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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 6:53am On Sep 15, 2025
In Paris, a free fried chicken giveaway ended in a fight. A French blogger who organized the event through social media was forced to stop it due to police intervention.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 6:54am On Sep 15, 2025
Allthelight:
Can Russia take on NATO without nukes ?
Yes ... They have been doing that... NATO is fighting indirectly in Ukraine and Russian has been dealing with them
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 7:00am On Sep 15, 2025
ariesbull:
Yes ... They have been doing that... NATO is fighting indirectly in Ukraine and Russian has been dealing with them
you guys and your propagandas... You do know even Iran was not able to deal with atleast 50 F16s and F35 in their airspace right ?

How many F16s does Ukraine have compared to NATO
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull:
Allthelight:
you guys and your propagandas... You do know even Iran was not able to deal with atleast 50 F16s and F35 in their airspace right ?

How many F16s does Ukraine have compared to NATO
who is talking about Iran...did you smoke Gwuzoro?


Here’s a detailed summary of how NATO (and its member states) have been supporting / fighting Russia indirectly via Ukraine, with evidence.

What does “indirect fighting” mean in this context

By “indirect,” I mean actions short of NATO troops directly engaging Russian forces (no boots of NATO member militaries in large combat roles inside Russia), but involving:

Military aid (weapons, equipment) supplied to Ukraine

Intelligence sharing

Training, strategic and tactical support

Logistical, financial, diplomatic support

Coordination of allied efforts



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Evidence of NATO’s indirect role

Here are well-documented instances and sources showing how NATO (and NATO states) are involved in helping Ukraine in ways that affect the fighting:

1. Military Aid / Weapons & Equipment

NATO member countries have supplied many advanced weapons to Ukraine:
Examples include self-propelled artillery systems with 155 mm shells (which is NATO standard), such as the M109, AS90, CAESAR, PzH2000, Krab, Zuzana 24, Archer. More than 150 of such systems have been delivered.

Also long-range missiles: Ukraine has gotten ATACMS missiles from the U.S., and the UK/France have supplied Storm Shadow / Scalp missiles, usable for striking into Russian territory.

Anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons: Many NATO states have sent large numbers of anti-tank systems, anti-aircraft weapons etc.



2. Intelligence Sharing

NATO partners, especially the U.S., have shared more intelligence with Ukraine than at most times in recent history, per reports by NATO officials.

This includes targeting data, analysis of Russian troop movements, etc., which Ukraine uses to plan operations. (There are constraints / pauses in some sharing depending on policy changes).



3. Training, Strategic & Tactical Support

NATO has coordinated training programs for Ukrainian forces. There is a plan to better coordinate “security assistance and training for Ukraine,” with bases or command elements located in NATO facilities (e.g. in Wiesbaden, Germany) and logistical nodes in the eastern part of the Alliance.

The JALLC-UKR Initiative (Joint Analysis Lessons Learned Centre - Ukraine) is NATO’s set-up to help Ukraine develop “lessons learned” capacities, provide analysis, and share best practices.

A new NATO-Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Centre (JATEC), inaugurated in 2025, to institutionalize cooperation in training, adapting to Ukraine’s operational realities.



4. Logistics, Coordination, Diplomatic Support

NATO states have coordinated how weapons, supplies, aid get to Ukraine. The plan agreed in mid-2024 for coordination of security assistance is part of this.

Diplomatic pressure, sanctions on Russia, forums support (e.g. international bodies) also form part of the indirect strategy. These don’t always cause immediate battlefield effects but help constrain Russia’s diplomatic/military options.



5. Russia’s own Claims

Russia’s government has repeatedly accused NATO and the U.S. of being “indirect parties” to the conflict, because Western countries are supplying weapons, technologies, intelligence, etc.

Even though these are accusations from one side, they show that Russia itself considers the role of NATO states significant.


How strong is the evidence, and what is less certain

While there is strong evidence for many of these forms of support, some items are less well documented or remain contested:

Exactly how much intelligence is being shared, which specific operations it enables, and how directly those operations are linked to NATO commands vs Ukraine’s own decision-making is often classified.

The degree to which NATO as a formal bloc is commanding or controlling military operations of Ukraine is much less: Ukraine retains its sovereignty in strategic/tactical decisions.

Some accusations (from Russia or its media) such as NATO “helping plan invasions into Russia,” or using Ukraine as a proxy in all respects, are not always substantiated by open, verifiable evidence. For example, claims that NATO “helped Ukraine plot Kursk invasion” have been published in some media, but often rely on Russian or pro-Russian sources.

There is also debate / reporting about how efficiently the weapons are used, whether some are wasted, whether training is sufficient, etc. But the existence of the weapons and support is well established.

Putting this all together:

NATO has been fighting Russia indirectly via Ukraine primarily by equipping, training, and supporting Ukraine, not by direct military intervention.

The nature of that support has progressively included more advanced weapons systems, more coordination, and more institutional structures (training, intelligence sharing, lessons learned).

This indirect involvement has had real impact on the conflict dynamics — enabling Ukraine to defend territory, conduct counteroffensives, strike Russian infrastructure etc.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 7:29am On Sep 15, 2025
Allthelight:
Can Russia take on NATO without nukes ?
Russia is currently doing so and besides Nuke is a weapon not a decoration..

Can the whole 32 NATO countries take on Russia, China and North Korea ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 7:51am On Sep 15, 2025
⚡Trump:

Europe is buying oil from Russia. I don’t want them buying oil — and the sanctions they impose are not tough enough.

I am willing to impose sanctions, but they must toughen theirs in line with what I’m doing.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 7:52am On Sep 15, 2025
Allthelight:
Can Russia take on NATO without nukes ?
Silly question. 32 countries against 1.

The right question should be:

Can NATO take on Russia, China & India without nukes?

Still seems unbalanced. 32 against 3.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 7:58am On Sep 15, 2025
dvkot:
Russia is currently doing so and besides Nuke is a weapon not a decoration..

Can the whole 32 NATO countries take on Russia, China and North Korea ?
the thing always dey surprise me when I hear can I Russia defeat NATO without nukes.


As in what are the nuks meant for do we think that Russia just spent so much money to build large collection of nukes without any intention or aim of using them,then why build them.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:05am On Sep 15, 2025
Watcharena:
the thing always dey surprise me when I hear can I Russia defeat NATO without nukes.


As in what are the nuks meant for do we think that Russia just spent so much money to build large collection of nukes without any intention or aim of using them,then why build them.
How can NATO a 32 member country afraid of one nation Russia

It means Russia, China and North Korea can defeat the NATO in just 2 days
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 8:09am On Sep 15, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
You are just repeating the things those who hate Israel feed you with they feed you with a strong lie that they are not the real Israel and that the bible has been changed

The reason for this is because even quran bows to the power of the bible and uses Hebrew names as it anchor

So if they can push you out from loving
Israel and the Bible they have succeeded in making you not to believe the real true God

So sorry mate.
.
Now in terms of killing people

Devil hates Israel to it bone and will use all his power to make sure he brings more people to continue to hate them

Devil aims to wipe them off the face of the earth if he does this then devil will become God, well that what he thinks
... So it is a life and death situation which the result is people he moves in dies physically

Nothing can be done about it for now.
I have no hate for Israel and I believe isreal is here to stay however, Europeans aren't Israelites. That is called settler colonialism and its the reason why Israel is hated by many.

It is funny how western countries believe so such in humanity that they deny countries like Nigeria and others access to weapon they desperately needed to fight terrorism but gives the zionist entity top tech weapons to murder civilians in their thousands with impunity.

I do not hate the zionist entity, I hate what the zionist entity do to people. No logical human being would support what zionism has done to the world within 100 years of its existence. You are arguing from a religious standpoint and arguing with you on this subject matter will be tantamount to pouring water into a colander. Have a nice day
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:12am On Sep 15, 2025
Look.

Ukraine is on an umbilical cord through Poland and Romania.

Ukraine will be defeated by russia within a couple of months of those countries clip the cord.

It's not a threat.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:14am On Sep 15, 2025
It is Zelensky’s mess and championed by Biden/NATO.

Zelensky was elected to reach a peace deal with Russia. Instead he let US/NATO send him billions in military aid and convince him Ukraine would win. The West wanted Russia defeated and used Ukraine; a whole generation now gone
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:16am On Sep 15, 2025
In 3 months Ukraine will accept the peace deal set by Putin.
3 cities remain to be taken: Kramatorsk, Sloviansk, Kostantinovka.
Just the idiots may think Russia will be defeated.

Antonio Jorio
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 8:18am On Sep 15, 2025
The Russians haven't just defeated Ukraine, they've completely demilitarised NATO. There's not a Patriot missiles or 6" shell to be found anywhere.
Who has hypersonic missiles....
a. Russia
b. NATO

Jim Reaper
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:03am On Sep 15, 2025
Watcharena:
the thing always dey surprise me when I hear can I Russia defeat NATO without nukes.


As in what are the nuks meant for do we think that Russia just spent so much money to build large collection of nukes without any intention or aim of using them,then why build them.
are you minding them
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:07am On Sep 15, 2025
WriterrNg:
⚡Trump:

Europe is buying oil from Russia. I don’t want them buying oil — and the sanctions they impose are not tough enough.

I am willing to impose sanctions, but they must toughen theirs in line with what I’m doing.


Good..oga make your money, completely turn Europe to a vessel state. And remember they must buy your expensive weapons and gas.. After all it's more profitable to sell the fear of Russia than it is to fight them.
Just imagine you for once let's say Russia is defeated completely and broken into several small states that possess no more threats to Europe, how them will US sell more weapons to Europe?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:14am On Sep 15, 2025
⚡Russia's Medvedev:

The idea pushed by Kyiv and others to create a “no-fly zone over ‘Ukraine’” and let NATO shoot down our drones would mean only one thing – war between NATO and Russia.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:54am On Sep 15, 2025
Fash20:
I have no hate for Israel and I believe isreal is here to stay however, Europeans aren't Israelites. That is called settler colonialism and its the reason why Israel is hated by many.

It is funny how western countries believe so such in humanity that they deny countries like Nigeria and others access to weapon they desperately needed to fight terrorism but gives the zionist entity top tech weapons to murder civilians in their thousands with impunity.

I do not hate the zionist entity, I hate what the zionist entity do to people. No logical human being would support what zionism has done to the world within 100 years of its existence. You are arguing from a religious standpoint and arguing with you on this subject matter will be tantamount to pouring water into a colander. Have a nice day
I don't think or argue or reason from a religious standpoint

Am the most clear headed individual on earth and I think outside the box

Refusing the law or ignorance of the law is not an excuse when you commit crime

So what makes you feel refusing to accept that supernatural forces controls this earth will give you comfort

and you are actually trying to cajole me to stop seeing things both from the spiritual side and you want me to only see from the physical side

You want me to be like you to see it only from the physical side
Because if you really come to my side and start to see human life from the spiritual side
You will indeed bow to the God of Israel

God makes no apology he told us that non of us elected him to become God and it is him that elected whom ever he wants and likes

He even gave us an example that when Jacob and his twin brother were in the belly of their mom

That he chose Jacob even when non of them have ever done anything good or bad... So he said he is the one who chooses and who elects..

Who are we to question his choice
WHO WHO WHO

We are nothing we are just tools in his hand so you have one choice accept him as he is and acknowledge he is the almighty.

Peace
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by olutund(m): 10:02am On Sep 15, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Am the most clear headed individual on earth and I think outside the box



So what makes you feel refusing to accept that supernatural forces controls this earth will give you comfort
.

Peace
the most clear headed on earth,

and believing supernatural forces control earth,

should not be in the same sentence
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 10:20am On Sep 15, 2025
⚡Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) claims the European Union is preparing a “Serbian Maidan.”

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:25am On Sep 15, 2025
olutund:
the most clear headed on earth,

and believing supernatural forces control earth,

should not be in the same sentence
It should be unless you believe the big bang created you and you came from nothing
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Rilwayne001: 10:25am On Sep 15, 2025
olutund:
the most clear headed on earth,
and believing supernatural forces control earth,
should not be in the same sentence
Dude is delusional
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:03am On Sep 15, 2025
Another new be that thinks abusing people will make him look tough oops
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:19am On Sep 15, 2025
⚡Egypt has deployed Chinese long-range surface-to-air missile systems HQ-9B at strategic positions in the Sinai Desert.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 11:21am On Sep 15, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
I don't think or argue or reason from a religious standpoint

Am the most clear headed individual on earth and I think outside the box

Refusing the law or ignorance of the law is not an excuse when you commit crime

So what makes you feel refusing to accept that supernatural forces controls this earth will give you comfort

and you are actually trying to cajole me to stop seeing things both from the spiritual side and you want me to only see from the physical side

You want me to be like you to see it only from the physical side
Because if you really come to my side and start to see human life from the spiritual side
You will indeed bow to the God of Israel

God makes no apology he told us that non of us elected him to become God and it is him that elected whom ever he wants and likes

He even gave us an example that when Jacob and his twin brother were in the belly of their mom

That he chose Jacob even when non of them have ever done anything good or bad... So he said he is the one who chooses and who elects..

Who are we to question his choice
WHO WHO WHO

We are nothing we are just tools in his hand so you have one choice accept him as he is and acknowledge he is the almighty.

Peace
😆 you said you’re the most clear headed person here. You keep saying mother Russia and God bless Russia, I hope you know the Orthodox Christians in Russia don’t see modern Israel as the real Israel in the bible. The Orthodox Church believes the promises in the bible are not literal and are for the Christian church. Am not saying you should change your beliefs, am just asking you to research orthodox Christian beliefs.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 11:25am On Sep 15, 2025
seunny4lif:
Poland: “Russian drones violated our airspace.”
Trump: “I don’t believe that to be true.”
Poland: “But Donald, it really happened.”
Trump: “Well, if you think it happened, do whatever you want—just don’t drag me into it.”
Poland: “You know what, you’re right, Donald. No violation took place after all.”

Russia who has been so careful for the whole 3 years of the war not to antagonise NATO just suddenly sends 19 drones into Poland...but didn't attack anything.
You know what’s up. One of the pics below is a device used in the recent Russian army pipeline operation in Kupyansk.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:41am On Sep 15, 2025
Trump na Lai Mohammed... How can he say drugs from Venezuela killed 300m Americans last year.. What's the population of America?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 11:47am On Sep 15, 2025
Allthelight:
Can Russia take on NATO without nukes ?
Can they come one after the other starting with the USA ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:59am On Sep 15, 2025
⚡Marco Rubio:

Iran possesses long-range missiles that could threaten the stability of the region and Europe.

We encourage our European allies to impose sanctions on Iran.
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