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Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja - Politics (3) - Nairaland

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Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by hkidola00(m): 1:21pm On Sep 05, 2025
texas 600,nigeria 900....hows that slighly
Mayflowa:
What is wrong with Nigeria? You do not just divide a state. To what end? Texas state in United States is slightly less than the full Nigeria. No one ever talks of dividing Texas. The larger the size, the better the resources. United states has never divided its states since 1800s. They only buy states from other country to add to their number of states.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by malali: 1:34pm On Sep 05, 2025
DeOTR:
Kebbi and Sokoto states have no business being two states. They should be one. Same as Kano and Jigawa. I don't even know why Yobe and Borno should be different states or Gombe and Bauchi.
Do you think Kebbi, Gombe, Jigawa or Yobe would have a state if they weren't before now?
Ibadan is more economically viable than all the aforementioned states combined. Ibadan satisfies every criteria for State creation, so I don't know your problem.

Tell us why Ibadan should be a state.
Have you been to Niger state ?
Have you been to kwara state ?
Give us metrics.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by RISQUE: 1:35pm On Sep 05, 2025
kheny12:
Ibadan state will be a good idea.... because Oyo state is too large and can carve out like 3 other states.
What's the population of Oyo State?
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Goodvibes007: 1:35pm On Sep 05, 2025
PigTormentor:
No need for Ibadan state. The states that we have now is enough.
But you want Anioma state.

Infact we dont need any state again.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by gidgiddy: 1:37pm On Sep 05, 2025
Difrent:
State creation is done to put some agitation to rest. Creating Ibadan state will make political social and economic development spread to the other parts of the present Oyo state have which have been largely neglected because Ibadan alone takes 2/3rd of almost everything.

Besides , Oyo is the largest southern state by land mass, almost as big as the entire south east. Other states needs to be broken too like Kaduna , Niger and Borno. But I don't agree with all agitators even though I wouldn't want to deny them the opportunity to try and make a case for themselves
State is not based on land size, its based on population. The population of Oyo may not be up to that of Anambra
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Goodvibes007: 1:40pm On Sep 05, 2025
gidgiddy:
State is not based on land size, its based on population. The population of Oyo may not be up to that of Anambra
What the size of Niger state, gombe star, Bornu state e.t.c

Are those states not very big with low population?
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Shikena(m): 1:40pm On Sep 05, 2025
I join millions of Nigerians across the globe in saying no to this misplaced priority.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Goodvibes007: 1:41pm On Sep 05, 2025
gidgiddy:
State is not based on land size, its based on population. The population of Oyo may not be up to that of Anambra
And Oyo has more population than Anambra.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Goodvibes007: 1:43pm On Sep 05, 2025
RISQUE:
What's the population of Oyo State?
Only kano, lagos, katsina, bauchi have more population than Oyo.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by gidgiddy: 1:55pm On Sep 05, 2025
Goodvibes007:
And Oyo has more population than Anambra.
I doubt that very much
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by BondRiv: 2:03pm On Sep 05, 2025
Are you guys done running the existing one efficiently? Just busy creating more problems instead of solutions.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by Vos1(m): 3:19pm On Sep 05, 2025
shox:
Yoruba- Fulani go dominate ido osun
Im not from there
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by JustYourself: 11:37pm On Sep 05, 2025
malali:
What exactly is the criteria for demanding statehood?

If someone insists that Ibadan should be made a state, shouldn’t he face the public in a proper press conference to explain why?

Look at America:
• Texas is so massive you can drive 24 hours across it and still be in the same state.
• Some U.S. states even stretch across multiple time zones.E.g California.


Yet, they’re not breaking themselves up into little fragments every time someone feels entitled.

Meanwhile, here, every small local government with three roundabouts wants to crown itself a “state.” For what? Prestige? More political appointments? Access to federal allocation?

This constant agitation for micro-states is unserious. Real states are built around economic viability, infrastructure, and governance capacity, not just sentiment.


Until someone can define the hard criteria, population size, GDP output, landmass, resources, this noise about turning every LGA into a state is nothing but a distraction.
States in Nigeria is equivalent of counties in USA and Nigeria a equivalent of sates in USA since some state in USA is as big as nigeria such as Alaska and california which almost equivalent,for me more states and LGAs should be created and LGAs made autonomous as this will help bring development much closer to the people and help reduce poverty as it is obtainable in UK.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by malali: 6:21am On Sep 06, 2025
JustYourself:
States in Nigeria is equivalent of counties in USA and Nigeria a equivalent of sates in USA since some state in USA is as big as nigeria such as Alaska and california which almost equivalent,for me more states and LGAs should be created and LGAs made autonomous as this will help bring development much closer to the people and help reduce poverty as it is obtainable in UK.
The real problem in Nigeria isn’t that our states are too big , it’s that we have a managerial crisis. A competent governor, working hand-in-hand with diligent local government chairmen, can significantly reduce poverty. But when LGAs mismanage funds, equity disappears, and citizens suffer.

Some argue for the continuous splitting of states, but if we follow that logic to the end, we might as well split the entire country into fragments. Creating new states only piles up costs: a fresh government house, fleets of official cars, bloated payrolls with commissioners and aides , all of them focused more on self-enrichment than service. The money used to run a new state could have been better spent developing the existing region.


If any region aspires to statehood, let it first prove viability. For example, such a region should commit to remitting 100% of its targeted revenue to the Federal Government for at least four years. If they cannot demonstrate sustainable revenue generation, then it’s clear they are not ready. What most agitators want is not self-reliance but access to federal allocation.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by DeOTR: 3:19pm On Sep 07, 2025
malali:

Tell us why Ibadan should be a state.
Have you been to Niger state ?
Have you been to kwara state ?
Give us metrics.
The proposed ibadan state as we know it is more economically viable than Niger would ever be. Ibadan metro alone is almost 4milli in population. What exactly are the remaining criteria after economic and demographic? Argue with statistics. I'm from Kwara State in case you're confused.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by malali: 3:21am On Sep 08, 2025
DeOTR:
The proposed ibadan state as we know it is more economically viable than Niger would ever be. Ibadan metro alone is almost 4milli in population. What exactly are the remaining criteria after economic and demographic? Argue with statistics. I'm from Kwara State in case you're confused.
2023 Internally Generated Revenue (IGR)
• Oyo State: ₦52.74 billion (₦40.52B taxes + ₦12.12B MDAs)  
• Kwara State: ₦59.64 billion (₦23.12B taxes + ₦36.51B MDAs)  

Kwara generated more IGR than Oyo state in 2023. There are statistics to prove this and Kwara has more IGR growth than Oyo state. Voodoo politics must stop in Nigeria, we have numbers and statistics to prove it.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by DeOTR: 7:58am On Sep 08, 2025
malali:
2023 Internally Generated Revenue (IGR)
• Oyo State: ₦52.74 billion (₦40.52B taxes + ₦12.12B MDAs)  
• Kwara State: ₦59.64 billion (₦23.12B taxes + ₦36.51B MDAs)  

Kwara generated more IGR than Oyo state in 2023. There are statistics to prove this and Kwara has more IGR growth than Oyo state. Voodoo politics must stop in Nigeria, we have numbers and statistics to prove it.
Stop bringing statistics from thin air. You're not dealing with almajiris here.
Of course, you can't justify why almajiri states are being duplicated just for them to enjoy more national cakes unmerited and had to resort to Kwara State. Does Kwara State resemble your average northern state? Kwara is a progressive state with 65% Yoruba populations. We're not beggars.
I've added the screenshot for you to compare since you decided to manufacture your own data. Note that more than half of what you see coming from Oyo state is from the ibadan area. Please explain why we have a Niger or kebbi states, but we can't have ibadan state?

Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by malali: 12:08pm On Sep 08, 2025
DeOTR:
Stop bringing statistics from thin air. You're not dealing with almajiris here.
Of course, you can't justify why almajiri states are being duplicated just for them to enjoy more national cakes unmerited and had to resort to Kwara State. Does Kwara State resemble your average northern state? Kwara is a progressive state with 65% Yoruba populations. We're not beggars.
I've added the screenshot for you to compare since you decided to manufacture your own data. Note that more than half of what you see coming from Oyo state is from the ibadan area. Please explain why we have a Niger or kebbi states, but we can't have ibadan state?
I will only engage in discussions where there is mutual respect and the maturity to agree to disagree without resorting to name-calling or personal attacks. You are welcome to present your evidence and statistics, but the moment this conversation devolves into insults, I will disengage and may block you.

Regarding the matter at hand, the fragmentation of states under military rule did not inherently lead to increased development, as you suggested with “Ibadan State.” On the contrary, evidence suggests that smaller, fragmented states often incur higher costs of governance without necessarily improving developmental outcomes. I still maintain that “Ibadan State” will not solve the issues at hand.

Your attempt to vilify the North is irrelevant to the discussion. The states were fragmented by military rulers for reasons that were their own; the populations did not request these divisions. We are now in a democracy, where changes are determined by votes, not by force or insults online.

I respectfully ask that you refrain from personal attacks. Disrespect will not be tolerated.
Re: Ibadan Becoming A State Is Long Overdue - Olubadan-designate, Ladoja by lawani(m): 6:28pm On Sep 08, 2025
Goodvibes007:
Only kano, lagos, katsina, bauchi have more population than Oyo.
I have been researching. Oyo has second highest number of everything after Lagos. Hotels, bakeries and etc. Given that Oyo is large too, I wonder how Kano has a higher population. Lagos has over 800 bakeries for instance and Oyo has over 500. It may however be that Kano is very rural. For example their Gov Ganduje said 24 local governments have no banks. I think it may show that the population of those local governments is very low. Kano state also has less than 250 hotels while Oyo has over 1000. Is it really possible for Kano to have more population than Oyo or is it that millions of people live in bushes in Kano?

Really all Yoruba traditional states should be states. Any group that wants a state should be given a state but representation at the center should be determined by tax revenue because tax revenue is the only irrefutable indicator of population
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