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Sicklebear28:
Ukraine has remained dogged. Kudos to the president for being steadfast. We don't tolerate bullying

MrPOTUS:
I no be zombie like you nah!

Make I carry people wey no know me for head?

Carry your zombism comote for my mention

WritterNg:
Nlfpmod Mynd44 Seun Mynd44 Nlfpmod

What's the difference between Foreign Volunteers & Foreign Soldiers?

Are the volunteers not soldiers? Or are they farmers??

And are the volunteers not US & Foreign Soldiers?

It says right there in the article that the Soldiers are Americans & Colombians, Taiwanese (foreigners).

You just hurriedly made a decision without even cross checking. Nairaland has lost it's steam. Disappointing.

HydraFeeds:
Gaslighter , your name is mr potus but you're abusing someone that post pro russia news . if you dont care about US president wey no sabi your pa pa for head , why you go dey bear him name ?

CaseSensitive:
Good questions and I'll answer them as shortly as I can.

The war is essentially a war between Russia and NATO but being fought on Ukrainian soil. Ukraine here is a proxy. Just like USA used Israel to launch an unprovoked attack against Iran recently. The West - (America, Britain etc) has been pushing Ukraine towards this goal gradually over the years, maybe since the end of the 2nd world war, the goal is to reshape public consciousness of Ukrainians to be Anti-Russia, even though they share more than border, they share deep interwoven history. USA once promised Russia that NATO would not move an inch eastwards (towards Russia), but they have assimilated Russia's closest neighbours (Latvia, Estonia etc) into NATO. At the Bucharest Summit in 2008, NATO leaders said "Ukraine will eventually join NATO". Which Russia rightly opposes. Though it can be argued that Ukraine is a sovereign nation who has the right to choose its allies but dinning with the West against a super power (Russia) as a neighbour is dangerous. It's more like - If you want to keep your enemy under control, make friends with its neighbour. Think of it this way, if Russia is a member of a military alliance similar to NATO, USA will have something to say if Russia extends membership to its neighbours like Mexico or Canada. That's part of what I meant in that sense that Zelensky is a puppet. I'll recommend a book called "The Inevitable - The Shocking Truth Behind The War in Ukraine" by Diana Panchenko.

To your second question, NATO hasn't tested any conventional weapon in Ukraine prior to the war, but American Britain and Canada has been training Ukrainian army years before the invasion, essentially preparing them for war against Russia. The massive weapons transfers people see now only began after Russia invaded in 2022, when NATO Allies have provided 99% of all military aid that Ukraine has received.

To your last question, The war could have been avoided through dialogue, Russia warned and warned, initially, the war could have been avoided if USA honour its word by not encircling Russia, let alone preparing Ukraine to join NATO. It's a threat to Russia's national security. If your enemy encircles you unprovoked, you will bite, it's common sense.

CaseSensitive:
Play stupid games, earn stupid prize. This is the prize you get for being a puppet and allowing NATO use your country as a weapon testing ground. Now you're gradually conceding the country to Russia. This is a war that could have been avoided before it even started.

lexy2014:
Thank you for your response. I appreciate.

1. According to you “The West - (America, Britain etc) has been pushing Ukraine towards this goal gradually over the years, maybe since the end of the 2nd world war”.

The second world war ended in 1945. At that time, there Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was one large country made up of many countries including Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Latvia, Belarus, Estonia and a few other countries.

The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. How then was the west pushing Ukraine toward being a military launch pad against Russia after world war 2 when both Ukraine and Russia were part of the Soviet Union up until 1991?

2. can you tell me when the USA once promised Russia that NATO would not move an inch eastwards (towards Russia)?

3. why is Ukraine dinning with the West against a super power (Russia) as a neighbour dangerous?

4. Finland shares border with Russia. Finland decided to join NATO after Ukraine was attacked by Russia. If preventing Ukaine from joining NATO was Putins reason for attacking Ukraine, why did he not attack Finland to also prevent NATO expansion right to its border with Finland?

5. you said that “NATO hasn't tested any conventional weapon in Ukraine prior to the war” but earlier, you claimed that


Are you contradicting yourself or are you trying to misinform others?

6. When did US ever promise not to encircle Russia?

7. Do you actually know the geography and the size of Russia before you came up with your claim of US “encircling” Russia?

8. How would ever been possible for US to “encircle”?

9. What was US going to “encircle” Russia with?

CaseSensitive:
Ok l'll address this again one by one.

1. Post–WW2 influence – Even though Ukraine was part of the USSR until 1991, the West’s anti-Soviet strategies which are propaganda, economic pressure, military buildup etc were already in motion, and after the collapse, those same policies shifted focus to former Soviet states, including Ukraine. Do you wonder why?

2. NATO promise – The US Secretary of State at the time - James Baker in discussions with Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 during German reunification talks, said NATO will not move one inch eastwards if the Soviets accepted a Unified Germany. I hope you know Germany was split into East and West at the time. Similar verbal assurances were actually made by German Chancellor at the time just to ensure that the Soviet accept a unified Germany. What happened to that assurance?

3. Danger of ‘dining with the West’ – Because aligning militarily with an adversary’s rival, especially when sharing a long border and history, invites retaliation especially given the deep rooted and interwoven history that Russia and Ukraine both shares.

4. Finland joined NATO after the Ukraine war began, not before, I said in my first reply that the West has been training Ukraine army, long before the invasion. Why should Russia open a second front against Finland while still engaged with Ukraine? That carries significant strategic risk. Also refer to number 3 of my response about the deep history Russia share with Ukraine, you can then maybe guess why Ukraine is strategic to the West's ambition.

5. No I'm not misinforming others or contradicting myself. There are expressions in English Language called "Figure of speech" The “Testing ground” I said here refers broadly to using Ukraine as a venue for proxy conflict, training, tactics, and assessing modern warfare systems in real combat, not just pre-war live tests of hardware. I mentioned that in my second paragraph of my earlier reply. We can use some metaphor. No?

6. Refer to number 2, you don't seem to keep track of the questions you're asking.

7&8. I indeed know the geography and size of Russia, encirclement here isn't literally surrounding Russia with bases on every side, but expanding NATO military presence in former Warsaw Pact and Soviet states, increasing pressure from multiple directions. I mean common we can use some discernment here and if you don't know about the Warsaw pact, read up on it.

9. Related to 7&8. Again, what encirclement means here are political (EU absorption of former Soviet Union members), military (NATO), and strategic positioning, not a perfect geographical ring, reducing Russia’s buffer zone. (Again, let's use our best judgement here).

CaseSensitive:
Play stupid games, earn stupid prize. This is the prize you get for being a puppet and allowing NATO use your country as a weapon testing ground.

CaseSensitive:
To your second question, NATO hasn't tested any conventional weapon in Ukraine prior to the war

CaseSensitive:
The war could have been avoided through dialogue, Russia warned and warned, initially, the war could have been avoided if USA honour its word by not encircling Russia