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Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 5:10pm On Aug 12, 2025

Emusan:
This is the issue.

My reply was the cumulative of what I know that transpired between you and him.

If this is what you want, then I read his reply to FX about how he used two NEGATIVE words to show what he meant. Well I don't have much to say on that.

I will advise you to focus on your thread and don't stretch much on this.

False accusations is a strong word, remember you also claimed "AI default program favors TRINITY" which is also false.

Should AI demand apology for this or will you be willing to tender an apology to AI?

To me this is just misunderstanding that needs not to be stretched.

I called you for a specific purpose, you left it and started discussing another thing. Do you people do this to protect lies or what?

How can you people understand scripture when simple things are difficult for you.

Nobody is interested in if what I said is true or false. Upon all my explanation it is still difficult. I cannot be deceived by double negatives. AI said it in the video where he was tagged a deceit. I understood what he said even without the AI backup.

See another example here.

A. I wrote: Emusan

B. Someone came and said: that I denied the fact that what I wrote on the isn't Emusan.

Read it carefully and tell me if what I wrote in A is the same thing someone said in B. Are they the same? You can answer these questions to know if they are the same.

1. what did I denied?
2. Say If what I wrote isn't Emusan?

When you answer these questions you will understand that it is a false accusation. Nobody is interested in if Emusan is black, white, or yellow.

Then you can go back to that page where I called you and see it clearly.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Emusan(m): 5:35pm On Aug 12, 2025

Boomark:
I called you for a specific purpose, you left it and started discussing another thing.

You're too funny.

I made it clear in my reply to FX.

Yes! You called me and I didn't discussed that but I discussed what I observed, reason why I never replied your mentions.

Or did I?

Do you people do this to protect lies or what?

You're being emotional

How can you people understand scripture when simple things are difficult for you.

Okay the most knowledgeable person in world.

Nobody is interested in if what I said is true or false.

But you're interested in what others say as false.

Upon all my explanation it is still difficult.

Difficult for who?

I cannot be deceived by double negatives. AI said it in the video where he was tagged a deceit. I understood what he said even without the AI backup.

See another example here.

A. I wrote: Emusan

B. Someone came and said: that I denied the fact that what I wrote on the isn't Emusan.

Read it carefully and tell me if what I wrote in A is the same thing someone said in B. Are they the same? You can answer these questions to know if they are the same.

1. what did I denied?
2. Say If what I wrote isn't Emusan?

When you answer these questions you will understand that it is a false accusation. Nobody is interested in if Emusan is black, white, or yellow.

Then you can go back to that page where I called you and see it clearly.

This is a petty issue focus on your thread.

Or was this part of the point you're scoring yourself?

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 6:38pm On Aug 12, 2025*

Image123

Focus on this lie you told here and tell us who is the God of God the Father. Leave Emusan to speak for himself.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123#136310247

You can use double negative to deny that you didn't write such a thing so as to deceive people. Maybe I manipulated it with AI. So tell us.

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Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Image123(m): 8:20pm On Aug 12, 2025

Boomark:
Round 7 Result

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 point

Image123: 0 points for any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring)
Boomark: 0

Final score

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 points

Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ah82EiNlzfQ?si=MVy7WGR0jcr4o8B9

Image123

Lolz, here again is the same AI saying i won for the umpteenth time. Blame it or me cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLjyYkRh2KU

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 9:52pm On Aug 12, 2025

Image123:
Round 8

Subtopic: Jesus has divine titles that no other man has, making Him God.

CLAIM:

Jesus Christ, the Son of God is referred to by various titles that prove Him to be divinity. The Son Jesus is God. Reading through scriptures, you see Him called, The Word was God, Emmanuel which means "God with us", Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, which denotes eternal, divine nature.

Rebuttal

The claim that Jesus' titles prove he is Almighty God fails because many so-called divine titles are also used for others in scripture.

All the titles that Jesus has was given to him by God the Father. Jesus became a Mighty God because it is the zeal of God the Father (Yahweh) to make him so, not because he is God himself (Isaiah 9:6-7).

Even if he was called "God," there are others who are divine that the scripture called "Gods" without making them equal to the Almighty God. Just as human judges were called "gods"(Psalm 82:6), so also God made Jesus a Mighty God to judge all (John 5:22). God the Father made Moses a God to Pharaoh and he never became equal to his God because of that title (Exodus 7:1). Jesus distinguishes the Father as the only true God. The Father is God over all who are called God and not their equal (1 Corinthians 8:4-6).

The head of Christ is God so Christ cannot be equal to his head. He said himself that the Father is greater than I. The name Emmanuel means God is with us through Jesus, not that Jesus is God the Father himself (John 14:10).

Deuteronomy 10:17 is talking about the Father who is the God of gods and Lord of lords. The Father can make others lord as he did for Joseph. He also made Jesus Lord and messiah by God his God. He is the God of Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:12).

In Revelation, the title “Alpha and Omega” is applied to God (Revelation 1:8; 21:6) and also used of Christ in the sense of His role in salvation history — given by the Father (John 5:26-27).

Holiness doesn’t equal being God. We are also encouraged in the bible to live be holy.

Therefore, this subtopic fails to establish the Trinity but supports the truth that the Father is One God over all.

Key verses:

Genesis 45:8 NIV
[8] “So then, it was not you who sent me here, but God. He made me father to Pharaoh, lord of his entire household and ruler of all Egypt.

John 5:22 NIV
[22] Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

Genesis 45:9 NIV
[9] Now hurry back to my father and say to him, ‘This is what your son Joseph says: God has made me lord of all Egypt. Come down to me; don’t delay.

Acts 2:36 NIV
[36] “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

John 5:26-27 HCSB
[26] For just as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has granted to the Son to have life in Himself. [27] And He has granted Him the right to pass judgment, because He is the Son of Man.

Psalms 82:6 YLT98
[6] I — I have said, ‘Gods ye [are], And sons of the Most High — all of you,

Exodus 7:1 NKJV
[1] So the Lord said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.

Matthew 1:23 HCSB
[23] See, the virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and they will name Him Immanuel, which is translated “God is with us.”

John 14:10 HCSB
[10] Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own. The Father who lives in Me does His works.

Deuteronomy 10:17 HCSB
[17] For the Lord your God is the God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, mighty, and awesome God, showing no partiality and taking no bribe.

Isaiah 9:6-7 LSB
[6] For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. [7] There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of Yahweh of hosts will accomplish this.

John 17:22 LSB
[22] The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;

John 14:28 LSB
[28] You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

1 Corinthians 11:3 LSB
[3] But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

John 17:3 LSB
[3] And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

1 Peter 1:16 LSB
[16] because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.

Daniel 2:37 LSB
[37] You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength, and the glory;

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 10:20pm On Aug 12, 2025

Boomark:
Image123

Focus on this lie you told her and tell us who is the God of God the Father. Leave Emusan to speak for himself.

https://www.nairaland.com/8486945/bible-challenge-trinity-boomark-image123#136310247

You can use double negative to deny that you didn't write such a thing so as to deceive people. Maybe I manipulated it with AI. So tell us.

Please remember this. It is important.

Or you simply tell us you didn't know when you talked out of point. It is an insult to God the Father.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 11:02pm On Aug 12, 2025

Image123:
Lolz, here again is the same AI saying i won for the umpteenth time. Blame it or me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLjyYkRh2KU

Both you and your AI are talking out of point.

Screenshots

1. Subtopic: Jesus Christ is a prophet of God.

2. You support the subtopic. It was unopposed. But went and started talking out of point. You left rebuttal and started talking about other things Jesus was called.

3. (i), My subtopic aligned with the main topic.
And I successfully proved that Jesus Christ is a prophet of God.

(ii) While you successfully proved his divinity. And your AI gave you a win because I didn't leave the subtopic we are discussing to discuss divinity. So you won because of divinity and not because you countered the subtopic?

You have infected your AI with out of point syndrome. Have you seen any mistake in my own results?

4. This was how I started my own on a fresh page with that instruction and the rules alone. After each round I copy the claim and rebuttal with the instructions and paste. I have shown you how to do it but things are difficult for you to understand. Even the awarding points I told you to remove because I don't use it. You think it is everything you see you copy and paste.

Finally, what you called rebuttal was not a rebuttal but a support for my claim followed by an off point essay .

You can't win without opposing me. Know this and know the truth.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 12:12am On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
In all honesty, Boomark posited that ChatGPT does favour Trinity, while Image123 claimed It doesn't.

Image123, please kindly admit as a true child of God that you wrongly accused Boomark. I know it might be an oversight. It wouldn't have been deliberate but be mature enough to admit it and apologize.

I must commend image123 for the good efforts he has put into the discussion and all his contributions so far. However, I would want him to honorably admit his wrong and thereby continue gaining the trust and respect of readers.

Personally, I can attest to it that ChatGPT favours the Trinity doctrine. It is trained in whatever is popular. The Trinity doctrine is more popular than the no-Trinity doctrine.

I'll counsel my brother, Image123 to apologize to Boomark in the spirit of love and Christian brotherhood.

However, I would advise my brother, Boomark to stop making absolute assertions on the matter. Calling the Trinity doctrine a false doctrine when you are yet to prove it so, is uncultured.

I still have a lot to show you from the Scriptures once you're done with Image123. Do not make definitive remarks because the Scriptures say of us: And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 1 Corinthians 8:2.

I know what I am saying my brother.

See how this trinitarian Gabrielshow24 mocked Jesus Christ while trying to defend Trinity. He didn't know there was no escape for him for being either against me or against Christ.

He tried to push the false dichotomy to me until I showed him that he is still against Christ. He is telling us that asking people, "do you believe in what Jesus and his words?" After claiming he is intelligent, he failed woefully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OdAWggZAU?si=zkzyF2lZhGOqq2Jq

There are many others like him who ignored and refused to believe Christ. They opposed me as people who have another master. I know the one they are serving and I have already told them.

https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood/4#136398543

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 8:24am On Aug 13, 2025

Boomark:
I know what I am saying my brother.

See how this trinitarian Gabrielshow24 mocked Jesus Christ while trying to defend Trinity. He didn't know there was no escape for him for being either against me or against Christ.

He tried to push the false dichotomy to me until I showed him that he is still against Christ. He is telling us that asking people, "do you believe in what Jesus and his words?" After claiming he is intelligent, he failed woefully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OdAWggZAU?si=zkzyF2lZhGOqq2Jq

There are many others like him who ignored and refused to believe Christ. They opposed me as people who have another master. I know the one they are serving and I have already told them.

https://www.nairaland.com/8484151/bible-challenge-prove-trinity-falsehood/4#136398543

I believe they're thinking the same of you, my brother.

You don't need to address them they way you did.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a Bible truth. The evidence of Scripture is indisputable. I serve the Lord Christ, abd His power is manifest in and through me in all His fullness. And this Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old.

The truths of Scripture are the gems of the Kingdom. You can't get them by mere surface study. These are the deep things of God. God by His nature is a triune Being but your inner eyes needs be opened before you can see that in Scripture. If you deal by Revelation, you will see. If you deal by mere sense knowledge, you will never see. It is the Spirit of God that reveals the deep things of God.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 12:36pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
I believe they're thinking the same of you, my brother.

You don't need to address them they way you did.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a Bible truth. The evidence of Scripture is indisputable. I serve the Lord Christ, abd His power is manifest in and through me in all His fullness. And this Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old.
.

Did Jesus Christ teach you that God is triune spirit beings?
John 4:24. John 5:37,43 ,John 13:16 & Hebrew6:13.
Oga stop deceiving yourself.

FxMasterz:
The truths of Scripture are the gems of the Kingdom. You can't get them by mere surface study. These are the deep things of God. God by His nature is a triune Being but your inner eyes needs be opened before you can see that in Scripture. If you deal by Revelation, you will see. If you deal by mere sense knowledge, you will never see. It is the Spirit of God that reveals the deep things of God.

Jesus Christ teach you hierarchy in heaven @ Revelation 1:1 ,Revelation 3:5,12.
Oga, stop cleaving to man made conjectures built on human philosophies.
From Genesis to Revelation, Jesus Christ is not a Trinitarian.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 12:42pm On Aug 13, 2025

Emusan:
This is the issue.

My reply was the cumulative of what I know that transpired between you and him.

If this is what you want, then I read his reply to FX about how he used two NEGATIVE words to show what he meant. Well I don't have much to say on that.

I will advise you to focus on your thread and don't stretch much on this.

False accusations is a strong word, remember you also claimed "AI default program favors TRINITY" which is also false.

Should AI demand apology for this or will you be willing to tender an apology to AI?

To me this is just misunderstanding that needs not to be stretched.

The same A.I that taught Emusan that Jesus Christ is the first born ,created by God.
Emusan AI post screenshot.
grin

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 12:43pm On Aug 13, 2025

Janosky:
Did Jesus Christ teach you that God is triune spirit beings?
John 4:24. John 5:37,43 ,John 13:16 & Hebrew6:13.
Oga stop deceiving yourself.[/b]

Jesus Christ teach you hierarchy in heaven @ Revelation 1:1 ,Revelation 3:5,12.
Oga, stop cleaving to man made conjectures built on human philosophies.
From Genesis to Revelation, Jesus Christ is not a Trinitarian.

There's nothing to teach you. So, please stop mentioning me, because when you are shown the truth verbatim, you'll always look the other way and abandon the thread while you continue in your own delusions.

I'll like to discuss with Truth seekers only. Not those who love their own lies and have made liars their gods.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 12:49pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
There's nothing to teach you. So, please stop mentioning me, because when you are shown the truth verbatim, you'll always look the other way and abandon the thread while you continue in your own delusions.

I'll like to discuss with Truth seekers only. Not those who love their own lies and have made liars their gods.

Jesus taught me John 4:24 " God is a Spirit " being.

FxMasters: "God is triune beings."
Oga,John 4:24 is not in your heart.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 12:57pm On Aug 13, 2025

Janosky:
Jesus taught me John 4:24 " God is a Spirit " being.

FxMasters: "God is triune beings."
Oga,John 4:24 is not in your heart.
Stop deceiving yourself.

So, Jesus is not currently a Spirit Being? This your lopsided thinking regarding Scriptures is why you misinterpret and mis represent Scriptures. Jesus is now a Spirit Being, and has always been until the WORD BECAME FLESH and DWELT AMONG MEN. The Word was not always flesh. It BECAME FLESH.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 1:14pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
So, Jesus is not currently a Spirit Being? This your lopsided thinking regarding Scriptures is why you misinterpret and mis represent Scriptures.

Don't project your false claim on Janosky.
You don't want to allow John 4:24 to stay in your heart.
Oga, continue deceiving yourself.

FxMasterz:
Jesus is now a Spirit Being, and has always been until the WORD BECAME FLESH and DWELT AMONG MEN. The Word was not always flesh. It BECAME FLESH.

John 4:24 & John 5:37,43,John 14:28 God the Almighty spirit is greater than Jesus in the spirit realm.
God the Almighty Spirit NEVER became flesh.
Please allow John 4:24 , John 5:37 & Romans 8:3 to stay in your heart.
Oga,please don't be deceiving yourself.

FxMasterz:
this Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old.
.

John 4:24 , John 14:28 & John 5:37,43, Jesus said your Bible is against your false claim.

Jehovah God the Almighty Spirit is the Father (SENIOR), greater than Jesus Christ his only begotten son.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 1:16pm On Aug 13, 2025

Janosky:
Don't project your false claim on Janosky.
You don't want to allow John 4:24 to stay in your heart.
Oga, continue deceiving yourself [/b]

Jesus is now a Spirit Being, and has always been until the WORD BECAME FLESH and DWELT AMONG MEN. The Word was not always flesh. It BECAME FLESH.

John 4:24 & John 5:37,43,John 14:28 God the Almighty spirit is greater than Jesus in the spirit realm.
God the Almighty Spirit NEVER became flesh.
Please allow John 4:24 , John 5:37 & Romans 8:3 to stay in your heart.
Oga,please don't be deceiving yourself.

Was the Word plastic before it became Flesh?

Even if the Word was a god before it became Flesh, is a god plastic?

Answer me!

Jesus became flesh for a while and returned to being Spirit as He is today. You false prophets even calm Him a mighty Spirit King.

Your assumption was that Jesus is not God because God is Spirit. Now, do you agree that Jesus is Spirit? Nobody is asking you about greater spirits. You didn't say God is greater spirit.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 1:24pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
I believe they're thinking the same of you, my brother.

You don't need to address them they way you did.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a Bible truth. The evidence of Scripture is indisputable. I serve the Lord Christ, abd His power is manifest in and through me in all His fullness. And this Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old.

The truths of Scripture are the gems of the Kingdom. You can't get them by mere surface study. These are the deep things of God. God by His nature is a triune Being but your inner eyes needs be opened before you can see that in Scripture. If you deal by Revelation, you will see. If you deal by mere sense knowledge, you will never see. It is the Spirit of God that reveals the deep things of God.

The doctrine of trinity is falsehood that is target against God by satan and the antichrist.

Let them continue thinking of me the same way while they continue rejecting Jesus' words. At least I have proven they are doing the will of the antichrist by rejecting the words of Jesus Christ.

Meanwhile the bolded up there is wrong. I will soon make you people see your errors. We can discuss it somewhere else or you can make a claim here and I will counter it.

Any spirit that reveal things that make people to reject the words of Jesus Christ is from satan. Those who don't continue with what Jesus Christ said does not have God. He came and told us what God said through him, the will of God.

2 John 1:9 HCSB
[9]Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.

You go beyond to form a name(Trinity) and doctrine for yourselves. Something Christ never taught and is not found anywhere in the scripture. You think God forgot to say it through Christ.

If you have left these Christ sayings and teachings or twisted any of them, you don't have God:
1. The Father is greater than I, (John 14:28). Instead you people make him equal to God.
2. The Father is My God and your God, (John 20:17, Revelation 3:12)
3. I have come to do the will of my God, (Psalm 40:7-8, Hebrew 10:5-7)
4. Pray to the Father, (. John 16:23-27, Matthew 6:6-9)
5. Worship God the Father in spirit and truth, (John 4:21-26). The Messiah explained it, Vs 26.
6. Make them one just as we are one. (Join 17:21-22)
7. The Father is the only true God, (John 17:3).
8. I come from God. (John 16:27,30).

If you have turned away from these things to believe a certain revelation from any spirit, the scripture said it clearly that you don't have God. And you don't also have the Son of God. You have abandoned what the Holy spirit inspired and is written in black and white to follow personal revelation.

See those who have abandoned the will of God revealed through Christ and have been missled and deceived by prophecies, casting of demons, signs and wonders.

Matthew 7:21-23 HCSB
[21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ [23] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’

See the condition to enter the kingdom of God in bold. You can't reject God's word that came through Jesus Christ and still want to enter his kingdom. Did you see how those people think they were pleasing Christ but Christ turned them towards God the Father's will?

Those who disregard the words of Jesus Christ don't have God. They don't also have Christ.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 1:45pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
Was the Word plastic before it became Flesh?

Even if the Word was a god before it became Flesh, is a god plastic?

Answer me!

Jesus became flesh for a while and returned to being Spirit as He is today. You false prophets even calm Him a mighty Spirit King.
.

Oga, are you missing the message of John 4:24 & John 5:37,43?
Yes.
According to Jesus, Jehovah God the Almighty Spirit NEVER became Flesh.
Jesus his son another spirit being became flesh, confirmed by Romans 8:3.
This fact is not rocket science nau.

FxMasterz:
Your assumption was that Jesus is not God because God is Spirit. Now, do you agree that Jesus is Spirit? Nobody is asking you about greater spirits. You didn't say God is greater spirit.

Oga, your own Bible @Hebrew 6:13, 1 Corinthians 11:3,John 14:28. Ephesians 4:6,Oga record this scripture into your brain.

Oga,Your own Bible says Jehovah God the Almighty Spirit Being is GREATER THAN Jesus and ALL spirit beings.
Oga,Allow this Bible truth into your heart.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 2:00pm On Aug 13, 2025

Boomark:
The doctrine of trinity is falsehood that is target against God by satan and the antichrist.

No, the doctrine of God not being a trinity is falsehood that is target against God by satan and the antichrist.

Let them continue thinking of me the same way while they continue rejecting Jesus' words. At least I have proven they are doing the will of the antichrist by rejecting the words of Jesus Christ.

But they'll be right to think of you so because you're actually the one rejecting the Words of the Lord Jesus.

Meanwhile the bolded up there is wrong. I will soon make you people see your errors. We can discuss it somewhere else or you can make a claim here and I will counter it.

It's the other way round my brother, I'll make you see your errors rather.

Any spirit that reveal things that make people to reject the words of Jesus Christ is from satan. Those who don't continue with what Jesus Christ said does not have God. He came and told us what God said through him, the will of God.

Absolutely correct. The doctrine of God not being a Trinity fits very well into this narrative.

2 John 1:9 HCSB
[9]Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.

And Christ's teaching is that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.

You go beyond to form a name(Trinity) and doctrine for yourselves. Something Christ never taught and is not found anywhere in the scripture. You think God forgot to say it through Christ.

A name could have been formed but not a doctrine. The doctrine itself is fully grounded and established in Scripture.

If you have left these Christ sayings and teachings or twisted any of them, you don't have God:

Apparently applies to you.

1. The Father is greater than I, (John 14:28). Instead you people make him equal to God.
We didn't. The manifestation in the flesh cannot be as the real Glory in the Spirit. So, the sayings of Christ is true that the Father is greater than Jim but the Father is the One who manifested as the Son in a much lesser form than His real self to serve a purpose. An a for that acts an ape in a movie is greater than the ape he is acting, isn't it? Jesus was was the Father acting on earth.

"[b]And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory," 1 Timothy 3:16.

2. The Father is My God and your God, (John 20:17, Revelation 3:12)

Absolutely, the same way the Actor is the man of the ape he is acting as well as the man of everyone around the ape.

3. I have come to do the will of my God, (Psalm 40:7-8, Hebrew 10:5-7)

Jesus is God's Word and God's Word is God's Will.

4. Pray to the Father, (. John 16:23-27, Matthew 6:6-9)
5. Worship God the Father in spirit and truth, (John 4:21-26). The Messiah explained it, Vs 26.
6. Make them one just as we are one. (Join 17:21-22)
7. The Father is the only true God, (John 17:3).
8. I come from God. (John 16:27,30).[/b][/quote]All the above are kindergarten verses that are used by people who read only the letters of the Word without the revelation of the Spirit.

If you have turned away from these things to believe a certain revelation from any spirit, the scripture said it clearly that you don't have God. And you don't also have the Son of God. You have abandoned what the Holy spirit inspired and is written in black and white to follow personal revelation.

But you are the one who turned away and abandoned the true word of God by limiting your knowledge to letters. Hey, my brother, "The letter kills. The Spirit gives life."

See those who have abandoned the will of God revealed through Christ and have been missled and deceived by prophecies, casting of demons, signs and wonders.

If you're not misled then you should be able to do all.these things. If you're not doing them, you're not a believer. Those are Jesus' own Words.

Matthew 7:21-23 HCSB
[21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ [23] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’

Yes, because there are those who started with Him that might not finish with Him. The fact that they worked miracles showed whom they started with. The fact that Jesus rejected them shows whom they ended with. Bit if you never started with Him, you can never have the experience except you got ithe counterfeit from Satan.

See the condition to enter the kingdom of God in bold. You can't reject God's word that came through Jesus Christ and still want to enter his kingdom. Did you see how those people think they were pleasing Christ but Christ turned them towards God the Father's will?

But you reject God's Words like the Pharisees who read only letters, and who thereby lacked the knowledge of Scriptures and had no access to the power of God. Mathew 22:29.

Those who disregard the words of Jesus Christ don't have God. They don't also have Christ.

This is why you need to sit down and be taught the ways of God more perfectly, otherwise, you'll think you mow God when you don't know Him at all.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 2:06pm On Aug 13, 2025

Janosky:
Oga, are you missing the message of John 4:24 & John 5:37,43?
Yes.
According to Jesus, Jehovah God the Almighty Spirit NEVER became Flesh.
Jesus his son another spirit being became flesh, confirmed by Romans 8:3.
This fact is not rocket science nau.

Oga, your own Bible @Hebrew 6:13, 1 Corinthians 11:3,John 14:28. Ephesians 4:6,Oga record this scripture into your brain.

Oga,Your own Bible says Jehovah God the Almighty Spirit Being is GREATER THAN Jesus and ALL spirit beings.
Oga,Allow this Bible truth into your heart.

My friend, is this in your Bible:

Hebrews 1:8, which says, "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever...". That's KJV.

I'm sure Boomark too saw this and thought it's a mistake of Scripture.

This verse is translated in NIV as "Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever" (NIV) or "But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever'" (ESV).

I can bring you hidden scriptures that are not even commonly used by Trinitarians. You'll need to create a dedicated thread and invite me. I have a lot to reveal. I am one of those privileged to be thoroughly taught of the Lord and not by man.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 2:12pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
No, the doctrine of God not being a trinity is falsehood that is target against God by satan and the antichrist.

But they'll be right to think of you so because you're actually the one rejecting the Words of the Lord Jesus.

It's the other way round my brother, I'll make you see your errors rather.

Absolutely correct. The doctrine of God not being a Trinity fits very well into this narrative.

And Christ's teaching is that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.

A name could have been formed but not a doctrine. The doctrine itself is fully grounded and established in Scripture.

Apparently applies to you.

We didn't. The manifestation in the flesh cannot be as the real Glory in the Spirit. So, the sayings of Christ is true that the Father is greater than Jim but the Father is the One who manifested as the Son in a much lesser form than His real self to serve a purpose. An a for that acts an ape in a movie is greater than the ape he is acting, isn't it? Jesus was was the Father acting on earth.

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory," 1 Timothy 3:16.

Absolutely, the same way the Actor is the man of the ape he is acting as well as the man of everyone around the ape.

Jesus is God's Word and God's Word is God's Will.

4. Pray to the Father, (. John 16:23-27, Matthew 6:6-9)
5. Worship God the Father in spirit and truth, (John 4:21-26). The Messiah explained it, Vs 26.
6. Make them one just as we are one. (Join 17:21-22)
7. The Father is the only true God, (John 17:3).
8. I come from God. (John 16:27,30).[/b]
All the above are kindergarten verses that are used by people who read only the letters of the Word without the revelation of the Spirit.

If you have turned away from these things to believe a certain revelation from any spirit, the scripture said it clearly that you don't have God. And you don't also have the Son of God. You have abandoned what the Holy spirit inspired and is written in black and white to follow personal revelation.
But you are the one who turned away and abandoned the true word of God by limiting your knowledge to letters. Hey, my brother, "The letter kills. The Spirit gives life."

See those who have abandoned the will of God revealed through Christ and have been missled and deceived by prophecies, casting of demons, signs and wonders.
If you're not misled then you should be able to do all.these things. If you're not doing them, you're not a believer. Those are Jesus' own Words.

Matthew 7:21-23 HCSB
[21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ [23] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
Yes, because there are those who started with Him that might not finish with Him. The fact that they worked miracles showed whom they started with. The fact that Jesus rejected them shows whom they ended with. Bit if you never started with Him, you can never have the experience except you got ithe counterfeit from Satan.

See the condition to enter the kingdom of God in bold. You can't reject God's word that came through Jesus Christ and still want to enter his kingdom. Did you see how those people think they were pleasing Christ but Christ turned them towards God the Father's will?
But you reject God's Words like the Pharisees who read only letters, and who thereby lacked the knowledge of Scriptures and had no access to the power of God. Mathew 22:29.

Those who disregard the words of Jesus Christ don't have God. They don't also have Christ.

This is why you need to sit down and be taught the ways of God more perfectly, otherwise, you'll think you mow God when you don't know Him at all.

In the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16, "GOD" is not there .
Trinitarians inserted ,ADDED "God" to the verse to pursue an agenda the bible does not approve.

The Greek rendition is "HE/WHO/WHICH was made manifest in the flesh".

Please go & verify this fact.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Janosky: 2:30pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
My friend, is this in your Bible:

Hebrews 1:8, which says, "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever...". That's KJV.

I'm sure Boomark too saw this and thought it's a mistake of Scripture.

This verse is translated in NIV as "Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever" (NIV) or "But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever'" (ESV).

I can bring you hidden scriptures that are not even commonly used by Trinitarians. You'll need to create a dedicated thread and invite me. I have a lot to reveal. I am one of those privileged to be thoroughly taught of the Lord and not by man.

Hebrew 1:8 was copied from Psalms 45:6.
NIV distorted Hebrew 1:8 is not original copy of Psalms 45:6-7 in the Hebrew language Masoretic texts.
Hebrew 1:8 was copied from Psalms 45:6.
Oga,Go and read Psalms 45:6 in the Catholic new Jerusalem Bible, The Message Bible as well as Hebrew language Masoretic Text (because Psalms was translated from Hebrew language).
Then, you would discover the lie ,distortion ADDED to your NIV rendition of Hebrew 1:8.

In a nutshell, Psalms 45:6-7 Hebrew language rendition:
"Your throne is from God/ God is your throne".

Distortion of Hebrew 1:8 is unacceptable.
The correct rendition of Hebrew 1:8 copied from Psalms 45:6 does not support Trinity .
Screenshot evidences
grin

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 4:59pm On Aug 13, 2025*

Janosky:

Hebrew 1:8 was copied from Psalms 45:6.
NIV distorted Hebrew 1:8 is not original copy of Psalms 45:6-7 in the Hebrew language Masoretic texts.
Hebrew 1:8 was copied from Psalms 45:6.
Oga,Go and read Psalms 45:6 in the Catholic new Jerusalem Bible, The Message Bible as well as Hebrew language Masoretic Text (because Psalms was translated from Hebrew language).
Then, you would discover the lie ,distortion ADDED to your NIV rendition of Hebrew 1:8.

In a nutshell, Psalms 45:6-7 Hebrew language rendition:
"Your throne is from God/ God is your throne".

Distortion of Hebrew 1:8 is unacceptable.
The correct rendition of Hebrew 1:8 copied from Psalms 45:6 does not support Trinity .
Screenshot evidences

My friend, there's no way you want to put it.

Even if you claim distortion, there's only one throne in the universe, and that throne is God's throne. There are no two thrones in heaven. And of that same one throne, the screenshots you attached called it the Son's throne. By talking to the Son and referring to God's throne as 'Your throne ' while talking to the Son, makes the one throne the Son's throne, and this same throne is God's throne. If God's throne is the Son's throne and there's just only that one throne, then the Son is the same God who owns the same throne.

Jesus called Himself the Son of God in John 5, the Jews who have better understanding than you, took up stones to cast at Him because they know from the above verse that if you claim to be the Son of God, then you are God by implication.

John 5:18: "Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him; for not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."

The Jews didn't want to believe Jesus is the Son of God because they know that believing Jesus is the Son of God means Jesus is God. This is one reason why the Jews rejected Him.

If you tell a Jew that you believe Jesus is the Son of God but He's not God. To him, you're a massive joke because he knows that the Son of God is God.

So, how do you want to put it? That throne is God's throne and the Son's throne.

I believe Boomark could help you.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 5:02pm On Aug 13, 2025*

Janosky:

In the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16, "GOD" is not there .
Trinitarians inserted ,ADDED "God" to the verse to pursue an agenda the bible does not approve.

The Greek rendition is "HE/WHO/WHICH was made manifest in the flesh".

Please go & verify this fact.

You also know that what you said is not true.

Here is it, even in your own language.

Great is the mystery of Godliness who was manifest in the flesh ..

So, who is that 'Who' in that verse, and why is the mystery so great? Who is that Godliness that was manifest in the flesh, and is a great mystery?

Hope Boomark is following?

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55pm On Aug 13, 2025

Janosky:
In the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16, "GOD" is not there .
Trinitarians inserted ,ADDED "God" to the verse to pursue an agenda the bible does not approve.
The Greek rendition is "HE/WHO/WHICH was made manifest in the flesh".
Please go & verify this fact.

Na wah o, my brother you still have time for these storytellers?

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 10:44pm On Aug 13, 2025

FxMasterz:
No, the doctrine of God not being a trinity is falsehood that is target against God by satan and the antichrist.

But they'll be right to think of you so because you're actually the one rejecting the Words of the Lord Jesus.

It's the other way round my brother, I'll make you see your errors rather.

Absolutely correct. The doctrine of God not being a Trinity fits very well into this narrative.

And Christ's teaching is that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.

A name could have been formed but not a doctrine. The doctrine itself is fully grounded and established in Scripture.

Apparently applies to you.

We didn't. The manifestation in the flesh cannot be as the real Glory in the Spirit. So, the sayings of Christ is true that the Father is greater than Jim but the Father is the One who manifested as the Son in a much lesser form than His real self to serve a purpose. An a for that acts an ape in a movie is greater than the ape he is acting, isn't it? Jesus was was the Father acting on earth.

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory," 1 Timothy 3:16.

Absolutely, the same way the Actor is the man of the ape he is acting as well as the man of everyone around the ape.

Jesus is God's Word and God's Word is God's Will.

4. Pray to the Father, (. John 16:23-27, Matthew 6:6-9)
5. Worship God the Father in spirit and truth, (John 4:21-26). The Messiah explained it, Vs 26.
6. Make them one just as we are one. (Join 17:21-22)
7. The Father is the only true God, (John 17:3).
8. I come from God. (John 16:27,30).[/b]
All the above are kindergarten verses that are used by people who read only the letters of the Word without the revelation of the Spirit.

If you have turned away from these things to believe a certain revelation from any spirit, the scripture said it clearly that you don't have God. And you don't also have the Son of God. You have abandoned what the Holy spirit inspired and is written in black and white to follow personal revelation.
But you are the one who turned away and abandoned the true word of God by limiting your knowledge to letters. Hey, my brother, "The letter kills. The Spirit gives life."

See those who have abandoned the will of God revealed through Christ and have been missled and deceived by prophecies, casting of demons, signs and wonders.
If you're not misled then you should be able to do all.these things. If you're not doing them, you're not a believer. Those are Jesus' own Words.

Matthew 7:21-23 HCSB
[21] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord! ’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? ’ [23] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
Yes, because there are those who started with Him that might not finish with Him. The fact that they worked miracles showed whom they started with. The fact that Jesus rejected them shows whom they ended with. Bit if you never started with Him, you can never have the experience except you got ithe counterfeit from Satan.

See the condition to enter the kingdom of God in bold. You can't reject God's word that came through Jesus Christ and still want to enter his kingdom. Did you see how those people think they were pleasing Christ but Christ turned them towards God the Father's will?
But you reject God's Words like the Pharisees who read only letters, and who thereby lacked the knowledge of Scriptures and had no access to the power of God. Mathew 22:29.

Those who disregard the words of Jesus Christ don't have God. They don't also have Christ.

This is why you need to sit down and be taught the ways of God more perfectly, otherwise, you'll think you mow God when you don't know Him at all.

You called the Words of Jesus Christ kindergarten scriptures? You are even worse than those you are supporting. You mocked the words of Jesus and called it kindergarten sayings. The spirit of the antichrist is no longer difficult to identify.

The spirit of the antichrist used Apes to teach you things of the spirit

Screenshot:
This one is even funny. It was very easy for you to be talking out of point. No wonder you didn't understand the simple thing I asked you to identify.

Now I was talking about those who abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ and you responded with, Jesus teaching is that anyone who has seen him has seen the Father. Which kind of out of point comment id this? Is this how we are going to do the discussion? With off point comments?

The teachings of Jesus Christ is that no one has seen the Father. Oya tell him it's a lie.

John 5:37 NIrV
[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.

John 6:46 NIrV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

Its like your job as minister of the antichrist is to make Jesus a liar? He said no one has seen the Father. But I will not tell you what he meant by what you said. The answer is that chapter but you are blinded to see it thats you believe contradictions. I have already seen a great poor and lack of understanding in the things you wrote.

Ndi Jesus disciples fellowship

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 11:54pm On Aug 13, 2025

Round 8 Result

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 point

Any out of point (from rule 3 in scoring)
Image123: 0
Boomark: 0

Final score

Boomark: +10 points

Image123: 0 points

Watch the short video to see how the analysis was done according to the rules to focus on the bible alone and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeBTJgShDLU?si=iVnljQLYmaK5OUmU

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by Boomark(op): 12:20am On Aug 14, 2025

quote author=FxMasterz post=136445322]

You also know that what you said is not true.

Here is it, even in your own language.

Great is the mystery of Godliness who was manifest in the flesh ..

So, who is that 'Who' in that verse, and why is the mystery so great? Who is that Godliness that was manifest in the flesh, and is a great mystery?

Hope Boomark is following?[/quote]See your reply in the screenshot

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 5:13am On Aug 14, 2025*

Boomark:
You called the Words of Jesus Christ kindergarten scriptures? You are even worse than those you are supporting. You mocked the words of Jesus and called it kindergarten sayings. The spirit of the antichrist is no longer difficult to identify.

Boomark, you are very ignorant and you need to learn. You don't even understand simple spiritual language.

The Bible says:
For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.

But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil "
Hebrews 5:13-14.

You don't even understand simple spiritual language. By kindergarten word, I mean milk of the Word. You're partaking off the milk of the Word and bragging in your little and insufficient knowledge. That's spiritual language.

Here is God's advice for you:
"As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby," 1 Peter 2:2.

Yes, there are kindergarten scriptures and the Bible calls then the milk of the Word. You need to grow and start eating solid food.

The spirit of the antichrist used Apes to teach you things of the spirit

Would you also blaspheme? Keep it up!

Screenshot:
This one is even funny. It was very easy for you to be talking out of point. No wonder you didn't understand the simple thing I asked you to identify.

Now I was talking about those who abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ and you responded with, Jesus teaching is that anyone who has seen him has seen the Father. Which kind of out of point comment id this? Is this how we are going to do the discussion? With off point comments?

No, that response was about those who Jesus rejected even though they called Him Lord. My response was for that post of yours.

The teachings of Jesus Christ is that no one has seen the Father. Oya tell him it's a lie.

You lied!

Jesus never said no one has seen the Father!

It was John who first said in John 1:18, "No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is HIMSELF God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known." NIV.

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known." - NLT.

New Living Translation
"No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us."

Berean Standard Bible
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side, has [/b]made Him known[/b]."

By dwelling on one part of the verse while neglecting the other parts of the same verse, you prove it further that you are feeding on kindergarten scriptures.

You only remembered that no one has yet seen the Father, but your forgot that the Only Begotten has made Him known.

I have screenshot the Greek Interlinear of that same verse to you. See it in the attached image below. The original Greek writings read:

"No one has ever yet seen God. THE ONLY BEGOTTEN GOD, the One Being in the blossom of the Father, HE HAS MADE HIM KNOWN."

These all are what John said in John 1, further corroborated by Jesus in other parts of Scripture.

This is what Jesus said below. Boomark , please read very well.

John 14:8-9 (NIV)

8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."

Philip was making a seemingly important request. "Lord, show us the Father."

9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"

Jesus was apparently alarmed by Philip's request. He said Philip, don't you know me? Why asking me to show you the Father? After so long a time of being with me? Don't you know Phillip, that anyone who has seen me as seen the Father?

Janosky? Don't you know that anyone who has seen me has seen the Father? Why are you saying no one has seen the Father when many have seen me? ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER.

Hey, these are not my words. These are the Words of the Lord Jesus Himself.

Jesus is saying? Boomark, why are you distorting my Words? By saying no one has ever seen the Father, you have distorted my Words. Don't you know that anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, Boomark?

[37] The Father who sent me is himself a witness about me. You have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he really looks like.

He was talking to the unbelievers here. There's no unbeliever whoo has seen the Father.

Check that Scripture well, that statement was made to unbelievers and not to believers. Are you an unbeliever, Boomark? You have never heard the voice of God? God has never spoken to you by His Spirit?

Even those unbelievers who saw the physical Jesus had not seen the Father. To see the Father, even after meeting the physical Jesus, is by Revelation. And that revelation does not come through flesh and blood.

I just pray your eyes would be opened to be able to see this. A revelation of Jesus Christ is a revelation of the Father.

Have you ever read that Jesus said:

John 14:10: "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"

Don't you believe, Boomark? Don't you believe? Janosky?

John 6:46 NIV
[46] No one has seen the Father except the one who has come from God. Only he has seen the Father.

Half truth, very dangerous kind of truth! Why turn a blind eye to John 1:18 that made the same statement and progresses to say "THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, WHO IS HIMSELF GOD, HAS REVEALED HIM."? Or, is this one not part of Scripture? We balance Scriptures with Scripture to get the gems out. Not quoting disjointed verses without their other counterparts in other parts of Scripture.

It's there in the very NIV that you quoted from. John 1:18. No, you're the one on errand for the Antichrist. Why stand on half truth? Half truth is falsehood! Stand on the Whole of the Bible, not just a part of it.

Its like your job as minister of the antichrist is to make Jesus a liar? He said no one has seen the Father. But I will not tell you what he meant by what you said. The answer is that chapter but you are blinded to see it thats you believe contradictions. I have already seen a great poor and lack of understanding in the things you wrote.

But all I see is empty boasting without deep knowledge of Scriptures, and a leaning to that part of Scripture that soothes you and supports your ideology while neglecting the rest. The Antichrist preaches half truth. He says "Eat the fruits, you shall not surely die." That's half truth because indeed you shall not die physically, but the second truth is that you shall die spiritually. The Antichrist hid the second truth from them.

The half truth is that no one has seen the Father. The second truth is that The Only Begotten Son had revealed Him. For whoever has seen the Son has seen the Father.

Ndi Jesus disciples fellowship

Says Boomark who feeds on half truth and brags on kindergarten scriptures.

If a man writes a book and says in one place, I have 2 ducks and 2 goats. And he says in another place, 'I have 2 goats'. Is it right to for you to conclude only in the second statement, and posit that only the 2 goats are the livestock the man has? You need to remember his first other statement about ducks, and make the right judgement that he has 4 livestocks.

Jesus said no one has seen the Father when talking to unbelievers, but you need to remember that He also said those who see Him have seen the Father. John also testified that Jesus came to reveal the Father.

So, before Jesus came, no one had seen the Father. But before He left, He revealed the Father. He Himself is the manifestation of the Father, and those who see Him have seen the Father.

If you cannot see the Father in Jesus, it's because you don't know Jesus.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 6:11am On Aug 14, 2025*

Boomark:
quote author=FxMasterz post=136445322]

You also know that what you said is not true.

Here is it, even in your own language.

Great is the mystery of Godliness who was manifest in the flesh ..

So, who is that 'Who' in that verse, and why is the mystery so great? Who is that Godliness that was manifest in the flesh, and is a great mystery?

Hope Boomark is following?

See your reply in the screenshot

So, why did you screenshot and make your response unaccessible? I couldn't find your mention relating to the screenshot below.

Why didn't you answer the questions?

Who is the Who in that verse? Why is the manifestation of that Who a mystery? And What is the mystery in the Godliness of that who? You can't understand scriptures if you read letters without asking questions.

God didn't give us letters to consume. He gave them to us to unravel.

John 6:63:

"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh (the letters) profits nothing. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life."

2 Corinthians 3:6

"The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life "

I'm even alarmed that you were mocking the Word of God about the letters that kill.

Re: Bible Challenge On Trinity. Boomark And Image123 by FxMasterz: 6:36am On Aug 14, 2025

Boomark, tell ChatGPT to quote the original Greek of John 1:18 and translate it to English. Afterwards, be bold enough to screenshot it and attach it here.

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