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Kukah, you criticized Buhari's government without given hope but you turns around to praising Tinubu and preaching hope.. something must be wrong with you or somewhere.. Buhari wasn't given you money then and Tinubu is given you now, continue...

ExudeLoveToAll:
I don't do sycophants here, I'm way above that league.

The biggest irony I've noticed in the last 2 or 3 years is that people who say things like ' love & light only' etc, tend to be the most hateful, vengeful, and most intolerant people.
I've noticed this both in the US & Nigeria. Your moniker says it all.

helinues:
You guys should stop this blackmailing and deliberate mischievousness?

Are you going through the hardship? Is any of your relatives going through it?

You guys can't be claiming of not experiencing hardship yet want to base your arguments on it as the reason why President Tinubu should be replaced ..

If you are not experiencing the hardship, it simply means the policies of this government are favouring you people but just undermining it deliberately

The same u promoting obi ignoring all the things anambra wrote about his 8 years here on nairaland.. When we pass thru hardships and said so under GEJ, did u agree people were suffering then? Oga ur hardship is not my hardship.. U can wail but dont generalize it

thisisit:
what a shame ...!!!!!!

BISHOP KUKAH JUST BETRAYED NIGERIANS, BETRAYED HIMSELF AND BETRAYED GOD!
how are the mighty fallen
thought kukah was immuned to the nigerian virus
thought kukah was different
LAS LAS BISHOP KUKAH COMPROMISED AND FELL WITHOUT RESISTANCE

IMAGINE KUKAH ATTACK OSENI RUFAI, A VIBRANT NIGERIAN YOUTH NOT TO FIGHT FOR A BETTER NIGERIA.

ANYWAY, THIS IS THE TIME OF THE RUFAI OSENIS... THE ERA OF KUKAH HAS PASSED

Even though the Reverend's comments were objective and direct, they shouldn't be seen as an act of betrayal. Just because Oseni is an objective journalist doesn't mean he's always right. No one is perfect, and the Reverend's role in the discussion was to provide a different perspective, which doesn't undermine either of them. The goal of debate and criticism should be to encourage improvement, not to express hatred or condemnation. If Oseni believes there has been no improvement in the current government, it's up to supporters to provide evidence that proves him wrong

I hope you read my view on the government and not implying that I am abusing the government of the day. In as much as I enjoyed your reply, please, don't assume that I am abusing the government.

I am in full support that the government is a federating units and not unilateral government. We should expect an equal energy towards development as being done by the central government. If there's an equal measure of vigorous efforts towards development from the complete tiers of government, Nigeria would tramsform within months and not year. I believe in this nation and trust that she can be great of all hands are on deck and with sheer determination to make her great.

Thanks

Ttalk:
Maybe I would say similar thing if am not exposed to government administration to some extent.

The question about VP house renovation is to asked whether it was budgeted for or not, if it was budgeted then it becomes legal and binding on the executive to implement.

Security are serious issues that is not compromised when it comes to the protection of the presidency, that is all over the world and not limited to Nigeria, the security heads determines all these things you see and no president would go against security recommendations not even Obi, Atiku or any aspirant out of Nigeria space. The decision of jet procurement is a reflection of our security architecture opinion and same decision would occured under any Nigerian president in this our era.

Yes, I quite agree with you that the government need to do more on corruption and prosecute those that are found guilty rather than patting them on the back with a sack letter but overall, corruption has reduced because we can see what our money can give us in area of infrastructure, how I wish Nigerians can beam their searchlight towards the state government to complement what FG government is doing.

For food production, the powers to increase agriculture produce lies with the governors because they have the power over land matters in their respective states, what's has the governors done in this regards despite increased in allocation, just as state government now have power to generate, transmit and distribute power, but few have shown seriousness over it.

Nigeria is a Federation and not a Unitary, there's should be shared responsibilities as well as shared blame, we should understand this fundamental before criticising so as not to appear like market people or an illiterate bus driver. Nairaland should be a convergence of knowledge and not a theatres for misinformation, abuse and propaganda

aylipple:
Most won't understand the direction Bishop Kukah is coming from.

For the first time in a very long time, his people (the Southern Kaduna people) have not been subjected to killing sprees by the Fulani jihadists or destruction of their farmlands and raping of their women.

For the first time in a very very long time, Southern Kaduna people have secured the attention of the FG in terms of healthcare (for the first time ever, they now have a FMC), education (for the first time ever, they now have a federal university headed by one of their own, Prof. (Arc) Barnabas Qurix) , appointments (notably, CDS Chris Musa) and so on....

Even if the entire Nigeria says the current admin (at both state and FG level) has done nothing for them, no sane person of Southern Kaduna descent will re-echo such a claim because they've never had it so good like they're currently having it thanks to Gov. Uba Sani & President Bola Tinubu.

So, yeah, Bishop Kukah won't sit down for a TV interview where anyone would say they can't see anything good about this admin & he'll keep quiet. No way!

Even with the brutality of General Abacha's regime, we can acknowledge that some positive things happened. The Reverend's point about significant improvements in Kaduna is valid. However, while Kaduna may have improved, security has deteriorated in places like Benue and other states. Should we celebrate these isolated gains when we need to push for more until our major problems are solved?

Saao:
Bishop Kukah is now working with Tinubu government, what do u expect. Those quoting me forgot that, Kukah is one of Tinubu appointee so he wont speak against his principal and he will attack anyone not supporting him. Im not supporting any candidates but sincerely ask yourself, is your life better or worse off? In my house i bought bag of rice at the rate of 100k every 3 months, just 5 family, what about school fees, rent? what about other kind of food? In a month, 200k cant feed family of 5 and someone is talking about negative energy? Kukah is eating free food and he's an appointee of the government so he needs to stop. The only people supporting or believing things are working are those earning from Government.

How can you ask if our life is better or worse.
What kind of kid is this.
Who share hotspot with imbe.

Is it government that will make your life better or find opportunities to be a problem solver.
If at all the government are creating more problems it's equal to more opportunities.

And to answer that your stupid question. Yes my own life is better.

How can you say no one life is better. Even in somalia people life is better depending on how you see life.

You want to buy things free. Fuel free, medical free, power nepa free, gas free.

Saao:
Bishop Kukah is now working with Tinubu government, what do u expect. Those quoting me forgot that, Kukah is one of Tinubu appointee so he wont speak against his principal and he will attack anyone not supporting him. Im not supporting any candidates but sincerely ask yourself, is your life better or worse off? In my house i bought bag of rice at the rate of 100k every 3 months, just 5 family, what about school fees, rent? what about other kind of food? In a month, 200k cant feed family of 5 and someone is talking about negative energy? Kukah is eating free food and he's an appointee of the government so he needs to stop. The only people supporting or believing things are working are those earning from Government.

Negativity can not take u nowhere.
U can NEVER make it in a land u curse and vilify daily.
Enough words to u if u have a reasoning faculty

Then let us All go our different ethnic and religious ways. Support shown to any govt of the day by a particular Nigerians seems to be a function of benefits accrued to such persons.

Forget any religious or political leaders, they are all there to aggravate our mental slavery and subdue all of us the more while enriching their own pockets.

Yahoo Yahoo all over. Na so all of us go grow old?

Af0nja2:
In this video, Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah advised Rufai Oseni that there is a limit to how far his negative energy can take him.

This is in response to Oseni's comment that he has not seen anything good in President Tinubu's government.

Watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxhMhV89Ws

What do you expect from kukah...he belongs to AGP - Any Government Party

ExudeLoveToAll:
You just talked like a sycophant, was reading and agreeing until you reached here, are you saying the market woman who is complaining is envy of loosing out? Are those around you that complain do they fall into this category? The problem with you guys is that you don't know when to differentiate when to be a sycophant and when to churn out assertions that will not be antithetical to societal development.

People are bound to be disenfranchised by the decisions of government, there reasons are very cogent considering the economic indicators available at our desk for discuss. How many percent of Nigerians do you even think belongs to the political class? You guys should be guided

It has been a long time I read a highly articulated comment like this to those petty people

But how can they be guide, people that fun in the suffering of others

gbemishile:
Negativity can not take u nowhere.
U can NEVER make it in a land u curse and vilify daily.
Enough words to u if u have a reasoning faculty

You that's not cursing the land what have you made out of it

Don't worry you will soon experience nigeria

dapadawee:
How can you ask if our life is better or worse.
What kind of kid is this.
Who share hotspot with imbe.

Is it government that will make your life better or find opportunities to be a problem solver.
If at all the government are creating more problems it's equal to more opportunities.

And to answer that your stupid question. Yes my own life is better.

How can you say no one life is better. Even in somalia people life is better depending on how you see life.

You want to buy things free. Fuel free, medical free, power nepa free, gas free.

You will soon experience nigeria

Zocalite:
It has been a long time I read a highly articulated comment like this to those petty people

But how can they be guide, people that fun in the suffering of others

Exactly!
It seems that blind loyalty is now more common than genuine critique. We've moved away from a time when we could praise and criticize the government objectively. Today, voicing a complaint about hardship gets you branded as an "Obidient," an "Atiku Supporter," or a "sore loser." The poor masses don't care about politics; they simply want to secure the basic necessities of life.

Zocalite:
You that's not cursing the land what have you made out of it

Don't worry you will soon experience nigeria

To each its own.
I have just given u a piece of advice.
U can NEVER make it on a soil u so despise

smtx:
Even with the brutality of General Abacha's regime, we can acknowledge that some positive things happened. The Reverend's point about significant improvements in Kaduna is valid. However, while Kaduna may have improved, security has deteriorated in places like Benue and other states. Should we celebrate these isolated gains when we need to push for more until our major problems are solved?

Of course, not to your last question. We're still very far away from crossing the finish line however, my point was specifically to the interview (the snippet that's uploaded to this news) between Mr. Rufai Oseni and Bishop Kukah.

While Oseni was trying to insinuate that there's nothing (at all) to be +ve about, the Most Reverend begged to disagree and I was only giving my own two cents as to why he may not have agreed with the AriseTV man.

That said, amid the gloom and doom, we (now, it's okay for anyone to see nothing but negativity all around them just as it shouldn't be a problem for anyone to see and talk about the positives around them) shouldn't lose sight of some of the glimmer of hope here & there.

Zocalite:
You will soon experience nigeria

I will always experience God.
Nigeria is my country, God is my source
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;Acts 17:26
God created me a Nigerian in his own image, not in the image of Nigeria.

So it is God that determines my fate not Nigeria

Infact am created to be a blessing to Nigeria not Nigeria to be a blessing to me.

Ttalk:
No sane mind can deny that there are no progress since Bola Ahmed took over. Just like Kukah said there are progress being made different from what we have had in the past and no wound heal in a day.

The problem with those who criticized this government is borne out hate, envy and losing out on the prediction of doom.

Rufai Oseni is one of those people and looking at it critically there's underlining fear in him to have a change of mind and to admit that he has been wrong.

Sane minds believe that the situation of this country cannot change overnight and as such tough decisions will mean some tough experiences too for Nigeria to be better. No sane person would think it would be magical because someone somewhere who talks but does opposite to his words wants to rule the country.

In any case, the solution to Nigeria's problem still remains that we need to look beyond these recycled politicians for Nigeria to become better

Saao:
Bishop Kukah is now working with Tinubu government, what do u expect. Those quoting me forgot that, Kukah is one of Tinubu appointee so he wont speak against his principal and he will attack anyone not supporting him. Im not supporting any candidates but sincerely ask yourself, is your life better or worse off? In my house i bought bag of rice at the rate of 100k every 3 months, just 5 family, what about school fees, rent? what about other kind of food? In a month, 200k cant feed family of 5 and someone is talking about negative energy? Kukah is eating free food and he's an appointee of the government so he needs to stop. The only people supporting or believing things are working are those earning from Government.

Go and farm, establish a school and build a house, if you don't want to spend this much again and stop complaining. That way you are more productive and less reliant on government, even though I wish our government is not spending all our resources on enriching the politicians alone.

Cmeo:
Go and farm, establish a school and build a house, if you don't want to spend this much again and stop complaining. That way you are more productive and less reliant on government, even though I wish our government is not spending all our resources on enriching the politicians alone.

that is a good advise but if you r smart person you would know that people are no longer farming because of insecurity hence the high cost of food. im a farmer currently with over 10ha. govt allocated farm land. im not depending on govt in anyway but somethey called conducive environment is needed by govt. so i maybe more productive than you, some of you were paid 30k here to defend bad government, continue to defend them until you meet the failure of govt face to face.

LibertyRep:
Negative energy, once clouded by it, becomes an albatross.

It's hard to break away.

Exactly. And ego and pride prevents them from escaping it.

Zocalite:
You that's not cursing the land what have you made out of it

Don't worry you will soon experience nigeria

Soon “experience” what Nigeria?

Is it only in Nigeria bad things happen?

You people are free to relocate to another country. Yet you are still here. Why?

Saao:
that is a good advise but if you r smart person you would know that people are no longer farming because of insecurity hence the high cost of food. im a farmer currently with over 10ha. govt allocated farm land. im not depending on govt in anyway but somethey called conducive environment is needed by govt. so i maybe more productive than you, some of you were paid 30k here to defend bad government, continue to defend them until you meet the failure of govt face to face.

If you are not producing due to insecurity, then you can't stop those who are producing despite insecurity not to charge their price. Be more creative with the 10ha allocated to you. Think of more stakeholders engagement, while we collective ask government to do their part.

Cmeo:
If you are not producing due to insecurity, then you can't stop those who are producing despite insecurity not to charge their price. Be more creative with the 10ha allocated to you. Think of more stakeholders engagement, while we collective ask government to do their part.

i think im engaging with the wrong person. have a nice day

dapadawee:
I will always experience God.
Nigeria is my country, God is my source
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;Acts 17:26
God created me a Nigerian in his own image, not in the image of Nigeria.

So it is God that determines my fate not Nigeria

Infact am created to be a blessing to Nigeria not Nigeria to be a blessing to me.

Lolzzzzz 🤣

Even devil sometimes appear as good

God can't be mocked, whatsoever you sow shall you reap

You will experience nigeria

Kemetian:
Soon “experience” what Nigeria?

Is it only in Nigeria bad things happen?

You people are free to relocate to another country. Yet you are still here. Why?

If there was boundless relocation, who will reside with evil people

You will experience nigeria

gbemishile:
To each its own.
I have just given u a piece of advice.
U can NEVER make it on a soil u so despise

Hold your faux advice for your generation

That's why I ask you the question - give answer

You and your entire generation will experience nigeria

Then you will remember that your advice

smtx:
Exactly!
It seems that blind loyalty is now more common than genuine critique. We've moved away from a time when we could praise and criticize the government objectively. Today, voicing a complaint about hardship gets you branded as an "Obidient," an "Atiku Supporter," or a "sore loser." The poor masses don't care about politics; they simply want to secure the basic necessities of life.

Nigeria masses do even ask for much

Look at the lmillions of people suffering because of subsidy removal, and devaluing of naira

Just because few people defrauding the policy

Yet

Nothing is happening to those few criminals, infact they are the biggest men in the society

The same people will collect government contracts and not do or do haphazard job or inflate it

Yet it's the people that must bear the yoke

And some people will start singing rubbish praise, as if life is double

Zocalite:
Hold your faux advice for your generation

That's why I ask you the question - give answer

You and your entire generation will experience nigeria

Then you will remember that your advice

I will experience nigeria in good cus i dont curse the soil i walk on.
Its not a curse.what u sow o the soil,u shall reap

Saao:
Bishop Kukah is now working with Tinubu government, what do u expect. Those quoting me forgot that, Kukah is one of Tinubu appointee so he wont speak against his principal and he will attack anyone not supporting him. Im not supporting any candidates but sincerely ask yourself, is your life better or worse off? In my house i bought bag of rice at the rate of 100k every 3 months, just 5 family, what about school fees, rent? what about other kind of food? In a month, 200k cant feed family of 5 and someone is talking about negative energy? Kukah is eating free food and he's an appointee of the government so he needs to stop. The only people supporting or believing things are working are those earning from Government.

Every sane person is now working with Tinubu or supporting Tinubu. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Charles Soludo, Wole Soyinka, Matthew Hassan Kukah. It gives me peace of mind that I am in the right camp. Na una know wetin dey worry una brain, beginning of insanity.