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If I were to be among Alaafin's advisers ...
Will just tell him to as well install another person as Okanlomo of Yorubaland ...instead of calling that celebrity king that attends all parties out Everytime..,

So it's the people and judiciary that will settles the authentic Okanlomo between them

That guy ma very stupid guy pushing by some fools I swear… I can’t blame him at all. Lolz

Slytiger:
This Alaafin dey misbehave. This is what happens when you bypass Oyo mesi to install an Alaafin.

What is the Alaafin going to do after 48 hours

He is already collecting wotowoto on Facebook.

Alaafin & his Media Aide Warning!

By Elu Omo Elu

Whoever should be appointed to write for a palace like that of Alaafin should be someone with deep sense of wisdom and knowledge. That warning piece by whoever writes it as Bode Durojaiye is not only embarrassing but also unimaginable with those disparaging words used. Yorùbá will say pẹlẹ lakọ o labo.

This year will make it the 10th year of Ooni Ogunwusi on the throne and there has never been anytime, the king or the media arm of Ooni disrespect the institution of Alaafin, either in writings, in discussions or interviews. Never!

Ooni Ogunwusi and Late Alaafin Adeyemi have never had cause to exchange words on anything, not even on Yoruba. They never did, as I can recollect. Not on superiority, not on titles, and not even in relationships. Ooni seek and earned that love.

Similarly, Ifẹ and the people have always shown love to the Ọyọs but the same, has never been reciprocated.

When Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi became a king in 2015, he paid homage to Alaafin in Ọyọ in an historic event, as a mark of respect to someone who is already on the throne before him, but for every hands of love, it is always one day of cry, another day of anger and one wonders if this is an agenda to draw the so called Yoruba land into pre colonial days ethnical banditry as warmongers. It's sad.

On the recent unfounded noise of one title, it is a known fact that Ooni's Chieftaincy title to anyone for years as far back as 1980s bears Ifẹ in it. Ifẹ is such an historical place to many YORUBAs and with sense of pride, it's nothing to hide and replace for Yoruba land.

In many cases, it's many towns that trace their root to Ifẹ, and this is a role Ifẹ has always served. The root, the source, the cradle and custodian. Even the history of Ọyọ and the those who came from Ọyọ can not be completed without mentioning Ifẹ.

There will never be an Ọyọ town without someone coming from Ile-Ife to settle in Ọyọ. Pick any history book of Ọyọ today, you will see Ile-Ife ancestry there. This is the same ties many Yoruba towns have with Ifẹ. The Ijesha, the Ekitis, the Ìgbómìnàs, the Akokos, the Okuns, to the Itshekiris and lots of many sub ethnic groups who have historical connections to Ifẹ. This is to show the Ifẹ place in what they call Yorùbá land today and the common heritage we share and why the name Ifẹ can not be subdued for any YORUBAland. Ifẹ is enough.

Notable title holders like Chief Obafemi Awolowo, his wife HID, and many politicians that Ooni Sijuade gave titles to in 2004 including Atiku, Gov Odili all either have Ifẹ or the Source in it. You have titles like Odole of Ifẹ, Baamofin of the Source, Yeyeluwa Oodua etc.

The biggest title that the present Ooni Ọba Adeyeye has given anyone in the last 10yrs is the Odole of Ife to Chief Kessington Adebutu and it has nothing like Yorubaland in it.

The latest title as announced by the man to be conferred, Dotun Sanusi shows clearly Okanlomo Odua. The man Jubril Dotun Sanusi wrote that clearly on his Facebook account 12hrs ago, only for Bode Durojaiye to rush to his page 6hrs after and start warning on behalf of the king with lies of "Yorubaland" usage. Anyone can search these posts which I will put in comment box.

I wonder if Mr Bode hates the man Jubril Sanusi or he just want to create attention, tension and use that opportunity to attack Ooni. This is also sad.

On the said publication, I have seen many people calling Ifes bad names and I wonder how someone will sit in his house quietly looking for what to eat and survive and some people somewhere in this age and time will mischievously be insulting others for mundane power arrogance. This is also disturbing.

I want to believe that Alaafin Owoade has no hand in this, because some of us have respected him since he emerged and accorded him the respect he deserves. I will be utterly disappointed if he does, because a good leader don't allow such.

Nigeria and today's YORUBA society is governed by Law and State governors appoint leaders of each community as guided by Law. OSUN State installed Ooni over Ifẹ people. And Ọyọ state installed Alaafin over his Ọyọ domain.

Everyone can call himself what he likes, it's allowed but no one should use their office to cause mayhem in the society with sensational posts capable of disrupting the peace and tranquility we currently enjoy. We expect everyone to man their post, and bring development to their people in their own little capacity. This is the Yoruba will look forward to.

As we await the 48hrs expiring date of the so called warning on nothing, and while Ooni always continue to look away as always - I hope people are keeping records of events.

Tomorrow is always another day.

©Elu Ọmọ Elu

Loool. The “Bini boys” would be happy with this news. 😂🤣.

alafin of oyo is right, ooni of ile ife was just custodian of yoruba deity before awolowo elevated him to a king statue . ooni is not a king,the same way awolowo start calling olu itshekri olu of warri which is causing problems in warri till today, Awo causing problem in every community

DMerciful:
If not the coming of the whites and the creation of the Nigerian State, Yorubas will still be in the kiriji never-ending war

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You are uninformed, go and read history and During the colonial Era Alaafin controls the youruba, highest paid monarch, you can confirm with AI if you are last. Don't waste your existence by criticizing Alaafin.

Slytiger:
This Alaafin dey misbehave. This is what happens when you bypass Oyo mesi to install an Alaafin.

What is the Alaafin going to do after 48 hours

He is already collecting wotowoto on Facebook.

You are a kid, Google history of yorubaland and During the colonial era

Slytiger:
The monarchies in Owo, Benin, Owu, Ketu (Benin Republic) e.t.c are all older than Alaafin. He should go and rest.

Because Oyo became militarily powerful for 2 centuries from 1500 to 1700 before being sacked by the Fulanis does not mean it will have authority over earlier powerful kingdoms let alone in 2025 when these titles are honorary

Shikena:
No be only Okanlomo of Yorubaland.

Na MC Oluomo of Ife Land. Orishirishi

Baba don collect roger

This writing 'gets as e b sha'. But if this truly came out from the authority of the Alafin, then sane mind within the region should be worried of the future

NSK4U:
This writing 'gets as e b sha'. But if this truly came out from the authority of the Alafin, then sane mind within the region should be worried of the future

There is no big deal here, it's just that most folks are ignorant of the past.

In 1991, Ooni Sijuwade attempted to make a rich politician, Chief Tom Ikimi, the Akinrogun of Yorubaland. Alaafin Adeyemi III objected with a cease and desist. Ooni backtracked and made him Akinrogun of Ife.

This is not new at all and nothing to sweat on, there are few other instances. Ooni should simply stick within his limits on this.

The issue will die down naturally, some people will foam in the mouth while facing uncomfortable reality, people will learn new lessons, and life will go on.

As for me, Nigeria should eliminate the monarchy system and concentrate on democracy only. The kings in Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, and the rest have becoming unnecessary.

fergie001:
#AlaafinOoni


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Oduduwa Is The First Crowned King In The World- Ooni Of Ife Declares On Ilaji Fm

Mine is that no one or king disrespects or fights the Ooni and wouldn't receive a
setback or unpleasant situation; no matter how small. It happened to Oba Akiolu, it happened to KWAM 1, it recently happened to Alaafin as Oyo state house of assembly signals to officially remove the oyo chiefs permanent chairmanship from his reach. What unfolds now!

I wish a time would come when out traditional rulers would stay out of demeaning social media clashes.

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casualobserver:
If they had taught you history you will know why.


There is a reason opa oranmiyan stands proud in Ife today. Who is oranmiyan? The 1st ALaafin of Oyo. The heir to the throne in ife who returned from Benin to find his father the king of ife dead and an ursurper on the throne. As from that point every one on the throne in ife is not a bloodline of Oduduwa.


As for ALaafin, the recent “supremacy”. of the ooni is a recent thing that was artificially created by Awolowo because the then ALaafin refused to support Awolowo’s action group. Prior to that the supremacy of the ALaafin was never in question. So when you say no ALaafin has ever disrespected the Ooni it is because prior to Aderemi, everybody knew the ALaafin was superior and no Ooni acted like he was superior to the ALaafin.

From the time Oranmiyan left Ife to become the 1st ALaafin of Oyo, have you ever heard any historical accounts of any OOni of ife until Adesoji Aderemi? Why suddenly did the ooni become important in the 1950s? Because that was after Awolowo elevated the throne in ife above the ALaafin for political reasons.

Your own history is so flawed. Firstly, Oranmiyan was neither the 1st born nor last born of Oduduwa. Secondly, Alaafin is neither the first born nor last born of Oranmiyan. Even if the Oonis aren't the descendants of Oduduwa as you wrongfully said, they're pure Ife people, If not, Ife people and their Elus/leaders wouldn't have accepted them. Also note that Oduduwa never established Ile-Ife. Several leaders like Oranfe, Agbọnmiregun, Obatala etc had ruled Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa.
You said there was no known Ooni before Sir Adesoji Aderemi after Oranmiyan? You're joking, right? The likes of Obamakin, Ogun, Obalufon, Ogbogbodirin, Lajemisan, and those who reigned during the colonial era like Derin Ologbenla, Olubuse 1 (that every other Oba including Alaafin vacated their thrones for when he travelled to Lagos), Ademoluyi Ajagun looked like a joke to you?

casualobserver:
Your problem is history was banned while you went to school. If you know your history you will know why.

Provide the history books you were taught with here and show us what the history taught you. Oyo Rose to power in 14th century and collapsed in 17th century. Owu, Owo, Ijesaland, Ijebuland, ugbo(Ilaje), Idanre are all more ancient than the most ancient Oyo settlement.

Raf4:
Your own history is so flawed. Firstly, Oranmiyan was neither the 1st born nor last born of Oduduwa. Secondly, Alaafin is neither the first born nor last born of Oranmiyan. Even if the Oonis aren't the descendants of Oduduwa as you wrongfully said, they're pure Ife people, If not, Ife people and their Elus/leaders wouldn't have accepted them. Also note that Oduduwa never established Ile-Ife. Several leaders like Oranfe, Agbọnmiregun, Obatala etc had ruled Ile-Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa.
You said there was no known Ooni before Sir Adesoji Aderemi after Oranmiyan? You're joking, right? The likes of Obamakin, Ogun, Obalufon, Ogbogbodirin, Lajemisan, and those who reigned during the colonial era like Derin Ologbenla, Olubuse 1 (that every other Oba including Alaafin vacated their thrones for when he travelled to Lagos), Ademoluyi Ajagun looked like a joke to you?

your 1st problem is your english comprehension. First of all i never said oranmiyan was the 1st or last born of Oduduwa, some accounts will tell you he was a grandson. I never said ooni's are not pure ife people. stop making things up. I am a descendant of a past exiled OOni. what i said was all the ooni's from the time oranmiyan left ife till Aderemi was elevated above the Allafin are curiously absent in the stories of Yorubaland, wheras most stories revolve around the many Alaafins.

you are free to believe whatever story you want. Abuse and insults will not force me to accept your version. I have a functional brain, I am not an Obidient. i am a descendant of an OOni, it is in my interest for the OOni to be the superior King but from what I have read, on the balance of probability, he isnt. The the stool in ife is the throne of the yorubas i am not doubting that but based on the fact that I beleieve the story of the traditional priest ursurping the throne and oranmiyan leaving to establish his own kingdom leaving the OPA behind. there is no evidence that that priest was removed and the occupant is a descendant of oduduwa and therefore his descemdants. for me the ooni's are a line from the traditonal preist who ursurped the throne. thats the version that makes sense to me, thats the version i believe....you can shout and insult me from here to ife and back. I have a list of my ancestors to about 1500AD, even my elders are fuzzy on actual details so no unknown from the internet is going to convince me otherwise when professors and people who have actuaklly spent their lives studying ife history say otherwise.

In any event, since we dont document our history, no one can claim 100% accuracy to his story. its all theories, probalities, possibilities and likelyhoods. If you have to insult people to accept your version, your version is likely false!

this is a topic of last week. i dont have time for further engagement especially with someone with poor english comprehension who says i said things i didnt say.

Raf4:
Provide the history books you were taught with here and show us what the history taught you. Oyo Rose to power in 14th century and collapsed in 17th century. Owu, Owo, Ijesaland, Ijebuland, ugbo(Ilaje), Idanre are all more ancient than the most ancient Oyo settlement.

I don’t have to prove anything to you. Stop disturbing me or I’ll block you.

The respected academic historians on Ife are known!

Raf4:
Provide the history books you were taught with here and show us what the history taught you. Oyo Rose to power in 14th century and collapsed in 17th century. Owu, Owo, Ijesaland, Ijebuland, ugbo(Ilaje), Idanre are all more ancient than the most ancient Oyo settlement.

Apologies, my issue was always that Oranmiyan left ile-ife leaving behind an Ooni that wasn’t an Oduduwa blood line. On that basis I had always believed the Ooni wasn’t a Oduduwa bloodline.

Somehow or the other (I guess old age is catching up with me). I was shocked to be told by the head of our family line that Oranmiyan came back to Ife to reclaim his stool leaving behind his son as Alaafin in Oyo and later Ooni in ife. So the Oduduwa bloodline was indeed restored in ife.

I eat humble pie and you are free to gloat, I deserve it. I had read many historical accounts and it is embarrassing that I missed or likely forgot the account of Oranmiyan returning to Ife.

I shall delete all previous erroneous posts.

casualobserver:
I am a descendant of a past exiled OOni. .

May be you wanted to say that you were a descendant of a past exiled Alaafin. There's no history of any exiled or deposed OOni, never! This just exposed you and your bias.

Raf4:
May be you wanted to say that you were a descendant of a past exiled Alaafin. There's no history of any exiled or deposed OOni, never! This just exposed you and your bias.

Enjoy your win! The way you engage alone is such that one doesn’t want engage you.

This time I suggest you read your history. We weren’t the only ones.

I was humble enough to admit I was wrong without prompting. Don’t push it!

Good day!