₦airaland Forum

They should disband those elements called hisbah. Those are not constitutional recognize police force

eagleonearth:
State policing is a brainchild of Goodluck Jonathan's national conference. It is very much welcome but just like every other thing associated with the average Nigerian politician, it is subject to Bastardisation because of political witch hunting and other antisocial activities of state power brokers. I weep for the black man. We actually live out what president Botha of South Africa said during the days of apartheid when he said that guns given to a black man is to kill each other with it.

There are already a lot of uniformed mad people with guns out there, let us look well before leaping in this state policing too.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state. Your state can do without it, we need it in our states.

DesChyko:
Putting the cart before the horse. I tend to agree with sorting the financing of State police before going ahead with it.

Even the regular police today have to make ends meet through egunje bribes on the roads and captures.

Some states have the funds, focus on your state, you only have your state to speak on, you don't live or come from every state, people are talking existence and survival you are talking nonsense.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state.

Ruke1990:
These northern politicians have evil intentions beneath this open support. They may be looking for a state police they can use for 2027 election rigging since it will be under their control. Tinubu has completely emasculated them and strapped them of their electoral value. I guess they are seeking to use the state police for a come back.
Northern politicians are not known to supporting good things. So this calls for suspicion of their true motives. Northern politicians who even lied that no more insecurity under buhari are now shouting everywhere about insecurity. Their brand of politics is unfortunate one

The reason we call for state police, is to allow every state to take charge of their state, and stop infiltration of terrorists and bandits. State parliament will make laws that their state police will follow, if you don't like a state system, live in your state.

State police is about survival, fighting the existential threat posed by the Fulani herdsmen and kidnappers...when you get kidnapped you will see the need for state to have their police.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state.

madridguy:
Sincerely, I don't seems to see State police as solution to our insecurity. Our governors are just shameless and just there to steal our commonwealth.

Whoever that witness the era of Gov. Fashola in Lagos State will know it doesn't require rocket science to combat insecurity in a state.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state. In this federal system, what belongs to you is your state.

Every state parliament will make their laws that their police will follow, if you don't like it, stay in your state.

eagleonearth:
State policing is a brainchild of Goodluck Jonathan's national conference. It is very much welcome but just like every other thing associated with the average Nigerian politician, it is subject to Bastardisation because of political witch hunting and other antisocial activities of state power brokers. I weep for the black man. We actually live out what president Botha of South Africa said during the days of apartheid when he said that guns given to a black man is to kill each other with it.

There are already a lot of uniformed mad people with guns out there, let us look well before leaping in this state policing too.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state.

Our state needs it, your state can do without it.

Ruke1990:
I support creation of state police and do not understand what is still delaying it since tinubu summoned all the governors from day 1 to Abuja to think about it and give him their opinion
A workable state police solution should be one where the number one boss is not a political appointment but appointed by a civil service process based on years in service, awards won while in service and inputs from civil society groups/community leaders. While a governor may have power to remove the person, he must not be given power to appoint. Even the removal must be only when there is evidence of corruption, abuse of due processes or serious petitions from the public on issues involving partisan and criminal behaviours from the leader. Upon removal, he must be entitled to his salary for life - incase it is politically motivated so that officers in that position will not bow to the whims and calories of the state governor even if they take operational instructions from them. The police boss salary must be deducted straight from the state allocation before the state gets it's share

These kids talking against it, should simply tell their own governors they don't want it, if they are not pleased that a state has it, they can leave the state. The police of a state will operate by the laws of the state, passed by it's parliament...some of them are typing from safe havens, if they ever have been kidnapped, they won't be talking against it.

People should focus on their state of origin, this is their business in this federal system.

Ttalk:
I know some people who will be jittery with this news, anything that has to do with regionalism or true federalism is a no go area for them

Either they like it or not, Nigeria will operate as a true federalism or regionalism so we can identify the leeches that always claiming developers.

They condermn state vat collection.

They go against tax reform bill

They have now surged their heads to condemn state police.


Nigeria is not a. Unitary system, if you want good governance, create one

I've not seen a more disastrous take on things in the last few months than this your take.

The next and true step to true federalism is state control of resources. Especially oil.

omenka:
I am a thousand percent opposed to this idea. Nigerians have proven. Time and again to be very poor handlers of power. I prefer at this stage we keep dealing with One Emperor (anyone who is the president) as against 35.

We've not grown to such extent we can moderate our use of constitutional powers on the people. Until such a time comes, count me out of this.

Yourself and your state can be counted out.

Or do you come from every state?

Your state can be without it, mention your state and say we don't want it, not speaking for Nigeria, you are insignificant...you can only speak for your state. Nobody invited you to other states, if you don't like a state policing system you can leave.

People should focus on their state. I wonder who gave you insignificant people the right to speak for others, you can leave your state open for bandits to come rape your women and destroy your lands. Speak on your state, you are not everywhere in Nigeria.

Ruke1990:
These northern politicians have evil intentions beneath this open support. They may be looking for a state police they can use for 2027 election rigging since it will be under their control. Tinubu has completely emasculated them and strapped them of their electoral value. I guess they are seeking to use the state police for a come back.
Northern politicians are not known to supporting good things. So this calls for suspicion of their true motives. Northern politicians who even lied that no more insecurity under buhari are now shouting everywhere about insecurity. Their brand of politics is unfortunate one

exactly what I wanted to say.... Those guys are very funny people ..., tinubu till 2050.

Successlane:
Just imagining fully armed police under the control of governors like Wike, Yahaya Bello, El-Rufai, etc
Just thinking loud

Do you live everywhere?
Are you from everywhere?

Why can't you people focus on your state?

People are dying from kidnappers and terrorists, you are talking of your feelings. If your state don't want it, no one is forcing you people, but don't speak for others.

omenka:
I am a thousand percent opposed to this idea. Nigerians have proven. Time and again to be very poor handlers of power. I prefer at this stage we keep dealing with One Emperor (anyone who is the president) as against 35.

We've not grown to such extent we can moderate our use of constitutional powers on the people. Until such a time comes, count me out of this.

Advice your state governor not to have it, in this Nigeria, your state is your business, you can't speak for the whole Nigeria.

Do you live everywhere?
Are you from everywhere?

What is your business with every state?

Focus on your state of origin and advise your governor against it, this una oversabi too much, people are dying you are talking of your insignificant feelings.

keemsleek:
Is the state police a good idea? Yes. Is Nigeria ripe enough to operate it? NO. My reasons.
1) What is the probability that militant, terrorist won't infritrate it? If at national that could happened how much state?
2) tribalism
3) religion input
4) if ordinary local vigilante can misbehave like operate, the issue in Anambra etc what is the probability ut won't be worse under stare police?
5) political influence
6) power tussle between the federal and state police.
7) recruitment process: will it be strictly for the state indigenes or everyone? Etc

Has good as it sounds, nigerian will destroy it and the aim won't be achieved.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state.

Federal system gives states the right, what you feel is inconsequential and unimportant, your governor can leave your state for bandits and kidnappers.

We are not one, we are a collection of tribes, focus on your state, this is what concerns you and what you can speak on.

People have been saying they want their own country, true federalism is the closest to having your own country.

dederocs:
These kids talking against it, should simply tell their own governors they don't want it, if they are not pleased that a state has it, they can leave the state. The police of a state will operate by the laws of the state, passed by it's parliament...some of them are typing from safe havens, if they ever have been kidnapped, they won't be talking against it.

People should focus on their state of origin, this is their business in this federal system.

I don't support state police ... If they must give state police they should also give resources control,...u can't give A state police and use B resources to fund them while B suffer insecurity....

Reloadedisraelp:
I don't support state police ... If they must give state police they should also give resources control,...u can't give A state police and use B resources to fund them while B suffer insecurity....

Both state police and resource control are elements of our federal structure, we can have on and fight for the other...you can advise your governor against it, focus on your state, that is where you belong and have a right to speak on, only your state belongs to you in the federal system of Nigeria.

All state for itself, speak about your state or do you belong or live in every state?

Focus on your state, if you don't like a state policing system, stay in your state, you can advise your own state governor against it. You have no right to speak for other states. Mention your state and tell your governor that you don't want state police, you are not from every state.

Ttalk:
I know some people who will be jittery with this news, anything that has to do with regionalism or true federalism is a no go area for them

Either they like it or not, Nigeria will operate as a true federalism or regionalism so we can identify the leeches that always claiming developers.

They condermn state vat collection.

They go against tax reform bill

They have now surged their heads to condemn state police.


Nigeria is not a. Unitary system, if you want good governance, create one

Always backwards in their thinking.

When the Southern Govs voted for state police in the last constitutional amendment the northern Govs voted against it. Now bandits are dealing with them and they are begging now for state police. Low thinking is their problem. They lack vision.

dederocs:
Advice your state governor not to have it, in this Nigeria, your state is your business, you can't speak for the whole Nigeria.

Do you live everywhere?
Are you from everywhere?

What is your business with every state?

Focus on your state of origin and advise your governor against it, this una oversabi too much, people are dying you are talking of your insignificant feelings.

You sound so bitter. I'm too sure this isn't about my comment here, but something deeper is eating you up. You have my sympathies.

omenka:
You sound so bitter. I'm too sure this isn't about my comment here, but something deeper is eating you up. You have my sympathies.

Am just surprised that you people don't know that in a federal system, your state is your only business, other states are not your business. Go and tell your governor that you don't want state police and don't go to states that have it, simple. You kids need to enlighten yourselves before opening that mouth to talk, all these kids still being fed at home.

dederocs:
Am just surprised that you people don't know that in a federal system, your state is your only business, other states are not your business. Go and tell your governor that you don't want state police and don't go to states that have it, simple. You kids need to enlighten yourselves before opening that mouth to talk, all these kids still being fed at home.

Okay grandpa. We kids have heard you. You may leave now. Sounding like a Gringori adviser.

omenka:
Okay grandpa. We kids have heard you. You may leave now. Sounding like a Gringori adviser.

Children scared of being responsible for themselves...weak parasitic states and people can be seen now.

omenka:
Okay grandpa. We kids have heard you. You may leave now. Sounding like a Gringori adviser.

Are you people children, can't take care of yourselves?

I have no respect for weak people

So do appoint an Ombudsman for each state ? What's up bro.

omenka:
I am a thousand percent opposed to this idea. Nigerians have proven. Time and again to be very poor handlers of power. I prefer at this stage we keep dealing with One Emperor (anyone who is the president) as against 35.

We've not grown to such extent we can moderate our use of constitutional powers on the people. Until such a time comes, count me out of this.