₦airaland Forum

slivertongue:
What's ADC's business with the internal politicking of a party that to a large extent is out to help her?

ADC shouldn't be a meddlesome interloper but rather face her front because Nigerians are looking up to her for rescue from hopelessness.

Better still they should zone their own to atiku,like anyone cares......that will be the final death knell on the party.

slivertongue:
What's ADC's business with the internal politicking of a party that to a large extent is out to help her?

ADC shouldn't be a meddlesome interloper but rather face her front because Nigerians are looking up to her for rescue from hopelessness.

Lol. You are not fooling anyone. Obvious you are one of those looking for revenge against Tinubu who robbed you of "Igbo Presidency".

Otherwise you will not label a party fronted by Atiku, Malami, Dino Melaye, Babachir Lawal, Hadi Sirika and so many other looters and failures as "rescuers" of Nigeria.

No normal Nigerians will see the above name and then vote ADC so that, as one example, Malami can return as AGF to aid the Fulani expansionist agenda in the South he did not complete under Buhari.
Oga, we see you well well.

If ADC fails to follow the trend and zone their ticket to the south East it will die a natural death.

The general consensus is that the south East should produce the president come 2027

Justnation:
If ADC fails to follow the trend and zone their ticket to the south East it will die a natural death.

The general consensus is that the south East should produce the president come 2027

Whose "general" consensus is that bar that of you lot from the SE alone? 2027 is for the South. That is the only thing reasonable Nigerians agree upon.

Tell your Igbo candidate,i.e Obi, to fight like a man for once in his life because that is what someone fitting to be President will do.

Nigeria does not owes you 2027 "consensus Igbo Presidency". Mind you, I do agree with you the ADC should zone her ticket to the SE.

Let us see who the Northern voters would be 'herded' to vote for. Obi who can constitutionally do 8 years or Tinubu limited to only 4 years Constitutionally from 2027.😎

If maintaining rotation of the presidency is still on, Bola Tinubu shouldn't have contested in 2023, he shouldn't contest in 2027.
Rotation shouldn't continue to be between the Southwest and the North of Nigeria.

FutureFocus:
Atiku blew the game open the moment he left pdp for ADC, other now have hope to use PDP platform to contest the next election, if he was still there while talking alliance with ADC , till early next years, people won’t have enough time to organize or present a candidate for PDP, he didn’t do his home work well, he couldn’t even plant loyalist like wike does, wike appear to be smarter by not leaving PDP entirely

ADC won’t go far because I don’t think Atiku will be ready to dole out funds in ADC like wike was doing in PDP , ADC is yet to have major financiers

you've spoken well why fault it with your last paragraph, .... Uncle going by Atiku election records... asides going FAR how about " how well"

If you have made these assumption before the advent of labour party/23 maybe it would have being valid But 2023 election as shown A party can gather stunning votes without financier like Atiku or wike

Nigerians are taya of Apc bullshit, apart from the uselezz party should any opposition present an ideal candidate love by north n south ... Nigerians will throw APc out without Atiku money

onuman:
If maintaining rotation of the presidency is still on, Bola Tinubu shouldn't have contested in 2023, he shouldn't contest in 2027.
Rotation shouldn't continue to be between the Southwest and the North of Nigeria.

Are you not ashamed to show prejudice against SW so openly?

You say Presidency is being rotated between SW and North whereas the factually correct scenario is that the Presidency is being rotated between North and South.

This is because , by your myopic talk, surely driven by prejudice against the SW, many Northerners can also argue Presidency is being rotated between the Fulanis ( Yar Adua 2007, Buhari 2015 and Atiku's attempt in 2023) and the South.

Where does it then end if every ethnic group talk to make legitimate claim of marginalisation?

The only equitable scenario is for Presidency to rotate between North and South so that players from the North and South negotiate internally to produce the candidate who will stand for them.

Micro-zoning cannot ever be part of the general agreement , because it will create too much conflict, meaning Nigeria can only agree rotation is between North and South with everything else beyond that point left to internal regional agreements.

Pretty sure you are Igbo so let me tell you that Igbos will never be consensus candidate of APC until you people stop threating your attempt to be President as war against Yorubas rather than recognising you need them.

When it is the turn of the South in 2039, Yorubas will support South South to run on the slot of the South.

We owe you lot nothing as you have shown, beyond doubt, you do not mean us well.

sreamsense:
This act of lamentation from ADC shows it is a party for Atiku. PDP showcasing southern zoning has really put .ore pressure on ADC indirectly. Atiku is now left with ADC option, Obi and Amechi will soon cry and cite unnecessary reason for leaving ADC.Now, that PDP has closed his party to Atiku or northern candidate, Atiku now own ADC. Obi should pack his load back to LP

PDP zoning the ticket to the south will hurt tinubu more than it will hurt atiku. If Obi contest alone it will reduce tinubus hotel in south south, south east and north central. If atiku manages to get the core north and 25 percent spread he will win. You can argue it if you care

FutureFocus:
Atiku blew the game open the moment he left pdp for ADC, other now have hope to use PDP platform to contest the next election, if he was still there while talking alliance with ADC , till early next years, people won’t have enough time to organize or present a candidate for PDP, he didn’t do his home work well, he couldn’t even plant loyalist like wike does, wike appear to be smarter by not leaving PDP entirely

ADC won’t go far because I don’t think Atiku will be ready to dole out funds in ADC like wike was doing in PDP , ADC is yet to have major financiers

Who was LP financer in the last election?

BarrElChapo:
Lmao. This ADC are bunch of jokes o! Since they came together for coalition they’ve been all talk no action. Let’s be watching, too many captains would soon sink that ship

They are as useless as the present government. Since both emerged no tangible progress. The country keep sliding backwards. It is a shame

This one pain ADC and and Atiku... Pain went straight.. even barr Deji no fit comment for him oga..

Atiku and power mongers few elite North power brokers , ADC thought it's game as usual.. they thought they are dealing with same weak Jonathan type of South.

But No Baba silent doer GCFR Emilokan says no 2 can Play.

Peter Obi the hope and light 🕯️ of every common Nigerian ,the breaker of system with results says no 3 can play

Lolz ADC now in crying 😭😭 mood.

2027 Peter Obi is the best.

Or Tinubu continue his silence achievement and brain resetting to parasitic entities. And selfish old systemic interests.

searchlight:
PDP zoning the ticket to the south will hurt tinubu more than it will hurt atiku. If Obi contest alone it will reduce tinubus hotel in south south, south east and north central. If atiku manages to get the core north and 25 percent spread he will win. You can argue it if you care

Anything PDP does is to favour Tinubu. As far as obi doesn't align with Atiku, it's a win for Tinubu. Tinubu and atiku will share the north

It's not too early when they are cross carpeting and taking over the mantles of leadership in ADC.

WizardOfNG:
Whose "general" consensus is that bar that of you lot from the SE alone? 2027 is for the South. That is the only thing reasonable Nigerians agree upon.

Tell your Igbo candidate,i.e Obi, to fight like a man for once in his life because that is what someone fitting to be President will do.

Nigeria does not owes you 2027 "consensus Igbo Presidency". Mind you, I do agree with you the ADC should zone her ticket to the SE.

Let us see who the Northern voters would be 'herded' to vote for. Obi who can constitutionally do 8 years or Tinubu limited to only 4 years Constitutionally from 2027.😎

In 1999 the presidency was micro zoned to the south west, PDP vs AD&ANPP alliance.
Tribal bigots like you never complained. Then it was okay.
To micro zone the same to south East is now a problem.

You all will regret this TRIBALISM and ethnic bigotry in future.

WizardOfNG:
Are you not ashamed to show prejudice against SW so openly?

You say Presidency is being rotated between SW and North whereas the factually correct scenario is that the Presidency is being rotated between North and South.

This is because , by your myopic talk, surely driven by prejudice against the SW, many Northerners can also argue Presidency is being rotated between the Fulanis ( Yar Adua 2007, Buhari 2015 and Atiku's attempt in 2023) and the South.

Where does it then end if every ethnic group talk to make legitimate claim of marginalisation?

The only equitable scenario is for Presidency to rotate between North and South so that players from the North and South negotiate internally to produce the candidate who will stand for them.

Micro-zoning cannot ever be part of the general agreement , because it will create too much conflict, meaning Nigeria can only agree rotation is between North and South with everything else beyond that point left to internal regional agreements.

Pretty sure you are Igbo so let me tell you that Igbos will never be consensus candidate of APC until you people stop threating your attempt to be President as war against Yorubas rather than recognising you need them.

When it is the turn of the South in 2039, Yorubas will support South South to run on the slot of the South.

We owe you lot nothing as you have shown, beyond doubt, you do not mean us well.

The SW people have never wished well the southsouth people. You Yarubawa people named GEJ CLUELESS, Ogogoro drinker, his wife a shippopotamus. You people wrecked GEJ presidency with incessant protests and blackmails. Alas, you people formed alliance with Buhari purposely to oust GEJ from office. Before then, you had rejected Buhari's presidential bids more than twice. But to oust GEJ, you bent down to lick your vomit in 2014.
OBJ from the Southwest used the turn of the SW between 1999-2007. Why would Tinubu claim it's his turn in 2023? After all, it should have been the turn of the southeast? Rotation of the presidency including at mico level sustains Nigeria, not Rotation between the Southwest and the north.

Justnation:

In 1999 the presidency was micro zoned to the south west, PDP vs AD&ANPP alliance.
Tribal bigots like you never complained. Then it was okay.
To micro zone the same to south East is now a problem.

You all will regret this TRIBALISM and ethnic bigotry in future.

Rubbish. Remember the injustice done to Yorubas that led to the death of Abiola ? If what happened to Abiola had happened to a Northerner, at the hands of Yoruba Military heads of State, would Nigeria not have burned seriously?

Of course the North knows what she got away with and why they had to compensate the Yorubas. You are the tribalist. Not me.

As per your silly threat, Yorubas have done the right things to make their region the most pivotally important in Nigeria unlike you globetrotting 'developers'.

No one can do anything to Yoruba. Not even the Igbo Presidency you think will give you such powers against us.

WizardOfNG:
Lol. You are not fooling anyone. Obvious you are one of those looking for revenge against Tinubu who robbed you of "Igbo Presidency".

Otherwise you will not label a party fronted by Atiku, Malami, Dino Melaye, Babachir Lawal, Hadi Sirika and so many other looters and failures as "rescuers" of Nigeria.

No normal Nigerians will see the above name and then vote ADC so that, as one example, Malami can return as AGF to aid the Fulani expansionist agenda in the South he did not complete under Buhari.
Oga, we see you well well.

Your are free to decieve yourself. APC is APC whether under GMB or tinubu. They are hardship personified and would voted out.

ADC don dey piss for pant already 🤣🤣🤣

Nigeria politicians are the most luckiest human bering…governing fools makes them very comfortable

searchlight:
PDP zoning the ticket to the south will hurt tinubu more than it will hurt atiku. If Obi contest alone it will reduce tinubus hotel in south south, south east and north central. If atiku manages to get the core north and 25 percent spread he will win. You can argue it if you care

Since you like deceit, you can continue to deceive yourself. If obi is elected for PDP, he can never win any substantial votes in the north based on religion ground. Northerners will subtly use the opportunity to pay back hatred of ipob and obidients on him. It will only increase Tinubu votes in the North.

Even southern Kaduna that Obi expect to get votes, he will be disappointed he will not get it because of the good effect of Tinubu to them. Obi can't get Abuja again, because of positive effect of Wike and Tinubu. Nasarawa will be on lock down for Tinubu majorly because of Lithium company.

PDP may end up in 3rd position for fielding Obi or in 2nd position with wide margin to APC. Obi won't get any 25% from any south west including Lagos since there is no fear of muslim-muslim ticket again. You better stop deceiving yourself! Even Obi going back to PDP will be used against him for being inconsistent and desperate politician. Except he gets no shame left, then he can go to PDP and increase his tally to 3 parties in one year

Kukutente23:
Where did they do that?
Any links to this piece of information?

Touche!

However, going by the realisation that Atiku has packed ADC with his PDP sychophants and has been known to bring his moneybags out at primaries, I don't think it's a wrong assumption to make.

ogododo:
https://punchng.com/adc-faults-early-zoning-says-pdp-apc-insensitive/

Wetin concern ADC with APC and PDP zoning.

The ADC should concentrate on their party and do that which pleases them.

slivertongue:
Your are free to decieve yourself. APC is APC whether under GMB or tinubu. They are hardship personified and would voted out.

Who is deceiving himself if not you? I just listed a few names, out of many, who ruined Nigeria yet are now stalwarts of your "rescuer" messiah ADC yet you said nothing about that to double down on attacking APC.

Do you even know what Malami did? Yet you are supporting a Party with hundred like him as members.

Again, I know your type and the revenge mission against Tinubu and Yorubas making you shamelessly cling to and pretend far worse demons are now "saviours" of Nigeria.

You are simply one of those "anyone but Yoruba President" crew. If not, and assuming you had even an iota of integrity, you will address the issue of why ADC is a congregation of some of the most leadership ruinous hands in Nigeria's history.

WizardOfNG:
You are simply one of those "anyone but Yoruba President" crew. If not, and assuming you had even an iota of integrity, you will address the issue of why ADC is a congregation of some of the most leadership ruinous hands in Nigeria's history.

An Obidient with an iota of integrity, you sef are asking for too much.

Don't you realise if they had that one iota of integrity, they won't be Obidients?

WizardOfNG:
Who is deceiving himself if not you? I just listed a few names, out of many, who ruined Nigeria yet are now stalwarts of your "rescuer" messiah ADC yet you said nothing about that to double down on attacking APC.

Do you even know what Malami did? Yet you are supporting a Party with hundred like him as members.

Again, I know your type and the revenge mission against Tinubu and Yorubas making you shamelessly cling to and pretend far worse demons are now "saviours" of Nigeria.

You are simply one of those "anyone but Yoruba President" crew. If not, and assuming you had even an iota of integrity, you will address the issue of why ADC is a congregation of some of the most leadership ruinous hands in Nigeria's history.

Take your reverse psychology to the dust bin and trash it there.

Malami and his likes were with Buhari when Tinubu was busy hailing the then President that he was doing well. Suddenly the evil you all supported and foisted on Nigerians is the fault of ADC because those folks are up in arms against the disaster they brought upon Nigeria.
The North gave more votes to make Tinubu President yet you glory in your ethnicity as you can go it without the North. What a pity!!

aswani:
An Obidient with an iota of integrity, you sef are asking for too much.

Don't you realise if they had that one iota of integrity, they don't be Obidients?

Lol. 💯% correct.

slivertongue:
Take your reverse psychology to the dust bin and trash it there.

Malami and his likes were with Buhari when Tinubu was busy hailing the then President that he was doing well. Suddenly the evil you all supported and foisted on Nigerians is the fault of ADC because those folks are up in arms against the disaster they brought upon Nigeria.
The North gave more votes to make Tinubu President yet you glory in your ethnicity as you can go it without the North. What a pity!!

More incoherent talk. You are incorrigible. Beyond redemption. No surprise though.

WizardOfNG:
More incoherent talk. You are incorrigible. Beyond redemption. No surprise though.

Those who supported buhari and turned around to blame him are the problem. You supported a disaster but wants someone else to be guilty of your action but you can be redeemed if you decide to own up to your actions but pushing out ethnic narratives will worsen your plight.

slivertongue:
Those who supported buhari and turned around to blame him are the problem. You supported a disaster but wants someone else to be guilty of your action but you can be redeemed if you decide to own up to your actions but pushing out ethnic narratives will worsen your plight.

Here we go again. Working with assumptions. A normal thing for prejudiced people. I was a very vocal critic of Buhari.

I was one of those, circa 2022, who stated, without equivocation, that the extent of Buhari's misrule will shock Nigerians once he is out of power. I have been proven right.

I even stated that Buhari's hideous misrule and deliberate security inaction, abetted by Fulani supremacists like Malami, was the reason the then PMB and his Fulani inner circle cabal did not want a notoriously independent-minded and politically powerful Southerner, in Tinubu, replacing Buhari.

At the end of the day, you can think what you want. Until you answer the valid question demanding you to explain how you can proclaim ADC "rescuers" of Nigeria, when it is now factually brim full of the worst leadership ruinous hands in our nation, I remain correct that you are not a progressive or objective person.

Your main interest is not the development and growth of Nigeria. It is the removal of "Yoruba Presidency" by any means possible you crave.

otherwise you would not wish ADC, and a return of the likes of Malami and Hadi Sirika, on Nigeria.

WizardOfNG:
Here we go again. Working with assumptions. A normal thing for prejudiced people. I was a very vocal critic of Buhari.

I was one of those, circa 2022, who stated, without equivocation, that the extent of Buhari's misrule will shock Nigerians once he is out of power. I have been proven right.

I even stated that Buhari's hideous misrule and deliberate security inaction, abetted by Fulani supremacists like Malami, was the reason the then PMB and his Fulani inner circle cabal did not want a notoriously independent-minded and politically powerful Southerner, in Tinubu, replacing Buhari.

At the end of the day, you can think what you want. Until you answer the valid question demanding you to explain how you can proclaim ADC "rescuers" of Nigeria, when it is now factually brim full of the worst leadership ruinous hands in our nation, I remain correct that you are not a progressive or objective person.

Your main interest is not the development and growth of Nigeria. It is the removal of "Yoruba Presidency" by any means possible you crave.

otherwise you would not wish ADC, and a return of the likes of Malami and Hadi Sirika, on Nigeria.

Ain't you tired of lying to yourself that APC is better than ADC?

The characters you mentioned brought Tinubu to power so they are all guilty APC is APC both buhari and tinubu are all a disaster.
Stop trying to be smart by pointing to failed characters from the previous administration many of them are in Tinubu's administration.
It seems you have little relationships with the wider society thus the attempts to drag in ethnicity, sadly ethnicity is a parameter to measure deliverables. I don't do tribal brickbats, it is nonsensical to me and an attribute of weaklings