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I have seen tribalists here calling someone a racist... What a confusion!

humberjade:
The guy was very conflicted and controversial. Irrespective of how anyone felt about him, no one deserves to go the way he went. While his stand on Wokiness makes some sense to me, his other beliefs make little sense to me. Let's not even talk about his racism and disdain for immigrants now.

Two of the topics that baffles me about his rhetorics are abortion and indiscriminate ownership and usage of guns.

Kirk saw the use of contraceptives by multitude as genocide. Dude didn't care if a woman was r*aped or having complications from pregnancy that warrants the early termination of the fetus to save the mother's life, his firm stand was that, in no circumstance should an abortion should take place. Let's say we somehow agree with him on this, sanctity of life of innocent babies.

Now, this same guy promotes indiscrinate gun ownership, indifferent to mass school shootings of kids, he said one time on the topic that, “I think it’s worth it — I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment…” (said at a Turning Point event in April 2023).

How can you oppose abortion and support gun violence. Seems to me that to him and his likes, it is better to allow babies to come of age in order to be ripe enough as practice shooting targets.

Funny enough, the same people that were mocking the shooting of a Democrat and her husband are now fuming now that it is close to home.

Never turn a blind eye or be indifferent to any societal evil that afflicts your perceived foes, it might come back to bite you too in the behind.

Na una wey sabi quote people out of context to fit your narrative

bakynes:
You dont know what you are saying, someone that believe Black people were better when they had no civil rights and were been subjugated and segregated.

You see, that's why you need to listen to the source and not the noise or rumours. He was speaking about the fatherlessness in the black community. In those days, 80% of black kids grew up without a dad at home. Today, that number is only 20%. If you as a black choose to be angry with Krik and not alarmed that the average black in America is a useless dad, then, you are unserious.
Guess what, by some stats, blacks are the only group that have not reduced poverty since the time of segregation. So yes, Krik is right. The black community has not improved itself since the time of segregation and it is a shame that you need a white man to teach you that.

agabaI23:
I follow him on X. Those who malign him do so because:
1. he supports Israel and he doesn't hide it.
2. He knows the agenda of Islam and exposes it so they say he is extremists.
3. He is against trangender and all the wokeism going with LGBTQ and they say he is homophobic
4. He is a Christian and he doesn't hide it and call him intolerant.

How does he impact? He debates with students and wins with facts. Young man is brilliant

May his soul rest in peace. May God console his family.

Brilliant ke? Cambridge and Oxford students mopped him off the floor in debates. Same guy who said a dolphin foetus was a human foetus.

Vacora:
Brilliant ke? Cambridge and Oxford students mopped him off the floor in debates. Same guy who said a dolphin foetus was a human foetus.

The information I had about the debate in England which I have recalled is that he whooped them. I didn't watch the interaction.

jesusjnr2020:
Don't think I have heard about Charlie Kirk prior to his death, however from all I've since seen and heard of him seen afterwards, although opinions about him were divided, it's beyond glaring the young man impacted many young lives, especially americans, for the better and this is just one of them.

He may have had his own flaws, but that aspect of his life which transformed many lives for the better is one which I believe ought to be emulated and highly recommend.

His life impacted many lives positively, but I hope his death inspires even more.

May God strengthen his family and grant them the fortitude to bear his loss. In Jesus name. 🙏

Been following the guy for about 3 years now and I can boldly say he lived well. Those who hate him are mostly those with skewed perspective about life and morality.

CoronaVirusPro:
If you want to have a good first hand interpretation of who he really happens to be, just go through his twitter and watch his YouTube.

Please comeback here to tell me about what you think of him.

Kirk is a wonderful guy. Nearly everything he says, if you read in the context, is spot on. I'd like you to tell me some of what Charlie says that you think are terrible

Commentor:
He was racist.

He knew he was causing such disaffection, he wore a bulletproof vest when he was in public.

Lolz. You can't show 1 clip where he's clearly a racist. He's first American and if he decides to prioritise Americans within the confines of the law then he's right.

Nothing about nigga is racist.

Commentor:
You cannot pull yourself out of being transgender just by someone saying stuff.

Make una dey deceive unaself.

But you can pull yourself into being transgender cause of people's opinions and convictions... Mtchewwww

justli:
Kirk is a wonderful guy. Nearly everything he says, if you read in the context, is spot on. I'd like you to tell me some of what Charlie says that you think are terrible

If you are comfortable with all he said, then you should be good.

At least, the second amendment is protected now.

agabaI23:
Cambridge and Oxford? I didn't know he went to England.

He did and they wiped the floor with him. I have been following him in debating circles for a number of years and he is not well schooled in the art of debating. Don't rely on videos posted by far right supporters or bots, just do a deep dive of all his debates.

This is the same guy who said if it is a black pilot and he is on the plane, he will question if the pilot is actually qualified to fly the plane.

jesusjnr2020:
Don't think I have heard about Charlie Kirk prior to his death, however from all I've since seen and heard of him seen afterwards, although opinions about him were divided, it's beyond glaring the young man impacted many young lives, especially americans, for the better and this is just one of them.

He may have had his own flaws, but that aspect of his life which transformed many lives for the better is one which I believe ought to be emulated and highly recommend.

His life impacted many lives positively, but I hope his death inspires even more.

May God strengthen his family and grant them the fortitude to bear his loss. In Jesus name. 🙏

He is a wonderful guy. The left just hate truth and would vilify anyone bold enough to speak it. The entire LGBT gang and their woke supporters hate him because, well, he said a man can't magically become a woman because they got operated on.

The blacks too, their marriage of convince with the democrats party, also hate the truth. Telling the blacks that thug life , gang life, pop culture, and now love for giving birth to bastards or even intentionally kicking out the men while depriving the children of healthy development is the prime reason they're backward and not racism. They will hate you for pointing out the fact.

Everybody wants to be a victim and never accountable for anything. Not even how they live their own life.

Charlie has done his part and he was a blessing to many

Commentor:
That racist POS had no spiritual power

You must be patting yourself on the back right over this gibberish you spewed

CoronaVirusPro:
If you are comfortable with all he said, then you should be good.

At least, the second amendment is protected now.

I'm comfortable with all I've heard him say. The second amendment was enshrined in the constitution by the founding fathers. They know very well they'll be cases of sociopaths who go out of their way to do things like these. But that was a necessary price to pay for a greater good (freedom). This was the point Charlie was making but you all like to run with your "gotcha" moments.

If the Benue people and local farmers living in the North are allowed to have arms, no bandit will ransack and burn down their home like they currently do. Even with our extreme gun control laws, thousands more die everyday on average in Nigeria than America.

Helinuse:
Imagine a “free Palestine” opening calling someone else a manipulator. 🤣🤣🤣

The same way they say what hamas did on Oct 7 was “resistance” and Israel’s response was gCide. And then claimed that it was Israel who did Oct 7 when Hamas themselves filmed themselves while doing it.

You want me to take y ou serious about the word “manipulator?”

stop jumping aimlessly about, you keep quoting things I never said, told u to produce evidence to dispute the things I said, u couldn't.....instead ,u dey go here ,dey go there...another delusion and manipulator signs 🥱

jesusjnr2020:
Don't think I have heard about Charlie Kirk prior to his death, however from all I've since seen and heard of him seen afterwards, although opinions about him were divided, it's beyond glaring the young man impacted many young lives, especially americans, for the better and this is just one of them.

He may have had his own flaws, but that aspect of his life which transformed many lives for the better is one which I believe ought to be emulated and highly recommend.

His life impacted many lives positively, but I hope his death inspires even more.

May God strengthen his family and grant them the fortitude to bear his loss. In Jesus name. 🙏

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Charlie Kirk was one of the very vocal anti-LGBT (especially anti-transgender) commentator in america along with Ben Shapiro, Candace Owen, Matt Walsh amongst others.

Along with these names, Kirk was a nightmare to transgender wokeism. He paid for it with his life.

Dave chappelle almost got the sane treatment

Tolupage:
Lolz. You can't show 1 clip where he's clearly a racist. He's first American and if he decides to prioritise Americans within the confines of the law then he's right.

Nothing about nigga is racist.

What makes someone racist?

If a man hates another race he is racist.

Kirk would not care if you were pew pewed.

Neither should you.

Can you imagine I have read post of tribal bigots,jihadist in here condemning this man and calling him a racist....comments from people that don't condemn the daily killings ongoing in Nigeria.

Commentor:
What makes someone racist?

If a man hates another race he is racist.

Kirk would not care if you were pew pewed.

Neither should you.

He never hated another race uncle, I see you're one of the many who inherited hatred for the guy without having a heard any of his full clip.

Maybe you should go listen to the full podcast the one you're trying to quote.

He argued the use of gun in the USA is not originally for self defense against fellow Americans but for defense against tyrannical government who'd like to enslave it's citizens and that's why he wouldn't support the govt trying to take away people's right to own a gun.

He acknowledged the rise gun violence but proposed better security in schools and public places as a better solution than retrieving people's gun.

Tolupage:
He never hated another race uncle, I see you're one of the many who inherited hatred for the guy without having a heard any of his full clip.

Maybe you should go listen to the full podcast the one you're trying to quote.

He argued the use of gun in the USA is not originally for self defense against fellow Americans but for defense against tyrannical government who'd like to enslave it's citizens and that's why he wouldn't support the govt trying to take away people's right to own a gun.

He acknowledged the rise gun violence but proposed better security in schools and public places as a better solution than retrieving people's gun.

Why did the POS say he would be worried about a pilot if he was black?

I'm sure that's ok to you.

lexy2014:
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Charlie Kirk was one of the very vocal anti-LGBT (especially anti-transgender) commentator in america along with Ben Shapiro, Candace Owen, Matt Walsh amongst others.

Along with these names, Kirk was a nightmare to transgender wokeism. He paid for it with his life.

Dave chappelle almost got the sane treatment

Candace Owen would be taught a lesson by the Macrons.

justli:
He is a wonderful guy. The left just hate truth and would vilify anyone bold enough to speak it. The entire LGBT gang and their woke supporters hate him because, well, he said a man can't magically become a woman because they got operated on.

The blacks too, their marriage of convince with the democrats party, also hate the truth. Telling the blacks that thug life , gang life, pop culture, and now love for giving birth to bastards or even intentionally kicking out the men while depriving the children of healthy development is the prime reason they're backward and not racism. They will hate you for pointing out the fact.

Everybody wants to be a victim and never accountable for anything. Not even how they live their own life.

Charlie has done his part and he was a blessing to many

Most mass shooters are white.

Why didn't he try to handle the issue plauging his community?

Same issue led to his demise.

PotatoSalad:
Na una wey sabi quote people out of context to fit your narrative

Oga, go and watch videos of his debates and speeches. Go and watch his comments on George Floyd, how he was trying to gaslight people into believing things contrary to how it played out in the full glare of the global audience. I agree with on few topics, but totally appalled by his stands on most. One of those using religion to preach violence and disunity, directly or indirectly.

Feldie:
not just that, the boy was trained by his parents to shoot guns since he was 12 years old. Why exactly would you train a 12 years old to kill? He's been shooting guns for over 10 years that's why he was able to shoot someone in the throat from 200 meters away. Why exactly would you train your child like that? The entire family pics on the internet is them posing with guns. That's all white Americans Republicans are obsessed with, guns

As soon as tbr incident occurred, we knew it couldn't be a boy raised in Oregun, maybe Oregon.

tctrills:
You see, that's why you need to listen to the source and not the noise or rumours. He was speaking about the fatherlessness in the black community. In those days, 80% of black kids grew up without a dad at home. Today, that number is only 20%. If you as a black choose to be angry with Krik and not alarmed that the average black in America is a useless dad, then, you are unserious.
Guess what, by some stats, blacks are the only group that have not reduced poverty since the time of segregation. So yes, Krik is right. The black community has not improved itself since the time of segregation and it is a shame that you need a white man to teach you that.

Therefore civil rights should be taken from blacks?

You see say you no get point.

It is hard to criticise without being judgemental when it comes to Charlie Kirk. He was very controversial with his opinions and worldview. Yes, he claims to be a follower of Christ, but what can you say about his tacit support for gun violence. His dislike for anyone who does not carry his flag? He was divisive with his opinions and simply using the name of Christ as a tag to draw follower ship and control the narrative. The bible clearly states that he who kill with the sword shall die by the same. He may not have killed anyone with his own hands, but by verbally and tacitly supporting the indiscriminate ownership of the same weapon ties him with murder.

I agree with him on his opinion about homosexuality, but you cannot deliver these people by hating or threatening them. It has to be done with Love and patience. It has to be done by building strong foundations and structures that prevents others from falling into the same sin and protecting ourselves from being entangled.

Now that he is dead, I fear for his children when they get older due to the kind of people that surrounds them. They may think it is love and security, but if they are not trained properly in the way of Christ, they may have a poisoned and false image or understanding of Christ's demand and expectations. Their worldview and perception, or opinion about everything or everyone is very exposed to false doctrines which may make them follow in the steps of their father

Commentor:
Why did the POS say he would be worried about a pilot if he was black?

I'm sure that's ok to you.

I said it!!! You are one of those who inherited hate for him or never listened to his full clips.

The arguement was on DEI, and he asked which matters more to the person asking the question... A qualified pilot or a black pilot.

Kirk further asserted he doesn't care if he's white or black as long as the pilot is qualified.

Have you seen what rubbish happens in the NGO space because of DEI? 2 people justling for job and yet they pick the lady not because she's more qualified or as qualified, but because they need to fill the DEI quota... This inevitably breeds incompetence in the workplace

Now the argument is not to descriminate or anything, he said if the black is qualified then that's good but don't give jobs to people because the belong to certain race or colour, do it based on merit

Commentor:
Therefore civil rights should be taken from blacks?

You see say you no get point.

Are you confused? Neither I nor Krik ever suggested that civil rights should be taken away. You are just a fault-finder, but it's ok.