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| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Walai(m): 8:45pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
Anybody judging 2027 Presidential election with the bye-election needs his head examined. No 1, the voter turnout is very low, people know the election will not change anything No 2, the governors have upper hand in state house of assembly elections. No 3, the candidate in the ballot matters. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by EvilMerodack(m): 10:35pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
Acidosis:These are mere postulations. It could go either way and we aren't sure yet The most certain thing anyone can bank on for now is that, as recent as yesterday, ADC isn't a force to reckon with in any state. That's a fact backed by the results Live in the now and lets leave these probabilities. In fact, people should have voted ADC to send a strong message to Tinubu, but that didn't happen |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by EvilMerodack(m): 10:38pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
Walai:And anybody thinking things would suddenly to take sharp twist in 2027 isn't a realist Na here we dey, dem don do election for Imo and Edo last year and na APC win By logic, APC have upper hand judging by recent results and that means a stronger projections for 2027. This is a fact backed by recent results Whatever you're saying is based on probabilities that can't be backed by any real data. Just your opinion Live in your de-lusions |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by EvilMerodack(m): 10:41pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
Half-smart logic We gather dey go exam for 2027, I dey score high for mock, you dey score low. Who get edge normal normal? Yes, things could change,but saying this bye-election would have zero impact In 2027 means you're either d-ull or l-ying to yourself |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by duro4chang(m): 11:21pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
jmoore:But you are always here complaining. May you continue to complain. Kikikikikkikikikiki! |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by stuffs2002: 12:12am On Aug 18, 2025 |
jmoore:Just accept your failure and stop creating fake excuses |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Penguin2(op): 8:28am On Aug 18, 2025 |
Cherrybae:Talk to me when INEC starts conducting credible elections. My predictions are always based on things happening as they are designed to be. But when you organize the kind of elections that brought Okpebholo as governor in Edo, you have no right to come here and mock the failure of my predictions. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by casualobserver: 8:29am On Aug 18, 2025*. Modified: 5:57pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:Look. Ordinarily these elections don’t mean anything. These elections were significant for the following reasons: 1: it shows governors matter 2: it shows that despite hardship, the electorate are not as against Tinubu as online media will have you believe. 3: it shows the ADC members are not as influential as they claim…..even Obi! 4: it shows Obi will not perform as well in the Christian North. The religious card of 2023 is gone! That will affect his votes in SW and middle belt! 5: it shows Obi rigged a lot of SE votes. 6: it was the 1st test of the coalition and they were humiliated…..even though it was a bye election, it matters! 7: it shows Obi won’t pull as many gotes even in his SE! 8: low performance discourages supporter turnout in future elections. It is instructive to note that at the victory rally Soludo raised the hand of the senator elect and told the crowd that while Anambra is APGA but we are sending him to Abuja not to do opposition but to do alliance with the progressives in aAbuja to o which the crowd applauded! I believe SE governors were afraid to be seen to work against their own in 2023. But the defections in the SS has woken them up. Obi will do well in the SE in presidential elections but what that statement says to me is that SE governors are going to work hard to deliver votes for Tinubu in 2027 and make it harder for Obi to rig. Again like I said this is governors are important. Recent statements by Orji Kalu and Umahi reinforce the realization by SE politicians, that they need to work hard to deliver votes for Tinubu otherwise they won’t stand a chance against the SS when next presidency returns to the south. Like I always say, the entire SW votes are up for grabs from 2031-2055, possibly up to 2071, as we are not due to be on the ballot! The NW will also not be on the ballot in 2031. Those who understand politics understand these are the 2 largest voting blocks and what it means come 2031. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Penguin2(op): 9:08am On Aug 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:The only thing you said here that I agree with is that governors matter. Anyone who denies that governors matter is lying to himself. But their influence is not beyond their SSAs and the numbers their SSAs can influence and maybe the security architecture under their command. But saying Obi rigged Southeast is just big fat lie. I’ll tell you again that the numbers Tinubu got in Imo and Ebonyi was manufactured by Umahi and Uzodimma. Will Obi get the votes of Christian north? Only time will tell. But if we diagnose the Christian north, the only part of Christian north that has experienced something different under Tinubu regime is Southern Kaduna with the restoration of security and the establishment of FMC and a Federal University. But apart from Southern Kaduna, would you say the same of Plateau and Benue where killings have but doubled? Or Benue and Plateau have no brains? They will still queue up and vote Tinubu abi? |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by casualobserver: 9:31am On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:Obi rigged, he would have won overwhelmingly but he rigged, we saw the videos. Everybody rigs. Rigging is part of the Nigerian DNA. Obi rigged when he was governor so why suddenly would he not rig in 2023 in an election where he can declare what he wants unopposed? . It is precisely in zones where you have overwhelming support that the most rigging occurs because you have the terrain to yourself and nobody will contest the result. You lost an election so your opponent had no need to examine your votes does not mean you did not rig. You accused your opponent of rigging does not mean you did not rig yourself. That I said he rigged does not mean I was saying he still would not have won with a landslide. We have seen elections lost because a contestant overinflated the votes in his stronghold and they were cancelled, yet he would have won without the rigging. . We have seen elections where a contestant inflated the results in his stronghold even though he would have won without rigging, an example being Uzodinma in 2023. Every politician (or his foot soldiers) rigs in his stronghold if he can. As for the rest keep arguing. At this stage I am tired of years of telling you guys how things will unfold and you guys always pushing back only for them to unfold exactly as I said. The day Obi left PDP, I said he just handed the presidency to Tinubu, I got so much pushback here on Nairaland maybe even you might have been one of them. Now suddenly they now realize a divided house cannot win an election and they are running around trying to form a coalition. It really amazes me how Nigerians can’t see what is staring them right in the face! You can’t play the religious card in Benue and Plateau! The Benue conflicts turns out to be inter tribal conflicts. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by casualobserver: 10:52am On Aug 18, 2025*. Modified: 12:45pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Oh I forgot to add this very important point on why it matters. 8: humiliating performances discourages supporter turnout in future elections. In 2019, I voted for Sowore because I wasn’t inspired by Buhari or Atiku. So even though I knew he wouldn’t win, I thought let me encourage him. Hopefully people like him can grow. If I am faced with the same choices tomorrow, I will stay in my house rather than waste my day in the sun. In a, not Leaving my house to vote tpfor anybody unless I believe you have a chance. I would have voted for Durotoye or Moghalu or whoever emerged from their planned alliance at that time but I was so annoyed with them that they let their egos foil their attempts at giving us an alternative that I switched to Sowore. Which leads me to another point 9) when small/new parties fail especially woefully, it reinforces the view in voters that you can only win with one of the 2 main parties and any vote for any other party is a wasted vote. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Penguin2(op): 10:58am On Aug 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:In 2023, Peter Obi won the election but INEC shutdown the IREV and conjured numbers for Tinubu. You can choose to lie to yourself and believe that Tinubu won Rivers. If today, it’s taken as official that Tinubu won Rivers, then imagine other atrocities that happened in that election that is now official. Or those things don’t count? And saying that Benue is inter-tribal war, what has Tinubu done to stop the war? And how did you arrive at the war being inter-tribal when the governor of the state has told the world on national television that foreigners have invaded his state and trying to displace his people? Or do you now know more than the governor that receives intelligence everyday? |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by delkuf(m): 11:06am On Aug 18, 2025 |
jmoore:oga, the Nigeria people hasn't learn. In 2027 with the bribing and grabbing of apc will win. It is so painful but it is the truth |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by casualobserver: 12:42pm On Aug 18, 2025*. Modified: 7:34pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:I don’t know where to start or whether I should even bother. Talking about irev is a sign of someone without grey matter or at the very least someone who doesn’t understand the election process. If I hadn’t seen the irev in your response. I might have been tempted but I have no tolerance for educated person who talks about irev. Such a person is either ignorant of the process, lacking in grey matter or not worthy of engaging because he believes what he believes irrespective of evidence. I have encountered enough of such and probably you in the past to leave them to their destiny. Just as Saturday was an epiphany moment for many Obidients, in time you will see the results of what everyone can see but you. For the benefit of others who are reading, IREV plays no part is the vote counting process. Irev is not used to count votes, that is why you will only ever see individual polling unit results in irev. Irev does not collate the results. So If you like alter the results on irev, that’s your business, Inec does not use it to collate results. It is a viewing portal for the public and what it shows or is supposed to show is a copy of the original result sheet which every party agents and the police have a copy of. This is how elections work: 1. Votes are counted at the PU in presence of voters, the party agents and the police 2: the results are imputed into the ORIGINAL EC8 result sheet 3: party agents sign the ORIGINAL result sheet and are given copies as well as a copy for the police. Please it is important note at this point every body has a copy of the ORIGINAL result sheet! 4: results are posted at the PU so voters can see and snap. If not they are at least aware of the announced results. 5: the ORIGINAL results sheet (EC8) is scanned and sent to irev for the public to view. At this point The election and INEc has no more business with irev. 6: INEC takes the ORIGINAL result sheet to the collation center where party agents from various polling units come with their own copies to verify the results being collated and announced tallies with what they have on their copy…i.e that there has been no tampering of results.. It is the ORIGINAL physical result sheet that is used to collate votes not irev. As they are announcing, party agents are comparing to what they have. Sometimes you can see this on televised state and national results when the rec make genuine errors in additions. If you try to enter say 100 votes for a candidate when my copy as a party agent says 60 votes, I will object. 7: if there is a dispute, party agents will tender their copies of ORIGINAL results sheet issued to them at the PU to compare. If at the collation center a corrupt a INEc official tries to record say 100 votes for a candidate when my copy of the result sheet as a party agent says 60 votes, I will object and present my copy of what I was given at the PU as evidence. . If we can’t resolve it we ask the police for his copy. If it is clear it has been tampered it is cancelled. This is why sometimes you hear at collation centers “any cancellations?” These cancellations may be referenced later if the results of the election are affected by the cancelled votes. If it has been tampered in any way, it will be discovered. If further verification is required, the copy with the police will be referenced. If they don’t tally or their is ambiguity the entire results may be cancelled. The only time irev is referenced is if after comparing the results of the party agent and the police their is still discrepancy, then INEc will request a copy of the result on IREV. I have never known a single incident where INEC has had to reference the result on IREV. For INEc to do so, it means the police have lost their copy. The collation goes from ward to state to national. The source or genesis of the votes being collated At ANY POINT is the PHYSICAL ORIGINAL result sheet not irev. Which like I said all party agents, police have copies. So if any result is altered there is evidence. Were results altered ofcourse in some PUs, but if they made a difference there would be a paper trail. I have said it many times, it is unfortunate that sore losers have damaged the reputation and Image of one of the best electoral systems in the world. I have said it many times, you cannot rig in our current system and not leave evidence. The biggest point of electoral fraud right now is vote buying not the actual voting. There is a reason Obi and Atiku went to court to Disqualify Tinubu instead of showing where they won! Because they did not win! If they did there would be evidence no matter what anyone does on IREV. Anybody can make claims. For instance Obi claims he got 1m votes in Lagos, that means he was cheated out of 500,000 votes. Considering that the maximum number of voters per polling unit in Nigeria is 1000 and assuming that 50% of voters turned out (in reality it was around 20%). What Obi is Saying is that in 1000 polling units in Lagos (assuming 50% turnout and all the voters in that PU voted for him) How is it possible in Lagos for you to have 1000 polling units where you were rigged and you don’t have evidence? We are talk8mg about Lagos o not Katsina or Jigawa! So if some people want to put their gray matter on hold they are free to. As they say If you refuse to engage your thinking cap someone else will make us of it for you, whether an Nnamdi Kanu or a Peter Obi. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Omalicious1: 5:59pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:As usual, the people couldn't defeat the gimmicks of the politicians, so yes, it still goes to show what will happen in 2027...however I will advise that no one should die in their war. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Appletek: 5:59pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:Baba, you are naturally gifted in explaining and defending failure ![]() |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Appletek: 6:01pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
jmoore:Those who didn't vote Tinubu are trampling themselves to death over uncooked rice in Onitsha. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Empresa: 6:01pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:You can't judge 2027 with the bye elections because in 2023, Obi shut down the SE but how many states did LP conquer completely. My take is this, the Presidential election will not determine who wins a state. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Lanruze: 6:02pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
2027 is simple mathematics and analysis. APC will have their say but Nigerians will have their way. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by bewla(m): 6:05pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
helinues:this not how it will. Go in any way You forgot this just for a particular spot that need to be fill And the general will be a wide vast general election Not. Just small test like this But all the same the presidential will not be a landslide as we think it will go for APC |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Appletek: 6:05pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Acidosis:Do bye-election for Tinubu? That loss really affected you mentally. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by chinchum(m): 6:06pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
In some way, a coalition with no governor and senator is a coalition of failure. Obi's labour party "success" was clearly a peculiar one in 2023, it was a movement galvanised by muslim-muslim ticket, a political decision that triggered religious hypersensitivity as Obi was the only Christian and the ibos wanting their own as president . It will not fly again and the effect has been largely deflated from then till now. masses will not donate their own money to support coalition of thieves |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by alizma: 6:08pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
onatisi:But those caught with money during the bye election are not from APC. How do you align that with your post? |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by sisisioge: 6:09pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
It was so disappointing....the people who don't sell their votes didn't vote, the sellers of votes sold to the poverty peddling parties. Last last all of us go suffer today. 2027 looks like the hardship will continue. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Amarachieze(m): 6:10pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Nope. It is rather an inverse relationship. The bye elections were mostly localized and zoned (turn by turn) arrangements. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
I want to use this space to inform all Nigerians that are yet to get their voter 's card to go to INEC website and register to get their voter card. The portal is officially open . Let us work our part first by getting our voter card. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by tbrandzdpm: 6:12pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Nigerians are not ready, the country is on an autopilot...so just follow the cruise Penguin2: |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by JASONjnr(m): 6:15pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:My brother, just understand that APC is winning and stop killing yourself with different expressions that isn't going to manifest into a reality. The policies of this administration is in the right direction and you guys are playing politics with it. But know that APC isn't making noise like Obinis doing. |
| Re: Should We Judge What 2027 Will Be By Results Of The Bye Elections? by amnesty7: 6:16pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
In a twinkle of an eye, all evil plots would be rendered useless and all their permutations undone. |
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