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Janosky:
"God MADE the Universe NOT his son".
@Hebrew 1:2 ,Paul clarified Col 1:16-17 you are cleaving to.
Hebrew 1:2 addressed your misunderstanding of Colossians 1:16-17
Matthew 11:25 & Acts 17:24, Jesus & Apostle Peter have already confirmed that Steep is deceiving himself.


Acts 17:24 (MOUNCE) reads: "The God who made the world and everything in it, he who is Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by human hands...". This verse is part of Paul's sermon to the Athenians in Athens' Areopagus, where he introduces the God of creation, emphasizing that the true God is not limited to human-made temples or rituals, but is the sovereign Lord of all.

Yahweh ho theos (The God ) & Sovereign LORD of ALL owns ALL creation.
Person wey dey argue against Matthew 11:25 , Acts 17:24 & 1 Corinthians 3:23 nah believer?

Oga, go and rest

FxMasterz:
The day you understand these Scriptures below, that day is the day your eyes will open.

Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings"

Deuteronomy 29:29
“The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things which are revealed and disclosed belong to us and to our children forever.

1 Corinthians 2:10
"But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God."

If you are still looking for the surface things of Scripture, keep searching for the word Trinity. If you are looking for things beneath the surface-the deep things of God, read what you called an epistle above.

Your Misquote of 1 Corinthians 2:10, Proverbs 25:2 & Deut 29:29 ,those verses didn't mention anything about Trinity.

Oga, do you have evidence where Jesus Christ worshipped 3 persons in your Bible ?

The only example Jesus taught us is Mark 12:29-30.
(1 Corinthians 11:1, JW's join Paul the apostle to copy Mark 12:29 .)
Mark 12:29 "Worship LORD Yahweh with your whole mind, heart and strength." (Copied from His Father Yahweh" ,in Deuteronomy )

Steep:
whenever God is using tense to describe his eternal presence he uses "I am". Jesus used I am to describe his presence in the past making him eternally present.

Steep:
No pagan has any God that is trinity.
But you as a jehovah witness you do not believe that only Jehovah is God, you believe there are other gods that jehovah created, you make jehovah an idolater even when he said there is no god besides him.

Oga Steep, do you really study your Bible ?

Who created the gods in Deuteronomy 10:17 & Psalms 82:6?
Satan the devil is a god, 2 Corinthians 4:4.

Did any Jehovah's witness teach you to worship gods ?
Did Jehovah God instruct you to worship gods?

Oga Steep stop deceiving yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Banned!
Truly there is no peace for the wicked! Isaiah 57:21

DoWhatThouWilt:
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Janosky:
Why do you want to derail this thread?

Janosky:
Why do you want to derail this thread?

MaxInDHouse:
He's a sad atheist so let him be that's how he's been running around the forum criticizing all religions so he's now interested in getting their attention by accusing Jehovah's Witnesses at least if they shunned him for being an atheist they will celebrate him for accusing their number one enemy religion!

MaxInDHouse:
Banned again!
Truly there is no peace for the wicked! Isaiah 57:21

SarcasticWords:
Elder too! May God protect our children from wolves pretending to be sheep.

MaxInDHouse:
OK, thank you Sir!

FxMasterz:
Have you seen this Part 2? Even more Truths:

The skeptics are still trying, but the Scriptures keep shutting every door against them. Let’s move into deeper truths they can’t handle.

Skeptic: “But the Bible says Christ is just a messenger… not literally God inside believers.”

Reply: Colossians 1:27 says “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Meanwhile, in 2 Corinthians 6:16, God Himself says “I will dwell in them, and walk in them.” How is this fulfilled? By Christ in us. The presence of Christ in us is the presence of God in us. This is why Paul could boldly say in Galatians 2:20, “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.” If Christ in us equals God in us, then who is Christ?

Skeptic: “But in Revelation, it’s only God that should be worshipped, not Jesus.”

Reply: Revelation 5:13 destroys that argument completely: “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea… heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.”

Both the Father and the Lamb receive the same eternal worship from all creation. Show me a prophet or angel who ever received worship like this without rebuke? Even angels reject worship (Revelation 19:10), but the Lamb receives it alongside God. Why? Because He is God. Meanwhile, the Lamb NEVER WORSHIPS ANYONE.

Skeptic: “But Jesus Himself worshipped God… that means He can’t be God.”

Reply: Revelation is clear: the 24 elders, the four living creatures, and all the angels worship God and the Lamb (Revelation 5:8-14). Notice something shocking: there is not a single verse where the Lamb worships anyone. Not one. Yet all creation bows before Him. That is divine status, not prophetic rank.

Skeptic: “But God is the only King, not Jesus. Jesus was just exalted.”

Reply: In the Old Testament, God is called “King of kings” (Deuteronomy 10:17, Daniel 2:47). Yet in the New Testament, Revelation 19:16 says Jesus has a name written: “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” The same eternal titles of Yahweh are ascribed directly to Christ. Either you accept that Jesus shares the very identity of God, or you will have to admit there are two different Kings of kings—which the Bible never allows.

Skeptic: “But Revelation still shows separation between God and the Lamb. They’re not the same.”

Reply: Revelation 21:23 solves it: “And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.” Notice carefully: it doesn’t say “lights.” It says LIGHT. One light, shared by God and the Lamb. They are not two competing sources, but one eternal divine radiance. That is unity of essence, not separation of nature.

Final Note: From Genesis to Revelation, the witness is consistent: the Son shares the names, glory, worship, throne, and attributes of Almighty God. Non-Trinitarians will quote isolated verses, but the full counsel of Scripture keeps exposing their loopholes.

SarcasticWords:
You opened a thread with a writeup in support of the trinity for people to read and I am asking you a question based on your write up.

Are you saying Jesus Christ the son and God the father are the same?

Simple question.

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you just one question Sir!

Can you QUOTE the word "TRINITY" in any version of the Bible?

Please first do that before explanation.

Thanks in advance!😴

FxMasterz:
Listen my friend. You can choose to call it Trinity or any other word you want to call it. But that God is a Triune Being is an undisputable fact in Scripture. You don't even need to call it Trinity, but look at the Bible and see that God is a Triune Being.

MaxInDHouse:
I believe Moses and Jesus this is what both of them said:


Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is ONE. ‭Deuteronomy 6:4 NIV compare to Mark 12:29‬

One question for you Sir.

Is it compulsory for all Bible believers to accept this your TRINITY or Triune Being?🤔

FxMasterz:
"One God, One Lord, one Baptism..." Ephesians 4:4-6.
God is Lord, Jesus is Lord.
One question for you sir.
Are there two Lords?

FxMasterz:
Not compulsory to even accept Jesus as Saviour. But there are consequences for rejecting the Truth.

MaxInDHouse:
Let the Bible answer:

The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” ‭Psalms 110:1 NIV‬

Hope you believe this!

Jesus prayed for his disciples:


Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. ‭John 17:17 NIV‬


So according to Jesus God's word (Bible) is the only source of TRUTH that's why i am asking you to QUOTE the word "TRINITY" in God's word!

FxMasterz:
That is not what we are discussing. We are only establishing the fact that Trinity is a sound Biblical doctrine. The interrelationship between the personalities of the Trinity is not the subject of discussion. You can make what you like of that, but, my brother TenQ, has answered your questions. So you can help yourself below:

"1. God is Spirit: the Infinite Holy Spirit . In Him EVERYTHING visible and Invisible consist. In Him we Live and Have our Being and Existence

2. God is the Father: the visible image of the Invisible God in the Heavenly Realm. He sits on His throne and presides over Existence physical and spiritual.

3. God is the Word: the visible image of the Invisible God in every Realm. He He represents the presence of God everywhere physical and spiritual. Through Him and for Him and by Him EVERYTHING in Existence was Created. He is God on Duty. He is God on Errand. He is God at Work. He became Human and we call that physical form of Him Jesus the Christ!

Thus God dependently and Independently is the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit!


Humans are created in the Image of God as a Trinity of interdependent Body, Soul and Spirit"

FxMasterz:
Absolutely!
Are you now saying that the Scriptures contradict themselves? Are there two Lords?

FxMasterz:
Did I quote from the Quran all these while? Was the 7 books of Moses my source?
Forget about the Word Trinity, that is just a description. God is a Triune Being as seen in the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
OK i understand you better now so there is no reason to condemn any pagan tradition since all were photocopies of what is practiced in heaven!

safarifarms:
Why all these twisting. How can counterfeit which he rightly referred to them as be encouraged? Counterfeit is always bad and condemnable. You see the truth but your agenda is superior to the scriptures that the guy put forth. What a shame.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry madam can you QUOTE the word TRINITY in any version of the Bible?

Perhaps you can help him to answer the question!

safarifarms:
Trinity is a term and its defined as a Christian word not pagan word. Now do you refer to the Bible as Bible? If you do, can you show where the word appears in the bible?