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jpphilips:
During the Aburi Conference, Ojukwu accused the then IGP Salem of negligence, which led to the death of Igbos up North in a pogrom that claimed around 30,000 lives, a bitter precursor to the civil war.
In his Defence, the IGP placed the blame on NAP, the Northern Authority police, the then regional police in the North, according to Salem, the National police did all it could but the regional police continued with the killings, in other to forestall any re-occurance, Ojukwu proposed the centralization of the armed forces, something in practice till date, first implemented in the Decree 8 of 1967.

By centralizing the armed forces, the Federal police became the sole law enforcer in the land, ever since, there has not been a repeat of 1966 pogrom, fast forward today, our irresponsible and ignorant politicians for their selfish reasons want to return us to pre-1966, it wasnt just the igbo pogrom that suffered under NAP, in the western region, after the 1964 elections, Awolowo lost seat majority to Akintola who was backed by the federal might, on the other hand, Awolowo was backed by the WRNAP the then western regional police, this misgivings gave rise to two years of bitter clashes and killings that forced the central government to carve out the Mid-western region from the Western region, through out the short period we practiced Regional police, nothing good came out of it, why would someone in his right senses today think state police will solve any problem, despite our ethnic biases?

Every African country with tribal sentiments breaks apart as soon as they establish state police, the case of the Tigray region and South Sudan comes to mind, even if we can't learn from our own experience, why can't we learn from other people's experience?
Imagine a lagos state dominated by Yoruba state police, how do you expect an igbo man to get justice in Lagos under such arrangement? How do you expect igbos to feel safe when the Yoruba-dominated state police actors felt slighted that an igbo man has won a state or federal election in Lagos state?

A wise man once said, “The surest way to solve a crisis is never to create it.”
State police will be the final nail in the coffin of this nation.

san4P:
Thank you for reminding us...

History is good because it helps the wise not to repeat the mistakes of the predecessors... State police is a bad idea at a bad time...

For Nigeria to progress... it has to be one united people with one constitution...

ElSudani:
State police is a must in order to solve the protracted security problems in Nigeria.
It is completely asinine to think you will not get justice in a state other than your own with state police.
For decades people continue to parrot all kinds of theories without any proof that Nigeria is not ready for state police.
When exactly is Nigeria going to be ready? When our security is left in the hands of bandits?

Smartcitizen:
Most of you are too blind to see and that's why you people always end in regret every time.

This is how many of you were running their mouths when there was this argument for the creation of local government independent election commission and today, how well is that across all the states?

My only question for most of you championing this STATE POLICE CREATION is;


CAN YOU MENTION ANY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD PRACTICING STATE POLICE AND STATE GOVERNORS POSSESS IMMUNITY?

Just mention one country?

You think that white people are not intelligent.

jpphilips:
During the Aburi Conference, Ojukwu accused the then IGP Salem of negligence, which led to the death of Igbos up North in a pogrom that claimed around 30,000 lives, a bitter precursor to the civil war.
In his Defence, the IGP placed the blame on NAP, the Northern Authority police, the then regional police in the North, according to Salem, the National police did all it could but the regional police continued with the killings, in other to forestall any re-occurance, Ojukwu proposed the centralization of the armed forces, something in practice till date, first implemented in the Decree 8 of 1967.

By centralizing the armed forces, the Federal police became the sole law enforcer in the land, ever since, there has not been a repeat of 1966 pogrom, fast forward today, our irresponsible and ignorant politicians for their selfish reasons want to return us to pre-1966, it wasnt just the igbo pogrom that suffered under NAP, in the western region, after the 1964 elections, Awolowo lost seat majority to Akintola who was backed by the federal might, on the other hand, Awolowo was backed by the WRNAP the then western regional police, this misgivings gave rise to two years of bitter clashes and killings that forced the central government to carve out the Mid-western region from the Western region, through out the short period we practiced Regional police, nothing good came out of it, why would someone in his right senses today think state police will solve any problem, despite our ethnic biases?

Every African country with tribal sentiments breaks apart as soon as they establish state police, the case of the Tigray region and South Sudan comes to mind, even if we can't learn from our own experience, why can't we learn from other people's experience?
Imagine a lagos state dominated by Yoruba state police, how do you expect an igbo man to get justice in Lagos under such arrangement? How do you expect igbos to feel safe when the Yoruba-dominated state police actors felt slighted that an igbo man has won a state or federal election in Lagos state?

A wise man once said, “The surest way to solve a crisis is never to create it.”
State police will be the final nail in the coffin of this nation.

Dotherightthing:
I just knew peegs wills kick against state police because of fear of being kicked out of Lagos

State police can be established under a very tight framework that will prevent abuse.

The FG will takeover any state in crisis that the state police cannot handle.

alanto:
Its the fear of being kicked around. This one Nigeria pay some people pass others.

Ttalk:
There's no going back in this matte of state police, anyone that want to cry should cry

nairalanda1:
Good post

Also, let's be honest, most states won't be able to fund the state police properly

Take zamfara. They need a well equiped state police with special forces and even something approaching military level because banditry. Can they afford it?

Brenbentondiaz:
Why are deveropers always jittery about anything that will empower regions. They're the ones wailing they want autonomy, they're the ones kicking against any move for autonomy in any form. They hate one Nigeria, but they still want a centralized system. They wailed that Lagos VAT is because of companies having their HQs there. Govt proposed VAT to be paid at the point of sales, they wailed and kicked against it. Wailing at this point is their default mode.

nairalanda1:
Good post

Also, let's be honest, most states won't be able to fund the state police properly

Take zamfara. They need a well equiped state police with special forces and even something approaching military level because banditry. Can they afford it?

Guestmale:
As it's now security should be their utmost priority,the other time their governor was crying he knew the location of the bandits or terrorists through his phone but he couldn't do anything because the fg security on ground are awaiting order from Abuja before taking action.

jpphilips:
State police didnt guarantee our security in the 60's, it led to a war, it wont guarantee it today because the sectional issues of the 60's still live with us today.
You cant be hoping that a Volvo will fly. Most people making the state police proposal didnt live through the 60's or simply just pushing their selfish interest forward. The same security the Western region also hoped for?

Guestmale:
So because state police didn't work more 50 years ago won't work now,do we have the same scenario of 1960s in 2025. We knew what causes 1966 civil war not state police.

WizardOfNG:
Because they are covetous expansionist and land grabber always desperate to commandeer the asset, land, riches and political/public administration rulership over others anywhere they go , if allowed, be that Ghana, South Africa or SW Nigeria.

Meanwhile what they are always trying to gain in the land of others they will never let other sniff in their native SE.

@Topic.
State/regional policing is a must. We have a governance system that is the near mirror image of that of the USA that has hosted State policing from time immemorial.

Even the UK, with parliamentary system of governance, has County policing covering counties of the UK. Eg Metropolitan police (London), Essex police, Sussex police etc, etc, etc.

We cannot continue as things stand. Insecurity is too much and it is obvious this is so because our toxic ethnic difference and dislike of each other means the NPF will never perform optimally even if she has a million members.

jpphilips:
During the Aburi Conference, Ojukwu accused the then IGP Salem of negligence, which led to the death of Igbos up North in a pogrom that claimed around 30,000 lives, a bitter precursor to the civil war.
In his Defence, the IGP placed the blame on NAP, the Northern Authority police, the then regional police in the North, according to Salem, the National police did all it could but the regional police continued with the killings, in other to forestall any re-occurance, Ojukwu proposed the centralization of the armed forces, something in practice till date, first implemented in the Decree 8 of 1967.

By centralizing the armed forces, the Federal police became the sole law enforcer in the land, ever since, there has not been a repeat of 1966 pogrom, fast forward today, our irresponsible and ignorant politicians for their selfish reasons want to return us to pre-1966, it wasnt just the igbo pogrom that suffered under NAP, in the western region, after the 1964 elections, Awolowo lost seat majority to Akintola who was backed by the federal might, on the other hand, Awolowo was backed by the WRNAP the then western regional police, this misgivings gave rise to two years of bitter clashes and killings that forced the central government to carve out the Mid-western region from the Western region, through out the short period we practiced Regional police, nothing good came out of it, why would someone in his right senses today think state police will solve any problem, despite our ethnic biases?

Every African country with tribal sentiments breaks apart as soon as they establish state police, the case of the Tigray region and South Sudan comes to mind, even if we can't learn from our own experience, why can't we learn from other people's experience?
Imagine a lagos state dominated by Yoruba state police, how do you expect an igbo man to get justice in Lagos under such arrangement? How do you expect igbos to feel safe when the Yoruba-dominated state police actors felt slighted that an igbo man has won a state or federal election in Lagos state?

A wise man once said, “The surest way to solve a crisis is never to create it.”
State police will be the final nail in the coffin of this nation.

jpphilips:
The problem with most of you is a lack of basic comprehension skills. If you had any comprehension ability, you would notice that tribalism is the crux of the matter. Do you have tribalism in the UK? So why on earth would you read my post and respond with the UK? Every police formation in the UK reports to a police chief constable in London, whether it's the Metropolitan Police Service (London), Greater Manchester Police, or West Midlands Police. All of them report to London, the same way your state commands report to Abuja.
Its not just about counting vehicles in London after leaving your sense in Nigeria, UK practice a type of centralized police structure, like Nigeria.