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| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15pm On Aug 28, 2025*. Modified: 6:23pm On Aug 28, 2025 |
JimRohn:Read Genesis 12:1-4 Exodus 19:5 It's only the descendants of Jacob that were called after they settled in the land of Canaan, if you want to prove that God can use anyone OK then let God send my own tribe to me because your Muhammad can't mention any prophet that came from any other race apart from Israel so for squeezing himself into the line of prophets is unacceptable because there is no correlation! Is there any prophet from any other race after God chose Israel as His people? Exodus 19:5 NO! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 7:00pm On Aug 28, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You keep waving Genesis 12 and Exodus 19 like they prove your point — but they don’t. Let’s break it down clearly: 1️⃣ Genesis 12 is about Abraham, not exclusivity. God promised Abraham that “all nations will be blessed through you.” (Genesis 12:3). That’s the exact opposite of your tribalism. It means God’s plan was always universal, not locked into one bloodline forever. 2️⃣ Exodus 19:5 is conditional, not eternal. God told Israel: “IF you obey My voice and keep My covenant, THEN you shall be My treasured possession.” That’s conditional. And what happened? They broke it again and again — worshipping the golden calf, idols of Baal, even sacrificing children (Jeremiah 7:31). A conditional covenant that is broken cannot be twisted into an eternal monopoly. 3️⃣ Your claim of ‘no prophet outside Israel after Canaan’ is flat-out false. Jonah (an Israelite) was sent outside Israel to Nineveh (Assyria) long after Israel settled in Canaan. Elijah and Elisha (post-Canaan) ministered directly to Gentiles in Sidon and Syria. Jesus Himself reminded you of this in Luke 4:25–27, proving God sent prophets beyond Israel. Are you calling Jonah and Elijah illegitimate? Are you calling Jesus a liar for pointing this out? 4️⃣ Your demand “let God send my own tribe their own prophet” exposes your arrogance. You are dictating terms to the Almighty. Who are you to tell God how He must send guidance? The Bible says clearly: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” (Exodus 33:19, Romans 9:15). God owes no tribe their “own prophet.” He sends whom He wills, where He wills. 5️⃣ Universal prophecy was foretold — and fulfilled. Isaiah 42 speaks of a Servant who will bring God’s law to the nations, not just Israel. Malachi 1:11 says God’s name will be worshipped in every nation. Muhammad ﷺ fits this exactly. That’s why his message spread across every continent, while Israel’s exclusivity collapsed under disobedience. 📌 Bottom line: Genesis 12 and Exodus 19 don’t help you — they destroy you. They show God’s covenant was conditional and His plan was universal. Your “Israel-only” doctrine is not in the Bible — it contradicts the Bible. The record of Jonah, Elijah, Elisha, Jesus, and the Prophets proves you wrong. So either you accept that God can and did send guidance beyond Israel — or you reject your own scripture to cling to bias. Which is it? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02pm On Aug 28, 2025 |
My guy you talk too much. Just pick one point at a time don't worry yourself i only read few words. If God chose the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob it's understandable that these people are patriarchs before God promised to stick to that family line. Regarding Ishmael we found this in the Bible. Abraham said to God: “O that Ishʹma·el might live before you!” Genesis 17:18 God responded: “Your wife Sarah will definitely bear you a son, and you must name him Isaac. And I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant to his offspring after him. But as regards Ishʹma·el, I have heard you. Look! I will bless him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him very, very much. He will produce 12 chieftains, and I will make him become a great nation. However, I will establish my covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this appointed time next year.” Genesis 17:19-21 So the promise of prophethood belongs only to the descendants of Isaac which God later transferred to Jacob. Exodus 19:5 Now answer me when did God change it to start using the descendants of Ishmael talkless Muhammad? ![]() JimRohn: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 9:35pm On Aug 28, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You’ve just destroyed your own argument without realizing it. Let’s go step by step: 1️⃣ Genesis 17 doesn’t say “only Isaac’s line can have prophets.” It says God gave Isaac the covenant of land and nationhood. Fine. But blessing, greatness, and multiplication were promised to Ishmael. If your logic is that only the covenant line can produce prophets, then explain why Jonah, Amos, Obadiah, Habakkuk, and many others — who were not priests, not Levites, not “covenant holders” — were still prophets? Covenant of land ≠ monopoly on prophethood. 2️⃣ You’re confusing covenant with guidance. The covenant of Isaac was about a land inheritance, not a permanent lockdown on divine guidance. Exodus 19:5 itself said “if you obey.” Did Israel obey? No. They broke it countless times — and the Bible is full of God rebuking them and threatening to reject them (Deut. 31:16-17, Jeremiah 7:29, Hosea 1:9). How can you twist a conditional covenant into an eternal guarantee? 3️⃣ Your “everlasting covenant” argument backfires. God called the Sabbath covenant “everlasting” (Exodus 31:16). He called the Levitical priesthood “everlasting” (Exodus 40:15). Yet Christians themselves don’t keep either. “Everlasting” in the Bible means enduring for God’s purpose — not necessarily eternal. So your whole Isaac-only claim collapses. 4️⃣ The Bible itself testifies prophecy is not chained to Israel. Jonah was sent to Nineveh, outside Israel. Balaam was not even an Israelite, yet called a prophet in Numbers 22–24. Job (a non-Israelite) is treated as a prophet (Job 1:1, James 5:11). Melchizedek (Genesis 14, Hebrews 7) was a priest of God Most High — yet not from Israel. So prophecy clearly exists outside Jacob’s bloodline, and you can’t erase that. 5️⃣ You ask “when did God change it?” — the Bible answers you. Isaiah 42:6–7 — a Servant who will be “a light to the nations.” Malachi 1:11 — “From the rising of the sun to its setting, My name will be great among the nations.” Deuteronomy 18:18 — “I will raise them a prophet like you from among their brothers.” “Brothers” of Israel = Ishmaelites. That is the shift you are blind to. God Himself foretold universal guidance, not ethnic monopoly. 📌 Bottom line: You’re clinging to Genesis 17 like a drowning man clings to straw — but it only proves God blessed both lines of Abraham. Isaac’s line received a covenant of land; Ishmael’s line was promised greatness and a nation. The Bible itself shows prophets outside Jacob’s bloodline, and your “Israel-only” theory is shredded by your own scripture. So answer this: Was Balaam a prophet or not? Was Job a prophet or not? Was Melchizedek a priest of God or not? If yes, then your claim is dead. If no, then you’re contradicting your own Bible. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:15am On Aug 29, 2025 |
JimRohn:They are all grandchildren of Isaac (Israelites) so my point stands! JimRohn:The Israelites as a nation failed but there are many among them who followed God's guidance and what God required of Israel was never obeyed by any other nation until Jesus started a group called Christians so in what way was Muhammad chosen? JimRohn:Both remains everlasting but you are the one misconstruing the whole thing. How? Sabbath was established for a purpose which means there must be a day of rest for those working under us {Exodus 23:12} Levites were to keep the pure worship as there duty forever. That doesn't mean when the nation of Israel lost their glory pure worship ends Christianity replaced what the Levites were doing and today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are carrying pure worship to all the nations on earth. What is the purpose of pure worship? It's not about hitting your head on the floor for no just reason rather it's to unite people of all the nations as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers that Islam can never ever achieve because Muhammad is fake! JimRohn:You keep repeating this after i've told you that God's promise to Israel began after the nation settled on the promise land. No prophet was sent to deliver any message after that Balaam wasn't a prophet of God but had some knowledge about God due to the fact that his ancestors lived near Abraham so he knew certain things about the true God not that God is using him as a prophet it's like a Ṣàngó priest whose great grandparents were Muslims surely he will have some knowledge about your Allah but can he be right called a Muslim for the knowledge he has? NO! JimRohn:All these points to Jesus (Israelite) Deuteronomy said among their brothers and we all know that Israelites don't even regard the children of Esau who had the same father and mother with Jacob their father as their brothers rather it's only the twelve tribes from Jacob they regards as their brothers. So how come muhammad who is far from it claimed he is a brother to Israelites? JimRohn:Guy after Christianity was commissioned anyone who speaks in the name of the Bible God is a prophet of that God but not a major prophet who is going to establish any other form of worship apart from Christianity. So your muhammad is fake! You don't even care to ask why God established worship and wanted all the nations to be involved all you are blindly chanting is Prophet and Worship! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 10:29am On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You keep asserting things the Bible doesn’t say, then moving the goalpost. Now you’ve added a pile of plain errors. Let’s clean them up—fast and exact. 1. “They are all grandchildren of Isaac.” No. Balaam wasn’t an Israelite: he’s “Balaam son of Beor, from Pethor by the Euphrates” (in Aram), and says, “the word that God puts in my mouth, that must I speak” (Num 22:5; 22:38; 23:5). Num 24:2 even says “the Spirit of God came upon him.” That is prophetic language. Job is from Uz (Job 1:1)—outside Israel; the NT cites him as an exemplar like the prophets (Jas 5:10–11). Melchizedek is pre-Israel, “priest of God Most High” (Gen 14:18; Heb 7). Stop repeating that they’re “grandchildren of Isaac.” It’s factually false. 2. “After Canaan, God never sent a prophet outside Israel.” The text refutes you. Jonah (long after settlement) is sent to Nineveh (Assyria) and the nation repents (Jonah 3). Elijah/Elisha minister beyond Israel: Sidon (Zarephath) and Syria (1 Kgs 17; 2 Kgs 5). Jesus Himself cites these as proof that God’s sending wasn’t Israel-only (Luke 4:25–27). Your rule isn’t biblical; it’s your invention. 3. You tried to downgrade Balaam: “not a prophet, just knew things.” Read the text. He delivers oracles introduced with, “The oracle of Balaam… the man whose eyes are opened… who hears the words of God” (Num 24:3–4). That’s prophetic formula. Whether you like him is irrelevant; God spoke through a non-Israelite. 4. “Deut 18:18 means only an Israelite (not Ishmaelites).” Deuteronomy uses “brothers” for non-Israelites of Abrahamic kin: – “Your brothers, the sons of Esau” (Deut 2:4). – “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother” (Deut 23:7). So “from among their brothers” reasonably includes kin-nations (Edom/Ishmael). Your claim that “Israel never calls them brothers” is directly contradicted by Deuteronomy. 5. “Everlasting covenant” = Isaac-only forever. Even things called “everlasting” can be superseded in function: the Sabbath (Ex 31:16) and Levitical priesthood (Ex 40:15) are termed “everlasting,” yet Christians don’t keep the Levitical system and claim a different priesthood in Hebrews. “Everlasting” in Hebrew covenant idiom means enduring for God’s purpose—not a straitjacket on His guidance. 6. “After Christianity was commissioned… no new major prophet, no new form of worship.” Chapter-and-verse for that closure? The NT assumes post-Jesus prophecy: – “In the last days… your sons and daughters shall prophesy” (Acts 2:17). – “Test the prophets” (1 Jn 4:1) only makes sense if prophets can arise. Your “closure” claim is theology, not scripture. 7. Universal scope was foretold—your tribal barrier is not. – Gen 12:3: “All nations shall be blessed.” – Isa 42: the Servant brings law to the nations; even Kedar (Ishmaelite line) is named rejoicing (Isa 42:11). – Mal 1:11: God’s name great “in every place.” A messenger who restores pure monotheism to all nations fits this trajectory. Muhammad ﷺ does; your ethnic gatekeeping does not. 8. “Jesus started Christians; pure worship = Jehovah’s Witnesses now.” Appealing to your denomination doesn’t rewrite the Bible. If “pure worship” is your test, explain the thousands of conflicting churches, canons, and creeds. Islam’s tawḥīd is simple and intact: worship the God of Jesus, not Jesus as God. Bottom line: – Your “Israel-only after Canaan” rule is nowhere in the Bible and is contradicted by Jonah, Elijah/Elisha, and Jesus’ own words. – “Brothers” in Deuteronomy includes non-Israelite Abrahamic kin, wrecking your Deut 18 objection. – God has never been bound by your ethnic restrictions; He sends whom He wills, and Scripture itself anticipates universal guidance. You can keep repeating your slogan, or you can face the text. If Jonah can be sent across nations, your rule is dead—and your blanket dismissal of Muhammad ﷺ is prejudice, not exegesis. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:53am On Aug 29, 2025 |
Let's talk about Balaam because it seems that is your only problem. He came from the same area where Abraham once lived that's why he knew about the God of Abraham and so claim to be a prophet of that God but God never sent him to any place except when he was hired to curse God's people. So he wasn't a prophet of God as you claim! JimRohn: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 11:16am On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Your desperation is showing. You can’t erase Balaam just because he destroys your 'Israel-only prophets' theory. Let’s deal with the facts — not your spin. 1️⃣ The text itself calls Balaam God’s mouthpiece. – Numbers 22:38: “The word God puts in my mouth, that must I speak.” – Numbers 23:5: “The LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth.” – Numbers 24:2: “The Spirit of God came upon him.” That’s prophetic language word-for-word. No amount of handwaving changes what the Bible plainly says. 2️⃣ Your excuse ‘he was just hired’ is laughable. So what? That makes it even clearer: God can and did use a man outside Israel to deliver His own words, against his own will if necessary. That proves God is not chained to your tribal boundaries. 3️⃣ Calling Balaam ‘not a prophet’ contradicts Scripture. Numbers 24:3 introduces his speech as “the oracle of Balaam… the man whose eyes are opened… who hears the words of God.” That’s the same prophetic formula used for Israelite prophets. If you deny Balaam was a prophet, you’re denying your own Bible’s terminology — not me. 4️⃣ Your double standard is exposed. When an Israelite sins (David commits adultery, Solomon worships idols), you still call them prophets and kings of God. But when a non-Israelite speaks God’s word under His Spirit, you scramble to strip the title away. That’s not exegesis — that’s bias. 📌 Bottom line: The record is crystal clear — Balaam was a non-Israelite through whom the Spirit of God spoke. That alone destroys your false rule that God only spoke through Israel after Canaan. You can keep running circles, but every time you open your mouth, you’re arguing against your own Scripture. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:21am On Aug 29, 2025 |
The highlighted is where you got it totally wrong! ![]() God twisted Balaam's tongue so that instead of cursing God's people he was blessing them just as God promised Abraham {Genesis 12:3} that never made him God's prophet a prophet of God is someone commissioned by God to go and deliver His message but Balaam was paid to curse God's people that is why God intervened so how does that makes the evil man God's prophet? ![]() JimRohn: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 12:19pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You’re tying yourself in knots, and it’s embarrassing. You just admitted God put His own words in Balaam’s mouth — yet still claim he wasn’t God’s prophet. That’s like saying a man who delivers God’s message under God’s Spirit isn’t a messenger. Pure nonsense. 1️⃣ Commission isn’t limited to Israel. Jonah was commissioned to Nineveh, not Israel. Elijah was sent to Sidon. Elisha healed a Syrian general. Jesus Himself cites these examples (Luke 4:25–27). Your claim that ‘prophet = only Israelite sent to Israel’ is already dead. 2️⃣ Balaam’s prophetic status isn’t erased by his corruption. Yes, Balaam was greedy and evil. Guess what? So were Israelite prophets at times: – Jonah ran from God’s command. – Solomon built altars to idols. – David committed adultery and murder. Did their sin cancel their office? No. You still honor them. But with Balaam, because he wrecks your narrative, you suddenly invent a new rule. Hypocrisy exposed. 3️⃣ The text doesn’t care about your spin. – “The LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth” (Num 23:5). – “The Spirit of God came upon him” (Num 24:2). That is the definition of prophetic activity. Whether he liked it or not, whether he was hired or not, God used him as a prophet. Your attempt to redefine “prophet” is just you trying to protect your collapsing claim. 📌 Bottom line: Balaam proves your Israel-only fence is a lie. You can’t erase him by calling him “evil” or “twisted.” God’s Spirit spoke through him, his words are preserved in Scripture as prophecy, and the Bible itself calls them “oracles.” That’s not my invention — that’s your Bible. So stop dancing. Either accept the text or admit you’re just defending your denomination, not Scripture. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:21pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
JimRohn:So someone paid to curse God's people is God's prophet shey? ![]() Ọmọ you are just amusing me walahi talahi because it's common sense! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 1:22pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You keep hiding behind jokes because you can’t face the text. Let’s be clear: Balaam was paid to curse, but what happened? He couldn’t. Why? Because God overpowered him and put His own words in Balaam’s mouth (Numbers 22:38, 23:5, 24:2). That’s the very definition of prophecy — a man speaking not his own will, but God’s words under God’s Spirit. So your ‘common sense’ is actually nonsense. By your logic, Jonah — who ran from God and wanted Nineveh destroyed — also wasn’t a prophet, because he had the wrong intentions. Yet God forced Jonah to deliver His message. Same pattern. 📌 Bottom line: Your mockery doesn’t change Scripture. The Bible itself calls Balaam’s speeches “oracles” and says “the Spirit of God came upon him.” Either you accept what your own book says, or admit you’re rejecting it to protect your tribal bias. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
Guy for accepting a bribe to curse God's people is evidence that Balaam wasn't a prophet of God at all. If truly he knows God and His purposes how could he accept a bribe to cause the people God has blessed? Guy you are a Muslim and i know how you people think that's why i told you to close the chapter instead of giving you a headache. Meanwhile i noticed how you've been adding something funny each time you type the name of your prophet but never did same when you mention other prophets mind if i ask you why? ![]() JimRohn: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 5:54pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Your desperation is showing again. You keep clinging to Balaam’s sin while ignoring the plain text that calls his speeches ‘the oracle of Balaam… who hears the words of God, who sees the vision of the Almighty’ (Numbers 24:3–4). That is prophetic language word-for-word. His corruption doesn’t erase the fact that God’s Spirit spoke through him. By your logic, David committing adultery, or Solomon bowing to idols, should also strip them of prophecy. But you never deny their titles — because when it’s Israelite sins, you excuse them, but when it’s a non-Israelite, you twist the rules. Hypocrisy exposed. As for your cheap shot about me writing ﷺ after Muhammad’s name: that’s respect, not 'funny.' It means peace be upon him, the same way your Bible says ‘grace and peace be upon you’ in greetings. If you find it funny that I honor a prophet of God, that says more about your mockery than my faith. 📌 Bottom line: Balaam proves God can raise a prophet outside Israel, whether you like it or not. And your obsession with Muhammad ﷺ only shows that deep down you know he fits the universal prophecies your Bible foretold. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:37pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
JimRohn:God chose the Israelites that's enough to know why prophets are called among them and none of God's prophets lay a curse on God's people. You should know the difference between personal flaws and attack on God's will. Balaam wanted to curse God's people for inheriting the land God promised their ancestors that is not personal flaws but attack on God's will! JimRohn:How come you don't RESPECT all other prophets equally if the Arabs aren't tribalistic? ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 8:00pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You’re still dodging Scripture with empty slogans. ‘God chose Israel’ doesn’t erase Balaam — because the Bible itself shows God putting His Spirit on a non-Israelite to deliver oracles. Your excuse that Balaam was ‘attacking God’s will’ is laughable. Jonah literally ran from God’s will and wished Nineveh destroyed — yet you still call him a prophet. Peter denied Jesus three times — yet you call him an apostle. Stop pretending sin cancels someone’s prophetic role when your own book proves otherwise. That’s double standards, plain and simple. As for your cheap deflection about Arabs being tribalistic — nonsense. Respecting Prophet Muhammad ﷺ with ‘peace be upon him’ is honoring God’s Messenger, exactly as the Qur’an commands us to do with all prophets. In fact, Muslims are the only people who revere Moses, Jesus, Abraham, David, and all prophets without discrimination (Qur’an 2:285). Meanwhile, you insult and mock Muhammad ﷺ, the very man your Bible foretold in Deuteronomy 18:18. That shows who’s tribal and biased here — not us. 📌 Bottom line: Balaam shatters your Israel-only theory, and Muhammad ﷺ shatters your Trinity. That’s why you’re running in circles with insults instead of addressing the facts. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Aug 29, 2025*. Modified: 9:11pm On Aug 29, 2025 |
JimRohn:You are still dancing around facts. Balaam's action is not excusable unlike others who sinned due to imperfection and begged God for forgiveness Balaam accepted a bribe to curse God's people. It's like saying one slept with the wife of his neighbor, another ran for his life and still another denied his friend out of fear then you are talking about someone who collected a bribe to attack God's will. Perhaps you don't understand i will explain, Balaam's action is like someone who accepted a bribe to bomb Muslims praying in a mosque and the one who slept with an adulterous woman or one who ran away from his duty out of fear and you are equating them. ![]() JimRohn:I purposely dragged you along until you posted more than ten comments using the name of your prophet adding that funny thing and now you are lying that you revere all the prophets but you add that thing only at the mention of your prophet. Isn't that tribalistically hilarious to you? ![]() JimRohn:Muslim has come with your provocation when nobody forced you into making comments. Where are the insults? Ọmọ i purposely quoted you because i don't believe in Trinity since it's not written in the Bible so stop being funny! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 3:09am On Aug 30, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You’re only proving my point — desperate excuses piled on top of one another. You admit Jonah ran from God, David stole another man’s wife, Solomon built temples for idols, Peter denied Jesus three times — yet they remain prophets and apostles. But when it comes to Balaam, suddenly you invent a new rule: ‘his sin is different, unforgivable, inexcusable’. That’s not theology, that’s bias. Scripture doesn’t grade sins on your sliding scale — sin is sin. What made them prophets was not their flawless character, but that God chose to speak through them. And the record is crystal clear: ‘the Spirit of God came upon Balaam’ (Numbers 24:2). Either accept it, or admit you’re rejecting your own Bible. As for your childish mockery about me writing ﷺ after Prophet Muhammad’s name — that’s respect, not ‘tribalism.’ Muslims say peace be upon him after all prophets, whether Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad, because that’s what God commands in the Qur’an (2:285). If you don’t see me type it after every name, it’s not because I don’t respect them, it’s because I don’t need to spell out a formula every single time for your comfort. The respect is already in my faith — not in satisfying your petty demands. What’s actually ‘tribalistic’ is Christians mocking Muhammad ﷺ while pretending to honor every other prophet. And stop pretending you’re being generous by saying you don’t believe in the Trinity — that only underlines my point: your own Bible doesn’t teach it, and you know it. That’s why you’re scrambling to hide behind insults and weak analogies instead of answering the real issue. 📌 Bottom line: Balaam proves your Israel-only claim is false, and Muhammad ﷺ proves your Trinity is false. That’s why you keep running from the text into childish laughter. The joke is on you. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31am On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Jesus taught us that there is a type of sin that's unforgivable {Matthew 12:31} so if you don't believe him that's your own cup of coffee but if you want to know why this kind of sin is unforgivable i'm here to TEACH you! But that's by the way Balaam wasn't a prophet of God that's why he accepted a bribe to curse the people of God! ![]() JimRohn:The highlighted shows you don't even know what you are doing because if you truly and conscientiously believe in your Allah how come you didn't add that funny thing when mentioning all other prophets except at the mention of your Arabian guy? Ọmọ i purposely dragged you to see the level of indoctrination in you. Stop deceiving yourself Arabians are the tribalistic people otherwise you should have been adding that thing at the mention of all other prophets. ![]() JimRohn:I have answered the Trinity issue long before now it's your Allah, Islam and Muhammad that's the issue you want to include and i told you to close the chapter but you insisted on knowing the truth so face the truth. If Arabians aren't tribalistic how come they taught you to add that funny thing each time you mention their brother but will not do the same for the real prophets of God known in the Bible? JimRohn:Guy Balaam is not a prophet of the God whose people he took a bribe to curse and as for Trinity it's obvious you're still a baby Muslim because knowledgeable Muslims know that Jehovah's Witnesses don't preach Trinity check the below thread and see how myself and other Jehovah's Witnesses dismantled Trinity! ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/5885909/im-beginning-reason-jehovah-witness |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 11:56am On Aug 30, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You’re only embarrassing yourself with contradictions. First you said Balaam isn’t a prophet because he sinned, yet the Bible itself records: ‘The Spirit of God came upon him, and he uttered the oracle of Balaam… who hears the words of God, who sees the vision of the Almighty’ (Numbers 24:2–4). That is prophetic formula, word-for-word. You can scream ‘bribe’ a thousand times, it won’t erase the text. If God’s Spirit rested on him and he delivered God’s words, he was a prophet — whether you like it or not. The only way you escape this is by rejecting your own Scripture, which is exactly what you’re doing. Dragging Matthew 12:31 into this only shows desperation. That verse is about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, not bribery. David committed adultery by the Spirit’s law, Solomon bowed to idols against the Spirit’s command, yet you keep their titles intact. But when it comes to Balaam — suddenly you invent a special category of ‘unforgivable.’ That’s not exegesis, that’s hypocrisy. As for your childish obsession with me writing ﷺ after Prophet Muhammad’s name — your mockery only exposes your insecurity. Muslims honor all prophets without distinction (Qur’an 2:285). Whether or not I type out the Arabic formula each time doesn’t erase that fact. Unlike you, we don’t dishonor or ridicule prophets of God. And calling Muhammad ﷺ ‘an Arabian guy’ only proves your tribalism, not mine. You pretend to respect Moses and Jesus, yet laugh at the final prophet foretold in your own book (Deut. 18:18). That’s not faith — that’s prejudice. And stop playing games about the Trinity. First you claim you don’t believe it because it’s not in the Bible. Then you admit you’re a Jehovah’s Witness, whose theology is rejected by the majority of Christianity. So even your fellow Christians don’t take you seriously. You’ve already undermined your own credibility — I don’t even need to do it for you. 📌 Bottom line: Balaam destroys your Israel-only excuse. Muhammad ﷺ destroys your man-made doctrines. And your weak mockery about ‘that funny thing’ only shows you’ve run out of arguments. Keep laughing, because laughter is all you’ve got left when the text has exposed you. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:31pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Balaam may be called a prophet of your own god after all Islam teaches that your god does everything so Satan sef is your god's prophet but as for the Bible God there are criteria which Balaam didn't meet up and the same goes with your muhammad. JimRohn:You're the one who is desperate here as you are DESPERATELY trying to include an Arabian guy among God's prophets where he doesn't belong and as for your thing that you keep adding to the name of your prophet it's obvious you've been lied to and instead of you to humbly accept correction you are getting provoked. If you truly and conscientiously believe your Allah why haven't you been adding that thing after mentioning the name of biblical prophets? That's the simple question you need to answer instead of hitting your head on the brick arguing aimlessly! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Maximus692(m): 1:38pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:It's obvious you can't answer that simple question but i will leave you with it perhaps your conscience will help you to know why i told you earlier to close the chapter. Here is the question again: If truly you believe that all prophets of God needs to be revered why haven't you been adding that thing at the mention of biblical prophets as you were doing for your muhammad? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxIntheHouse2(m): 1:44pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
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| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 1:56pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
Maximus692:You’re running from Scripture into childish nitpicking — because you’ve lost the argument. The Bible itself says Balaam spoke under God’s Spirit and uttered God’s words. That’s the definition of a prophet. You can’t refute it, so you hide behind ‘why didn’t you type a symbol every time.’ That’s not theology, that’s desperation. And let’s be clear: Muslims honor all prophets (Qur’an 2:285). We don’t mock, curse, or belittle them the way you just mocked Muhammad ﷺ. Whether I type ﷺ every single time is irrelevant — the respect is built into our creed. What exposes you is that you reduce faith to keyboard formulas while simultaneously ridiculing God’s last prophet. That’s not reverence, that’s hypocrisy. You still haven’t answered why your Bible explicitly calls Balaam a prophet, or why your theology contradicts your own text. Instead, you keep circling back to emojis and typing habits. That’s the clearest proof you’re out of substance. 📌 Bottom line: I’m dealing with scripture, you’re dealing with symbols. That tells me everything about who’s standing on truth — and who’s hiding behind childish distractions. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:So close the chapter because on that note i'll forever disagree with you that Arabians aren't tribalistic with their religion. Thanks for your time! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 2:52pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Thank you as well. We can agree to disagree, but let the record be clear: reverence for prophets is not tribalism, it is faith. Islam commands us to honor all prophets without distinction (Qur’an 2:285), and that principle stands regardless of your opinion. You may choose to interpret it otherwise, but my position remains grounded in both scripture and reason. I appreciate the exchange. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:56pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:The highlighted is where you are making it difficult for me to agree with you since you didn't add what you religiously add each time you mention the name of that Arabian man. So next time you want to convince anyone about prejudice or hypocrisy against your prophet don't forget to add that thing each time you mention the name of any prophet at least that will make your presentation unbiased. Thanks for your time. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 3:03pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn, hw do you do those neat bullet numberings? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by JimRohn: 4:45pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
DeepSight:The bullet and numbering options can be found in the emoji/symbol section of the Android keyboard. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 8:28pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Thanks. Do you know any prophet who embodied these qualities: 1️⃣ Bloodthirsty 2️⃣ Was a caravan robber 3️⃣ Was a mass murderer 4️⃣ Was obsessed with sex 5️⃣ Routinely contrived inspired verses on the spot to justify his personal desires 6️⃣ Was a despot and tyrant 7️⃣ Was a plagiarist |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:48pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
DeepSight:For being straightforward you may hate me but this is not a friendly manner to start a conversation: Nnamdipapa: SeniorMan715: Questionnaires:If you don't believe in any religion again please try to make your presentation friendly though firm. |
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