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Brenbentondiaz:
Was Jesus still fully Man and God in Revelations when He called God "My God" many times?

Emusan:
Jesus is still on His mission in heaven 1 Corin 15.

So, nothing wrong if Jesus is still using My God, Our God e.t.c

The great question should have been, what will be the identity of the person known as Jesus after His mission ended?

Emusan:
The funny thing is that, you know, Bible is in its literal form but I love this your angle.

Now, who decides what is literal or not in the Bible?



Very poor analogy.



Before the explanation, I hope you know Jesus came to earth for a mission which makes Him to be part of Creation.

Which means Bible speaks about when Jesus was never part of Creation and when Jesus became part of creation to teach us about God.



Yes! That was Jesus still under His mission



Godhead is the totality of God Himself.

Jesus isn't God because He to heaven in continuation of His mission but He is God before coming to earth as established in the scripture.

That human will share some attributes of God after resurrection doesn't mean human are fully God before.



The reason for that arrangement is simple, Christ came to reconnect man back to God which starts the whole process and after that the mission will be completed.

Read that 1 Corin 15 very and you'll see the angle Paul was addressing.

Paul starts from Son to Father and later switched to "...so that God will be ALL IN ALL"

why the sudden switch from Father to God and why must God be ALL IN ALL?



His Father gave Him the power for His mission.



No! The HOLY SPIRIT is the seven spirits not one of them.



I think anybody asked you this as this thread not about Jws.

Brenbentondiaz:
OK the Bible is literal.

So, when Jesus prayed for the apostles and his disciples to be one, He expected them to be a single person. I'm learning everyday.

By the way, I'm used to the off point mental gymnastics of your type. Like I always say, who wants to be lost will be lost.

Brenbentondiaz:
Lolz. Who sent Jesus on a mission; Himself?

You didn't read where He said He would grant the overcomer to sit on His thrown, as He also overcame and sits on His Father's thrones, right?

Brenbentondiaz:
You were caught manipulating scriptures, and you came with this? Lolz.

FxMasterz:
No need to argue with you. You left off all that was said in the opening thread to dwell on frivolities.

We'll, here's more for you:

Are there two Rocks?

God as the Rock

Deuteronomy 32:4 – “He is the Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He.”

Psalm 18:31 – “For who is God save the LORD? Or who is a Rock save our God?”
Christ as the Rock

1 Corinthians 10:4 – “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”

1 Peter 2:7-8 – “The stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, and a stone of stumbling, and a Rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word...”

Question: Are there two Rocks upholding Israel and the Church, or is this one eternal Rock revealed as both Yahweh and Christ?

Are there two Redeemers?

God as Redeemer
Isaiah 44:6 – “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Isaiah 49:26 – “And all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.”

Christ as Redeemer

Galatians 3:13 – “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us...”

Titus 2:13-14 – “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity...”

Revelation 5:9 – “...for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.”

Question: If Jehovah alone is the Redeemer, and Christ is also called our Redeemer, are there two redeemers—or is this one God who redeems in the person of the Son?

Janosky, gohf, truthseeker10

gohf:
Brenbentondiaz is right, you manipulate scriptures but nevertheless Boaz isn't he also a Redeemer according to the book of Ruth especially chapter 4. But does that make Boaz God or a God?

FxMasterz:
Who did Boaz redeem?

Leviticus 25 says a kinsman can redeem his kinsman. Boaz did that with cash. It's a custom in Israel according to the law. Boaz didn't redeem humanity. Jesus did. He did that without cash.

By the way, is it only the Redeemer side of the post that you have issues with? You need to raise issues with all the single items raised on all three threads to dismantle the Divnity of Christ.

Again, God and Christ are designated Redeemer, not Redeemers of mankind. Who then is Jesus?

gohf:
bro when I did that previously you ignored the post.

gohf:
too tired to respond piece by piece to what you wrote but so you believe that a mystery not a revelation, a mystery resolves some misunderstood you quoted?

Lol as if God did not appoint judges and raise up saviors and anoint kings 🤣😂

When did sharing a title mean there was another God besides God, even God apointing Moses to be God to Pharaoh did not make Moses God not a God but a representative of God.

Lol shared titles, na why them no call Jesus God repeatedly 🤣🤣, it's because God is not a title but a person YhVH ✌(◕‿-)✌

FxMasterz:
No need to argue with you. You left off all that was said in the opening thread to dwell on frivolities.

Well, here's more for you:

Are there two Rocks?

God as the Rock

Deuteronomy 32:4 – “He is the Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He.”

Psalm 18:31 – “For who is God save the LORD? Or who is a Rock save our God?”

Note: There's no other Rock except our God.

But we also see Christ as Rock. If we have on One Rock and not Rocks, who then is Christ? Another Rock?

Christ as the Rock

1 Corinthians 10:4 – “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”

1 Peter 2:7-8 – “The stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, and a stone of stumbling, and a Rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word...”

Question: Are there two Rocks upholding Israel and the Church, or is this one eternal Rock revealed as both Yahweh and Christ?

Are there two Redeemers?

God as Redeemer
Isaiah 44:6 – “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Isaiah 49:26 – “And all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.”

Christ as Redeemer

Galatians 3:13 – “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us...”

Titus 2:13-14 – “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity...”

Revelation 5:9 – “...for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.”

Question: If Jehovah alone is the Redeemer, and Christ is also called our Redeemer, are there two redeemers—or is this one God who redeems in the person of the Son?

Janosky, gohf, truthseeker10

Oga, you have two important question to answer.

John 3:16 & John 13:16,who sent Jesus Christ to redeem us?

John 13:16 has given the answer to your question,if you really believe Jesus Christ.

Janosky:
Oga, you have two important question to answer.

John 3:16 & John 13:16,who sent Jesus Christ to redeem us?

John 13:16 has given the answer to your question,if you really believe Jesus Christ.