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Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 11:38pm On Aug 16, 2025

Boomark:
1. So you have seen Jesus? And they taught you in church that Christians are only those who see Jesus. Have you seen how empty the things you wrote are? When you were typing you thought you were making sense.

2. I quote the words of Jesus. You called them kindergarten scriptures and told me that letter keels but spirit gives life. So you are not fit to teach the bible.

Boomark, please answer this question:

Who raised Jesus from the dead? A - The Father B - Jesus C - Holy Spirit D - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Choose only one option. Don't beat around the bush.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 4:25am On Aug 17, 2025

Ken4Christ:
Boomark, please answer this question:

Who raised Jesus from the dead? A - The Father B - Jesus C - Holy Spirit D - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Choose only one option. Don't beat around the bush.

A. The Father.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 10:46am On Aug 17, 2025

Boomark:
A. The Father.

But our Lord Jesus said he would raise himself up from the dead. Did he lie?

John 2:19–21: “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

John 10:17–18: “I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”

John 11:25: “I am the resurrection, and the life."

The Scripture also said that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead:

Romans 8:11: “The Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead…”

1 Peter 3:18: “…put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.”

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 3:17pm On Aug 17, 2025

Ken4Christ:
But our Lord Jesus said he would raise himself up from the dead. Did he lie?

John 2:19–21: “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

John 10:17–18: “I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”

John 11:25: “I am the resurrection, and the life."

The Scripture also said that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead:

Romans 8:11: “The Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead…”

1 Peter 3:18: “…put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.”

The Holy spirit is the Spirit of God. It belongs to the Father. It is this same spirit that the Father said he will put in his servant, Isaiah 42:1. Holy spirit is the power of God and God use the Holy spirit to achieve what he wants including the conception of Jesus Christ.

You gave 3 scriptures but I will show you what it means and with over 30 scriptures pointing to God the Father as the one who raised Jesus from the dead. Even Jesus knew this that's why he cried and prayed to the Father who is able to raise him and God heard his prayer.

Now to your scriptures, this will help you to understand that it is the Father that is speaking through him and commanding him on what to say. He hears the truth from the Father and say it to the people. It was the Father that spoke through him.

Just look for scriptures about resurrection and the life the Father has which he has given to the son. Ayam tired.

John 12:49-50 NKJV
[49] For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

John 8:38, 40 NKJV
[38] I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”
[40] But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.

Hebrews 5:7 NKJV
[7] who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,

John 8:26 NKJV
[26] I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and[b] I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him.”
[/b]

Galatians 1:1 – “…by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead.”

Romans 6:4 – “…as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father…”

Acts 2:24 – “Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.”

Acts 2:32 – “This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.”

Acts 3:15 – “And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.”

Acts 3:26 – “Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you...”

Acts 4:10 – “…Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead…”

Acts 5:30 – “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.”

Acts 10:40 – “Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly.”

Acts 13:30 – “But God raised him from the dead.”

Acts 13:33 – “God hath fulfilled the same unto us… in that he hath raised up Jesus again…”

Acts 13:34 – “And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption…”

Acts 13:37 – “But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.”

Acts 17:31 – “…he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Romans 4:24 – “…if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.”

Romans 4:25 – “…who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.”

Romans 7:4 – “…ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead…”

Romans 8:11 – “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ… shall also quicken your mortal bodies.”

Romans 8:34 – “…It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God…”

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

1 Corinthians 6:14 – “And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.”

1 Corinthians 15:15 – “…we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.”

2 Corinthians 4:14 – “Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus…”

Ephesians 1:20 – “…which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places.”

Colossians 2:12 – “…ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”

Colossians 3:1 – “If ye then be risen with Christ…”

1 Thessalonians 1:10 – “…and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus…”

Hebrews 13:20 – “Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus.

1 Peter 1:21 – “Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory…”

I am not like the the 1 verse pastor FxMasterz. Who doesn't even understand the 1 verse he is using to make noise. I gave him 7 and I will not explain his own for him. Let him continue being blind. This is also a knockout to Image123 round 9 claim on trinity. They twist scriptures to suit themselves.

Any opposition to these scriptures will mean believing in contradictions.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 8:57pm On Aug 17, 2025

Boomark:
The Holy spirit is the Spirit of God. It belongs to the Father. It is this same spirit that the Father said he will put in his servant, Isaiah 42:1. Holy spirit is the power of God and God use the Holy spirit to achieve what he wants including the conception of Jesus Christ.

You gave 3 scriptures but I will show you what it means and with over 30 scriptures pointing to God the Father as the one who raised Jesus from the dead. Even Jesus knew this that's why he cried and prayed to the Father who is able to raise him and God heard his prayer.

Now to your scriptures, this will help you to understand that it is the Father that is speaking through him and commanding him on what to say. He hears the truth from the Father and say it to the people. It was the Father that spoke through him.

Just look for scriptures about resurrection and the life the Father has which he has given to the son. Ayam tired.

John 12:49-50 NKJV
[49] For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

John 8:38, 40 NKJV
[38] I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”
[40] But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.

Hebrews 5:7 NKJV
[7] who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,

John 8:26 NKJV
[26] I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and[b] I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him.”
[/b]

Galatians 1:1 – “…by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead.”

Romans 6:4 – “…as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father…”

Acts 2:24 – “Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.”

Acts 2:32 – “This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.”

Acts 3:15 – “And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.”

Acts 3:26 – “Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you...”

Acts 4:10 – “…Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead…”

Acts 5:30 – “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.”

Acts 10:40 – “Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly.”

Acts 13:30 – “But God raised him from the dead.”

Acts 13:33 – “God hath fulfilled the same unto us… in that he hath raised up Jesus again…”

Acts 13:34 – “And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption…”

Acts 13:37 – “But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.”

Acts 17:31 – “…he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Romans 4:24 – “…if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.”

Romans 4:25 – “…who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.”

Romans 7:4 – “…ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead…”

Romans 8:11 – “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ… shall also quicken your mortal bodies.”

Romans 8:34 – “…It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God…”

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

1 Corinthians 6:14 – “And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.”

1 Corinthians 15:15 – “…we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.”

2 Corinthians 4:14 – “Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus…”

Ephesians 1:20 – “…which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places.”

Colossians 2:12 – “…ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”

Colossians 3:1 – “If ye then be risen with Christ…”

1 Thessalonians 1:10 – “…and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus…”

Hebrews 13:20 – “Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus.

1 Peter 1:21 – “Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory…”

I am not like the the 1 verse pastor FxMasterz. Who doesn't even understand the 1 verse he is using to make noise. I gave him 7 and I will not explain his own for him. Let him continue being blind. This is also a knockout to Image123 round 9 claim on trinity. They twist scriptures to suit themselves.

Any opposition to these scriptures will mean believing in contradictions.

The Holy Spirit is also known as the Spirit of Christ or the Spirit of his Son.

It's true that Jesus received authority from the Father to do all he does. I am only trying to make you see the unity in the three persons of the Godhead.

In a place, Jesus said that the Father would send the Holy Spirit in his name. In another place, Jesus Himself said he would send the Holy Spirit.

The Bible said that God created the world. It also said that all things were created by Jesus.

The Bible says that we are redeemed by the blood of Jesus. It also says that we are purchased by the blood of God.

You can't separate God from His Son. God commands but his Son is the word who brings his commands to pass.

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Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 10:31pm On Aug 17, 2025

When I said that those who do not continue with the teaching of Christ don't have God. A fake pastor known as FxMasterz came with antichrist agenda and quoted another scripture against what I wrote and said, Jesus' teaching is he who has seen me has seen the Father.

AI will not even save him and explain it for. I will send spirit of confusion to him and his AI. Just as Image123 and his AI are busy talking out of point. He has to beg me unless he believes the truth which Christ heard from the Father. Those words of Jesus Christ he called kindergarten scriptures came from the Father and he is ignorant to know.

He cannot say the words of human beings he calls spiritual father are kindergarten preaching or words for any reason. But he was bold to say such a thing to the word of God for a reason known to him. Only the spirit of the antichrist can do that. God who called and anointed me to slay falsehood didn't send me with any certificates.

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

You must believe this about the Father to be saved. Those who are claiming that the Holy spirit is interpreting scripture for them don't even know this nor believe in it.

1 Corinthians 15:15 – “…we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that dead rise not.”

Has he in any way testified of God that he raised up Christ? I don't think so.

1 Corinthians 6:14 – “And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2 Corinthians 4:14 – “Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus…”

Many will see Jesus as the resurrection, which he is, but they don't know who is behind it all. The source of everything. The Boomark and the apostles knew it but trinitarians don't.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 11:00pm On Aug 17, 2025

Ken4Christ:
The Holy Spirit is also known as the Spirit of Christ or the Spirit of his Son.

It's true that Jesus received authority from the Father to do all he does. I am only trying to make you see the unity in the three persons of the Godhead.

In a place, Jesus said that the Father would send the Holy Spirit in his name. In another place, Jesus Himself said he would send the Holy Spirit.

The Bible said that God created the world. It also said that all things were created by Jesus.

The Bible says that we are redeemed by the blood of Jesus. It also says that we are purchased by the blood of God.

You can't separate God from His Son. God commands but his Son is the word who brings his commands to pass.

I think I have shown you that it was the Father who raised Jesus Christ from the dead. An undisputable fact from over 30 scriptures.

So if someone ask you who raised Jesus from the dead? The correct answer is the Father.

What the Holy spirit is called cannot change it. Your understanding of Godhead cannot change it. Unity between the Son and the Father cannot change it. Both of them didn't unite and died together unseparated since you can't separate the son from the Father. My explanation should have helped you to dump all these beliefs that can't prove anything.

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

You are free to give yourself trinity reasons to reject what God has done by himself and also reject being saved. You are on your own., I have done what you asked for perfectly well..

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 11:54pm On Aug 17, 2025

Boomark:
I think I have shown you that it was the Father who raised Jesus Christ from the dead. An undisputable fact from over 30 scriptures.

So if someone ask you who raised Jesus from the dead? The correct answer is the Father.

What the Holy spirit is called cannot change it. Your understanding of Godhead cannot change it. Unity between the Son and the Father cannot change it. Both of them didn't unite and died together unseparated since you can't separate the son from the Father. My explanation should have helped you to dump all these beliefs that can't prove anything.

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

You are free to give yourself trinity reasons to reject what God has done by himself and also reject being saved. You are on your own., I have done what you asked for perfectly well..

You only want to lean on scriptures that agrees with your opinions and reject others that don't.

God created all things. Jesus also created all things. Analyse this.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Janosky: 12:08am On Aug 19, 2025*

Ken4Christ:
You only want to lean on scriptures that agrees with your opinions and reject others that don't.

God created all things. Jesus also created all things. Analyse this.

How do you analyze what is false?

If you like cherry pick your Bible ,you can't change the meaning of the Greek word "THROUGH" @ John 1:3,@ 1 Corinthians 8:6 @Colossian 1:16 @ Hebrew 1:2 & or any verse you cherry pick.

For instance,you write "Olaniyi" in Colossians 1:16 in Yoruba & another Translator of your book wrote "Olaniyi" in the same verse in the Igbo translation of your book.
Oga,Is that Igbo translation correct?

When JW's show you the proper rendition of the bible verses, you'll start moaning ....

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 1:05am On Aug 19, 2025

Janosky:
How do you analyze what is false?

If you like cherry pick your Bible ,you can't change the meaning of the Greek word "THROUGH" @ John 1:3,@ 1 Corinthians 8:6 @Colossian 1:16 @ Hebrew 1:2 & or any verse you cherry pick.

For instance,you write "Olaniyi" in Colossians 1:16 in Yoruba & another Translator of your book wrote "Olaniyi" in the same verse in the Igbo translation of your book.
Oga,Is that Igbo translation correct?

When JW's show you the proper rendition of the bible verses, you'll start moaning ....

You said nothing. Pride won't allow you to acknowledge that Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He is God in human flesh and it is explicitly stated in the scripture. As a man, he is subject to the Father. But in his divine attribute, they are one

Why do you think that the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.

The kingdom of God is also known as the kingdom of His dear Son. All that the Father has belongs to Jesus.

They are three persons but one God. Jesus doesn't act independently. He does what he sees his father do. The Holy Spirit also does what Jesus instructs him to do. It's a mystery you can't comprehend with the carnal mind.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04am On Aug 19, 2025*

Ken4Christ:
It's a MYSTERY you can't comprehend with the carnal mind.

The name written on her forehead was a MYSTERY: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. ‭Revelation 17:5 NIV‬

You are the funniest commentator on NL because if your god is a MYSTERY it simply means whoever goes for it should be prepared to welcome all manners of definition and opinions.

What really baffles me is how you agreed that your god is a MYSTERY yet you want to argue with other worshipers of your god instead of welcoming whatever anyone fabricates about your MYSTERIOUS god! huh

Please remind all of them that Hellfire is waiting for whoever disagrees on the nature of your MYSTERIOUS god! cheesy

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Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 11:07am On Aug 19, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
The name written on her forehead was a MYSTERY: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. ‭Revelation 17:5 NIV‬

You are the funniest commentator on NL because if our god is a MYSTERY it simply means whoever goes for it should be prepared to welcome all manners of definition and opinions.

What really baffles me is how you agreed that your god is a MYSTERY yet you want to argue with other worshipers of your god instead of welcoming whatever anyone fabricates about your MYSTERIOUS god!

Please remind all of them that Hellfire is waiting for whoever disagrees on the nature of your MYSTERIOUS god!

God Himself is not a mystery but his nature is a mystery to those who are not yet born again or to the carnal mind. And the scripture says the same thing:

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Our Lord Jesus also mentioned it:

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 9:03pm On Aug 19, 2025

Ken4Christ:
You only want to lean on scriptures that agrees with your opinions and reject others that don't.

God created all things. Jesus also created all things. Analyse this.

Before I answer you I would like you to answer these questions

John 12:49-50 NKJV
[49] For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

1. Do you believe Jesus, that he speaks whatever the Father commands him to say?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't believe him

Hebrews 5:7 NKJV
[7] who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,

2. Do you believe that Jesus' cries and tears means he knew it was only God the Father who was able to save him from death?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

3. Do you believe that it was God the Father that raised him from the dead?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't

4. If you gave 3 A's to the above questions, why is it still difficult for you to really accept you have agreed to become of your trinity doctrine?

Whatever that will make you not to really agree with question 3 is not of God. Beware of trinity. That's exactly what they do, to make people reject God.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 9:37pm On Aug 19, 2025

Ken4Christ:
God Himself is not a mystery but his nature is a mystery to those who are not yet born again or to the carnal mind. And the scripture says the same thing:

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Our Lord Jesus also mentioned it:

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given

See how you people are committing blunders. Satan and the antichrist is deceiving you people. When I say it, it will be as if I don't like you people.

Romans 1:20-21 NRSV
[20] Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; [21] for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened.

His nature is not a mystery. You are without excuse. Those scripture you quoted is meant for you. You people can't discern the things of the spirit. Your pastors and rev fathers have lied to you people. Which excuse will give again? You have been believing and practicing falsehood for years and ages.

Something that is a lie is very clear. I told you people that those who do not continue with the teaching of Christ don't have God. FxMasterz called those teaching of Christ kindergarten scriptures. That's why he doesn't know anything at all.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Janosky: 11:20pm On Aug 19, 2025

Ken4Christ:
You said nothing. Pride won't allow you to acknowledge that Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He is God in human flesh [/b]and it is explicitly stated in the scripture. As a man, he is subject to the Father. But in his divine attribute, they are one

[b]Invented at Nicene in year 326 & 381 AD
Oga, study your Bible.

Ken4Christ:
Why do you think that the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.

The kingdom of God is also known as the kingdom of His dear Son. All that the Father has belongs to Jesus.

John 17:7,11
"Now they understand that everything you have given me comes from you, 8 because I have given them the words you have given me..
11 Holy Father, keep them safe in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one."

Ken4Christ:
They are three persons but one God. Jesus doesn't act independently. He does what he sees his father do. The Holy Spirit also does what Jesus instructs him to do. It's a mystery you can't comprehend with the carnal mind.

Oga,you claim you don't have carnal mind. You say you follow Jesus & worship 3 persons.
Let me ask :
How many persons did jesus worship?

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 11:41pm On Aug 19, 2025

Ken4Christ:
You said nothing. Pride won't allow you to acknowledge that Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He is God in human flesh and it is explicitly stated in the scripture. As a man, he is subject to the Father. But in his divine attribute, they are one

Why do you think that the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ.

The kingdom of God is also known as the kingdom of His dear Son. All that the Father has belongs to Jesus.

They are three persons but one God. [/bJ Jesus doesn't act independently. He does what he sees his father do. The Holy Spirit also does what Jesus instructs him to do. It's a mystery you can't comprehend with the carnal mind.

You people don't know God. That's why it is a mystery to you. The bolded is falsehood. See what the bible says.

1 Corinthians 8:4-6 NIrV
[4] ...” [b]We know that “there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him.

Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB

[4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!

I believe that Jesus is a God. Moses was made a God to Pharaoh, Exodus 7:1. And there are many Gods in heaven and on earth.

The bible made it clear. Even though there are those who are called Gods in heaven and on earth, they all have One God and their God is the Father. This includes Jesus Christ. These scriptures are where Jesus called the Father his God (John 20:17, Hebrew 1:9, (Psalm 40:6-7+Hebrew 10:6-8 , Revelation 3:12).0

I'm against those who lump up one God as 3 persons. And they forgot to add Moses and make it 4. How then can someone still go ahead and say that one God 3 distinct persons? This is a lie.

The scripture said that "One God," is the Father. The Father who alone is a one God over all cannot fit into the trinity equation. The Father alone is One God. He doesn't share it with 2 other persons that serve him.

Ask your yourself who is one God according to the scripture above? Is it 3 persons? Who is one God in Deuteronomy 6:4? Is it 3 persons? Who is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the God of the Israelites who glorified Jesus, Acts 3:13? Is it 3 persons? Besides the Holy spirit was never called a God anywhere in the scripture.

So triniity is built on falsehood that is not in the scripture. Satan and antichrist don't want people to honour the one and only true God as one God he is. Romans 1:21. You ignore the truth about one God and believe falsehood made by man.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 11:57pm On Aug 19, 2025

Boomark:
You people don't know God. That's why it is a mystery to you. The bolded is falsehood. See what the bible says.

1 Corinthians 8:4-6 NIrV
[4] ...” We know that “there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him.

Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB

[4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!

I believe that Jesus is a God. Moses was made a God to Pharaoh, Exodus 7:1. And there are many Gods in heaven and on earth.

The bible made it clear. Even though there are those who are called Gods in heaven and on earth, they all have One God and their God is the Father. This includes Jesus Christ. These scriptures are where Jesus called the Father his God (John 20:17, Hebrew 1:9, (Psalm 40:6-7+Hebrew 10:6-8 , Revelation 3:12).0

I'm against those who lump up one God as 3 persons. And they forgot to add Moses and make it 4. How then can someone still go ahead and say that one God 3 distinct persons? This is a lie.

The scripture said that "One God," is the Father. The Father who alone is a one God over all cannot fit into the trinity equation. The Father alone is One God. He doesn't share it with 2 other persons that serve him.

Ask your yourself who is one God according to the scripture above? Is it 3 persons? Who is one God in Deuteronomy 6:4? Is it 3 persons? Who is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the God of the Israelites who glorified Jesus, Acts 3:13? Is it 3 persons? Besides the Holy spirit was never called a God anywhere in the scripture.

So triniity is built on falsehood that is not in the scripture. Satan and antichrist don't want people to honour the one and only true God as one God he is. Romans 1:21. You ignore the truth about one God and believe falsehood made by man.

Trinity is not built on any falsehood. It is revealed.

If humans can be in more than one place at the same time, why do you think it strange for God to manifest himself in human flesh. And scriptures are so clear on this.

The Father is God. Jesus is God. The Holy Spirit is God. But it's the same one God.

Thomas exclaimed, My Lord and my God when he saw Jesus. And Jesus didn’t rebuke him.

Your unbelief doesn't change the truth. Jesus is fully God in human flesh.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 11:59pm On Aug 19, 2025

Boomark:
See how you people are committing blunders. Satan and the antichrist is deceiving you people. When I say it, it will be as if I don't like you people.

Romans 1:20-21 NRSV
[20] Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; [21] for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened.

His nature is not a mystery. You are without excuse. Those scripture you quoted is meant for you. You people can't discern the things of the spirit. Your pastors and rev fathers have lied to you people. Which excuse will give again? You have been believing and practicing falsehood for years and ages.

Something that is a lie is very clear. I told you people that those who do not continue with the teaching of Christ don't have God. FxMasterz called those teaching of Christ kindergarten scriptures. That's why he doesn't know anything at all.

I am beginning to wonder if you are born again and filled with the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 2:17am On Aug 20, 2025

Ken4Christ:
I am beginning to wonder if you are born again and filled with the Holy Spirit.

If you have the Holy spirit you shouldn't have been ignorant of this scripture unless you are only filled with the spirit of the antichrist.

Romans 1:19-22 GNT
[19] God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. [20] Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! [21] They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. [22] They say they are wise, but they are fools;

Even those who don't have God are claiming the Holy spirit. Their dark mind filled with nonsense don't know that God has made everything about himself plain to all. Both to the carnal mind and spirit filled. The carnal mind have no excuse at all.

All those saying they need the Holy spirit for bible interpretation do not understand english. Example is FxMasterz who accused me of not relying on the Holy spirit for interpretation but was busy asking "who is Godliness?" As if Godliness is a being. What a great shame. This is someone who calls himself a pastor. He will soon ask "who is fig tree?"

When he was asking me for my spiritual father and certificate to preach was when I knew he was empty and only loyal to men instead of God. He doesn't know anything.

Now back to you ken and trinitarians, you all have been deceived by the spirit of antichrist. You have all refused to continue with the teaching of Christ so you don't have God and you don't have the Holy spirit.

This statement in the screenshot is a show of shame from people who don't know God and his words.

This Romans 1:19 was not on my mind. It was readily available for all those on the side of truth to see and to use it as a reply to those believing falsehood. Those who have refused to believe the truth will read it 10 times and will not still see anything.

God made everything plain. Trinity Is falsehood from satan and the antichrist to blind people from knowing the only true God.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 2:20am On Aug 20, 2025

Boomark:
Before I answer you I would like you to answer these questions

John 12:49-50 NKJV
[49] For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [50] And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

1. Do you believe Jesus, that he speaks whatever the Father commands him to say?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't believe him

Hebrews 5:7 NKJV
[7] who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,

2. Do you believe that Jesus' cries and tears means he knew it was only God the Father who was able to save him from death?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

3. Do you believe that it was God the Father that raised him from the dead?
A. Yes I believe
B. No I don't

4. If you gave 3 A's to the above questions, why is it still difficult for you to really accept you have agreed to become of your trinity doctrine?

Whatever that will make you not to really agree with question 3 is not of God. Beware of trinity. That's exactly what they do, to make people reject God.

Ken4Christ answer these questions

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Ken4Christ: 10:30pm On Aug 20, 2025

Boomark:
Ken4Christ answer these questions

Where you once a Jehovah Witness member? You argue like them. You employ the same dishonest strategy:

You only quote references of scriptures that appears to support your opinions and ignore many others that says otherwise.

Don't tell me you are not aware of scriptures that affirm the deity of Christ. Jesus is referred to as God in several passages of the scriptures.

He also claimed to be God.
God the Father called him God
Angels worshipped him. In fact Angels are commanded to worship him.
He is worshipped alongside with God the Father.

Why are you pretending you are not aware of all these.

When John the Beloved heard a voice behind him in the Isle of Patmos saying:

Revelation 1:11
... I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

When he turned to see who was talking to him, who did he see? Jesus.

So, Jesus is revealed as Alpha and Omega.
God, the Father is Alpha and Omega.
Can't you enough sense that they are one God in different manifestations- Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.

I am coming up with a full book on the subject of Trinity. Only the spiritually blind will deny it's untrue.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by FxMasterz: 6:53am On Aug 21, 2025

Ken4Christ:
I am beginning to wonder if you are born again and filled with the Holy Spirit.

My brother, he's not a Christian. Stop discussing scriptures with him. Instead, preach to him, perhaps God will save his heart. He needs Jesus in His life.

You can see how he rubbished the reliance on the Holy Spirit for scripture interpretation. No believer talks like that. And, there are many other statements of his that gave him out.

Preach the word to him. Tell him to give his life to Christ. I do not see him as a Christian. I stopped all discussions with him because of this and his lack of good comprehension of discourses.

I'll create a thread next week on this same issue and mention you also.

God bless you my brother. God bless Boomark too.

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:28am On Aug 21, 2025

FxMasterz:
My brother, he's not a Christian. Stop discussing scriptures with him. Instead, preach to him, perhaps God will save his heart. He needs Jesus in His life. You can see how he rubbished the reliance on the Holy Spirit for scripture interpretation. No believer talks like that. And, there are many other statements of his that gave him out.
Preach the word to him. Tell him to give his life to Christ. I do not see him as a Christian. I stopped all discussions with him because of this and his lack of good comprehension of discourses. I'll create a thread next week on this same issue and mention you also. God bless you my brother. God bless Boomark too.

This is hilarious indeed!
God bless both guys for contradicting one another! cheesy

All of you agree that your so called Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost will teach you people individually yet you people wants to agree on sacred matters.
Well it's better to leave you guys alone after all you are all BORN AGAIN and your god works in MYSTERIOUS ways so you people can disagree on sacred matters and still continue to please your god! cheesy

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by gohf: 9:00am On Aug 21, 2025

Boomark:
I think I have shown you that it was the Father who raised Jesus Christ from the dead. An undisputable fact from over 30 scriptures.

So if someone ask you who raised Jesus from the dead? The correct answer is the Father.

What the Holy spirit is called cannot change it. Your understanding of Godhead cannot change it. Unity between the Son and the Father cannot change it. Both of them didn't unite and died together unseparated since you can't separate the son from the Father. My explanation should have helped you to dump all these beliefs that can't prove anything.

Romans 10:9 – “…if thou shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

You are free to give yourself trinity reasons to reject what God has done by himself and also reject being saved. You are on your own., I have done what you asked for perfectly well..

should I say I am surprised or not, I mean I was expecting ken4christ to say you are wrong after giving you option A B C and D, but he just goes ahead and starts defending his logic and doctrine, irrespective of the scriptures that tell us otherwise

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by gohf: 9:09am On Aug 21, 2025

Ken4Christ:
... the same dishonest strategy:

You only quote references of scriptures that appears to support your opinions and ignore many others that says otherwise.

Don't tell me you are not aware of scriptures that affirm the deity of Christ. Jesus is referred to as God in several passages of the scriptures.

He also claimed to be God.
God the Father called him God
Angels worshipped him. In fact Angels are commanded to worship him.
He is worshipped alongside with God the Father.

Why are you pretending you are not aware of all these.

When John the Beloved heard a voice behind him in the Isle of Patmos saying:

Revelation 1:11
... I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

When he turned to see who was talking to him, who did he see? Jesus.

So, Jesus is revealed as Alpha and Omega.
God, the Father is Alpha and Omega.
Can't you enough sense that they are one God in different manifestations- Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.

I am coming up with a full book on the subject of Trinity. Only the spiritually blind will deny it's untrue.

First off scriptures are from Genesis to Malachi and that's what Jesus taught, and none of them called the Messiah God.

Secondly Jesus never claimed to be God, there's not a single quote made in the four gospels that Jesus claimed to be God nor claimed to be another God.

Angels are not commanded to worship God but they are commander to worship the son of God as the Messiah not as God.

God Himself is quoted saying, "There is NONE like him" He alone is God, expect you are saying the scriptures are a lie or that God lied?/

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by gohf: 9:25am On Aug 21, 2025

Ken4Christ:
But our Lord Jesus said he would raise himself up from the dead. Did he lie?

John 2:19–21: “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

John 10:17–18: “I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”

John 11:25: “I am the resurrection, and the life."

The Scripture also said that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead:

Romans 8:11: “The Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead…”

1 Peter 3:18: “…put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.”

you need to listen to your own words, "You only quote references of scriptures that appears to support your opinions and ignore many others that says otherwise."

John.2.22 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the Scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

Wouldn't it had made more sense if apostle John had written after Jesus rose himself up from the dead.
Listen I will resurrect when Jesus returns, I will raise up, but those that mean I am the one doing it or those that make me God.

Thank God you quoted John 10:17-18, issue is you didn't actually quote all that's in those verse, did you now because you subtly left out the part where Jesus said it is God's command, so the authority Jesus had and exercised, John understood it from Jesus to be by God's command.

You know how Mary responded to what Jesus said in John 11:25
John.11.27 "Yes, Lord," she told him, "I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world."

Is it not wonderful that you quoted
Rom.8.11 The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as he raised Christ from the dead, he will give life to your mortal body by this same Spirit living within you.

You though you asked did Jesus lie about raising himself from the dead, even when you know he never raised himself by himself but God did

Re: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Boomark(op): 8:59pm On Aug 21, 2025

gohf:
should I say I am surprised or not, I mean I was expecting ken4christ to say you are wrong after giving you option A B C and D, but he just goes ahead and starts defending his logic and doctrine, irrespective of the scriptures that tell us otherwise

He started by telling me not to beat around the bush. I responded with by choosing from the options he gave. Now he beating around the bush and refusing to chose any option.

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