₦airaland Forum

phemray:
Was Tinubu the commander in chief then?

That is the reason leaders like Jonathan and Obi are not real leader because they are weak and don't have clue to the policies they wanted to implement. Why did they reverted back if they are sure of what they are doing or did they expect Nigeria not to protest it?

When Tinubu implemented it, was it not protested across the nation? even having assured Nigerians that he will remove it if he won? But am confident that if that strike goes for one year Tinubu will not revert because he knows its the best policy for this nation at this time. Painful but, Now we gradually getting used to the effects and moving forward.

Chai you are not a sincere person. How did people protest the subsidy removal under Tinubu and compare it with occupy Nigeria in 2012 that was sponsored by Tinubu against Jonathan considering that Arab spring happened a year earlier and the effect were still being felt in the middle east.

Didijiji:
GEJ Dey make una shit for pant

Karma will be complete when GEJ is recrowned in 2027.

It only went on a mission to deal with all who ganged up against him led by SW political and religious leaders on 2012 including the media

He can only deal with himself and his cronies! Has he entered as president? Make he enter first na!

Believeintruth:
Chai you are not a sincere person. How did people protest the subsidy removal under Tinubu and compare it with occupy Nigeria in 2012 that was sponsored by Tinubu against Jonathan considering that Arab spring happened a year earlier and the effect were still being felt in the middle east.

Protest is protest it depends on how the c- in- c is able to handle it. Jonathan even agreed on TV that he didn't consult well then.

phemray:
Protest is protest it depends on how the c- in- c is able to handle it. Jonathan even agreed on TV that he didn't consult well then.

Guy are you for real? At the time of the protest we had Greece that was boiling and the middle east that was already on fire following Arab spring. Did you think GEJ would allow it, already at that time Tinubu was referencing the Arab spring that was why it was called Occupy Nigeria protest then.

Why are they now suddenly scared and sensitising people against having a Nepal situation in Nigeria when they wanted an Arab spring in Nigerian then?

seunmsg:
He also said subsidising fuel was never sustainable and the country would have been bankrupt by now if President Bola Tinubu didn’t remove it.

He also said removing the subsidy in 2012 would have saved the economy and we would not be where we are today. But Bola Tinubu orchestrated the protests that blocked the removal then, saying there was nothing like subsidy.

Believeintruth:
Guy are you for real? At the time of the protest we had Greece that was boiling and the middle east that was already on fire following Arab spring. Did you think GEJ would allow it, already at that time Tinubu was referencing the Arab spring that was why it was called Occupy Nigeria protest then.

Why are they now suddenly scared and sensitising people against having a Nepal situation in Nigeria when they wanted an Arab spring in Nigerian then?

Because they're hypocrites

seunmsg:
He also said subsidising fuel was never sustainable and the country would have been bankrupt by now if President Bola Tinubu didn’t remove it.

The same subsidy that Tinubu resisted in 2012? Now that he has completed removed it, can we know what the money is being used for?

jmoore:
Tinubu and his men sponsored occupy Nigeria which fought against subsidy removal.

Bro, only losers and weak men live and drown in their losses in the past to then fail to move beyond them.

Tinubu protested against fuel subsidy removal under GEJ with the insistence palliatives should be in place before Jonathan went ahead.

Progressive people, as your sort are obsessed with doing, won't belabour the fact that Tinubu, a politician who wants power for his camp as all politicians fundamentally desire and got into politics for, commited himself to highlighting the failings of GEJ so his opposition Party can remove PDP and lead Nigeria.

Nothing Personal because wise and successful men know the rule of "don't hate the player, hate the game".

It is no different to the battle between BMW and Mercede or USA and China. Barcelona and Madrid. Etc. No bitching or complaining. Winner takes all.

That is how it is worldwide. Keir Stammer,Trump and other leaders worldwide are feeling that obsession of the opposition to discredit them currently. It is only in Nigeria, because of people like you, the polity see opposition politics as "betrayal" etc.

Same way your forefathers irresponsibly caused a civil war, when war is battle to the death till winner emerge , yet you blame Yorubas for your loss and fatalities till today rather than accept your irresponsible grandfathers led you into war they were not ready to accept the consequences of.

Proper, progressive, brave and upright men accept it when others better them. They don't complain and bitch forever. Rather, they learn lessons to perhaps win a rematch.

It is for GEJ, if a truly talent and natural leader in the mould of Awolowo and Nkrumah etal, to lead with bravery, resolve and strategic intelligence,as Tinubu is doing today, so he can dominate his enemies and opposition.

You see Yorubas crying , daily and everywhere, that you Igbos and North are ganging up against Tinubu and deliberately tainting his Presidency in negativity? No. That is because we know you have to do your thing while confident Tinubu is talented enough to conquer his enemies.

If you, his haters, succeed to remove him from power, which is impossible in my opinion, you will never see Yorubas crying forever as you lot do over GEJ who left office 10 years ago.

Unlike you guys, pragmatically intelligent and critical-thinking Yorubas will move on quickly because emotional intelligence allows us to understand the nature of politics

Unlike you hypocritical lot whose preference is seeing "betrayal" instead of understanding, if progressive winners, that GEJ was an accidental leader placed far above his station and capacity. If Tinubu loses in 2027, Yorubas will learn lessons, change strategy, and move on. 💯 % predictable and assured behaviour of a progressive people with the view "forward always , backwards never".

Tinubu is not a accidental and "lucky" leader like Goodluck Jonathan. PBAT, even as you people will never admit it, was born to do what he is doing as Alli was born to be a supreme and exemplary boxer and as Messi/Pele/Ronaldo etal were gifted to be some of the greatest footballers ever.

True, the solution to Nigerians bad leadership is learning more collaboration and cooperation from neighbor countries in West Africa.

Skeyskey:
A tree.

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jmoore:
Tinubu and his men sponsored occupy Nigeria which fought against subsidy removal.

You dey mind those hypocritical APC people dem?

phemray:
Was Tinubu the commander in chief then?

That is the reason leaders like Jonathan and Obi are not real leader because they are weak and don't have clue to the policies they wanted to implement. Why did they reverted back if they are sure of what they are doing or did they expect Nigeria not to protest it?

When Tinubu implemented it, was it not protested across the nation? even having assured Nigerians that he will remove it if he won? But am confident that if that strike goes for one year Tinubu will not revert because he knows its the best policy for this nation at this time. Painful but, Now we gradually getting used to the effects and moving forward.

Your last sentence shows how truly hypocritical you APC lots are. The point is why did Tinubu support its removal while he was in the opposition and implemented its removal when he came into government?

Like Tinubu, just lousy but nothing to offer Nigerians but pains n sufferings

Racoon:
Especially the bolded. Emir Lamido Sanusi Lamido can only continue to deceive the gullible.

you forgot to mention Oceanic Bank.

MemphitzDgreat1:
Your last sentence shows how truly hypocritical you APC lots are. The point is why did Tinubu support its removal while he was in the opposition and implemented its removal when he came into government?

Bcoz he was bold and courageous.

In 2012, Nigeria was servicing its debt with 42% of its revenue.

However, in 2023 when Tinubu came, Nigeria was spending 97% of its revenue to service Debt and its now left with 3% to run its activities.

So Tinubu felt it was not acceptable and subsidy had to be removed.

Don't forget that Buhari had been printing money every month to pay salaries and meet up with other runnings of the country.

So, Tinubu felt it was time to belt the cat.

helinues:
But the current story is saying otherwise. Nigeria has been in the right direction with president Tinubu

Lol... Tinubu is the worst of them all by miles

okpouman:
Sensible person is asking the youths to arise and takeover leadership from the old ones but the same youths would say it's not about age,they would be saying yahaya Bello nko.

May dey dey swegbe for there

Is Yahaya Bello and Beta Edu, Hell Rufai son not youths?

The issue is that we Nigerians glamourise assets and wealth as a measure of life achievement.

Until we emphasized materialism , the present and coming generation can never make a difference.

seunmsg:
He also said subsidising fuel was never sustainable and the country would have been bankrupt by now if President Bola Tinubu didn’t remove it.

He further said, "He also warned that the rate at which governments in the country borrow money and squander it will have negative effect on the country’s economy in years to come."

phemray:
Was Tinubu the commander in chief then?

That is the reason leaders like Jonathan and Obi are not real leader because they are weak and don't have clue to the policies they wanted to implement. Why did they reverted back if they are sure of what they are doing or did they expect Nigeria not to protest it?

When Tinubu implemented it, was it not protested across the nation? even having assured Nigerians that he will remove it if he won? But am confident that if that strike goes for one year Tinubu will not revert because he knows its the best policy for this nation at this time. Painful but, Now we gradually getting used to the effects and moving forward.

, you ran to the streets in 2012, shouting no to subsidy removal because of the two plates of ewedu and Amala soup bought by Tinubu, Tunde Bakare, Soyinka and co when a liter of fuel was N97.
Now you have no strength to hit any street now that a liter of fuel has gone to N900!
If Jonathan and Obi can't be leaders l wonder were you would place the late Buhari whom you all supported twice!

Tareq1105:
Bcoz he was bold and courageous.

In 2012, Nigeria was servicing its debt with 42% of its revenue.

However, in 2023 when Tinubu came, Nigeria was spending 97% of its revenue to service Debt and its now left with 3% to run its activities.

So Tinubu felt it was not acceptable and subsidy had to be removed.

Don't forget that Buhari had been printing money every month to pay salaries and meet up with other runnings of the country.

So, Tinubu felt it was time to belt the cat.

Senseless and silly analysis. Everything he fought or kicked against when he was in opposition he is done tripled. He is a con man . Tinubu is a big scam and a hypocritical being.

This is some tough truth to stomach...

okpouman:
Sensible person is asking the youths to arise and takeover leadership from the old ones but the same youths would say it's not about age,they would be saying yahaya Bello nko.

May dey dey swegbe for there

Wisdom and knowledge with leadership skills is not about age at all. No research has ever shown age as an important factor in good leadership.

Nobody is talking about religious extremism that has consumed the North.
Their problem is the Fuel that they dont have access to.

iwaeda:
https://dailytrust.com/sanusi-nigeria-has-been-unfortunate-with-lousy-leaders-for-long/

What were you like leading at the banks, cbn and emirate you served previously as a leader. Workplace sexual predator. High handed and hypocritical. Religious bigot. Your horrible and incendiary write ups are still there on the internet. Apologise for your misdeeds first before you attempt to sermonise.

okpouman:
Sensible person is asking the youths to arise and takeover leadership from the old ones but the same youths would say it's not about age,they would be saying yahaya Bello nko.

May dey dey swegbe for there

Ar you not a youth
who hold you from running

Amarachieze:
Subsidy removal has not helped the ordinary Nigerians in any way; Those benefiting are the ruling class. The country may not be bankrupt now but the masses are. It was the corruption during subsidy regime that would have bankrupt the nation not subsidy and corruption has even increased. We merely sold our dog and bought a monkey so what's the difference.

You're correct, subsidy on its own was not really the problem infact it's still remain the only thing every ordinary citizens benefited from the government but the corruption and fraudulent practices during subsidy regime couple with unpatriotic acts of many Nigerians in collaborations with our border securities too who chooses to smuggled out the already subsidized products out of the country to the neighboring countries.

Sundaymessi:
, you ran to the streets in 2012, shouting no to subsidy removal because of the two plates of ewedu and Amala soup bought by Tinubu, Tunde Bakare, Soyinka and co when a liter of fuel was N97.
Now you have no strength to hit any street now that a liter of fuel has gone to N900!
If Jonathan and Obi can't be leaders l wonder were you would place the late Buhari whom you all supported twice!

The protest against the subsidies removal at time could be justified because Nigeria was making a lot of money but Nigerians couldn't see what was being used for. Dasuki gates and Diziane comes to mind

Dasukigate refers to a massive financial scandal involving the alleged embezzlement of $2 billion meant for arms procurement to fight Boko Haram insurgency in Nigeria during the Goodluck Jonathan administration. The scandal centers around Colonel Sambo Dasuki, who served as Nigeria's National Security Adviser (NSA) from 2012 to 2015.

Alison-Madueke petroleum resources minister during former president Goodluck regime faces allegations of corruption and financial misconduct, including accusations of diverting billions of dollars and money laundering. She's currently residing in the UK, where she's facing charges related to bribery and corruption. The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) of Nigeria is collaborating with UK prosecutors on her case