REMAND not. SENTENCED

She has been charged to court
Her alleged offence is bailable so she is entitled to bail at the discretion of the court

Normally people are kept in prison ON REMAND after they are granted bail but fail to meet the bail conditions


Sometimes court refuses bail if they believe there is justification and accused are kep there on Remand

So you need to understand what REMAND means

It is perfectly legal


Only courts have authority to send people to prison

I don't know what happened in her case but there are two possibilities
1. The court sent her on Remand pending a bail hearing
2. She has already been granted ba8l but is yet to meet the bail conditions

aribisala0:
Prison
Her status is ON. REMAND not. SENTENCED

She has been charged to court
Her alleged offence is bailable so she is entitled to bail at the discretion of the court

Normally people are kept in prison ON REMAND after they are granted bail but fail to meet the bail conditions


Sometimes court refuses bail if they believe there is justification and accused are kep there on Remand

So you need to understand what REMAND means

It is perfectly legal


Only courts have

Remand in prison...wetin do airport police station or ikeja police station to be charged to court

What is the aource of this lie or we are to just believe your nonsense because you cut a post like lpob normally do n added a Yoruba name ?

Ntigha:
Post by passenger has contradicted what the public was made to believe in the incident involving Ibom Air cabin crew and a passenger a passenger posted online what actually happened

According to a post by a passenger Tunde Ibrahim the Cabin crew got physical with the lady first by pushing her to her seat when she tried to get down after the aircraft landed.

“ I was on boardIt was the crew member that resisted the lady from coming down because of put off phone ar no put off phone.
The lady told the crew that her phone was already on flight mode
After landing they refused to allov the lady from coming down saying they have called the airport securi to pick her up.
Infact they push the lady back on seat for many of us to pass”

aribisala0:
Prison
Her status is ON. REMAND not. SENTENCED

She has been charged to court
Her alleged offence is bailable so she is entitled to bail at the discretion of the court

Normally people are kept in prison ON REMAND after they are granted bail but fail to meet the bail conditions


Sometimes court refuses bail if they believe there is justification and accused are kep there on Remand

So you need to understand what REMAND means

It is perfectly legal


Only courts have

Actually her offence isnt bailable becos its a criminal offence to assault anyone.I jst pity her...see all of us hav seen oranged n even fantisize already. ABEG JUSTICE FOR HER ORANGES

bdon123:
Remand in prison...wetin do airport police station or ikeja police station to be charged to court

I want to believe you can read and comprehend English
Read again or get a neighbour to help you

bdon123:
Actually her offence isnt bailable becos its a criminal offence to assault anyone.I jst pity her...see all of us hav seen oranged n even fantisize already. ABEG JUSTICE FOR HER ORANGES

criminal offences are not bailable?

Nigeria make the most senseless comment so tru out the flight can not take photos ?!

Thw crew were jealous of her n decised to naked her, was that before she slappes them or after. Na she be the only fine girl wey de the plane ?!

Nairalander248:
List the lawful instructions here... If you put your phone on flight mode, it's as good as putting your phone off...she said her phone was on flight mode... There is no RF whatsoever on a phone on flight mode and doesn't interferes with the flight devices.. why them no dey tell us to off our phones on international flight??

Person struggle to pay 140k economy tickets and you won't allow her to take picture

The air hostess see fine girl and she jealous she come detain person daughter for plane, and she became physical and Una dey judge am. Abi u guys no see the video she uploaded that she ask the lady to excuse her for her to go out and those wey say she no wear bra, the video she uploaded, she wore jacket... Uyo to Lagos is 50min or max 1hr. Wetin una wan make she wear again ooh.. most ladies dey vex for her coz she gets nice paw paw.

May Nigeria never happen to you, tueeeh

bdon123:
Is she supposed to be in prison or police cell?is it not after charging to court that judge remands in prison until bail can be made

You are ignorant of the facts and you're making noise about.

The lady was charged to court by the police and the court remanded her in prison custody. A bail application will be heard at a future date.

Please, if you want to comment online, try to get yourself educated before doing so.

UpaIweka:
Nigeria make the most senseless comment so tru out the flight can not take photos ?!

Thw crew were jealous of her n decised to naked her, was that before she slappes them or after. Na she be the only fine girl wey de the plane ?!

I don't understand your words "decised" and "slappes" if it's what I am thinking it should be, then you need to watch the footage she released...

I am not saying what she did was right, but she was unlawfully detained... Go and check the number of lawyers that will want to fight for this girl...

Nairalander248:
I don't understand your words "decised" and "slappes" if it's what I am thinking it should be, then you need to watch the footage she released...

I am not saying what she did was right, but she was unlawfully detained... Go and check the number of lawyers that will want to fight for this girl...

She was not unlawfully detained
That is a wrong assertion
Number of lawyers
Are there so many jobless lawyers

bdon123:
It is relevant. All airlines operate under aviation law not airline laws.This is same everywhere around d world.If she did this abroad,she will be arrested n bailed.Bt u see wetin kwam 1 do?its called hijacking a plane wit passengers onboard.D aviation rules says flight mode or switch off.d reason for d or switch off is becos some fones hav no flight mode

?its called hijacking a plane wit passengers onboard

Na for you ooh! in as much as KWAM 1 action is condemnable and deserves retribution by law, does not in any stretch of imagination constitute an hijack!

Hijacking, as defined in aviation law, requires the unlawful seizure or exercise of control over an aircraft while it is in flight.

KWAM 1 was involved in an incident at the airport where he allegedly obstructed the aircraft's movement and had a heated exchange with airport officials.

KWAM 1's Actions:
KWAM 1 was involved in an incident at the airport where he allegedly obstructed the aircraft's movement and had a heated exchange with airport officials.

Not Onboard:
Crucially, KWAM 1 was not onboard the aircraft when the incident occurred.

Aviation Violations:
The Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) is investigating the incident as a potential violation of aviation regulations, not as hijacking.

Terrorism Allegations:
Some have labeled KWAM 1's actions as terrorism, but this is an overstatement, especially given that he was not on board the aircraft and did not take control of it.
In essence, while KWAM 1's actions were disruptive and potentially dangerous, they do not meet the legal definition of hijacking.

Pythagoras001:
Both sides were wrong. airline security were completely unprofessional (by posting the woman nudes online and the way she was restrained). they need proper training on ways to properly restrain an unruly passenger. they should have been there before any person disembark from the plane and should have gone straight to her seat and have her cuffed behind her back.
The final power lies in the flight crew. if she was asked to switch off her phones she must obey that order disobeying that lawfull order is an offence. it is irrelavant if the phone is put on flight mode or not. if the order was your phone should be switched off or put on flight mode. then you could do any.

I like this submission!
Nigerians are practically full of themselves - always wanting to teach others how to do their Jobs.
I have seen where Mike Tyson, Hulk Hogan and other highly rated Nollywood stars were compel to obey some outrageous instructions from s
Security operatives, Sales Reps and others who were not up to their standard. Even more shocking is the way they humbly submit themselves to arrest by symbol of authority!
No claiming of rights or wrongs. No flexing of muscles or screaming, "Do you know who I am?!"

But here in this lawless contraption, any little perceived power or acquired privilege is an Avenue to harass and run a circle around others.

bdon123:
It is relevant. All airlines operate under aviation law not airline laws.This is same everywhere around d world. If she did this abroad,she will be arrested n bailed.Bt u see wetin kwam 1 do?its called hijacking a plane wit passengers onboard.D aviation rules says flight mode or switch off.d reason for d or switch off is becos some fones hav no flight mode

yes they do operate under aviation law and it is not the same everywhere in the world although there are similarities. have you read the ncaa act 2022 section 85 and ncar section 17.97. ? i can send you relevant sections screenshot if needed.

Difrent:
[/quote]does not matter what cause he was fighting for he was uunruly and disrupted airline operations which is an offence. there are legal ways one can channel their grieviances which he could have explored

[quote author=Nairalander248 post=136426267]

i perfectly understand that putting your phone on flight mode is as good as putting your phone off. but the flight crew lawfull instructions to you are final.
i have seen someone who was forcefully removed from their seat and arrested for refusing to change seat when he was told to do so by the flight crew. he was seating on the row close to the emmergency exit and did not understand english.
read the prior post https://www.nairaland.com/8496044/ibom-air-fracas-other-passengers#136425850

But some bald headed vultures here said it was all staged for PO to look good. That the girl acted a script by just assaulting everyone including passengers.. spontaneously..maybe the crew members who pushed,held down and unclad the lady were also part of the plot...

Pythagoras001:
it is completely irrelavant now as there are envidence she disobeyed lawfull instruction from the flight crew and assualted/battered staff of the airline and airport.

It's completely irrelevant only in Nigeria where people think like you

Pythagoras001:
yes they do operate under aviation law and it is not the same everywhere in the world although there are similarities. have you read the ncaa act 2022 section 85 and ncar section 17.97. ? i can send you relevant sections screenshot if needed.

does not matter what cause he was fighting for he was uunruly and disrupted airline operations which is an offence. there are legal ways one can channel their grieviances which he could have explored

i perfectly understand that putting your phone on flight mode is as good as putting your phone off. but the flight crew lawfull instructions to you are final.
i have seen someone who was forcefully removed from their seat and arrested for refusing to change seat when he was told to do so by the flight crew. he was seating on the row close to the emmergency exit and did not understand english.
read the prior post https://www.nairaland.com/8496044/ibom-air-fracas-other-passengers#136425850

I am telling u local airlines do not force one to switch off....they accept flight mode.I wonder why hers was diff

The way the lady was manhandled exposing her bossom was unacceptable. There were female security officers at the airport that could have managed her situation.
Look, witnesses matter, it matters a lot in a criminal case or even assault cases. If these can be tendered, it will help her.

Her behavior was not good but I think the way they are going about it is even more depressing.

I hope this case can be closed as soon as possible.

Pythagoras001:
it is completely irrelavant now as there are envidence she disobeyed lawfull instruction from the flight crew and assualted/battered staff of the airline and airport.

Who told you that rubbish?

An eye witness is talking and you are talking rubbish, where you there?

Go and tell your government to arrest kwam 1 and serve justice to him

Ntigha:
Post by passenger has contradicted what the public was made to believe in the incident involving Ibom Air cabin crew and a passenger a passenger posted online what actually happened

According to a post by a passenger Tunde Ibrahim the Cabin crew got physical with the lady first by pushing her to her seat when she tried to get down after the aircraft landed.

“ I was on boardIt was the crew member that resisted the lady from coming down because of put off phone ar no put off phone.
The lady told the crew that her phone was already on flight mode
After landing they refused to allov the lady from coming down saying they have called the airport securi to pick her up.
Infact they push the lady back on seat for many of us to pass”

Truth is, when an airline staff or purser tells you to switch off your phone, they mean turn it off. You don't expect them to pry and determine it's on flight mode.

I have uncountless times seen passengers put their phones on flight mode when the express instruction is to turn it off.


We are just some difficult set of people and 1hr flight without operating your phone (which is without Internet or wireless connection anyway) can't hurt you.

And for the purser who blocked her, that was the height of risk. How can you back someone that is already agitated all in the name of delaying her for security personnel to come? She could have done something nasty that could endanger your life.

bdon123:
As per regulation jst incase u aint aware.phone should be switched off or put on flight mode.I have used my phone for music wit earphone on my ears severally wit no issues.i tink d cabin woman is arrogant plus d girl come be arrogant plus 2

When the plane is about to take off and about to land, the cabin crew insist that the phones are turned off. Even when you put it on flight mode, they will say that the frequency of the phones wavelength cld interfere with that of the plane.

But I noticed that anytime I fly on private jet, they don't ask to off the phone completely. I also noticed that the few times I have been on international flights, I wasn't asked to turn the phone off completely. It's always when I am on local flight.

So me I think that the flight attendant are just been overzealous asking people to outrightly turn off the phone during take off.

bdon123:
I am telling u local airlines do not force one to switch off....they accept flight mode.I wonder why hers was diff

you seem to be missing the point. The flight crew are the final authority on the aircraft. If 99 local airline do not require you to switch of your device is completely irrelevant here. The question is did she disobey orders from the flight crew to switch her phone off during take off or landing. If yes she committed an offence if no she did not. Did she assault/batter flight crew/airport security if yes she has committed an offence if no she has not. Ignorance of the law is no excuse that was why I pointed you in my previous post to read prior legislation and regulation. That the laws was not enforced on Mr A is not a defence when it is enforced on Mr B the only issue is that it is immoral and create the impression that some are above the law. I repeat again read the act and regulation I quoted earlier. Yes I know not switching off your phone does not affect air craft safety but You most obey all safety instructions from the flight crew refusal to do so is an offence.

edit:
ncar


(27) “Disruptive passenger” A passenger who fails to respect the rules
of conduct at an airport or on board an aircraft or to follow the instructions
of the airport staff or crew members and thereby disturbs the good order
and discipline at an airport or on board the aircraft ;


17.97. UNRULY PASSENGER.
17.97.1 Any passenger who becomes unruly at the airport terminal or
on board an Aircraft commits an offence.
17.97.2. The word “unruly” as used in this section refers to but is not
limited to, the following acts :
(a) Smoking on board an aircraft or in a non-smoking area of the terminal
building ;Access to Aerodrome Restricted Areas. Restriction on Entry into Enhanced Security Restricted areas and sterile area.
Submission to Screening.
B 2490
(b) Use of mobile phones and/or other communication/electronics
gadgets on board an aircraft without the approval of the aircraft
commander ;
(c) Fighting or other disorderly conduct on board an aircraft or at the
terminal building ;
(d) Any conduct/act constituting a nuisance to other passengers ;
(e) Disobedience of lawful instructions issued by the aircraft commander,
flight crew, cabin attendants, check-instaff and/or security screening staff ;
(f ) Any conduct that endangers or is likely to endanger the safety of
flight operations ;
(g) Tampering with smoke detectors and other aircraft equipment.
17.97.3. Where any passenger becomes unruly on board an aircraft or at
the terminal building, the aircraft commander or airport authority shall take
necessary measures including restraint where necessary :
(a) to protect the safety of the aircraft, terminal building or of persons
or property therein, or
(b) to maintain good order and discipline on board or at the terminal
building ; and
(c) to enable him deliver such person to competent authorities.



ncaa act 2022

85.—(1) Whoever while onboard an aircraft, interferes with a crew
member and such interference impedes the performance of the crew member’s
duties, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not more than
N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of at least two months or both.
(2) Any person who, assaults, intimidates, or threatens any flight crew
member or flight attendant, including any steward or stewardess of such aircraft
Interference
with crew
members.
Civil Aviation Act, 2022 2022 No. 30 A 957
or engages in an unruly behavior onboard such aircraft, commits an offence
and is liable on conviction to a fine of at least N200,000 or imprisonment for a
term of at least two months or both.
(3) Any person who, against instruction of the pilot-in-command or a
flight crew member or cabin crew, uses or operates any equipment or device
including mobile phone that may interfere with the aircraft radio frequency or
other navigational equipment onboard aircraft commits an offence and is liable
on conviction to a fine not more than N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of
at least two months or both.
(4) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall take such reasonable
measures as may be necessary to ensure the safety of the aircraft and
security of passengers on board whenever he is faced with an unruly
passenger behavior and may request the assistance of any person on board
the aircraft in that regard.

Factcheck0001:
Will this one come online and serve as witness in court?

If the answer is NO

This write up is useless

'Come online's and serve as 'witness in court'.
Court dey online so?

CJStarz:
'Come online's and serve as 'witness in court'.
Court dey online so?

u should know that's an error.

The one posting shit online will not come to court as witness

Pythagoras001:
you seem to be missing the point. The flight crew are the final authority on the aircraft. If 99 local airline do not require you to switch of your device is completely irrelevant here. The question is did she disobey orders from the flight crew to switch her phone off during take off or landing. If yes she committed an offence if no she did not. Did she assault/batter flight crew/airport security if yes she has committed an offence if no she has not. Ignorance of the law is no excuse that was why I pointed you in my previous post to read prior legislation and regulation. That the laws was not enforced on Mr A is not a defence when it is enforced on Mr B the only issue is that it is immoral and create the impression that some are above the law. I repeat again read the act and regulation I quoted earlier. Yes I know not switching off your phone does not affect air craft safety but You most obey all safety instructions from the flight crew refusal to do so is an offence.

edit:
ncar


(27) “Disruptive passenger” A passenger who fails to respect the rules
of conduct at an airport or on board an aircraft or to follow the instructions
of the airport staff or crew members and thereby disturbs the good order
and discipline at an airport or on board the aircraft ;


17.97. UNRULY PASSENGER.
17.97.1 Any passenger who becomes unruly at the airport terminal or
on board an Aircraft commits an offence.
17.97.2. The word “unruly” as used in this section refers to but is not
limited to, the following acts :
(a) Smoking on board an aircraft or in a non-smoking area of the terminal
building ;Access to Aerodrome Restricted Areas. Restriction on Entry into Enhanced Security Restricted areas and sterile area.
Submission to Screening.
B 2490
(b) Use of mobile phones and/or other communication/electronics
gadgets on board an aircraft without the approval of the aircraft
commander ;
(c) Fighting or other disorderly conduct on board an aircraft or at the
terminal building ;
(d) Any conduct/act constituting a nuisance to other passengers ;
(e) Disobedience of lawful instructions issued by the aircraft commander,
flight crew, cabin attendants, check-instaff and/or security screening staff ;
(f ) Any conduct that endangers or is likely to endanger the safety of
flight operations ;
(g) Tampering with smoke detectors and other aircraft equipment.
17.97.3. Where any passenger becomes unruly on board an aircraft or at
the terminal building, the aircraft commander or airport authority shall take
necessary measures including restraint where necessary :
(a) to protect the safety of the aircraft, terminal building or of persons
or property therein, or
(b) to maintain good order and discipline on board or at the terminal
building ; and
(c) to enable him deliver such person to competent authorities.



ncaa act 2022

85.—(1) Whoever while onboard an aircraft, interferes with a crew
member and such interference impedes the performance of the crew member’s
duties, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not more than
N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of at least two months or both.
(2) Any person who, assaults, intimidates, or threatens any flight crew
member or flight attendant, including any steward or stewardess of such aircraft
Interference
with crew
members.
Civil Aviation Act, 2022 2022 No. 30 A 957
or engages in an unruly behavior onboard such aircraft, commits an offence
and is liable on conviction to a fine of at least N200,000 or imprisonment for a
term of at least two months or both.
(3) Any person who, against instruction of the pilot-in-command or a
flight crew member or cabin crew, uses or operates any equipment or device
including mobile phone that may interfere with the aircraft radio frequency or
other navigational equipment onboard aircraft commits an offence and is liable
on conviction to a fine not more than N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of
at least two months or both.
(4) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall take such reasonable
measures as may be necessary to ensure the safety of the aircraft and
security of passengers on board whenever he is faced with an unruly
passenger behavior and may request the assistance of any person on board
the aircraft in that regard.

All this is grammer n google.u didnt hear that a passenger seated next to her collected her fone n switched it off to avoid further confrontation. Eye witness said she was talked to anyhow in d aircraft n they all left d plane bt she wasnt allowed off the plane.So apparently it seems she attacked d woman after being denied disembarkation.D woman said she slapped her bt nobody saw that one becos all passengers don leave plane.why was she held against her wish?she cld easily be arrested on her way to collect her luggage or outside d plane why embarass her like that

bdon123:
So for assaulting a cabin crew member,they naked her instead of jst asking her to coke down n directing her to security. Remember all d passengers hav disembarked so there was no way she wont come down at her destination. As far as m concerned, airport thugs were called to drag her down embarrassingly

Their was reported case of she slapping the air hostess first, I no dey their.

tanigororo:
Their was reported case of she slapping the air hostess first, I no dey their.

.
Yes that's wat d air hostess talk.Xcept no passenger was there to confirm this...how convenient. As per d account of fellow travellers,they said they tot it was a past argument till d babe was denied disembarkation drm d plane.so it means if actually did slap air hostess it was after she was detained by air hostess for her unruly behavior before flight take.

bdon123:
All this is grammer n google. u didnt hear that a passenger seated next to her collected her fone n switched it off to avoid further confrontation. Eye witness said she was talked to anyhow in d aircraft n they all left d plane bt she wasnt allowed off the plane.So apparently it seems she attacked d woman after being denied disembarkation.D woman said she slapped her bt nobody saw that one becos all passengers don leave plane.why was she held against her wish?she cld easily be arrested on her way to collect her luggage or outside d plane why embarass her like that

at this point i think you are deliberating deflecting. how is the bolded relevant to the offence which she herself has committed.

between the flight crew have every right to detain her and in my earlier post i talked about the proper way to restrain the passenger. and i repeat for emphasis the flight crew should have contacted air control before they landed security should have been waiting for the plane before it taxiied to a stop nobody would be allowed to disembark from the plane untill airport security has entered into the plane identified the lady and have are are cuffed so as to prevent the messy situation. Their delay and allowing people to disembark is probably was caused the entire fiasco

the point i initially made was that she commited several offences and she could be charged .
if she has video evidence or wittnesses that the flight attendant assualted/battered her she has the option to press charge against her for assault/battery .
she also can sue or bring criminal charges against the people who published/reshared or are in poession of her nude photos online . i made this point clear in an earlier post

for anyone who flies regularly please obey every safety instructions of the flight crew/ airport staff locally or internationally disobedience and been unruly is an offence.

if you feel agrrieved for any reason use all available legal channels at your disposal instead of taking laws into your own hands . everything no be by gra gra and this do you know who am i syndrome.

i rest my case

Justnation:
Who told you that rubbish?

An eye witness is talking and you are talking rubbish, where you there?

Go and tell your government to arrest kwam 1 and serve justice to him

no i was not there but from the video evidence in circulation especially the chocking of airport security staff and disobeying safety directives from the flight crew. no eye witness account can change that fact so it is irrelevant to the offence she herself have commited. yes i am of the view that kwam1 should be charged also and i also disagree with placing her on a lifetime no fly list that was excessive and should be challenged in court.

MadamExcellency:
Eye witnesses are coming up with evidence of her innocence and you are here being politically unreasonable. If her phone is on flight mode, it's practically off the radar without Airline's wifi.

She isn't innocent, she was told to switch her phone off, not asked to put it in aircraft mode. She then had to be repeatedly told to do so and still refused.

The airline was at fault stopping her getting off and dragging her out as it is the police that should do that. However to call the little rat innocent is going to far. Hopefully, next time she travels by road or sea, she doesn't have to switch her precious phone off then?

mascot87:
With that attitude she displayed, I pray you guys supporting her will marry such character as wife in Jesus name.

she is marry able a no nonsense lady and not a mumu or boolo