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Whether our Lord Jesus is white or black leave that,the questions are: are you born again,has your sins been forgiven,is your name in the book life,if you die today are you sure of heaven,these are the questions that you need to consider and do something about.

It's not inconsequential because it (would) also mean the jews were black, and the promises and prophesies in the bible were primarily for blacks.

Sheesh, think a little bro

damosky12:
It is inconsequential if Jesus was white or black.

But then, historically, he was a middle Eastern, a 1st century Galilean. He was not white, but wasn't black.

Believe whatever you want... One day the truth will surface...until then there's no point arguing..

Kukutente23:
You've started showing your ignorance of the bible
who rejected Jesus?

Jews of course, up till today.

Jesus is not black and he can never ever be black

Jesus remains a white man god and his relevance has passed. Jesus stories were created to fulfill some missions of control and colonization and those have long been fulfilled..
The whites no longer bother about this myths.
But come to Africa, the people that they use Jesus to scam and enslave are still in bondage and still arguing whether Jesus is black or white
It doesn’t matter his color, he’s a superhero holy myth

DeepSight:
Jews of course, up till today.

Wrong answer
The Pharisees and the Sanhedrin rejected Jesus
Another quiz for you
Why did they reject Jesus?

Kukutente23:
Wrong answer
The Pharisees and the Sanhedrin rejected Jesus
Another quiz for you
Why did they reject Jesus?

It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

DeepSight:
It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

Barabas could have been while while Jesus was black, you have a point there, it is only on racist ground that Jesus could have been rejected.

Are you saying similar thing is happening in Nigeria

DeepSight:
It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

You made a valid point,very deep and thoughtful why did the Jews reject Jesus up till today if there decision is not based on racism, there's no other reason one can think of

DeepSight:
It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

Wrong again. Jesus was generally accepted as one of the prophets by the generality of the Jews. Everywhere he went crowds and multitudes of people followed him. Their text told them that the Messiah will come as one of the prophets. When he entered Jerusalem before the Passover, he was widely hailed as the Messiah the son of David by the multitude. Remember that the Passover is the feast before their liberation from Egypt.

Their disappointment with him happened after he entered the temple when they expected him to start playing the role of Messiah, which is to liberate them from Roman rule. He did not do that and thus they felt le t down by him.

The Jews today reject Jesus as the son of God. That is the part that they do not accept about him and of course that he is the Messiah since he never did what they have believed all their lives that the Messaiah was coming to do.

[quote author=Kingray10 post=136584123]When these European came to Africa they sold the notion that Jesus was White. [/quote

You guys should stop these funny narrative that jesus was black, because of the type of ink the earliest painter chose to use in his image, jesus was a Jew and Jews were never at any point in time referred as black, even in those dark images you can still clearly see his nose 👃 shape looking more like the present day Arab people.

Ttalk:
Barabas could have been while while Jesus was black, you have a point there, it is only on racist ground that Jesus could have been rejected.

Are you saying similar thing is happening in Nigeria

No. You are very wrong. Barabbas was not a bandit like they made us believe as children. He was a freedom fighter who led an uprising against the Romans but was captured. Jesus Christ was preaching something they saw as very abstract. So who do you think they would prefer?

Kukutente23:
Wrong again. Jesus was generally accepted as one of the prophets by the generality of the Jews. Everywhere he went crowds and multitudes of people followed him. Their text told them that the Messiah will come as one of the prophets. When he entered Jerusalem before the Passover, he was widely hailed as the Messiah the son of David by the multitude. Remember that the Passover is the feast before their liberation from Egypt.

Their disappointment with him happened after he entered the temple when they expected him to start playing the role of Messiah, which is to liberate them from Roman rule. He did not do that and thus they felt le t down by him.

The Jews today reject Jesus as the son of God. That is the part that they do not accept about him and of course that he is the Messiah since he never did what they have believed all their lives that the Messaiah was coming to do.

Be honest, do Jews today accept Jesus even as one of their Prophets? Be honest.
At best an itinerant Rabbi.

DeepSight:
Be honest, do Jews today accept Jesus even as one of their Prophets? Be honest.
At best an itinerant Rabbi.

The Jews today are a misguided group
They only accept the Old Testament and their Talmud as sacred text so any prophet not mentioned there is not one as far as they are concerned
So you are now mixing things up. Or you mean jews today do not accept Jesus because he was black? Don't tell me you swallow that crap

Kemetian:
Jesus and the Saints/Apostles Etc... Thousands more images like this are posted on Pinterest by Europeans from their archives and churches.

Kemetian, you are indeed very ignorant. But as usual I'm here to destroy your misinformation because I know there are many benighted people here.
Jesus could never be black. He was a Jew. Jews are perceived as dark skinned by the whites. If he came out of the middle East of course he would look like an Arab. They're darker than mainland Europeans.

Apart from that artistic impressions could be different from the main thing most of the time. Below are paintings of Jesus and Mary far older than the ones you posted. He was not depicted as black in them. So why should we go with your narrative that Jesus and Mary were black because some artists used black paints on their portraits? It must be easy to deceive gullible people like you. Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't white but he wasn't black as well.[/quote]

Kukutente23:
The Jews today are a misguided group
They only accept the Old Testament and their Talmud as sacred text so any prophet not mentioned there is not one as far as they are concerned
So you are now mixing things up. Or you mean jews today do not accept Jesus because he was black? Don't tell me you swallow that crap

Dont be funny. Me that questions whether Jesus existed at all will now be saying that he was black? Of course not. I was only picking you up on your own logic, to train you as your coach.

Reflect7:
Some negroes are just an embarrassment.

Tufiakwa.

Utter embarrassment. You see a pure black man, but COMPLEX stops you from admitting it’s a black man.

If those were SLAVES being portrayed, he would never say they are not black.

Our people’s minds have been destroyed by the British.

Tufia.

DeepSight:
Dont be funny. Me that questions whether Jesus existed at all will now be saying that he was black? Of course not. I was only picking you up on your own logic, to train you as your coach.

Lol Coach indeed
I see you've gone cold after been well tutored by Unbiased1 on the other thread. Your sanctimonious ramblings and posturing over a matter you have fragile knowledge of has unraveled.

Jesus did exist. If he did not there will be no pilgrimage today. The Jews have never doubted or denied his existence even till today. So rest with your new course you're veering towards

Obaaderemi2:
Kemetian, you are indeed very ignorant. But as usual I'm here to destroy your misinformation because I know there are many benighted people here.
Jesus could never be black. He was a Jew. Jews are perceived as dark skinned by the whites. If he came out of the middle East of course he would look like an Arab. They're darker than mainland Europeans.

Apart from that artistic impressions could be different from the main thing most of the time. Below are paintings of Jesus and Mary far older than the ones you posted. He was not depicted as black in them. So why should we go with your narrative that Jesus and Mary were black because some artists used black paints on their portraits? It must be easy to deceive gullible people like you. Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't white but he wasn't black as well.

Everyone note.

He showed us ONE picture of a white man that looks like a child’s drawing from last year.

That single picture, in his head, destroys the THOUSANDS of medieval images of Black Hebrews presented here and in PINTEREST.

Dude, WHERE did you get that picture from?

Give us the link!

Let’s see if we can find MORE.

1 dodgy picture is not enough.

Also, AI ChatGPT describes the Ancient Hebrews as BLACKS.

Do you know more than AI?

matrix199:
Mary fine, why Jesus no go fine?

But wait, if Mary na Jews, how will Jesus be black?

Mary and Jesus were not black. Don't let that boy deceive you. He's ignorant.
Artists can choose whatever materials they like to represent whatever or whoever. Artistic representations are not always straightforward. Black connotes power. That could be the reason Jesus was depicted as black in a few old paintings of him. But the earliest paintings didn't depict him as white. If Europeans were racists as they've shown over and over in the past, why would they bow to a black image of Christ if they believed it just represented his true appearance? They knew the blackness was just symbolic.

Below is an ancient sculpture of Zeus the most reverred European god. He is black in the statue. Does that make Europeans and Greeks black?
When I tell people this kemetian boy is demented, they think it's a joke

Kukutente23:
Lol Coach indeed
I see you've gone cold after been well tutored by Unbiased1 on the other thread. Your sanctimonious ramblings and posturing over a matter you have fragile knowledge of has unraveled.

Not at all. Taking my time. He hasnt told me a single thing I didnt know. His problem is the same as most Nigerians - a bias towards defending the atrocities of Israel no matter what and a tendency to accept cruelty so long as it is in favor of the "chosen race." Remember you and your justification of the tearing of children to pieces over a joke? Something like that.

Jesus did exist. If he did not there will be no pilgrimage today. The Jews have never doubted or denied his existence even till today. So rest with your new course you're veering towards

I havent said he didnt exst either.

Kemetian:
Everyone note.

He showed us ONE picture of a white man that looks like a child’s drawing from last year.

That single picture, in his head, destroys the THOUSANDS of medieval images of Black Hebrews presented here and in PINTEREST.

Dude, WHERE did you get that picture from?

Give us the link!

Let’s see if we can find MORE.

1 dodgy picture is not enough.

Also, AI ChatGPT describes the Ancient Hebrews as BLACKS.

Do you know more than AI?

Ode, ai is garbage in garbage out.

Besides I gave you two images. Why are you running from the second image if you admit your eyesight is too poor to see the first one clearly?
The second image is from the 3rd century. All the ones you have posted are from the 11th century upwards.

Kukutente23:
Lol
Jews were discriminatory against blacks in history
Any Jew who was born black was always deemed cursed due to Ham being black and cursed in the Bible
So anyone saying Jesus was black is simply being ignorant

Stop lying through your teeth.

What “history” are you talking about?

When? Where?

Obaaderemi2:
Kemetian, you are indeed very ignorant. But as usual I'm here to destroy your misinformation because I know there are many benighted people here.
Jesus could never be black. He was a Jew. Jews are perceived as dark skinned by the whites. If he came out of the middle East of course he would look like an Arab. They're darker than mainland Europeans.

Apart from that artistic impressions could be different from the main thing most of the time. Below are paintings of Jesus and Mary far older than the ones you posted. He was not depicted as black in them. So why should we go with your narrative that Jesus and Mary were black because some artists used black paints on their portraits? It must be easy to deceive gullible people like you. Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't white but he wasn't black as well.

I disagree with your point above.

If there's anything to go by, the Bible is a book that is known for its vivid descriptive and excellent usage of precise adjective to narrate its story.

There's no way it could have used black to describe brown if indeed they were brown.

Many places in the Bible actually described different races by their colour that even predates the birth of Jesus like how the Ethiopian were described.

Though am not arguing whether Jesus was black or white but the Bible didn't explicitly describe Jesus as white.

dollypi:
It's not inconsequential because it also means the jews were black, and the promises and prophesies in the bible were primarily for blacks.

Sheesh, think a little bro

You need to take that your advice to sheesh. It'll save you this tomfoolery.

The Jews were not black. If you know the Bible you're alluding to, you'd know how Miriam and Aaron reacted to Moses marrying a cushite. Perhaps you'd know how Solomon painted how the Shulamite in his love poems was sidelined for being black. Maybe you'd have seen how Simon of Cerene (man who helped Christ with the cross) was singled out in description as being black.

Maybe you should sheesh a little. Then think through the data you're alluding to,and stop being dumbly emotive in your desperation to make Jesus black.

Christ wasn't black. No solid dats, Biblical or Historical, shows this.

Obaaderemi2:
Ode, ai is garbage in garbage out.

Nahh….You don’t get to do that here.

We and the rest of the World trust AI research 200 quadrillion times more than we trust what YOU say.

NASA scientists and professionals of the highest ranking use AI in ALL their work and research today.

Who are you?

Besides I gave you two images. Why are you running from the second image if you admit your eyesight is too poor to see the first one clearly?
The second image is from the 3rd century. All the ones you have posted are from the 11th century upwards.

What is the SOURCE of your image?

Show us the LINK.

Are you scared?

damosky12:
You need to take that your advice to sheesh. It'll save you this tomfoolery.

The Jews were not black. If you know the Bible you're alluding to, you'd know how Miriam and Aaron reacted to Moses marrying a cushite. Perhaps you'd know how Solomon painted how the Shulamite in his love poems was sidelined for being black. Maybe you'd have seen how Simon of Cerene (man who helped Christ with the cross) was singled out in description as being black.

Maybe you should sheesh a little. Then think through the data you're alluding to,and stop being dumbly emotive in your desperation to make Jesus black.

Christ wasn't black. No solid dats, Biblical or Historical, shows this.

If Christ wasn’t black, why are all the ancient paintings of him and the Hebrews of BLACK PEOPLE with kinky hair?

Is there something wrong with your eyes?

https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/e6/16/2e/e6162ea31883fe6967bf756aa93a7071.jpg

Kushites:
If Christ wasn’t black, why are all the ancient paintings of him and the Hebrews of BLACK PEOPLE with kinky hair?

Is there something wrong with your eyes?

https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/e6/16/2e/e6162ea31883fe6967bf756aa93a7071.jpg

No. Something is wrong with your mind. And it's illiteracy! I was comprehensive enough to put this better.

These pictures from Egypt have constantly been unproven to not be as old as they claim to be.

The earliest paintings of Jesus traced to the 4th century project Jesus as a Jew. Not an European nor black African. He was neither white nor black. The Shroud of Turin is even older. And it's the same thing. Ancient historical writings on Kristus had nothing claiming he was black.

It's rather foolish to be obsessed with Jesus being black. Being black was very very unlikely for a 1st century Galilean. He merely looked like a Galilien. The darkest he could have been was light brown. Not black. Silly I'm even having this convo.

damosky12:
No. Something is wrong with your mind. And it's illiteracy! I was comprehensive enough to put this better.

These pictures from Egypt have constantly been unproven to not be as old as they claim to be.

The earliest paintings of Jesus traced to the 4th century project Jesus as a Jew. Not an European nor black African. He was neither white nor black. The Shroud of Turin is even older. And it's the same thing. Ancient historical writings on Kristus had nothing claiming he was black.

It's rather foolish to be obsessed with Jesus being black. Being black was very very unlikely for a 1st century Galilean. He merely looked like a Galilien. The darkest he could have been was light brown. Not black. Silly I'm even having this convo.

These pictures are not “from Egypt”.

They are from EUROPE.

Posted by Europeans on Pinterest, which holds literally thousands of such paintings.

I repeat: WHY are ALL the ancient paintings of Jesus and Hebrews of BLACK PEOPLE?

Don’t tell us something different from what our EYES are seeing.

Don’t insult our intelligence here.

Who are you?

Kushites:
Stop lying through your teeth.

What “history” are you talking about?

When? Where?

Biblical history

Kukutente23:
Biblical history

Biblical history?

Go and read Zephaniah 3:10

The bible DIRECTLY STATES that the “Dispersed” will return “from beyond the rivers of Ethiopia”.

Meaning from BLACK AFRICA.

Amos 9:7 “Are you not just like the ETHIOPIANS unto me, o children of Israel?”

Note he didn’t say like the Romans, Arabs or Greeks, or all the white Europeans in Israel claiming to be “Jews” today.

ETHIOPIANS, He said. The ancient term for all Black Africans.

You people don’t read the parts of the bible you’re supposed to read.

DeepSight:
Not at all. Taking my time. He hasnt told me a single thing I didnt know. His problem is the same as most Nigerians - a bias towards defending the atrocities of Israel no matter what and a tendency to accept cruelty so long as it is in favor of the "chosen race." Remember you and your justification of the tearing of children to pieces over a joke? Something like that.



I havent said he didnt exst either.

Take your time. Do you research well. The good man made strong points. The biggest flaw in your argument is your refusal to accept that ethnicity and religious bias are the bedrock of the issues over there. He laid it bare for you in ways that blew you off your perch.

So why bring up his existence if you don't doubt it.