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Peacecore:
I'll not even say anything to you. I just stated how I feel when I see them.

Your thread asks......

Do roadside, motor park and street preaching really impact?

It is as simple as YES YES YES.

I have taken my time to check why you are not welcoming people preach publicly and what I find tells me that it is what Roman Catholic don't fancy because just like you have stated repeatedly it does not have impact. In fact Roman Catholic preach publicly adopting different style

achorladey:
The same person that is not in the business of validation is now calling the mission of those they pushed out of their own very denomination as failed mission.

Part of their mission gave you what you now know as the Bible in English

You mean the bible they met or you mean translation? Mind you, no one pushed them out. They chose the path they wanted to follow, and they were allowed to go. Look at Anglican today. We have Anglican of England and Anglican communion of Nigeria. We have Presbyterian orchestrated by Cartwright and etc all from their confusion, and more are still coming

achorladey:
Your thread asks......



It is as simple as YES YES YES.

I have taken my time to check why you are not welcoming people preach publicly and what I find tells me that it is what Roman Catholic don't fancy because just like you have stated repeatedly it does not have impact. In fact Roman Catholic preach publicly adopting different style

It's not a matter of being Roman Catholic. Are all the leaders of developed countries, Roman Catholics? Still they shun this method. There was an invent that happened in Lagos during COVID-19 where security forces dispersed worshippers for failing to observe social distancing. The governor made reference to Roman Catholic as one of the biggest churches that obeyed the rules but one thing you should know is that most of these churches even tagged it antichrist

Peacecore:
You're good but still need to encourage people under your care of orderliness.

You don't define what orderliness means regarding preaching since it is nowhere in the scriptures. That's where you need to start from. You don't dictate on things you don't have jurisdiction over.

I hope you understand what jurisdiction meanas it applies here on this matter.

Peacecore:
It's not a matter of being Roman Catholic. Are all the leaders of developed countries, Roman Catholics? Still they shun this method. There was an invent that happened in Lagos during COVID-19 where security forces dispersed worshippers for failing to observe social distancing. The governor made reference to Roman Catholic as one of the biggest churches that obeyed the rules but one thing you should know is that most of these churches even tagged it antichrist

You are a Roman catholic your bias evident on the matter because Catholics don't do it. I have given you Bible verses repeatedly how preaching was done. You kept arguing against it. I even cited a verse from the Bible without you knowing it was from the Bible, you didn't bother to check before you rejected as not true. When I showed you the exact Bible verse. You looked away without responding.

Those that started Anglican, protestant and pentecostals are all from Roman Catholic chased out of the religious denominations they belong because that's the same problem they faced that made them leave for their safety. They found so many things clearly written in the scriptures of which the religious leaders of the Roman catholic are not interested and don't do.

Peacecore:
Continue nah

Did you see me tell you I am going to stop or stopped already

Peacecore:
Your heart is strong in this no problem

In one of your post today you stated clearly Apostle Paul would readily behave like a prostitute to win souls through his preaching activities here you are holding others by the neck not to preach to people publicly because it does not dance to your tune or you just feel they are shouting.

Peacecore:
It started with protesters rather, and they had an agenda.

Protesters saw what is good that the bible says is good and the Roman Catholic say they are not allowed to do. The protesters know the bible states should they fail to do what is good, it is a sin. Roman catholic say should you do it, we will brand you as heretics, apostates and subject you to inquisition and the rest. Yet you want me to accept the protesters have agenda. Roman catholic too have their own agenda in the first place that's why you have protesters.

Peacecore:
You mean the bible they met or you mean translation? Mind you, no one pushed them out. They chose the path they wanted to follow, and they were allowed to go. Look at Anglican today. We have Anglican of England and Anglican communion of Nigeria. We have Presbyterian orchestrated by Cartwright and etc all from their confusion, and more are still coming

Many of the Bible translation you have today is the work of those you call protesters. Those confusion was given birth to by the Roman Catholic.

Peacecore:
It's not a matter of being Roman Catholic. Are all the leaders of developed countries, Roman Catholics? Still they shun this method. There was an invent that happened in Lagos during COVID-19 where security forces dispersed worshippers for failing to observe social distancing. The governor made reference to Roman Catholic as one of the biggest churches that obeyed the rules but one thing you should know is that most of these churches even tagged it antichrist

You are ready to invalidate religious organization that is organized and the one not organized


Speaking from both sides of your mouth. Many religious denomination apart from the catholic followed COVID - 19 guidelines without hearing PIM. Spare me your religious denominations being organized

@Peacecore see the below.......

In a significant shift, the Catholic Church, under Pope Francis, has approved the possibility of blessings for same-sex couples, though not within the context of marriage or liturgical rituals. This decision, outlined in the document "Fiducia Supplicans," allows priests to offer blessings to couples in "irregular situations," including same-sex relationships, provided the blessing does not resemble a marriage ceremony. The Vatican emphasizes that these blessings are not an endorsement of homosexuality or same-sex unions, but rather a way to extend God's mercy and love to all individuals.

Preaching publicly in the market place and raising voices while doing so is more weighty than the above.


You see all this hard-core lover of their religious denominations hardly see the hypocrisy they peddle until you point it out to them to their very face. They don't see public preaching in the market place and related places as way to extend God's mercy love to all individuals who cannot be reached in their homes

Still street noise making in the name of preaching is unchristian! Matthew 12:19

Says the adherent of a religious organization whose early years thrive on same NOISEMAKING and being NOISEMAKERS

God's prophets in the Old Testament makes noise in the streets of Israel but in the New Testament God told his prophets not to make noise in the streets rather they are to speak to individuals who wants to listen!

Compare and contrast!

achorladey:
@Peacecore see the below.......



Preaching publicly in the market place and raising voices while doing so is more weighty than the above.


You see all this hard-core lover of their religious denominations hardly see the hypocrisy they peddle until you point it out to them to their very face. They don't see public preaching in the market place and related places as way to extend God's mercy love to all individuals who cannot be reached in their homes

Thank God you highlighted and understand what the Late Pope meant, so no further comment on that. His points were clear and honourable.

achorladey:
You are ready to invalidate religious organization that is organized and the one not organized


Speaking from both sides of your mouth. Many religious denomination apart from the catholic followed COVID - 19 guidelines without hearing PIM. Spare me your religious denominations being organized

If you try to argue it I'll dig it out and poat here for yoi to see.

achorladey:
Many of the Bible translation you have today is the work of those you call protesters. Those confusion was given birth to by the Roman Catholic.

So their only contribution was to change languages which the Catholic gathered the bible with. It's well. They should also try to replace the ones they excluded to make it complete

achorladey:
Protesters saw what is good that the bible says is good and the Roman Catholic say they are not allowed to do. The protesters know the bible states should they fail to do what is good, it is a sin. Roman catholic say should you do it, we will brand you as heretics, apostates and subject you to inquisition and the rest. Yet you want me to accept the protesters have agenda. Roman catholic too have their own agenda in the first place that's why you have protesters.

It's either you don't know or hiding the history . You should read about it and come back. Go and read the reason for creation of Anglican church, and who the supreme leader was.

achorladey:
In one of your post today you stated clearly Apostle Paul would readily behave like a prostitute to win souls through his preaching activities here you are holding others by the neck not to preach to people publicly because it does not dance to your tune or you just feel they are shouting.

Nor matter how you want to whitewash this method, it's not honorable guy.

achorladey:
You are a Roman catholic your bias evident on the matter because Catholics don't do it. I have given you Bible verses repeatedly how preaching was done. You kept arguing against it. I even cited a verse from the Bible without you knowing it was from the Bible, you didn't bother to check before you rejected as not true. When I showed you the exact Bible verse. You looked away without responding.

Those that started Anglican, protestant and pentecostals are all from Roman Catholic chased out of the religious denominations they belong because that's the same problem they faced that made them leave for their safety. They found so many things clearly written in the scriptures of which the religious leaders of the Roman catholic are not interested and don't do.

Is this the lies you tell your members about the church history? King Henry was against that protester, Martin Luther that he even wrote against him until tge the Pope refused to annul his marriage with Catherine, then he decided to use his political power to achieve his aim but the church has also been bigger than them that it cost his aid that was at the centre of the affair his job. You can lie to the newbies

achorladey:
You don't define what orderliness means regarding preaching since it is nowhere in the scriptures. That's where you need to start from. You don't dictate on things you don't have jurisdiction over.

I hope you understand what jurisdiction meanas it applies here on this matter.

So native doctors also should have the jurisdiction to carry their shrines to the market places, right? Keep playing!

Peacecore:
Is this the lies you tell your members about the church history? King Henry was against that protester, Martin Luther that he even wrote against him until tge the Pope refused to annul his marriage with Catherine, then he decided to use his political power to achieve his aim but the church has also been bigger than them that it cost his aid that was at the centre of the affair his job. You can lie to the newbies

You are still running around the bush on what you admitted already that all of them originated from Roman Catholic. Why are they called protestants. They are protesting against what their church aka Roman Catholic was doing and just like you said.....

The church is bigger than them they were eventually kicked out. See this below again and tell me the lies there

Those that started Anglican, protestant and pentecostals are all from Roman Catholic chased out of the religious denominations they belong because that's the same problem they faced that made them leave for their safety. They found so many things clearly written in the scriptures of which the religious leaders of the Roman catholic are not interested and don't do

Peacecore:
So native doctors also should have the jurisdiction to carry their shrines to the market places, right? Keep playing!

Who says they don't or whose constitution says they can't preach their religion wherever they want to? Traditional religion is nothing to you because you are a Christian right. What a pity!

Peacecore:
Nor matter how you want to whitewash this method, it's not honorable guy.

Whitewash peddling comes from your regimented mindset. It is not from the Bible you carry. Calling it dishonourable is equally not from the Bible. This show protesters emanate from Roman Catholic because you only need to hammer your authority not to do things even when the Bible you carry says nothing is wrong or dishonourable about it. Na small small e dey start

Peacecore:
Thank God you highlighted and understand what the Late Pope meant, so no further comment on that. His points were clear and honourable.

It is not honorable, mercy and a loving thing to do to preach in market places in the eyes and ears of your Pope

Peacecore:
If you try to argue it I'll dig it out and poat here for yoi to see.

Argue inconsequential things when I know thousands of other religious denominations followed guidelines and don't go about seeking validation or using it as means to elevate themselves as being better than others in terms of being organised how well they follow it form the government and government agencies.

Are you a toddler?

Keep whatever recognition Catholic got from that in your pocket.

Peacecore:
So their only contribution was to change languages which the Catholic gathered the bible with. It's well. They should also try to replace the ones they excluded to make it complete

Looool. Not only and one and only

their only contribution was to change languages

The ones they excluded is the one Jesus stated the greatest commandment of all abi?

Peacecore:
Nor matter how you want to whitewash this method, it's not honorable guy.

True preaching should allow for question and answer before it could be impactful for real nobody can say what a street preacher said is convincing enough to change his former beliefs or conduct. You must ask questions about certain things and get convincing answer {Proverbs 1:5; 2:2-5 compare to Matthew 7:7-8} before you can start thinking of how to change. In fact you still need help further to make needed changes.

WHY?

Because street preachers aren't of the same sect if you can ask them the same question you will get different answers so how can such be impactful for real when there is no follow up on what you heard?

Paul said to Barnabas:
“Let us now return and visit the brothers in every one of the cities where we proclaimed the word of Jehovah, to see how they are.” Act 15:36

How many can say he got a return visit after hearing these noisemakers?
Paul and Barnabas were going back to see how those who received their messages are doing.
Why?
Because these new converts need help to put what they heard into practice:
For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. Romans 2:13
However, become doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning. James 1:22

Jesus sent us out to preach {Matthew 10:11-13} and teach {Matthew 28:20} as we lead by examples those who heard us will be convinced that what they heard is PRACTICAL:

Paul told Timothy:

Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, so that your advancement may be plainly seen by all people. Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you. 1Timothy 4:15-16

After preaching we must lead by example so that what we preach can be real to those who heard it this is how they can fully understand and be saved!

MaxInDHouse:
True preaching should allow for question and answer before it could be impactful for real nobody can say what a street preacher said is convincing enough to change his former beliefs or conduct. You must ask questions about certain things and get convincing answer {Proverbs 1:5; 2:2-5 compare to Matthew 7:7-8} before you can start thinking of how to change. In fact you still need help further to make needed changes.

WHY?

Because street preachers aren't of the same sect if you can ask them the same question you will get different answers so how can such be impactful for real when there is no follow up on what you heard?

Paul said to Barnabas:
“Let us now return and visit the brothers in every one of the cities where we proclaimed the word of Jehovah, to see how they are.” Act 15:36

How many can say he got a return visit after hearing these noisemakers?
Paul and Barnabas were going back to see how those who received their messages are doing.
Why?
Because these new converts need help to put what they heard into practice:
For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. Romans 2:13
However, become doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning. James 1:22

Jesus sent us out to preach {Matthew 10:11-13} and teach {Matthew 28:20} as we lead by examples those who heard us will be convinced that what they heard is PRACTICAL:

Paul told Timothy:

Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, so that your advancement may be plainly seen by all people. Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you. 1Timothy 4:15-16

After preaching we must lead by example so that what we preach can be real to those who heard it this is how they can fully understand and be saved!

How can they go back to unidentified passerbys? People that didn't listen? His heart is made up anyway.

achorladey:
Looool. Not only and one and only



The ones they excluded is the one Jesus stated the greatest commandment of all abi?

Well, you know them. I don't know why someone substracts from what he didn't create. It's a way deceiving their followers sha that they've brought a change

achorladey:
Argue inconsequential things when I know thousands of other religious denominations followed guidelines and don't go about seeking validation or using it as means to elevate themselves as being better than others in terms of being organised how well they follow it form the government and government agencies.

Are you a toddler?

Keep whatever recognition Catholic got from that in your pocket.

Well, you're well informed to know about it. Dave Umahi even used cane on them which was a shame

achorladey:
It is not honorable, mercy and a loving thing to do to preach in market places in the eyes and ears of your Pope

I couldn't see the correlation anyway. Keep it up, maybe you'll hear it from another person - maybe Nwangbafor