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| Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 11:44am On Aug 30, 2025 |
Iran today stands at a decisive historical juncture. The Islamic Republic has only two paths before it: 1️⃣ To develop nuclear weapons and secure itself as a powerful example for nations across the world — a state capable of deterring aggression and commanding respect. 2️⃣ Or to abstain, and risk becoming yet another cautionary tale, like Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan — countries that were disarmed, weakened, and then ravaged by foreign intervention. The lesson of modern history is clear: those who lack deterrence become prey to foreign domination. Iran must now decide whether it will shape its destiny as a symbol of strength, or allow its fate to be written by others. It is no longer a question of capability, but of resolve. The time to choose is now. #seun fergie001 Mynd44 | Please send it to front page! |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 1:20pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:You didn't mention the relative peace in Saudi Arabia and Qatar... or are these two countries also having nuclear weapons? You people won't just stop making case for terrorist nations. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by honeyB2018: 1:39pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:This is how people who are fanatics write, they see things from an extreme angel and expect others to go along with them. Let him be reminded that peace is priceless. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 1:47pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:Your response is shallow and riddled with contradictions. You mention Saudi Arabia and Qatar as “peaceful,” yet conveniently ignore the obvious: they are under the protective shadow of the very powers that plunder the Middle East. Their survival is not due to wisdom or strength, but servitude — they rent out their sovereignty to Washington and London, hosting U.S. bases while paying with oil money. That is not peace; that is subjugation. As for calling Iran a “terrorist nation,” that is nothing but parroting Western propaganda. Iran has been the single most consistent force resisting Zionist occupation and U.S. imperialism in the region. If defending one’s sovereignty, supporting oppressed Palestinians, and refusing to bow to colonial masters is “terrorism,” then what do you call the U.S. invasion of Iraq that killed over a million people? Or Israel’s daily massacre of civilians in Gaza? Or NATO’s destruction of Libya? The difference is simple: Saudi Arabia and Qatar chose slavery to survive, while Iran chooses dignity to lead. And history will always honor those who stood with dignity, not those who sold themselves for temporary comfort. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by chrisxxx(m): 2:02pm On Aug 30, 2025*. Modified: 5:25pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Do Saudi Arabia, UAE, Malaysia, Kuwait, Oman and other prosperous Islamic States have Nuclear Weapons? How is Pakistan faring as an Islamic nation with Nuclear Weapons. You Muslims should embrace peace. Mohammed came up with Quoran as a defense advice when his enemies wanted him dead. If you keep Quoran in the centre of life you will start to see fathom and unimaginary enemies. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 2:04pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Ok, you won! But unfortunately for Afghanistan they haven't enjoyed the "freedom" they fought for even when America has left them alone. As for Gaza, those ones are reaping the fruits of their labor. Saudi Arabia hasn't become poor despite you claiming they pay the Americans with their oil, I will rather live in Saudi Arabia's slavery rather than live in Afghanistan's freedom. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 2:20pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
chrisxxx:Your reply is full of contradictions and historical ignorance. You point to Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Kuwait as examples — but let’s be honest: their “prosperity” is nothing but oil money traded for slavery to Washington. They host U.S. bases, bow to Western dictates, normalize with Israel, and sell their dignity for security guarantees. That’s not peace — that’s submission. You mention Pakistan with nuclear weapons — precisely the point. Despite all Western hostility, Pakistan has never been invaded or colonized again because nuclear deterrence works. That is the reality you’re trying to dodge. As for your cheap attack on the Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, it only exposes your bias. The Qur’an is not “defense advice”; it is divine revelation, a complete guidance for life, unmatched in depth and wisdom. Unlike your Bible, which was rewritten and edited by councils of men, the Qur’an has been preserved word for word for 1400+ years. You say Muslims should “embrace peace” — yet it is the U.S. and its Christian allies who invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, slaughtering millions. It is Israel — a Western-backed settler colony — that bombs children in Gaza daily. Don’t lecture Muslims about peace when your own camp thrives on bloodshed and occupation. The difference is simple: Muslims who resist oppression are called “terrorists,” while Western powers who drop bombs on wedding halls are called “liberators.” Your hypocrisy is staggering. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 2:28pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:Your reply only exposes your moral bankruptcy. You openly admit you prefer slavery under America’s boot to freedom with dignity — that alone tells us everything about your mentality. A man who glorifies servitude is already conquered in spirit. You mock Afghanistan’s struggle, yet you forget it was Afghanistan that broke the back of two empires — first the Soviets, then the Americans. No other nation in modern history has forced the U.S. to flee in humiliation. That is not failure, that is unmatched resistance. Poverty under freedom is still nobler than wealth under chains. As for Gaza, your comment that they are “reaping the fruits of their labor” is disgraceful. Gaza is under siege, bombed, starved, and slaughtered daily, yet they still stand firm against the most heavily armed occupier on earth. That is not “punishment,” that is proof of their unbreakable spirit — something you clearly cannot comprehend. And about Saudi Arabia’s so-called “prosperity” — it is built on oil money exchanged for silence, not independence. The palaces are gilded, but the dignity is sold cheap. A rented throne is no throne at all. The truth is simple: you would rather be a well-fed slave than a free man who struggles. But history never honors slaves — only those who resist. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by bdon123(m): 2:50pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Quick question...wat weapon does qatar,jordan or saudi arabia hav that makes dem a super nation?ur piece is sense. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by bdon123(m): 2:51pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Are their people prospering?hav y been to all those countries combined?i have n hav a better understanding of their enjoyment. An average american suffers more than a Jordanian or qatari. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 2:57pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:You sing Afghanistan's praise and make them feel like they mean any shit, was America really in battle with Afghanistan? A few Nuclear heads would have simply finish Afghanistan if America was really at war with them. The Afghans especially the women were enjoying their freedom when Americans were still there but today the women are all in boundage courtesy if the Talibans iron fist and that is what you call a beautiful freedom. Gaza allowed Hamas take over their land, Hamas Gaza as their launch pad. Oct7 is still fresh on our mind and Gaza will continue paying the prize. Isreal will have to push Gaza so far away from Israeli borders so next time they would think of the long walk it'll take them to cross to Israel. Saudi's GDP realized on prigrimage alone goes a long way, wont you rather have a beautiful Nigeria that live in Saudi's type of slavery? Your almighty sovereignty what exactly has it done for you? Did America asked Iran not to trade in their oil? So a simple instruction deterring them from building Nuclear weapon is now slavery...you really have to think twice anyway. Saudi doesn't see any reason to own a Nuclear weapon and they are living just fine but according to you that means they live in America's slavery... nah wa for you o. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 3:30pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:Your reply is drenched in ignorance and blind submission. You say America was “never really at war with Afghanistan”? Then explain why the so-called superpower wasted 20 years, trillions of dollars, and thousands of soldiers’ lives, only to flee in humiliation — leaving behind weapons and bases? If America could “wipe out” Afghanistan with nukes as you foolishly suggest, why didn’t they? Because even empires know you cannot nuke resistance into extinction. Afghanistan broke the arrogance of the Soviets and the Americans — that is not weakness, that is history written in blood and dignity. You pretend Afghan women were “free” under America, yet that “freedom” was nothing but puppet regimes, corruption, and foreign troops killing civilians in drone strikes. Real freedom is self-determination, not foreign soldiers dictating how you live. Poverty under dignity is still greater than fake prosperity under chains. As for Gaza, your statement is not only disgraceful but morally bankrupt. Palestinians did not “allow Hamas to take over” — they were forced into resistance after decades of massacres, land theft, and siege by a colonial Zionist regime. Gaza is not being punished for “October 7,” Gaza has been under brutal blockade for nearly 18 years — long before that day. Israel bombs hospitals, schools, and refugee camps not because of Hamas, but because its very existence is built on ethnic cleansing. If resistance is a crime, then every African freedom fighter against colonialism was a criminal too. You glorify Saudi’s “prosperity” — yet that prosperity is built on oil sold cheap to the West, hosting U.S. bases, and bowing to Washington’s orders. Pilgrimage money doesn’t erase servitude. That is not sovereignty, that is rented survival. You ask what sovereignty has done for Iran? Sovereignty is the reason Iran still stands despite 40+ years of sanctions, assassinations, and Western plots. No other Muslim country has resisted this long and remained independent. That is true power. You call following America’s orders “peace.” No, it is slavery dressed up as stability. True peace is when a nation can stand on its own feet without needing America’s permission. That’s why you mock Iran — because unlike your idols, it refuses to bow. The truth is simple: you cheer for Zionists and Western imperialists because you are comfortable with chains, as long as they shine. But history does not remember the slaves who lived in comfort — it remembers the nations who resisted oppression no matter the cost. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by MadamExcellency: 3:52pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
The Op was part of those who hailed Hamas on October 7th and declared victory for Islam and today he is shouting genocide after celebrating victory for Islam. What an oxymoron. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 5:04pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Ok! Ok!! Ok!!! Let's leave America and it slavery aside, let's come back home. Where exactly does Nigeria belong? Are we Americas slave or are we a freeborn? Though I wish we could be another America slave so that we can at least live free from all the bandits and bokoharams disturbing us. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 6:22pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:Your response perfectly illustrates the defeatist mindset that has crippled nations like ours. To openly wish that Nigeria should become “another America’s slave” just to feel secure is not a solution, but an admission of surrender. Security that comes through foreign domination is never true security — it is dependency, and dependency always comes with a price: loss of sovereignty, dignity, and the right to decide our own destiny. Nigeria’s problems with banditry, Boko Haram, and corruption are not solved by kneeling before Washington or London; in fact, much of the instability in Africa has roots in foreign meddling, exploitation of our resources, and the propping up of weak leaders who serve outside interests instead of their people. True progress comes not from trading our independence for temporary comfort, but from building internal strength, unity, and self-reliance. History has shown that nations which outsource their security eventually outsource their future. Nigeria does not need to be America’s slave — it needs to rise as a nation that governs itself with justice, defends itself with strength, and stands with dignity among the free peoples of the world. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 7:13pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:So when are you going to start defending yourself? You think it's by writing articles right? I really wonder your definition of a sovereign state, the phone you use in typing this wasn't produced by your so call sovereign state, the cars, the airplane,the ship, the guns,the way you dress, your education ,your politics,even your religion and so much more were all given to you by the same people you do much abhor. The mineral resources you think you have would have become useless if those same people had not told you it usefulness but you suddenly now feel calling on them to come rescue us from a self inflicted terror is an infringement to our sovereignty. It's like a grown up man who suddenly feels he knows more than his father. What do you understand by international trade? If a country offers a service to your country of course they'll get something in return or do you expect them to offer it for free? If Saudi is paying with their oil has it ever become shortage for their own use? Paying for a Service delivery isnt slavery sir, if you want to become absolutely autonomous then you'll have to produce everything you'll ever need and stop relying on other countries while you claim sovereign state. There's comparative advantages amongst nations, if you are better militarily then I can give you my a share in my oil while you keep me your protection. Just the other day the army were calling out the sabotage in the army regarding the fight with the insurgence, I'm sure you'll rather prefer that to inviting a better equipped nation to come help you fight your battle while you pay them. You'll prefer your own people to embezle the money while the insurgence thrives. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 10:11pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
phorget:Your reply is nothing but a desperate attempt to dress up servitude as “wisdom.” You confuse international trade — which is mutual exchange — with colonial dependency, which is one-sided domination. Using foreign-made phones or cars through trade does not mean a nation has surrendered its sovereignty. Sovereignty is about decision-making power, not about producing every pin and needle yourself. Japan, China, and even Saudi Arabia import technologies, yet they retain sovereignty because they act independently. What you are endorsing is not trade — it is kneeling before foreign powers for protection in exchange for obedience. That is slavery. Your argument about “the West giving us religion, politics, and education” only exposes how colonized your mindset is. The fact that Africans were forced to abandon their own systems through colonial violence is not a gift — it is theft, cultural erasure, and imposition. Colonizers didn’t “teach us usefulness” of our resources out of kindness; they exploited them for their own wealth while leaving our people in chains. You mock Nigeria’s struggle with insurgency and corruption, yet your solution is to invite foreign armies — the same powers who profit from selling weapons to both sides of the conflict. That is not security; that is outsourcing sovereignty to the very people who created the instability in the first place. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya — all living proof that Western “help” only leaves nations in ashes. The truth is this: you would rather be a well-fed slave under America’s boots than a free man who builds slowly with dignity. But history has never honored slaves, no matter how comfortable they were. It honors nations that bled, fought, and rose on their own terms. Nigeria does not need a foreign master — it needs leaders and citizens who reject the cowardice of servitude and embrace the courage of self-determination. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 10:19pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
MadamExcellency:Your accusation is as empty as your logic. Show me exactly where I “hailed Hamas” — quote me, word for word. You can’t, because it never happened. What you’re doing is fabricating lies to cover your own intellectual bankruptcy. And calling it an “oxymoron” to condemn genocide while recognizing resistance is laughable. There is no contradiction in supporting the right of an oppressed people to resist occupation while simultaneously condemning the slaughter of civilians. Only someone with a morally bankrupt mind would confuse those two. What’s truly oxymoronic is people like you who cheer Western-backed massacres and then try to smear anyone who exposes the truth. You don’t debate with facts; you throw baseless labels because that’s all you have. So here’s the challenge: bring proof of where I hailed Hamas — or admit you are nothing but a liar hiding behind empty rhetoric. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 10:35pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Western help hasn't left Saudi and Qatar in ashes though... can you explain this? Japan despite Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing still remain western ally until date, they even just approved a village for you Nigerians even with all your so call sovereignty your citizens are all scattered abroad. They earn overseas and send money back home yet you talk bad about the people feeding most of your citizens. Your last president died in western hospital, you can't even afford nothing but you are here making mouth. There's rule to these things, person wey pass you don pass you and there's nothing you can do about it. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by ruggedtimi(m): 11:47pm On Aug 30, 2025 |
JimRohn:Iraq started the invasion game by invading Kuwait first..There is no U S base in Oman and yet the country is relatively peaceful. With or without a nuclear warhead U.S will still attack Iran if they want to.. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 8:35am On Aug 31, 2025 |
phorget:Your response is riddled with shallow comparisons and blind submission. You mention Saudi and Qatar as if they are models of independence — when in reality they are nothing but oil wells guarded by American bases. Their survival depends on renting their sovereignty to Washington. They are not spared because of “help” but because they are obedient vassals. The day they resist, they will face the same fire as Iraq and Libya. That is not success, that is servitude dressed up as prosperity. Japan? Another bad example. Japan has U.S. military bases all over its soil since WWII. Its so-called “alliance” is the price of being permanently occupied. They are not “allies,” they are hostages in a velvet cage. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were not favors, they were crimes of terror that forced Japan into submission. That is not sovereignty, it is controlled survival. And your point about Nigerians abroad is laughable. Migrants sending money home does not erase the fact that our nation still exists independently. Nigerians work abroad by choice, not because America owns Nigeria. Don’t confuse global migration with slavery. By your logic, every African-American in the U.S. makes Africa a colony of America — a ridiculous claim. Your statement “person wey pass you don pass you” only exposes the slave mentality you carry proudly. It is the language of defeat, of someone too cowardly to imagine freedom, so he convinces himself chains are natural. Great nations are not built by people who surrender to those “who pass them.” They are built by those who fight, resist, and rise until they surpass their oppressors. So keep glorifying masters while calling yourself wise. History will remember you as the willing slave who mistook obedience for progress, while real nations carve dignity out of struggle. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 8:52am On Aug 31, 2025 |
ruggedtimi:Your reply only proves how shallow your grasp of history is. Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990 was wrong — but does one crime justify another tenfold greater? The U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 had nothing to do with Kuwait; it was built on lies about “weapons of mass destruction” and left over a million Iraqis dead. Don’t twist timelines to excuse Western butchery. You say “no U.S. base in Oman” as if that is proof of independence. Oman is a client state tied by Western trade, military cooperation, and British officers embedded in its defense forces. Just because you don’t see an aircraft carrier parked in Muscat doesn’t mean Oman is free from Western strings. And your statement that “U.S. will still attack Iran if they want to” exposes the very defeatist slave mentality I’ve been pointing out. You think power means doing whatever you like with no resistance. But reality shows the opposite: the U.S. invaded Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan because they were weak. They have not dared invade Iran in 40+ years because they know Iran will hit back and make them bleed. That is deterrence. That is exactly why nuclear capability matters — it raises the cost of aggression beyond what even a superpower is willing to pay. So keep glorifying slavery as “peace.” Real nations carve dignity from resistance, not from licking boots. Oman may survive quietly on its knees — Iran survives loudly on its feet. And history has always honored those who stood, not those who crawled. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 9:03am On Aug 31, 2025 |
JimRohn:Your sovereignty hasn't left your nation from depending on same western worlds for survival, why has it now become a difficult task for you to ask for this one last help ... Kneel down on your two knees and beg France or Israel or America or Russia or just choose any of those countries with military expertise to come help you flush out bokoharam, banditry and ESN. You have been depending on them for everything already but calling on them for your own security now means an infringement on your beautiful sovereignty... 😂 Oh I almost forgot that your sovereignty thrives so much on corruption, you know if those people are been calling upon they will definitely blow open the cover of corruption in your country. Keep playing with people's lives all in the name of politics anyway, but I will tell you this for free... It is never a crime to call for help whenever you feel helpless. Thr way it is right now I will tell you that Nigeria needs HELP. Have you forgotten the billion of dollars your country keep borrowing? Don't you know that you become an automatic slave to your lender? Nigeria is never a sovereign state, we are just one hell of a scam claiming sovereignty. Your president will soon jet out to France or UK for his usual health checks, though Nigeria has hospitals but it doesn't worth anything so also is our sovereignty that doesn't worth a shiiit cos we still depend on others. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by ruggedtimi(m): 9:17am On Aug 31, 2025 |
JimRohn:you just go copy and paste from A.l...I Never stated that the iraq invasion of Kuwait was the reason the Bush administration had to invade Iraq. If the U.S. and NATO's actions in Libya are considered an invasion, then recent U.S./Israeli operations in your almight Iran entering its airspace and striking ground targetscould similarly be viewed as an Invasion. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 9:53am On Aug 31, 2025 |
phorget:Your reply is nothing but a sermon in defense of slavery. You keep repeating “dependence” as if trade, loans, or migration erase sovereignty. That’s laughable. Sovereignty is not about isolation — it is about decision-making power. Nigeria borrows, trades, and engages internationally, but no foreign army sits in Abuja dictating our constitution. That is the difference between an independent state and a vassal. You say, “kneel down and beg France or America” — exactly the mentality of a conquered mind. Nations with dignity don’t beg outsiders to fight their internal battles; they build the capacity themselves. Boko Haram and banditry are the by-products of the same Western powers you are begging for — they profit from selling weapons, fueling chaos, and then posing as saviors. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya — every nation that opened its doors to “helpers” ended up in ashes. Your so-called “exposure of corruption” by foreigners is another coward’s fantasy. The West doesn’t care about corruption — they thrive on it. They bankroll the same thieves you complain about, stash their looted wealth in Swiss banks, and sell them mansions in London. If they truly hated corruption, they would freeze and repatriate every stolen cent. But they don’t — because your “masters” are not saviors, they are beneficiaries. As for mocking Nigerians abroad and our leaders’ medical trips, that is exactly the problem with your mindset: instead of demanding that we fix our house, you prefer to burn down the whole neighborhood and call in foreign landlords. Sovereignty is not “perfect hospitals and zero corruption,” it is the right to decide our destiny without bowing to outsiders. The truth is simple: you mistake slavery for wisdom because you are too weak to imagine freedom. You are the kind of man who would rather be a well-fed dog at his master’s feet than a free man who builds slowly with dignity. But history has never honored slaves — it honors nations that resisted, fought, and rose on their own terms. So keep kneeling and begging. Nigeria doesn’t need cowards like you. It needs people who would rather die struggling for self-determination than live forever licking foreign boots. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 10:04am On Aug 31, 2025 |
ruggedtimi:Stop fooling yourself. Everything I post here is my own reasoning — I don’t need a bot to think for me. When your arguments collapse under the weight of facts, the only defense you can muster is “copy and paste from AI.” That’s not only lazy, it’s cowardly. If my points sound too precise and logical for you to handle, maybe the problem isn’t me — it’s your shallow grasp of history. And let’s be clear: comparing U.S./Israeli drone strikes or border skirmishes to a full-scale invasion is laughable. An “invasion” is when armies march in, topple governments, and occupy land — like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya. Iran is still standing, still governed by Iranians, and still projecting power across the region. If those little pinprick raids were enough to bring Iran down, it would have collapsed decades ago. Yet here we are, and Iran remains — while Iraq and Libya are smoking ruins. So stop clutching at straws. The very fact that the U.S. and Israel limit themselves to surgical strikes instead of boots on the ground proves my point: they know Iran will make them bleed if they try a real invasion. That is deterrence in action, whether you like it or not. You can keep mocking resistance while polishing the chains of servitude, but don’t project your slave mentality onto others. Some nations crawl to survive, others stand to endure — Iran chose the latter. And history will always honor those who stood. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by ruggedtimi(m): 10:17am On Aug 31, 2025 |
JimRohn:you just dey write plenty...You gave Libya as an example of a weak nation. Yet there was no U.S ground invasion in libya mostly air support and arms supply to rebel groups in libya. Which was almost similar situation in Iran, the u.s sent B-2 Bombers into Iran and they will do so again even if iran should possess a nuclear warhead. Indian attacked pakistan a nuclear armed nation and Ukraine is doing same against all mighty Russia. My point is that being nuclear-armed isn't enough to deter a nation like the U.S. from attacking Iran. Their main concern is that if Iran acquires a nuclear weapon, it could fall into the wrong hands such as Hezbollah or the Houthis. The U.S and west sometimes supplies weapons to rebel groups, but these are mostly firearms and light explosives not weapons of mass destruction. The same can't be said for Iran, as evidenced by the hypersonic missiles reportedly in the hands of the Houthi |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by phorget(m): 11:11am On Aug 31, 2025 |
JimRohn:Ok,let's see how long you'll keep standing on your feet. But I can't remember telling you that I need those people to come set up a base in Nigeria, when the Israeli were bombing houti leaders I didn't see Israeli setting up a base in Yemen. All I'm saying is for a shared intelligent gathering and manpower to help eliminate our internal compromised... How is this a crime? But I know your people won't allow such cos you are happy killing innocent souls all in the name of politics. You blame the west but tomorrow you'll run to them to buy turcano aircraft, so according to you those westerns sell weapons to you and also sell to the terrorist but those terrorists knows how to use same weapons more than your army that is why they keep whooping their asses. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by Razzness(m): 2:40pm On Aug 31, 2025 |
The biggest mistake Iran will ever make is to give up their nuclear program. Any country that doesn't have nuclear weapon will always be defenceless against countries that do. And the fact that Israel could just wake up one morning and attack them should be a wake up call. For example, Russia only attacks Ukraine with impunity because they don't have a nuclear weapon. While Pakistan is only safe from India because they have nuclear weapon. Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein only lost their lives because they gave up their nuclear program while Kim Jung un is only left alone because he has one. You see the trend? So for the Iranians to give up their nuclear program, means they are very draft and they haven't learnt their lesson, which am sure they aren't. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 4:03pm On Aug 31, 2025 |
ruggedtimi:You clearly have a habit of writing without thinking. First, you twist history and now you contradict yourself mid-sentence. You admit Libya had no ground invasion, only airstrikes and armed rebels — exactly my point. Libya collapsed precisely because it was weak, disarmed, and had no deterrent. The U.S. could bomb freely because Gaddafi handed over his nuclear program years earlier. Had Libya been nuclear-armed, NATO would never have dared fly those planes, let alone arm rebels. Weakness invites predation. Second, your comparison of Iran to Libya is ridiculous. Libya had no regional alliances, no deterrence, and no long-range strike capability. Iran has all three. That’s why, for over 40 years, the U.S. and Israel have barked loudly but stopped short of invasion. They know the cost. They can sneak in bombers, fire missiles, or hack systems — but they won’t roll in tanks because Tehran won’t collapse like Tripoli. Your examples of India–Pakistan and Russia–Ukraine are also laughable. Pakistan still exists. Its nukes kept India from full-scale war. Russia still exists. NATO hasn’t invaded Russia directly because of its nuclear arsenal. Your own examples prove deterrence works. If nukes were irrelevant, Pakistan would be occupied, and NATO would already be in Moscow. But they’re not. And spare me the Western propaganda about “Iran’s weapons falling into wrong hands.” The U.S. has armed Israel with hundreds of nukes outside the NPT, yet lectures others on proliferation. America literally left Afghanistan with $7 billion worth of weapons in Taliban hands — but suddenly Iran is the great danger? Hypocrisy doesn’t become truth just because you parrot it. You mock resistance because you’re too busy glorifying servitude. But facts don’t lie: Libya disarmed and got destroyed. Iraq was weak and got invaded. Iran resisted, armed itself, built alliances, and remains standing. That’s not theory — that’s history slapping you in the face. So stop embarrassing yourself with contradictions. The difference between a nation that kneels and one that stands isn’t in your wishful thinking — it’s written in the rubble of Baghdad and Tripoli, and in the unbroken skyline of Tehran. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by JimRohn(op): 4:10pm On Aug 31, 2025 |
phorget:You’re only exposing how shallow your reasoning is. First you say you don’t want foreign bases, then you beg for “shared intelligence and manpower.” Do you even hear yourself? That’s exactly how vassalage begins — once you can’t secure your own house without outsiders, you’ve surrendered sovereignty in all but name. And stop dragging Israel into your confusion. Yemen is in ruins precisely because foreign powers interfered instead of letting Yemenis resolve their own destiny. The Houthi are still standing, still fighting, still launching missiles into Riyadh and Tel Aviv despite all that foreign “intelligence.” If foreign interference was the magic solution you dream of, Yemen would be stable by now — but instead, it’s rubble. As for your cowardly accusation about “killing innocents in the name of politics,” that’s laughable coming from someone defending the same Western powers whose bombs wiped out entire wedding parties in Afghanistan, starved children in Yemen, and turned Libya into a slave market. Save your fake moral outrage — the blood trail of your Western masters makes anything in Nigeria look like a drop in the ocean. And yes, Nigeria buys aircraft and weapons from the West — because decades of puppets like you sabotaged local industries instead of building self-reliance. Buying hardware doesn’t mean you are slaves; begging for foreign soldiers to fight your battles does. But you can’t grasp that difference because you’ve trained your mind to crawl instead of stand. You keep mocking our soldiers as if incompetence is genetic. No — incompetence is the product of a system built to depend on foreigners instead of creating its own doctrine, industry, and resilience. And that is exactly the mentality you are defending: eternal dependence, eternal weakness, eternal servitude. The truth is this: nations rise by struggling, failing, and rising again — not by outsourcing their dignity to outsiders. You can keep kneeling and begging for scraps of “intelligence.” I’ll keep demanding that my nation stand on its feet, even if it takes longer. History will remember who chose freedom, and who licked boots. |
| Re: Iran At The Crossroads: A Defining Choice by ruggedtimi(m): 6:26pm On Aug 31, 2025 |
JimRohn:ukraine invaded kursk in russia, Israel airplanes operated in iran for days. Pakistan and india both nuclear armed fought each other. Nuclear armed doesnt mean they wont attack you. |
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