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maxinvile:
I currently run a patent medicine shop and I’m considering installing a backup power system. I’ve researched ecoflow power stations and I’m interested in the ecoflow DELTA 2 paired with a 600 W Jinko solar panel. Alternatively, I’ve been advised to consider a conventional inverter system with tubular batteries. Please recommend the option that best balances cost and durability. My typical load includes a 200 W refrigerator, two ceiling fans, one laptop, two POS terminals, eight energy-saving bulbs, three CCTV cameras, and a router.

Kindly state you max budget Sir/Ma

ask4bk:
If you want to go for 48v which is mostly advised, just overkill it will a 10kwh battery backup and 5kva inverter of your choice, then panels to charge.

If you want to go cheaper, you can go for 24v system and have 7-8kwh backup, 3-3.5kva inverter and panels. But this isn't advised coz tomorrow you may want to add load and you'll stay at home more and you won't have option than to move to 48v to reduce current.

Thank you. What you suggested is cool. My budget limited at the moment. 1.3M max

ask4bk:
Nope... The cells are all tested before use. A 280a cell discharges 300a; a 314ah will discharge around 330ah. Signs they are brand new. Just get a reputable seller in China and you'll escape getting bad or harvested cells.

DIY isn't stressful when it's your passion to build. I'm sure you change bulb in your home.. That alone is stressful for some people and the prefer to pay electricians to do it. If you also don't want to do it yourself, pay a good builder to do it for you using cells and bms you trust. Will still be cheaper and far better quality than big brands.

Poor job? Yes.. That could happen. And again that's why you should be sure of what you are doing when building or you pay a good builder to do it for you.

Go to YouTube and channels like offgrid garage and thousands more will let you know how crazy people are for DIY in the western world over any brands.

Lastly we've this poor Nigerian mentality that anything made in Nigeria is poor quality. Lol. Pure self deception.

Wouldn't have responded had I seen your own response. You were very apt

dollarnaira:
Please can all those who made a comment on tribal lines delete them? It has never happened here. We should not allow it grow beyond this page. Please let us delete delete delete. Na beg I dey beg oooo.
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Cutemaro
Bassdow
TechGeek777

wait Ooo, na e be say I don break record. Either way, I doubt what I said qualifies as tribalistic though might be wrong. One of our issues in this country is sugar coating things. Yea, would have said Alaba boys if it occurred to me BUT that self would just be cosmetics.
Mind you, I'm Igbo to begin with. The koko be say; shey e dey happen abi e no dey happen ?

Funny enough, this seems the very first time I've ever distinct-ed among tribes on Nairaland. Going forward, would ensure there's no repeat, just so it doesn't seem like I'm nonchalantly rude and un-correctable.

If really we want to preach what we talk, and assuming relevant agencies such as SON are doing their work, such shops and outlets ought to be reported on daily basis so their wares are destroyed.

either way, point noted and taken.

Kindly state you max budget Sir/Ma[/quote]800k sir

bassdow:
Kindly state you max budget Sir/Ma

800k[quote][/quote]

CuteMaro:
It's not hatred, it's just stereotype which unfortunately most people grew up with. It's good that people are being called out on things like this. This way they will eventually get to change their views.

I think you're also guilty by assuming he is from the West lol. Whether we like it or not, in Nigeria, growing up there are some stereotypes ascribed to each and every region. It takes education, traveling and experience to beat.

Funny enough, we all guilty of this. Difference is we just mask it sometimes. BUT there are times we need not sugar coat things. I have seized the megaPhone of a preacher who kept disturbing our sleep at the early hours (around 5am) of the mornings - then was still a tenant and the gates were locked; As I tell am make e comot e no gree, I fly fence seize him noise making equipment. Guess what, our compound shares fence with a Mosque BUT I never had issues with them.

Now if you wanna be honest with yourself, between a Mosque and a Church, though both shouldn't be in a residential area, BUT if asked to choose one, I would very likely choose a mosque because they're less noisy than a church.

Sha the people couldn't talk much because I was a christian. Had it been I was a Muslim, they would have said it's because He's not a Christian.

For those who don't know, I am IGBO or IBO which ever way you wanna spell it.
I don't discriminate. I treat every tribe equal. I only differentiate based on personality.

One of my best employers while still an employee was actually in a company where there were only 2 Christians and the rest were Muslims. So you see, It's better you differentiate by Personality than religion or tribe.
When there are subtle differences, it's mostly among those who grew or resides within same environment.

Now the fact I'm a Christian, doesn't mean automatically I should rate all Christians as Good and all non Christians as different. Sadly that's what most people do and I always call them out. A cleric once made a comment while standing on a queue in a banking hall because he saw the Muslim prayer I used as wallpaper on ma phone's screen and he said but I don't look like a Muslim - I told him I saw the picture, liked it and used it as a wallpaper. yea I can be that weird. I ended by telling him if our skin is pierced, it's same blood that would ooze out. Even in hospitals, we don't differentiate between tribes and religion, hence such demarcations mean nothing to me.

A lot of us try to paint ourselves as GOOD when in reality, we're very very BAD. I don give una topic, make una use am SHINE. Don't forget, I'm not here to look for clients.

Hotdiamond:
Thank you. What you suggested is cool. My budget limited at the moment. 1.3M max

If you mean 1.3 m for battery, inverter, panels etc.. Then omo you go wait save more, like triple of wetin you get now. Your pocket never ready yet for the kind of loads you have

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bassdow:
Funny enough, we all guilty of this. Difference is we just mask it sometimes. BUT there are times we need not sugar coat things. I have seized the megaPhone of a preacher who kept disturbing our sleep at the early hours (around 5am) of the mornings - then was still a tenant and the gates were locked; As I tell am make e comot e no gree, I fly fence seize him noise making equipment. Guess what, our compound shares fence with a Mosque BUT I never had issues with them.

Now if you wanna be honest with yourself, between a Mosque and a Church, though both shouldn't be in a residential area, BUT if asked to choose one, I would very likely choose a mosque because they're less noisy than a church.

Sha the people couldn't talk much because I was a christian. Had it been I was a Muslim, they would have said it's because He's not a Christian.

For those who don't know, I am IGBO or IBO which ever way you wanna spell it.
I don't discriminate. I treat every tribe equal. I only differentiate based on personality.

One of my best employers while still an employee was actually in a company where there were only 2 Christians and the rest were Muslims. So you see, It's better you differentiate by Personality than religion or tribe.
When there are subtle differences, it's mostly among those who grew or resides within same environment.

Now the fact I'm a Christian, doesn't mean automatically I should rate all Christians as Good and all non Christians as different. Sadly that's what most people do and I always call them out. A cleric once made a comment while standing on a queue in a banking hall because he saw the Muslim prayer I used as wallpaper on ma phone's screen and he said but I don't look like a Muslim - I told him I saw the picture, liked it and used it as a wallpaper. yea I can be that weird. I ended by telling him if our skin is pierced, it's same blood that would ooze out. Even in hospitals, we don't differentiate between tribes and religion, hence such demarcations mean nothing to me.

A lot of us try to paint ourselves as GOOD when in reality, we're very very BAD. I don give una topic, make una use am SHINE. Don't forget, I'm not here to look for clients.

At times you don't explain some things. You let it slide. No be everything person dey defend even if you knew the absolute truth. No be everything person dey talk for Public.

bassdow:
Funny enough, we all guilty of this. Difference is we just mask it sometimes. BUT there are times we need not sugar coat things. I have seized the megaPhone of a preacher who kept disturbing our sleep at the early hours (around 5am) of the mornings - then was still a tenant and the gates were locked; As I tell am make e comot e no gree, I fly fence seize him noise making equipment. Guess what, our compound shares fence with a Mosque BUT I never had issues with them.

Now if you wanna be honest with yourself, between a Mosque and a Church, though both shouldn't be in a residential area, BUT if asked to choose one, I would very likely choose a mosque because they're less noisy than a church.

Sha the people couldn't talk much because I was a christian. Had it been I was a Muslim, they would have said it's because He's not a Christian.

For those who don't know, I am IGBO or IBO which ever way you wanna spell it.
I don't discriminate. I treat every tribe equal. I only differentiate based on personality.

One of my best employers while still an employee was actually in a company where there were only 2 Christians and the rest were Muslims. So you see, It's better you differentiate by Personality than religion or tribe.
When there are subtle differences, it's mostly among those who grew or resides within same environment.

Now the fact I'm a Christian, doesn't mean automatically I should rate all Christians as Good and all non Christians as different. Sadly that's what most people do and I always call them out. A cleric once made a comment while standing on a queue in a banking hall because he saw the Muslim prayer I used as wallpaper on ma phone's screen and he said but I don't look like a Muslim - I told him I saw the picture, liked it and used it as a wallpaper. yea I can be that weird. I ended by telling him if our skin is pierced, it's same blood that would ooze out. Even in hospitals, we don't differentiate between tribes and religion, hence such demarcations mean nothing to me.

A lot of us try to paint ourselves as GOOD when in reality, we're very very BAD. I don give una topic, make una use am SHINE. Don't forget, I'm not here to look for clients.

At times you don't explain some things. You let it slide. No be everything person dey defend even if you knew the absolute truth. No be everything person dey talk for Public.

The truth is that you are actually right but at times:
"I know my right can land you in trouble".

Hotdiamond:
interesting and educating thread i must say. kudos guys.

which set would you guys suggest for me
1 130W fridge
1 43 inch tv
1 250W soundbar
6 light points
2 standing fans
1 PS4
2 laptops and a phone
i currently stay in a place where there is epileptic electricity.
plus i dont stay in a place for long due to the nature of my work.

i was looking at the ecoflow delta series. i dont know if it will suffice.

1.3m
If you Manage your load wisely, 1.3m will go far. Your answer is in this thread. Nothing is new here anymore as we all are saying same thing in different ways.

Hotdiamond:
Thank you. What you suggested is cool. My budget limited at the moment. 1.3M max

Your budget is very close, however you might need to step it up a little bit.

You can go for the Haisic all in one 4.2kva and 8kwh battery at 1.250m, then get like 6 pieces of 620w panels. Think your budget for this should be around 2m in total. This can and will serve you because there is no way you're running your loads 24/7.

Optionally, you can go for say a 3.5kva 24v hybrid inverter and get mrreeds 7kwh battery, this should be slightly cheaper.

At the end of the day it's all about load management.

You can also get lesser options if you do your research well but on a good load management the above should be enough take you off grid at the moment.

If you want future proof which is the best option, then hold on, step up ur budget and go all out for a 48v system.

dollarnaira:
At times you don't explain some things. You let it slide. No be everything person dey defend even if you knew the absolute truth. No be everything person dey talk for Public.

The truth is that you are actually right but at times:
"I know my right can land you in trouble".

Actually you right BUT then again, keeping mute could be misinterpreted most especially when I knew I wasn't going to retract anything. If dem go judge, they go judge based on context.
Thanks noneTheLess

Hotdiamond:
interesting and educating thread i must say. kudos guys.

which set would you guys suggest for me
1 130W fridge
1 43 inch tv
1 250W soundbar
6 light points
2 standing fans
1 PS4
2 laptops and a phone
i currently stay in a place where there is epileptic electricity.
plus i dont stay in a place for long due to the nature of my work.

i was looking at the ecoflow delta series. i dont know if it will suffice.

Can see you've gotten a response already BUT I would add mine. Anything you do, for long term rest of mind, and cost effectiveness, avoid, Kindly avoid All-In-One solutions. Buy your Solar panels, Inverter, Charge Controller, Battery, etc all separately.

maxinvile:
I currently run a patent medicine shop and I’m considering installing a backup power system. I’ve researched ecoflow power stations and I’m interested in the ecoflow DELTA 2 paired with a 600 W Jinko solar panel. Alternatively, I’ve been advised to consider a conventional inverter system with tubular batteries. Please recommend the option that best balances cost and durability. My typical load includes a 200 W refrigerator, two ceiling fans, one laptop, two POS terminals, eight energy-saving bulbs, three CCTV cameras, and a router.

The response https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/2151#136728590 by @dollarnaira to @hotDiamond kinda applies to you also or at least very close BUT anything you do, for long term rest of mind, and cost effectiveness, avoid, Kindly avoid All-In-One solutions. Buy your Solar panels, Inverter, Charge Controller, Battery, etc all separately.

If truely 800,000 naira is the Max Max Max Budget you have or are willing to spend, then you would have to look into buying fairly used items BUT even then, except you have someone who would help you buy things Or you shop yourself, you might have to add more change to the money.
To give you an idea of cost of things, kindly give your location so I know if it's worth it or not

Hotdiamond:
Thank you. What you suggested is cool. My budget limited at the moment. 1.3M max

if you go used and only buy brand new battery, you [could] spend less than that 1.3m

Hello Guys,
Can anyone suggest where I can repair my Felicity 120A MPPT Charge Controller in Lagos? It's not detecting PV input. Thank you!

Hotdiamond:
Thank you. What you suggested is cool. My budget limited at the moment. 1.3M max

* Get a 12v 2kva Hybrid inverter from a good brand - SAKO, Bread, Welion, SMS. Should cost less than 300k.
* Get a 12v 3.6kwh/4kwh Lithium battery from either Mrreed, Deriy, or Valto, if you want excellent quality or go with CWorth if you don't mind questionable quality. Should cost around 500k.
* Purchase 2/3 550-750W panels from Jinko, Ja, Trina, Longi, etc. Budget around 300-400k
* Cables and installation materials could cost you about 100-150k along with the installation.

Enjoy your system.

Please do we have any good installer in Anambra State?

staticstring:
Hello Guys,
Can anyone suggest where I can repair my Felicity 120A MPPT Charge Controller in Lagos? It's not detecting PV input. Thank you!

If you not going to their outlet, you could always check out repairers in Arena @ Oshodi, or Alaba

maxinvile:
I currently run a patent medicine shop and I’m considering installing a backup power system. I’ve researched ecoflow power stations and I’m interested in the ecoflow DELTA 2 paired with a 600 W Jinko solar panel. Alternatively, I’ve been advised to consider a conventional inverter system with tubular batteries. Please recommend the option that best balances cost and durability. My typical load includes a 200 W refrigerator, two ceiling fans, one laptop, two POS terminals, eight energy-saving bulbs, three CCTV cameras, and a router.

This is what I'd advise considering your budget, since you already plan on getting a 600W Jinko panel, make it 2 pieces minimum. 3 will be adequate for rainy and overcast days. But 2 is fine.

Purchase a 12v 1.5kva hybrid inverter from a good brand like Bread, Welion or SMS. Should cost around 250k.

Add a 12v 2.5kwh/3kwh Lithium battery from either Mrreed, Deriy, CWorth, or reach out to Dam5reey1 for other budget friendly options. Would typically cost you around 350k.
Cables and installation materials could cost you about 100k along with the installation.

You're all set.

bassdow:
If you not going to their outlet, you could always check out repairers in Arena @ Oshodi, or Alaba

Thanks so much, can you share the address to their outlet?

staticstring:
Thanks so much, can you share the address to their outlet?

don't have Felicity's service center address BUT if to just get a repairer, enter Arena @Oshodi, or Alaba market, dem plenty there. Just pray make repair dey successful

Those that use starlink, is there a way to extend it's coverage over a long distance.

If yes, how affordable is it?

460pcs of p2 60w felicity solar street lights waybill to Abakaliki, Ebonyi state today..

AinsSama:
* Get a 12v 2kva Hybrid inverter from a good brand - SAKO, Bread, Welion, SMS. Should cost less than 300k.
* Get a 12v 3.6kwh/4kwh Lithium battery from either Mrreed, Deriy, or Valto, if you want excellent quality or go with CWorth if you don't mind questionable quality. Should cost around 500k.
* Purchase 2/3 550-750W panels from Jinko, Ja, Trina, Longi, etc. Budget around 300-400k
* Cables and installation materials could cost you about 100-150k along with the installation.
Thank you.

.
Enjoy your system.

Thank you for the response
I saw the SAKO Brand once, it was a setup with all SAKO kits from inverter to lithium battery.

bassdow:
don't have Felicity's service center address BUT if to just get a repairer, enter Arena @Oshodi, or Alaba market, dem plenty there. Just pray make repair dey successful

Thank you!

Fremlin:
Those that use starlink, is there a way to extend it's coverage over a long distance.

If yes, how affordable is it?

You can either use a router with Ethernet cable hardwired or for long distance line of sight CPE bridging- buy two outdoor wireless bridging equipment with router for long distance wireless extension.

Outdoor wireless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLC9J22LNy8 attached is the cost of a CPE outdoor equipment.


With routers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aShLy84RaMs

On mini setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY4-VHbJzNI&pp=ygUaV2lmaSBtaW5pIGV4dGVuZGVyIG5pZ2VyaWHSBwkJsgkBhyohjO8%3D