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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 6:53am On Sep 15, 2025 |
In Paris, a free fried chicken giveaway ended in a fight. A French blogger who organized the event through social media was forced to stop it due to police intervention. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 6:54am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Allthelight:Yes ... They have been doing that... NATO is fighting indirectly in Ukraine and Russian has been dealing with them |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 7:00am On Sep 15, 2025 |
ariesbull:you guys and your propagandas... You do know even Iran was not able to deal with atleast 50 F16s and F35 in their airspace right ? How many F16s does Ukraine have compared to NATO |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 7:09am On Sep 15, 2025*. Modified: 10:37am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Allthelight:who is talking about Iran...did you smoke Gwuzoro? Hereâs a detailed summary of how NATO (and its member states) have been supporting / fighting Russia indirectly via Ukraine, with evidence. What does âindirect fightingâ mean in this context By âindirect,â I mean actions short of NATO troops directly engaging Russian forces (no boots of NATO member militaries in large combat roles inside Russia), but involving: Military aid (weapons, equipment) supplied to Ukraine Intelligence sharing Training, strategic and tactical support Logistical, financial, diplomatic support Coordination of allied efforts --- Evidence of NATOâs indirect role Here are well-documented instances and sources showing how NATO (and NATO states) are involved in helping Ukraine in ways that affect the fighting: 1. Military Aid / Weapons & Equipment NATO member countries have supplied many advanced weapons to Ukraine: Examples include self-propelled artillery systems with 155 mm shells (which is NATO standard), such as the M109, AS90, CAESAR, PzH2000, Krab, Zuzana 24, Archer. More than 150 of such systems have been delivered. Also long-range missiles: Ukraine has gotten ATACMS missiles from the U.S., and the UK/France have supplied Storm Shadow / Scalp missiles, usable for striking into Russian territory. Anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons: Many NATO states have sent large numbers of anti-tank systems, anti-aircraft weapons etc. 2. Intelligence Sharing NATO partners, especially the U.S., have shared more intelligence with Ukraine than at most times in recent history, per reports by NATO officials. This includes targeting data, analysis of Russian troop movements, etc., which Ukraine uses to plan operations. (There are constraints / pauses in some sharing depending on policy changes). 3. Training, Strategic & Tactical Support NATO has coordinated training programs for Ukrainian forces. There is a plan to better coordinate âsecurity assistance and training for Ukraine,â with bases or command elements located in NATO facilities (e.g. in Wiesbaden, Germany) and logistical nodes in the eastern part of the Alliance. The JALLC-UKR Initiative (Joint Analysis Lessons Learned Centre - Ukraine) is NATOâs set-up to help Ukraine develop âlessons learnedâ capacities, provide analysis, and share best practices. A new NATO-Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Centre (JATEC), inaugurated in 2025, to institutionalize cooperation in training, adapting to Ukraineâs operational realities. 4. Logistics, Coordination, Diplomatic Support NATO states have coordinated how weapons, supplies, aid get to Ukraine. The plan agreed in mid-2024 for coordination of security assistance is part of this. Diplomatic pressure, sanctions on Russia, forums support (e.g. international bodies) also form part of the indirect strategy. These donât always cause immediate battlefield effects but help constrain Russiaâs diplomatic/military options. 5. Russiaâs own Claims Russiaâs government has repeatedly accused NATO and the U.S. of being âindirect partiesâ to the conflict, because Western countries are supplying weapons, technologies, intelligence, etc. Even though these are accusations from one side, they show that Russia itself considers the role of NATO states significant. How strong is the evidence, and what is less certain While there is strong evidence for many of these forms of support, some items are less well documented or remain contested: Exactly how much intelligence is being shared, which specific operations it enables, and how directly those operations are linked to NATO commands vs Ukraineâs own decision-making is often classified. The degree to which NATO as a formal bloc is commanding or controlling military operations of Ukraine is much less: Ukraine retains its sovereignty in strategic/tactical decisions. Some accusations (from Russia or its media) such as NATO âhelping plan invasions into Russia,â or using Ukraine as a proxy in all respects, are not always substantiated by open, verifiable evidence. For example, claims that NATO âhelped Ukraine plot Kursk invasionâ have been published in some media, but often rely on Russian or pro-Russian sources. There is also debate / reporting about how efficiently the weapons are used, whether some are wasted, whether training is sufficient, etc. But the existence of the weapons and support is well established. Putting this all together: NATO has been fighting Russia indirectly via Ukraine primarily by equipping, training, and supporting Ukraine, not by direct military intervention. The nature of that support has progressively included more advanced weapons systems, more coordination, and more institutional structures (training, intelligence sharing, lessons learned). This indirect involvement has had real impact on the conflict dynamics â enabling Ukraine to defend territory, conduct counteroffensives, strike Russian infrastructure etc. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 7:29am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Allthelight:Russia is currently doing so and besides Nuke is a weapon not a decoration.. Can the whole 32 NATO countries take on Russia, China and North Korea ? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 7:51am On Sep 15, 2025 |
âĄTrump: Europe is buying oil from Russia. I donât want them buying oil â and the sanctions they impose are not tough enough. I am willing to impose sanctions, but they must toughen theirs in line with what Iâm doing.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 7:52am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Allthelight:Silly question. 32 countries against 1. The right question should be: Can NATO take on Russia, China & India without nukes? Still seems unbalanced. 32 against 3. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 7:58am On Sep 15, 2025 |
dvkot:the thing always dey surprise me when I hear can I Russia defeat NATO without nukes. As in what are the nuks meant for do we think that Russia just spent so much money to build large collection of nukes without any intention or aim of using them,then why build them. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:05am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Watcharena:How can NATO a 32 member country afraid of one nation Russia It means Russia, China and North Korea can defeat the NATO in just 2 days |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 8:09am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:I have no hate for Israel and I believe isreal is here to stay however, Europeans aren't Israelites. That is called settler colonialism and its the reason why Israel is hated by many. It is funny how western countries believe so such in humanity that they deny countries like Nigeria and others access to weapon they desperately needed to fight terrorism but gives the zionist entity top tech weapons to murder civilians in their thousands with impunity. I do not hate the zionist entity, I hate what the zionist entity do to people. No logical human being would support what zionism has done to the world within 100 years of its existence. You are arguing from a religious standpoint and arguing with you on this subject matter will be tantamount to pouring water into a colander. Have a nice day |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:12am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Look. Ukraine is on an umbilical cord through Poland and Romania. Ukraine will be defeated by russia within a couple of months of those countries clip the cord. It's not a threat. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:14am On Sep 15, 2025 |
It is Zelenskyâs mess and championed by Biden/NATO. Zelensky was elected to reach a peace deal with Russia. Instead he let US/NATO send him billions in military aid and convince him Ukraine would win. The West wanted Russia defeated and used Ukraine; a whole generation now gone |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:16am On Sep 15, 2025 |
In 3 months Ukraine will accept the peace deal set by Putin. 3 cities remain to be taken: Kramatorsk, Sloviansk, Kostantinovka. Just the idiots may think Russia will be defeated. Antonio Jorio |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:18am On Sep 15, 2025 |
The Russians haven't just defeated Ukraine, they've completely demilitarised NATO. There's not a Patriot missiles or 6" shell to be found anywhere. Who has hypersonic missiles.... a. Russia b. NATO Jim Reaper |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:03am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Watcharena:are you minding them |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:07am On Sep 15, 2025 |
WriterrNg:Good..oga make your money, completely turn Europe to a vessel state. And remember they must buy your expensive weapons and gas.. After all it's more profitable to sell the fear of Russia than it is to fight them. Just imagine you for once let's say Russia is defeated completely and broken into several small states that possess no more threats to Europe, how them will US sell more weapons to Europe? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:14am On Sep 15, 2025 |
âĄRussia's Medvedev: The idea pushed by Kyiv and others to create a âno-fly zone over âUkraineââ and let NATO shoot down our drones would mean only one thing â war between NATO and Russia.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:54am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Fash20:I don't think or argue or reason from a religious standpoint Am the most clear headed individual on earth and I think outside the box Refusing the law or ignorance of the law is not an excuse when you commit crime So what makes you feel refusing to accept that supernatural forces controls this earth will give you comfort and you are actually trying to cajole me to stop seeing things both from the spiritual side and you want me to only see from the physical side You want me to be like you to see it only from the physical side Because if you really come to my side and start to see human life from the spiritual side You will indeed bow to the God of Israel God makes no apology he told us that non of us elected him to become God and it is him that elected whom ever he wants and likes He even gave us an example that when Jacob and his twin brother were in the belly of their mom That he chose Jacob even when non of them have ever done anything good or bad... So he said he is the one who chooses and who elects.. Who are we to question his choice WHO WHO WHO We are nothing we are just tools in his hand so you have one choice accept him as he is and acknowledge he is the almighty. Peace |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by olutund(m): 10:02am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:the most clear headed on earth, and believing supernatural forces control earth, should not be in the same sentence |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 10:20am On Sep 15, 2025 |
âĄRussiaâs Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) claims the European Union is preparing a âSerbian Maidan.â
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:25am On Sep 15, 2025 |
olutund:It should be unless you believe the big bang created you and you came from nothing |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Rilwayne001: 10:25am On Sep 15, 2025 |
olutund:Dude is delusional |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:03am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Another new be that thinks abusing people will make him look tough oops |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:19am On Sep 15, 2025 |
âĄEgypt has deployed Chinese long-range surface-to-air missile systems HQ-9B at strategic positions in the Sinai Desert.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 11:21am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland:đ you said youâre the most clear headed person here. You keep saying mother Russia and God bless Russia, I hope you know the Orthodox Christians in Russia donât see modern Israel as the real Israel in the bible. The Orthodox Church believes the promises in the bible are not literal and are for the Christian church. Am not saying you should change your beliefs, am just asking you to research orthodox Christian beliefs. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 11:25am On Sep 15, 2025 |
seunny4lif:You know whatâs up. One of the pics below is a device used in the recent Russian army pipeline operation in Kupyansk.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:41am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Trump na Lai Mohammed... How can he say drugs from Venezuela killed 300m Americans last year.. What's the population of America? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 11:47am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Allthelight:Can they come one after the other starting with the USA ? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:59am On Sep 15, 2025 |
âĄMarco Rubio: Iran possesses long-range missiles that could threaten the stability of the region and Europe. We encourage our European allies to impose sanctions on Iran. |
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