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How do people even see public schools self ?

I mean I grew up in Lagos and the school I went to was a public school, Fashola did a great Job there.

Most of the people commenting on this post are seriously guilty of the same crime.

Let's do the investigation:

How much is your monthly salary?
How much is your annual rent?
How many kids do you have?
How much is your kids' school fee in a term?
Which type of phone do you use?
What is the price of the phone?
How much do you spend on data subscription monthly?
Does your data usage bring you any income?
How much do you spend on your babe monthly?

My landlady increased my rent from 200k to 350k...

I had to move out oh...I went to another place where it's 200k and I paid for three years at once..
I thought I was been foolish..but I can't stay in a house where to pay rent, BP go dey hold me..
I got a job at the island where rent ran info million,I refused to pick it...no be me una go put into pressure

Sonnobax15:

Some parents are the one putting themselves under unnecessary pressured.....

There was a time when one of my uncle came to meet my dad to help him out so that he can pay his kids school fees......At first,my dad paid but advised him to withdraw the kids from the private school and enrol them in a well known govt school...This oncle of mine, who's equally a farmer took that as an offense and starting keeping malice with my dad......

That is not a good advise from your dad, considering how poorly these public schools are being run. Even the teachers in these public schools don't put their children there. He should've rather advise him to look for a school that is within his budget or the one he can easily afford. You dad should've simply tell him to do something about the situation because he can't keep borrowing money to pay his children school fees withiout being specifically on what he should do.

Sometime, people found themselves in some situations they hope to get out from soonest, you don't need to downgrade them at that moment but to advise in line of what you think they deserve.

Acidosis:
We can't really blame some parents. Some decisions we make early in life have long-lasting, if not eternal, impacts. There are certain schools you attend, and you just know that it will take only luck or the grace of God for one to rise above a certain level. The world is so competitive now.

Just last week on X, I saw some Nigerians regretting that they didn’t study Engineering in Unilag. Who wouldn’t? You just have to see the number of graduates getting jobs in top global companies like Bloomberg, Google, etc., straight after school. The same goes for their medical students. Their level of networking is just something else. While other people are hustling for NYSC, those ones have already completed their online interviews with Bloomberg, US medical schools, etc. I've read the same pattern with CU students.

Same education as someone who studied the same course in e.g., faraway Taraba State, but the networking, friendship? That’s what makes the difference.

As long as they’re not doing it blindly or getting into needless debt or blind competition, omo, we can’t really blame them. Many adults today developed low self-esteem because of their poor background. By poor, it doesn’t necessarily mean lack of money, but poor exposure and mentality.

Some of the points you raised here were necessary those days, but with internet, any student who wishes to network can easily do that in a professional way.
I have mentored many I’ve never met in person, but their approach, messages or email tells how prepared they are to be mentored

Ahmeduana:
You people don't seem to realize what this evil pathetic government is doing to Nigerians, they keep hunting Nigerians no matter the level we dropped to just to survive, you dropped from 50k to 30k they will surely enact a policy that we make the school to increase from 30k, and you find the one of 20k,... I come to realize that until Nigerias start dying in thousands before this God forsaken government will satisfy.. am not surprised when they say they are going to decriminalized suicide... Because they know that there remain yet to enact policies is going to make lots of Nigerians to commit suicide

The fact they decriminalized suicide speaks volumes of their agenda and what is to come from them.

Caaz:
I nor dey do pass my sef.....my Kids attend a well known government school with sound teachers and modern facilities, attedance is bae,with serious and dedicated teachers.


My daughter represent her school at every events and she comes back with truck loads of gifts,at one occasion i was so proud seeing my lil daughter at our stadium podium shaking hands with the person that represented our delta state governor earlier this year.


I dont pay school feel,no pressure,she gets free textbooks

Brotherman. Na you be true government pikin.

I don't agree with this

In Nigeria of today, even those who could comfortably pay their ward school fees are now struggling to pay it

With the rising cost of everything including school fees, it's not easy at all

Idemma:
A Nigerian woman, Nenye Uzowulu, has advised parents to carefully consider the schools they send their children to, saying that school fees they struggle to pay are no longer regular tuition but “ransom.”

Nenye Uzowulu shared her thoughts on Facebook on Monday, cautioning parents against being pressured by private school owners over rising fees.

“Any school fees you struggle to pay is no longer school fees but Ransom! Take your kids to where you can afford. Same as HouseRent,” she wrote.

Explaining her reasoning, Uzowulu said she knows a woman who is constantly in debt, taking loans to pay her children’s school fees.

“I know a woman who is living in debt now. She will always collect loan to pay school fees. Like what kind of mother are you?” she added.

Source: https://www.gistreel.com/any-school-fees-you-struggle-to-pay-is-no-longer-school-fees-but-ransom-woman-tells-parents/

Perfectly right indeed

Acidosis:
We can't really blame some parents. Some decisions we make early in life have long-lasting, if not eternal, impacts. There are certain schools you attend, and you just know that it will take only luck or the grace of God for one to rise above a certain level. The world is so competitive now.

Just last week on X, I saw some Nigerians regretting that they didn’t study Engineering in Unilag. Who wouldn’t? You just have to see the number of graduates getting jobs in top global companies like Bloomberg, Google, etc., straight after school. The same goes for their medical students. Their level of networking is just something else. While other people are hustling for NYSC, those ones have already completed their online interviews with Bloomberg, US medical schools, etc. I've read the same pattern with CU students.

Same education as someone who studied the same course in e.g., faraway Taraba State, but the networking, friendship? That’s what makes the difference.

As long as they’re not doing it blindly or getting into needless debt or blind competition, omo, we can’t really blame them. Many adults today developed low self-esteem because of their poor background. By poor, it doesn’t necessarily mean lack of money, but poor exposure and mentality.

I get your point but uni is very different from primary and secondary school. I will pay huge for my childrens uni education cause that's where they actually network just as you mentioned.

To your cloth not size

Apcshit:
Cut your clothes according to your size or cloth

Hampers001:
My landlady increased my rent from 200k to 350k...

I had to move out oh...I went to another place where it's 200k and I paid for three years at once..
I thought I was been foolish..but I can't stay in a house where to pay rent, BP go dey hold me..
I got a job at the island where rent ran info million,I refused to pick it...no be me una go put into pressure

You are a wise man.
Don’t let anybody out you under pressure.

Some of the companies employing thousands we know of today are owned by people who funded their education through menial jobs and those whom their parents sold lands,possessions and even borrowed to see them through school.
Educating your children is like investment and investments are about risks and sacrifice.

Caaz:
I nor dey do pass my sef.....my Kids attend a well known government school with sound teachers and modern facilities, attedance is bae,with serious and dedicated teachers.


My daughter represent her school at every events and she comes back with truck loads of gifts,at one occasion i was so proud seeing my lil daughter at our stadium podium shaking hands with the person that represented our delta state governor earlier this year.


I dont pay school feel,no pressure,she gets free textbooks

thank your Star that Ur states government is spending on education, most government school in Nigeria are so poor, no teachings facilities, no teachers any more and they are not ready to employ new ones

She is really making a point here...
Cut your clothes according to your cloth.

Ehnyah. Brooke people forum.

lilyheaven:
🤣🤣😆

Na brother flash touch light for them when they were doing doings

Perhaps....we no dey dere😄

tesuto1:
This is like saying there are schools whose products can never make it big in life. You know,right

You can interpret it the best way you understand it

Sonnobax15:

Some parents are the ones putting themselves under unnecessary pressured.....

There was a time when one of my uncle came to meet my dad to help him out so that he can pay his kids school fees......At first,my dad paid but advised him to withdraw the kids from the private school and enrol them in a well known govt school...This oncle of mine, who's equally a farmer took that as an offense and starting keeping malice with my dad......

You have a corresponding story for every topic on nairaland

😂😂Abi gate fee for entry into a better world🤣🤣🤣🤣Students are really really struggling to pay. Fact

Which is why you should keep at it to guarantee your freedom!😂😂😂

Acidosis:
We can't really blame some parents. Some decisions we make early in life have long-lasting, if not eternal, impacts. There are certain schools you attend, and you just know that it will take only luck or the grace of God for one to rise above a certain level. The world is so competitive now.Just last week on X, I saw some Nigerians regretting that they didn’t study Engineering in Unilag. Who wouldn’t? You just have to see the number of graduates getting jobs in top global companies like Bloomberg, Google, etc., straight after school. The same goes for their medical students. Their level of networking is just something else. While other people are hustling for NYSC, those ones have already completed their online interviews with Bloomberg, US medical schools, etc. I've read the same pattern with CU students.
Same education as someone who studied the same course in e.g., faraway Taraba State, but the networking, friendship? That’s what makes the difference.
As long as they’re not doing it blindly or getting into needless debt or blind competition, omo, we can’t really blame them. Many adults today developed low self-esteem because of their poor background. By poor, it doesn’t necessarily mean lack of money, but poor exposure and mentality.

I agree with everything you have stated. However, the way to overcome the challenge of poor exposure is via the Internet. I am one of those who went to a no-name school because I wasn't allowed to leave my state of residence, but with constant voracious research and reading online articles, I overcame the school aspect. I have participated in EduBridge Financial Class, and honestly, I was the only student who studied at a university in Eastern Nigeria. The majority were ABUAD, UI, UNILAG and of course, CU.

Finance plays a huge role, rather than just the name of the school. I could afford trips to Lagos whenever I wanted. I had a place to live. Most importantly, the drive and ambition led me to EduBridge. I have conversed with accounting students from a sister university, and they did not know what KPMG and PwC were all about. Ordinarily, they should have as their school had a bigger name than mine. But I knew about the Big4 more than them all thanks to the Internet.

My friend had participated in the US embassy-sponsored Grad Program, and he had taken the GRE, but because of his low score, he was not qualified. He saw the application online and applied. I have applied to a popular investment bank on behalf of a senior schoolmate who is a math guru. I saw the job ad in a WhatsApp group, told him he can be qualified because of his high grade. He gave me the go-ahead; I applied, and he got called up for the test. Interestingly, the ad stated they want First Class in Physics or Mathematics applicants but my schoolmate had a 4.46 CGPA in mathematics. I reasoned that with a stellar and American-style investment bank CV and cover letter, he would be called up, so I applied. Where did I see the CV template? On the Internet. He was the only one with a 2.1 out of 8 persons and the only grad from a uni East of the Niger.

Young people should learn to use the Internet for useful purposes. It is the greatest invention after electricity.

tosyne2much:
I don't agree with this

In Nigeria of today, even those who could comfortably pay their ward school fees are now struggling to pay it

With the rising cost of everything including school fees, it's not easy at all

The solution to this and the woman's post is to have few children. Nothing beats having few children.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, defeats having few children. That is the cheat code.

Googledotcom:
How do people even see public schools self ?

I mean I grew up in Lagos and the school I went to was a public school, Fashola did a great Job there.

This too; there are good public schools. Parents can enrol their children there, employ the services of a good math tutor to enable the children to hone their math skills and most importantly, be readily aware of scholarship information on the Internet. In fact, educated parents from lower-middle-class families should prep their children for scholarship opportunities for tertiary education so they don't have to pay for it. Get other people to pay for the education. It is more of the drive and ambition than just the school. Location plays a role, quite alright, but that drive is important.

The Internet is available for any ambitious individual to excel.

pocohantas:
I agree with her.



Walahi na humans dey complicate their lives unnecessarily. Work within your income class, please.

Yes and No.

This is my industry so I can speak on it, will drop a post later.

Gerrard59:
This too; there are good public schools. Parents can enrol their children there, employ the services of a good math tutor to enable the children to hone their math skills and most importantly, be readily aware of scholarship information on the Internet. In fact, educated parents from lower-middle-class families should prep their children for scholarship opportunities for tertiary education so they don't have to pay for it. Get other people to pay for the education. It is more of the drive and ambition than just the school. Location plays a role, quite alright, but that drive is important.

The Internet is available for any ambitious individual to excel.

This is my industry and I agree with your post but there's a reason why this doesn't happen. You cannot refine a diamond in the middle of an asphalt quarry. I'll explain below.

So, I'll speak on this matter

Your schoolfees reflect what you will get for your kids. Period.

If you pay a little, you get a little. If you pay a lot, you get a lot more. How much more you can get from either a public or private school is entirely up to you.

And this is where paying more school fees matters.

Your mentality and choices are determined by the environment and people surrounding you.

Gerrard59, your post was spot on. But the number of Public School parents who will do what you suggested is less than 1%. The number of Private School parents who will do it is greater than 30%.

That is why when Nigerian students win competitions abroad, they are usually from wealthy homes attending nice private schools.

I teach Math and Science with a foreign curriculum, all my students live in highbrow areas. Middle class parents don't see the value in what I'm teaching. They've heard of it from wealthy parents but their mentality is still old school and traditional: Math and English taught the old Naija method, throw in some poorly coordinated "robotics" training and they're satisfied

Meanwhile, I'm prepping my 8 yr old to compete against East Asian kids and attend university at Tsinghua, MIT, Stanford or Loughborough.

My 2 year old, I'm unbothered that he can't hold a pencil (I see people from lower income schools crowing happily about their toddlers writing). Why should I be, I gave him a simplified Rubik's Cube and have been throwing so much science and math at him since he was 1.

My oldest won a medal at an international math Olympiad, I have been working on her critical thinking skills.

My teen nephews have been practicing essay writing skills since primary school, with a dedicated teacher.

A friend's child just got a swim scholarship from Germany.

My mentality is a 1% and when I lived in a highbrow area, we parents constantly swapped tips and ideas on how to push our kids forward. Our kids were training academics and sports, just because we all are planning on them writing SATs and IGCSE and we know that the essay must showcase the kids perfectly.

Our kids are in Primary and Junior secondary schools with 10 year goal plans for them.

You'll never find that kind of thinking from people who are struggling to survive or just got out of survival mode. You'll only find that from people who know that hunger is not a problem anymore.

Middle Class schools, they do homework daily. Just repetition and repetition.

And here's what people don't know: the quality of textbooks used in Nigeria vary wildly. There are publishers that won't sell to your school if they think the order is too small. There are good textbooks that are too expensive for most schools (I've seen Farafina social studies textbooks that you won't find in schools paying less than N400,000/term).

N1mil/term is using British textbooks that explain Math better and give challenging past questions.

Your child is basically handicapped and you have no idea, you're seeing them pass but don't realize that they're learning with the equivalent of a C-grade textbook vs others learning with an A-grade textbook.

In my Math and Science cohort, I use UK and Singapore's system. I teach 5 yr old Astronomy and it isn't just watching YouTube videos: they have to go out and observe the night sky. My son builds science models and understands Physics, we use pH papers and tuning forks to learn Science in primary schools. That's SS1 experiments being run.

Same thing happens in the Robotics competitions: wealthy schools demolish their counterparts. They have access to the best materials and they do it at home, for fun. Your kids attending their schools will make friends with a classmate who has more Lego and STEM toys than you've ever seen and that's how your child will start their Mechanical Engineering life, in Pry 4.

You simply cannot say "cheap will do".

What every parent should make sure is that they're getting bang for their buck, so the more you spend, the more you should see value.

She is is hundred percent right.
This has been my principle since I started, that my children school fee shouldn't be more than half of my salary, any thing more than that I no fit oooooo.
And it pretty work for me, I no fit kill myself oooo.
I sow some of my mate, who enrolled their kid on high expenses school (some of them just because of how the school bus looks and how the school uniform looks) when they were having one kid struggle as the family.
expanded and as things get harder.
They keep on changing their kid school almost every team, to adjust to their income, until we finally meet again in the same school of my.

And for connections, Secondary and University is where the strong connections are made. Even the right Primary school can mean you'll never get a visa denial at a lot of embassies (people golf with Ambassadors and their kids attend birthday parties and camp together).

Finally,

All these cries of:

"your child is using washing machine they're lazy" (seriously, what skills or moral does hand washing impart)

"Your child ate 2 pieces of meat, they're greedy and lack home training" (when they need the protein, that's why average Naija height is 5'7" )

"Your child is attending expensive school, they're spoilt/stupid and can't pass JAMB" (none are planning on schooling here) or "you're only doing it to show off" Etc

Is just Nigerian pride trying to make itself feel better for its' poverty. Aka "I can't have it and I can't be humble, so I'll denigrate it to make myself feel better". You know we love only 2 things: "I better pass my neighbor" and "if I can't have it, it must be nonsense".

Double post double post double post

You can easily say this when you are in Nigeria with different options, in abroad the options are limited. Meanwhile give your children the best, education is still the best thing you can give to them