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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ask4bk(m): 5:07am On Aug 31, 2025
CuteMaro:
Does this mean inverters that support this feature ( can working without batteries) have the ability to wake a dead lithium battery caused by bms shutdown?
That's just another feature that hybrid inverters may or may not have. Even external charge controllers come with this feature while others don't.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CuteMaro(m): 5:53am On Aug 31, 2025
ask4bk:
That's just another feature that hybrid inverters may or may not have. Even external charge controllers come with this feature while others don't.
So basically, an inverter being able to supply electricity in the absence of battery is not a guarantee for waking a dead battery in the case of a bms shutdown.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 9:43am On Aug 31, 2025
HeavenlyBang:
It's just terrible, really.



Of course they cut corners. Their 8kwh battery is only like 7.2kwh. Still amazing for the price, though, so I don't know why they just won't market it as what it actually is.
Overstating capacity is a Chinese thing.

They do this as you can't sue the people selling a product. Also regulatory compliance is not a thing in China. So not hard to see a 3000w rated device not handle 1000w.

I wish they'd actually state the real capability of device. But that's where reviews and research can help or even better DIY your thing.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 11:35am On Aug 31, 2025
mctfopt:
Overstating capacity is a Chinese thing.

They do this as you can't sue the people selling a product. Also regulatory compliance is not a thing in China. So not hard to see a 3000w rated device not handle 1000w.

I wish they'd actually state the real capability of device. But that's where reviews and research can help or even better DIY your thing.
The thing is price.
At times price is enough to tell us the value of purchased product. If 1litre of fuel is not true here,who are we to Judge judge China?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 11:58am On Aug 31, 2025
dollarnaira:
The thing is price.
At times price is enough to tell us the value of purchased product. If 1litre of fuel is not true here,who are we to Judge judge China?
Everyone wants a great deal. I wish they'd be upfront with what they are selling.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 2:40pm On Aug 31, 2025
I am from the future 😂

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SaintUlot: 2:51pm On Aug 31, 2025
SaintUlot:
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CodeTemplarr: 3:35pm On Aug 31, 2025
mctfopt:
Overstating capacity is a Chinese thing.

They do this as you can't sue the people selling a product. Also regulatory compliance is not a thing in China. So not hard to see a 3000w rated device not handle 1000w.

I wish they'd actually state the real capability of device. But that's where reviews and research can help or even better DIY your thing.
Thats where the wisdom to stick with brands within china comes in. Choose a decent brand and keep gambling on their level of professionalism.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by swagifted(m): 3:36pm On Aug 31, 2025
this one na for ongrid people.
BigDickProblems:
I am from the future 😂
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2025
swagifted:
this one na for ongrid people.
Most Nigerians don't have an option, it's either solar or nothing.

So, for now, it'd take a long time for that to be Nigeria's problem
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CodeTemplarr: 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2025
ask4bk:
I no come understand you again. You just said a charge controller can't regulate high voltage whereas that's the primary work of a charge controller. This is funny 😁. All a charge controller does is to step down DC voltage to the voltage you set it to. It can receive 300v 12a and step it down to 12, 24, 48v or any figure you set it to, while it increases amps or regulates it accordingly. Every charge controller is a DC-DC converter.
You thought only battery can give 48v for eg? 🙆🏾‍♂️🙆🏾‍♂️.

Anyways.. I guess you've already figured it all out.
some are just mosfets. To put a solar pv on inverter as battery is an unstable and unpredictable arrngement. There has to be an SMPS inside between that step the DC to a stable output before inverter can easily turn it into a stable-enough AC.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CodeTemplarr: 3:57pm On Aug 31, 2025
fuckboys:
Please chief what do you think could be causing buzzing noise from my inverter whenever it rains, but whenever everywhere dries out the noise stops. And the issue is coming from the pv cos the noise stops when I turn off the pv breaker.

And this only happens only when it rains and after raining.
Thats likely Noise. Stray energy that enters along the normal signal that gives power. When the sun is intense the noise to stable power ratio is lower but when the deniminator(sun energy) becomes less due to rain and noise remains almost same. The ratio increases.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 4:44pm On Aug 31, 2025
mctfopt:
Everyone wants a great deal. I wish they'd be upfront with what they are selling.
wink
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:21pm On Aug 31, 2025
mctfopt:
Overstating capacity is a Chinese thing.

They do this as you can't sue the people selling a product. Also regulatory compliance is not a thing in China. So not hard to see a 3000w rated device not handle 1000w.

I wish they'd actually state the real capability of device. But that's where reviews and research can help or even better DIY your thing.
This happens everywhere the producers / service providers don't have a name to protect.

Even here in Nigeria, there are times you're forced to do certain things all because you don't wanna stain your brand name. Check well, most of those producers are nameless. They probably don't own their own manufacturing line
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:25pm On Aug 31, 2025
CuteMaro:
So basically, an inverter being able to supply electricity in the absence of battery is not a guarantee for waking a dead battery in the case of a bms shutdown.
you do know you mustn't use an inverter to wake a sleepy BMS right ?
Hopefully it's only sleeping, and didn't go into lock-down
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:38pm On Aug 31, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Thats likely Noise. Stray energy that enters along the normal signal that gives power. When the sun is intense the noise to stable power ratio is lower but when the deniminator(sun energy) becomes less due to rain and noise remains almost same. The ratio increases.
That's what I actually thought when I said maybe from the Solar panels but can't be sure especially with so little information. He couldn't even confirm if buzzing is from inverter's Fan or not.

maybe there's been exposed contacts on Solar panel that's creating some kinda static energy when wet.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:42pm On Aug 31, 2025
ask4bk:
When you succeed pls share findings and result with us since we all want to learn.

As for inverter that no one is using, we no get.
But if you wan pay for the inverter for the experiment, ehen, then that one we get inverter to give. 😂😁
Assume I've shared already just by bring up said idea. Some people need not have the [full] source code. Just the algorithm, or heuristic is enough.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CuteMaro(m): 10:01pm On Aug 31, 2025
bassdow:
you do know you mustn't use an inverter to wake a sleepy BMS right ?
Hopefully it's only sleeping, and didn't go into lock-down
Just trying to learn my Chief. In case I run into something similar in the future I'll know what to do. I use the Haisic 4.2kva hybrid inverter and it has that feature.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BikoMERCYme(f): 1:01am On Sep 01, 2025
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 5:19am On Sep 01, 2025
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Obnoxious2001(m): 7:17am On Sep 01, 2025
mctfopt:
Most Nigerians don't have an option, it's either solar or nothing.

So, for now, it'd take a long time for that to be Nigeria's problem
Can't even be a Nigerian problem.

Some people do solar in Nigeria to reduce bills
Some for survival
Some it's a necessity

So Nigeria no get business with any of those things.

Now this now brings me to another topic, will solar systems owners be willing to pay for insurances for their solar systems?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:07am On Sep 01, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
Can't even be a Nigerian problem.

Some people do solar in Nigeria to reduce bills
Some for survival
Some it's a necessity

So Nigeria no get business with any of those things.

Now this now brings me to another topic, will solar systems owners be willing to pay for insurances for their solar systems?
For some of us, we're much more comfortable over things in our control. You got control, you got freedom and vice versa.

As for insurance, except they got viable benefits, doubt would be interested.

My own na make FG no begin tax Solar users like they do abroad. Almost like slave trade never really ended, they just repackaged
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by gagzee(m): 8:32am On Sep 01, 2025
Hello everyone, good day 🙌🏾. Please I need advice, on this product. Is it a good deal? And please any review s about the product would be appreciated, thanks🙏🏾🙏🏾

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by swagifted(m): 8:35am On Sep 01, 2025
what i mean is that nigerians are not doing solar so to sell back to the grid...where if the grid no gree buy again or tarriff reduce wey u no fit increase ,then you go think say na bad investment,here we use all the energy ourselves
mctfopt:
Most Nigerians don't have an option, it's either solar or nothing.

So, for now, it'd take a long time for that to be Nigeria's problem
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Darey00(m):
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 11:30am On Sep 01, 2025
gagzee:
Hello everyone, good day 🙌🏾. Please I need advice, on this product. Is it a good deal? And please any review s about the product would be appreciated, thanks🙏🏾🙏🏾
what do you intend using it for ?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 11:33am On Sep 01, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
some are just mosfets. To put a solar pv on inverter as battery is an unstable and unpredictable arrngement. There has to be an SMPS inside between that step the DC to a stable output before inverter can easily turn it into a stable-enough AC.
The PWM are just mostly mosfet doing on and off. But true MPPT are true DC-DC converters.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 11:36am On Sep 01, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Thats likely Noise. Stray energy that enters along the normal signal that gives power. When the sun is intense the noise to stable power ratio is lower but when the deniminator(sun energy) becomes less due to rain and noise remains almost same. The ratio increases.
May be a capacitor is singing due to low voltage. You may be needing a new inverter in the near future.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 11:50am On Sep 01, 2025
CuteMaro:
So basically, an inverter being able to supply electricity in the absence of battery is not a guarantee for waking a dead battery in the case of a bms shutdown.
When a BMS shuts down, it cuts off the voltage from your inverter. If the inverter can not do batteryless operation, you will need to find another way to wake up your battery. Even if your inverter can work without batteries, there is no guarantee that it will wake up your BMS. Once some BMSes shut down, there are specific methods needed to wake them up, not just supplying them voltage. That is why it is good to set the cut-off voltage for your inverter higher than for the BMS, so that your inverter shuts down before the BMS. Every installer should pay attention to this when installing lithium batteries.

There are also some BMSes that bypasses the BMS for charging or discharging. Such BMSes have another leg that goes directly to the battery without passing through the BMS electronics. That way if your BMS dies, your battery can still be charged or discharged properly and the BMS will come up when the battery gets to the set recovery voltage. However, if you have that kind of BMS, you must set your inverter/Charge controller charging or discharging profiles to ensure that you do not kill the battery with overcharging or overdischarging.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira(m): 12:24pm On Sep 01, 2025
Are we in rainy season?
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