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Dam5reey:
I have tested Sako, Sako na Full and complete Cells.

Cworth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8e2VY3_CO0?si=JW0qePcBdAiRLK9W

That's not good..... Maybe with all the reviews going on about their products, they will wake up.

Peterlove11:
That's not good..... Maybe with all the reviews going on about their products, they will wake up.

They understand us better than ourselves. We like cheap beautiful packages. Aesthetic is never my thing. Personally, it is either diy or nothing except other factors that I will never complained about.

If the price did not shock us, we should not complain at all.

dollarnaira:
They understand us better than ourselves. We like cheap beautiful packages. Aesthetic is never my thing. Personally, it is either diy or nothing except other factors that I will never complained about.

If the price did not shock us, we should not complain at all.

They know the people often like it shiny. Nobody makes it as shiny as the fake merchants. They often go over the top in adding unnecessary LEDs to the mix so everything lights up like a toddler's shoe

mctfopt:
They know the people often like it shiny. Nobody makes it as shiny as the fake merchants. They often go over the top in adding unnecessary LEDs to the mix so everything lights up like a toddler's shoe

Haisic... Teardown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR4Ni6M1pJk?si=cRZE2WxSQDS04Tts

mctfopt:
They know the people often like it shiny. Nobody makes it as shiny as the fake merchants. They often go over the top in adding unnecessary LEDs to the mix so everything lights up like a toddler's shoe

Dam5reey:
I have tested Sako, Sako na Full and complete Cells.

Cworth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8e2VY3_CO0?si=JW0qePcBdAiRLK9W

Exactly what i said.
And i bought 3 of this for a client last year. Even paid 4m for one 😭😭. Just seeing their backup i didn't even need to open inside to know that the cells are undersized.
I regret buying it for them. Hope they can still do like 5-7 years them though.

dollarnaira:
They understand us better than ourselves. We like cheap beautiful packages. Aesthetic is never my thing. Personally, it is either diy or nothing except other factors that I will never complained about.

If the price did not shock us, we should not complain at all.

Same thing i always say.
This year, added many battery packs and all are DIY. That's the route I'm standing on always. Not following any brand

Dam5reey:
Haisic... Teardown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR4Ni6M1pJk?si=cRZE2WxSQDS04Tts

Why will they use 280a and market 314a?

Haisic needs to be boycotted by people going for brands.

interesting and educating thread i must say. kudos guys.

which set would you guys suggest for me
1 130W fridge
1 43 inch tv
1 250W soundbar
6 light points
2 standing fans
1 PS4
2 laptops and a phone
i currently stay in a place where there is epileptic electricity.
plus i dont stay in a place for long due to the nature of my work.

i was looking at the ecoflow delta series. i dont know if it will suffice.

CuteMaro:
Just saw your video. Haisic performed quite well for the price.

So apparently, the most popular brands flying around here have been short changing customers

Buyers beware, stop buying names. The best bang for your bucks apparently are;

DIY from Valto and Mrreed (Untested though)
Deriy
Firman
LVtopsun
Deye
in no particular order.
and Haisic.

Chief please test Sako if you can, those guys have suffered some bad PR in the past, maybe they can use this opportunity to redeem themselves.

no be Today I don dey talk am say Popular products are most times rubbish. e get reasons I mostly go with unPopular items

ask4bk:
Why will they use 280a and market 314a?

Haisic needs to be boycotted by people going for brands.

Do I need remind you guys why I kept saying to only go Lithium if you trust your dealer well enough. me no get time or money to be randomly testing different things. I find a couple reliable enough and I stick with them.

A lot of those manufacturers align with marketers to convince and lure customers including Installers. reason why it pays to know what you want. I rather come back than just take anything just because what I came for is not available.

meanwhile, those buying brand new Solar panels need be sure they're really buying brand new ones as Igbo boys don dey carton used panels and selling as new.

What they do after Testing and washing the used panels is, they grade them according to how neat they are. Those neat enough to fool customers as New gets put into cartons. Most times, they don't over rate them hence 280-watts remains 280-watts though they still change the stickers so it looks very new.
Since they didn't overrate them, capacity testings and even Voltage and current tests are most likely to remain accurate hence you no go notice am.

Once again, if not sure of your dealer, waka enter recognized shops and even at that, you still need be careful because staffs in such places could play their own games also. Haven't seen it happen in Solar BUT in phones, have seen it happen

ask4bk:
Same thing i always say.
This year, added many battery packs and all are DIY. That's the route I'm standing on always. Not following any brand

if Only I could recall the exact page where I said something similar while I was being attacked for not blindly supporting lithium batteries.

mctfopt:
They know the people often like it shiny. Nobody makes it as shiny as the fake merchants. They often go over the top in adding unnecessary LEDs to the mix so everything lights up like a toddler's shoe

Same thing happens in my line of work; Client prefers super shiny websites even when they're less performant and difficult to maintain. All na packaging. if only the good ones also package theirs similarly BUT then again, beauty ain't the only thing customers look out for; price is one of them

bassdow:
meanwhile, those buying brand new Solar panels need be sure they're really buying brand new ones as Igbo boys don dey carton used panels and selling as new.

This is the first time I’m seeing a tribalistic comment on this thread. Please stop it. It’s not cool. You can say “Alaba boys” and everyone can read whatever meaning to it.

BigDickProblems:
This is the first time I’m seeing a tribalistic comment on this thread. Please stop it. It’s not cool. You can say “Alaba boys” and everyone can read whatever meaning to it.

The hate on igbo too much self. Maybe he's from the west.

Jefferyzz:
It's not by display u go take no if controller nah mppt or not, open up d control n see d internals, or look through the vents, avnt see pwm come with rs485 port. The controller get app if u won see colorful designs.

Even inside of MPPT can be faked.

ask4bk:
Same thing i always say.
This year, added many battery packs and all are DIY. That's the route I'm standing on always. Not following any brand

Even your so called DIY cells have brands and are prone to faking too so whats special about DIY at the end. Many dont do good DIY jobs. DIY is stresful and not so scalable.

Valto:
i don't use Hithuim and has never bought any. i use brand new grade A Gotion cells and it is 12000 cycles!. i also use EVE cells.

it carries 12000 cycles but have you confirmed by reaching the 12000 cycles.

Valto:
i don't use Hithuim and has never bought any. i use brand new grade A Gotion cells and it is 12000 cycles!. i also use EVE cells.

it carries 12000 cycles but have you confirmed by reaching the 12000 cycles?

ask4bk:
Why will they use 280a and market 314a?

Haisic needs to be boycotted by people going for brands.

Good point to note, however the reason I still recommend is the ridiculously cheap price for what is being offered compared to other so called reputable brands. Even cheaper than most DIY's for 280ah. I think it's a great deal regardless.

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TechGeek777:
The hate on igbo too much self. Maybe he's from the west.

It's not hatred, it's just stereotype which unfortunately most people grew up with. It's good that people are being called out on things like this. This way they will eventually get to change their views.

I think you're also guilty by assuming he is from the West lol. Whether we like it or not, in Nigeria, growing up there are some stereotypes ascribed to each and every region. It takes education, traveling and experience to beat.

Please can all those who made a comment on tribal lines delete them? It has never happened here. We should not allow it grow beyond this page. Please let us delete delete delete. Na beg I dey beg oooo.
@penuelseun
Cutemaro
Bassdow
TechGeek777

BangaRice:
Even your so called DIY cells have brands and are prone to faking too so whats special about DIY at the end. Many dont do good DIY jobs. DIY is stresful and not so scalable.

Nope... The cells are all tested before use. A 280a cell discharges 300a; a 314ah will discharge around 330ah. Signs they are brand new. Just get a reputable seller in China and you'll escape getting bad or harvested cells.

DIY isn't stressful when it's your passion to build. I'm sure you change bulb in your home.. That alone is stressful for some people and the prefer to pay electricians to do it. If you also don't want to do it yourself, pay a good builder to do it for you using cells and bms you trust. Will still be cheaper and far better quality than big brands.

Poor job? Yes.. That could happen. And again that's why you should be sure of what you are doing when building or you pay a good builder to do it for you.

Go to YouTube and channels like offgrid garage and thousands more will let you know how crazy people are for DIY in the western world over any brands.

Lastly we've this poor Nigerian mentality that anything made in Nigeria is poor quality. Lol. Pure self deception.

ask4bk:
Nope... The cells are all tested before use. A 280a cell discharges 300a; a 314ah will discharge around 330ah. Signs they are brand new. Just get a reputable seller in China and you'll escape getting bad or harvested cells.

DIY isn't stressful when it's your passion to build. I'm sure you change bulb in your home.. That alone is stressful for some people and the prefer to pay electricians to do it. If you also don't want to do it yourself, pay a good builder to do it for you using cells and bms you trust. Will still be cheaper and far better quality than big brands.

Poor job? Yes.. That could happen. And again that's why you should be sure of what you are doing when building or you pay a good builder to do it for you.

Go to YouTube and channels like offgrid garage and thousands more will let you know how crazy people are for DIY in the western world over any brands.

Lastly we've this poor Nigerian mentality that anything made in Nigeria is poor quality. Lol. Pure self deception.

Well said.

BangaRice:
Even your so called DIY cells have brands and are prone to faking too so whats special about DIY at the end. Many dont do good DIY jobs. DIY is stresful and not so scalable.

Just coupling 4 to 16 cells with bolts and nuts is super less stressful compared to welding lithium ion cells of hundreds.

Hotdiamond:
interesting and educating thread i must say. kudos guys.

which set would you guys suggest for me
1 130W fridge
1 43 inch tv
1 250W soundbar
6 light points
2 standing fans
1 PS4
2 laptops and a phone
i currently stay in a place where there is epileptic electricity.
plus i dont stay in a place for long due to the nature of my work.

i was looking at the ecoflow delta series. i dont know if it will suffice.

If you want to go for 48v which is mostly advised, just overkill it will a 10kwh battery backup and 5kva inverter of your choice, then panels to charge.

If you want to go cheaper, you can go for 24v system and have 7-8kwh backup, 3-3.5kva inverter and panels. But this isn't advised coz tomorrow you may want to add load and you'll stay at home more and you won't have option than to move to 48v to reduce current.

CuteMaro:
Good point to note, however the reason I still recommend is the ridiculously cheap price for what is being offered compared to other so called reputable brands. Even cheaper than most DIY's for 280ah. I think it's a great deal regardless.

Some months back i got 280ah 24v (7.2kw) from mrreed at 850 k... That's cheaper than the fake 300ah that is 280ah from haisic. Only from Valto will same 280ah be costlier than haisic, coz i think his gets to around 1.2 m or so. But that's with a better bms, screen and build over the jbd bms in the haisic. Mrreed still uses same elements (maybe different brand of cells) as Valto but he's still far cheaper, but that's only if he has cells 😢 unlike Valto who always have stock.

I currently run a patent medicine shop and I’m considering installing a backup power system. I’ve researched ecoflow power stations and I’m interested in the ecoflow DELTA 2 paired with a 600 W Jinko solar panel. Alternatively, I’ve been advised to consider a conventional inverter system with tubular batteries. Please recommend the option that best balances cost and durability. My typical load includes a 200 W refrigerator, two ceiling fans, one laptop, two POS terminals, eight energy-saving bulbs, three CCTV cameras, and a router.

ask4bk:
Some months back i got 280ah 24v (7.2kw) from mrreed at 850 k... That's cheaper than the fake 300ah that is 280ah from haisic. Only from Valto will same 280ah be costlier than haisic, coz i think his gets to around 1.2 m or so. But that's with a better bms, screen and build over the jbd bms in the haisic. Mrreed still uses same elements (maybe different brand of cells) as Valto but he's still far cheaper, but that's only if he has cells 😢 unlike Valto who always have stock.

Yes you're right. I also got 8.1kwh from mrreed at 920k. All I am saying is at entry level for someone looking for brands, Haisic is a fair deal considering the price for 280ah.

BangaRice:
Even your so called DIY cells have brands and are prone to faking too so whats special about DIY at the end. Many dont do good DIY jobs. DIY is stresful and not so scalable.

DIY is only stressful if it's not your hobby. Mind you, a lot of times, even DIY could be more expensive BUT like everything else, has got it's PROs and CONs.
Moreover except you went the cheap route or don't know how to spot quality parts, you're more likely to know how to use quality items. At end of the day, I rather remove 70-blocks per bag of cement and spend less than spending more buying same or worse quality from a block industry.

In DIY, you mostly get what you put in all things equal