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Evolution Is A Scam by Mosco100(op): 11:38pm On Aug 31, 2025
Evolution is a scam. God is the author of all things. “ For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”(Colossians 1:16,17).



All things as displayed in nature reveal an intrinsic design that couldn't have happened by mere chance. All of us, everything, has carefully designed and produced by God.

It's just like production technology. Nothing artificial we have today (machines, structures, etc.,) have evolved or grown out from some other thing, rather, the engineer has carefully designed, and procedurally produced, only in the case of God, the raw materials themselves are also made by God, out of nothing, but by His holy Word, because He's a miracle working God. “ Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”(Hebrews 11:3).


God will do a miracle in your life today, through His Word, His Son, Jesus Christ.

He will save you from all sins, heal your sick body, transform your soul, perfect that that concern you, and prepare you for heaven, for Jesus’ sake. Amen.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by CoolUsername: 2:30pm On Sep 01, 2025
If evolution is a scam, why do disease pathogens routinely gain immunity to common medications and antibiotics?
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by budaatum: 7:23pm On Sep 01, 2025
Mosco100:
Evolution is a scam.
Thank you so much for your call for knowledge. I hope the following start your education.

https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101#79231074

https://www.nairaland.com/4923036/learn-reason-critically#74146576
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by justlove91(m): 7:49am On Sep 02, 2025
Mosco100:
Evolution is a scam. God is the author of all things. “ For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”(Colossians 1:16,17).



All things as displayed in nature reveal an intrinsic design that couldn't have happened by mere chance. All of us, everything, has carefully designed and produced by God.

It's just like production technology. Nothing artificial we have today (machines, structures, etc.,) have evolved or grown out from some other thing, rather, the engineer has carefully designed, and procedurally produced, only in the case of God, the raw materials themselves are also made by God, out of nothing, but by His holy Word, because He's a miracle working God. “ Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”(Hebrews 11:3).


God will do a miracle in your life today, through His Word, His Son, Jesus Christ.

He will save you from all sins, heal your sick body, transform your soul, perfect that that concern you, and prepare you for heaven, for Jesus’ sake. Amen.
@Bolded

This is a contradiction,
If you understand something, you don't need faith.
If you have faith in something, whether you understand it or not is irrelevant, infact it is because you don't understand it that's why you need faith.

What you people don't understand is you're not obligated to believe or hold as truth whatever you don't understand or lacks evidence.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04am On Sep 02, 2025
justlove91:
@Bolded
This is a contradiction,
If you understand something, you don't need faith.
If you have faith in something, whether you understand it or not is irrelevant, infact it is because you don't understand it that's why you need faith.
What you people don't understand is you're not obligated to believe or hold as truth whatever you don't understand or lacks evidence.
The highlighted is a misconception Sir Faith comes with UNDERSTANDING it's Love that believes all things whether you understand or not.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by justlove91(m): 8:44am On Sep 02, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is a misconception Sir Faith comes with UNDERSTANDING it's Love that believes all things whether you understand or not.
Sir, you can't understand anything through faith and if you understand something, you need faith to hold it as true.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by DoWhatThouWilt: 9:00am On Sep 02, 2025
MaxInDHouse did the bot ban you? That is good. grin
No peace.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by Dtruthspeaker: 9:08am On Sep 02, 2025
CoolUsername:
If evolution is a scam, why do disease pathogens routinely gain immunity to common medications and antibiotics?
As your body sweats to cool you up or as weed grow in spite of generator smoke, so also is it the work of God that living things adapt to changes in environment.

But we all know that the op is simply opposing the postulation of evolution as the source of life whereas things must first be created before they can evolve.

And their evolution even depends on if their Creator created them to evolve.

And funny I don't think you can call a new thing eg Badagry smugglers have modified Volvos and Camrys, that is clearly an evolution.

But it would not be exactly right to say this example is evolution

https://www.nairaland.com/8149910/incredible-evolution-mercedes-benz-car#130885723

They are all different Benzes
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20am On Sep 02, 2025
justlove91:
Sir, you can't understand anything through faith and if you understand something, you need faith to hold it as true.
You need to understand what FAITH is first before you speak about faith.

God is invisible so it's difficult to have faith in what you can't see but then how do we have faith today?

Well according the Bible there was a man named Abraham who was called by God and directed by God to do certain things. Does Abraham need faith before believing the voice he heard is from a living being?
NO!
Why did the Bible say Abraham put faith in God and it was counted to him as righteousness? James 2:23
Well this God promised Abraham some things and Abraham was seeing what God promised in progress so it's the progressive fulfillment that made Abraham to have FAITH in God that all what God promised is certain.
But what is the thing that doesn't require understanding?
That is LOVE because whether God's promises come true or not love comes unconditionally! 1Corinthans 13:4-7

So please Sir FAITH comes by hearing what makes sense! Romans 10:14
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by Dtruthspeaker: 9:42am On Sep 02, 2025
justlove91:
@Bolded

This is a contradiction,
If you understand something, you don't need faith.
If you have faith in something, whether you understand it or not is irrelevant, infact it is because you don't understand it that's why you need faith.

What you people don't understand is you're not obligated to believe or hold as truth whatever you don't understand or lacks evidence.
Do you understand how your phone works? No

But do you not have faith in it? Yes

Then what is faith?

If you ever find the answer then you would know why understanding is faith
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by CoolUsername: 10:25am On Sep 02, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
As your body sweats to cool you up or as weed grow in spite of generator smoke, so also is it the work of God that living things adapt to changes in environment.

But we all know that the op is simply opposing the postulation of evolution as the source of life whereas things must first be created before they can evolve.

And their evolution even depends on if their Creator created them to evolve.

And funny I don't think you can call a new thing eg Badagry smugglers have modified Volvos and Camrys, that is clearly an evolution.

But it would not be exactly right to say this example is evolution

https://www.nairaland.com/8149910/incredible-evolution-mercedes-benz-car#130885723

They are all different Benzes
Evolution makes no claims about the origin of life. It simply speaks on how that life diversifies. Abiogenesis and origin of life research are distinct fields of study from evolution.

Matter of fact, the Catholic Church's official stance on it is that it is true and doesnt conflict with with the Christian faith.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by Emusan(m): 11:37am On Sep 02, 2025
CoolUsername:
Evolution makes no claims about the origin of life.
That means you don't know if the first life evolved or not?

It simply speaks on how that life diversifies. Abiogenesis and origin of life research are distinct fields of study from evolution.
This doesn't make any meaningful meaning since the NATURE OF THE FIRST LIFE wasn't known.

Abiogenesis can never happen with all the conditions on earth without careful or discreet control.

Matter of fact, the Catholic Church's official stance on it is that it is true and doesnt conflict with with the Christian faith.
You misunderstood the Catholic on this, the Catholic claim, is that even though living things have ability to evolve it's still within the set rules God the Creator put in them yet this doesn't mean there's evolution of ape-like into human.

The Catholic believe God created human as we are today.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by Dtruthspeaker: 12:44pm On Sep 02, 2025
CoolUsername:
Evolution makes no claims about the origin of life. It simply speaks on how that life diversifies. Abiogenesis and origin of life research are distinct fields of study from evolution.

Matter of fact, the Catholic Church's official stance on it is that it is true and doesnt conflict with with the Christian faith.
Ok.

But I contend that for a thing to evolve, it must be that same thing and not another thing. Exactly as we don't say a baby is an evolvement of the parents.

So I dispute that there is nothing like evolution because everything they claimed is an evolution , is simply a different thing separate from the original thing in question. Just like today's phones are not the same as our 3310s.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by CoolUsername: 12:56pm On Sep 02, 2025
Emusan:
That means you don't know if the first life evolved or not?
Evolution is the variation of genetic traits over successive generations. This means that if a certain trait is more likely to allow an organism survive until the point of reproduction, then we should see that trait become more commonplace over generations in that species.

This is only possible in living organisms. That is why origin of life research is beyond the scope of evolution because it is no longer dealing with living organisms.

Emusan:
This doesn't make any meaningful meaning since the NATURE OF THE FIRST LIFE wasn't known.

Abiogenesis can never happen with all the conditions on earth without careful or discreet control.
Abiogenesis is the formation for life from non-life. If you believe in the biblical creation story, then you, by definition, believe in abiogenesis.

That said, while abiogenesis hasn't been replicated, progress has been made in the field and complex biomecules have been synthesised.

Scientific research is a gradual process so its far too early to say that it can NEVER happen.

Emusan:
You misunderstood the Catholic on this, the Catholic claim, is that even though living things have ability to evolve it's still within the set rules God the Creator put in them yet this doesn't mean there's evolution of ape-like into human.

The Catholic believe God created human as we are today.
Pope John Paul and Pope Benedict affirmed that evolution doesn't contradict Catholic faith. Pope John Paul only claimed that the human soul was created. Likewise, Pope Francis also affirmed that evolution is true but it was God created the internal laws. They never denied that man and ape share a common ancestor.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by CoolUsername: 1:27pm On Sep 02, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Ok.

But I contend that for a thing to evolve, it must be that same thing and not another thing. Exactly as we don't say a baby is an evolvement of the parents.

So I dispute that there is nothing like evolution because everything they claimed is an evolution , is simply a different thing separate from the original thing in question. Just like today's phones are not the same as our 3310s.
Babies are different from their parents, though. You are not a carbon-copy of your parents and that is due to genetic variation. Even identical twins are different from each other.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by LordReed(m): 1:14am On Sep 03, 2025
Mosco100:
Evolution is a scam. God is the author of all things. “ For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”(Colossians 1:16,17).



All things as displayed in nature reveal an intrinsic design that couldn't have happened by mere chance. All of us, everything, has carefully designed and produced by God.

It's just like production technology. Nothing artificial we have today (machines, structures, etc.,) have evolved or grown out from some other thing, rather, the engineer has carefully designed, and procedurally produced, only in the case of God, the raw materials themselves are also made by God, out of nothing, but by His holy Word, because He's a miracle working God. “ Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”(Hebrews 11:3).


God will do a miracle in your life today, through His Word, His Son, Jesus Christ.

He will save you from all sins, heal your sick body, transform your soul, perfect that that concern you, and prepare you for heaven, for Jesus’ sake. Amen.
A scam you continue to benefit from. A scam that has lots of evidence to back it up. I don't think you know the meaning of scam.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by DeepSight(m): 1:23am On Sep 03, 2025
LordReed:
A scam you continue to benefit from. A scam that has lots of evidence to back it up. I don't think you know the meaning of scam.
The ToE is no scam but I believe very inchoate.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by LordReed(m): 6:56am On Sep 03, 2025
DeepSight:
The ToE is no scam but I believe very inchoate.
Why do believe that when its processes can and are replicated everyday?
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by DeepSight(m): 7:06am On Sep 03, 2025
LordReed:
Why do believe that when its processes can and are replicated everyday?
Inchoate simply means incomplete. It doesnt mean it isnt true. I have said zillions of times that I believe in evolution. Its just that as you know, my position is that there are things it still doesnt explain.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by LordReed(m): 7:37am On Sep 03, 2025
DeepSight:
Inchoate simply means incomplete. It doesnt mean it isnt true. I have said zillions of times that I believe in evolution. Its just that as you know, my position is that there are things it still doesnt explain.
OK that is true.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by budaatum: 7:38pm On Sep 03, 2025
DeepSight:
Inchoate simply means incomplete. It doesnt mean it isnt true. I have said zillions of times that I believe in evolution. Its just that as you know, my position is that there are things it still doesnt explain.
No one suggests evolution explains everything. It does not lay claim to explaining the first hominids, not to talk of how homosapiens or life in general began.

You posted above about the evolution of the Mercedes, but that in no way explains the origin of the motor vehicle, or vehicles in general, which might have begun from being pulled by humans or cattle or horses. Same way evolution starts from an established point without going into what started it all.
Re: Evolution Is A Scam by CoolUsername: 3:18pm On Sep 04, 2025
DeepSight:
Inchoate simply means incomplete. It doesnt mean it isnt true. I have said zillions of times that I believe in evolution. Its just that as you know, my position is that there are things it still doesnt explain.
If we really look at, is there any complete scientific theory? Science is humanity's most successful method of gathering knowledge. We find that the most-cutting discoveries would only open avenues for discovery as unknown unknowns become known unknowns.
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