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Listen up my fellow men. When you have a woman that brings fidelity, love, respect, understanding, as well as the virtuous body submitted only to you, that woman already brought the entire "Table". Don't ask her what she brings to the Table again, else you aren't fit to sit on the Table. If her table is such that you aren't fit enough to sit and put the necessities on at the least, leave and let her leave quickly and move on.

I bring headache to the table, if I don't give him a headache, then who will?

You are welcome Sam. I believe he enjoys the headache you additionally bring to the table😁.

Samantha125:
I bring headache to the table, if I don't give him a headache, then who will?

A man should not ask a virtuous woman what she brings to the table. If her character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, she has already proven her value. The wiser question is whether both partners can pull their strengths together to build a balanced, respectful, and fulfilling union.

Well registered. There is a limit to what "woken ideas" can turn around, regarding the realities and fundamentals of things.

verminnel:
A man should not ask a virtuous woman what she brings to the table. If her character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, she has already proven her value. The wiser question is whether both partners can pull their strengths together to build a balanced, respectful, and fulfilling union.

verminnel:
A man should not ask a virtuous woman what she brings to the table. If her character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, she has already proven her value. The wiser question is whether both partners can pull their strengths together to build a balanced, respectful, and fulfilling union.

A responsible man should not bring anything to the table. When he showers his wife with fidelity, love, understanding and niceness. I think that should be balanced too.

McLizbae:
Listen up my fellow men. When you have a woman that brings fidelity, love, respect, understanding, as well as the virtuous body submitted only to you, that woman already brought the entire "Table". Don't ask her what she brings to the Table again, else you aren't fit to sit on the Table. If her table is such that you aren't fit enough to sit and put the necessities on at the least, leave and let her leave quickly and move on.

A responsible man should not bring anything to the table. When he showers his wife with fidelity, love, understanding and niceness. I think that should be balanced too.

For me, what does a man and a woman want each other to bring to the "table"?

Mindlog:
For me, what does a man and a woman want each other to bring to the "table"?

This question you asked is a question that most newly wedded couples don't properly settle before getting married.

It shocks me whenever I read stories about guys complaining about how their wife doesn't support them in the home, denies them sex, requests for interest whenever she borrows them money and many more. And how these complaints most times lead to the end of their marriage.

I do ask myself if these people didn't date at all before getting married, cos when you're dating someone and make up your mind to get married to each other, these some of the things you two must sort out before moving forward with the marriage.

In this current economy, it's almost impossible for one partner to shoulder the entire responsibility of the home regardless of how much his income is. So if you as a guy fails to properly discuss how the home would be run with your partner before getting married, you've got yourself to blame when the load becomes to heave for you and she tells you it's your responsibility to provide and doesn't lift a finger to assist you.

You used the word " Responsible " sir,What is the concept of responsibility? Responsibility can be conceptualised as being accountable for someone or something and have a duty to make certain that particular things are done, even biblically it is made clear that providence should be a "man" thing.

onlyhope:
A responsible man should not bring anything to the table. When he showers his wife with fidelity, love, understanding and niceness. I think that should be balanced too.

verminnel:
You used the word " Responsible " sir,What is the concept of responsibility? Responsibility can be conceptualised as being accountable for someone or something and have a duty to make certain that particular things are done, even biblically it is made clear that providence should be a "man" thing.

From your concept, people have been using the word "responsible" for a good man . That was why I reiterated that a responsible man is one who doesn't bring anything to the table but whose character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding. If only the man must be responsible, does it mean women are irresponsible in relationships and marriages? If a responsible woman only comes into a martial union with fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, a man who does the same is not responsible?

Moreover, where in the Bible was only the man asked to provide?

Kindly look up 1tim 5:8 sir. Correspondingly, Ephesians 5:25, “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,”
A husband is supposed to love his wife like Christ loved the church. The way Christ loved the church was by allowing himself to be tortured to death for it. Love= giving giving= providence The word "gave" = providence

onlyhope:
From your concept, people have been using the word "responsible" for a good man . That was why I reiterated that a responsible man is one who doesn't bring anything to the table but whose character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding. If only the man must be responsible, does it mean women are irresponsible in relationships and marriages? If a responsible woman only comes into a martial union with fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, a man who does the same is not responsible?

Moreover, where in the Bible was only the man asked to provide?

verminnel:
Kindly look up 1tim 5:8 sir. Correspondingly, Ephesians 5:25, “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,”
A husband is supposed to love his wife like Christ loved the church. The way Christ loved the church was by allowing himself to be tortured to death for it. Love= giving giving= providence The word "gave" = providence

But a wife also loves her husband, right? So how does love equal to carrying responsibilities all alone? Everybody and anyone can love. It's a responsibility for all humans. So, the woman can love without providence but the man's must be interpreted as providence?

Again, if a man cannot provide because he lost his job for 6 years, then, he's loveless? The wife of a man who lost his job cannot provide capital for him to run a business or loan him some cash because the Bible stated that a woman must not provide for her household?

Moreover, the Bible mentioned that everyone responsible for a household should provide, why are the heathens always more particular about men?

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You are right. But you forgot to include the virtuous gbola he must also bring and submit only to the wife, and then the wife will have welcome all that on the Table". Lols
Seriously, if a man in the consciousness of being the head and leader, does all that truely and genuinely, he already being everything to the Table.

onlyhope:
A responsible man should not bring anything to the table. When he showers his wife with fidelity, love, understanding and niceness. I think that should be balanced too.

That is where the leader or head comes in. In every functional society/organization/institution, there must be a "chosen" head or a leader. The leadership position comes with unique responsibilities and sacrifices that cannot be equated with any other position in that institution.

Someone (either you or your woman) must be mutually agreed to take the position of leadership in your marriage or you relationship (which is a formal institution), otherwise, you two are not couple but rather contemporaries.

Contemporaries are like 2 drivers on the one steering of a vehicle. Contemporaries are bound to continue to complete for domination untill the inferior is edged out by the superior, or till both both fall out of time and event.

onlyhope:
From your concept, people have been using the word "responsible" for a good man . That was why I reiterated that a responsible man is one who doesn't bring anything to the table but whose character reflects fidelity, respect, love, and understanding. If only the man must be responsible, does it mean women are irresponsible in relationships and marriages? If a responsible woman only comes into a martial union with fidelity, respect, love, and understanding, a man who does the same is not responsible?

Moreover, where in the Bible was only the man asked to provide?

McLizbae:
That is where the leader or head comes in. In every functional society/organization/institution, there must be a "chosen" head or a leader. The leadership position comes with unique responsibilities and sacrifices that cannot be equated with any other position in that institution.

Someone (either you or your woman) must be mutually agreed to take the position of leadership in your marriage or you relationship (which is a formal institution), otherwise, you two are not couple but rather contemporaries.

Contemporaries are like 2 drivers on the one steering of a vehicle. Contemporaries are bound to continue to complete for domination untill the inferior is edged out by the superior, or till both both fall out of time and event.

This leadership story is laughable. Some women are now taking up leadership positions in the church. Nowadays, a woman pastors her husband in church as the leader. Will she becomes his follower at home? (I wouldn't know).

You think a woman who is the spiritual head over her husband will submit to the man totally in all things? I'm sure even if she tries to do in all other aspects, she won't in spirituality.

Responsibility does not consider whether you are a leader or follower. Things should get done. That's what matters. If you checked what the lady posted, she used a Bible passage which many people have been using wrongly: 1 Tim 5:8.

1 Tim 5 vs 8 says:

King James:
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. (KJV)

Amplified:
If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters]. (AMP)

Message:
But those who won't care for their own relatives, especially those living in the same household, have denied what we believe. Such people are worse than unbelievers. (NLT)

...and NIV, NKJV, MSB refer to "everyone" not "MAN" like they've all been screaming.

Women know that making money is hard but they want to trivialize it. Make the man do all di work, make hin no give di wife anything, you go see nagging and wahala. If na woman do di work, make man no even try am say he wan taste hin wife moni. Na so life suppose be?