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Re: A Little Time In Angola by Farfalla(f):
emmaodet:
Well, there are igbos there selling spare parts and second hand clothes. Even the bottle water i drank i beleive is owned by an igbo man because he called it Mazi which is like King in igbo if am right.
Maji, madzi, amanzi, manzi, mayi, mae, kamachi, amatsi, amazi, metsi, mati, matsi, amadzi, amache, mashi, madi, amazzi, menshi...etc

The above words translate to water in the numerous Bantu languages spoken across Eastern, Central and Southern Africa.

I imagine the term mazi probably just means "water" in one of Angola's local languages.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 4:55am On Dec 17, 2022
Gante04:
Broke Man. Instead of joining your mates to relocate to Canada or the US. Sell your business in Nigeria and relocate abroad . That's the right thing
Okay sir.
I will do that as soon as possible.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 4:57am On Dec 17, 2022
Farfalla:
Maji, madzi, amanzi, manzi, mayi, mae, kamachi, amazi, metsi, mati, matsi, amadzi, amache, mashi, madi, amazzi, menshi...etc

The above are words which refer to water in the numerous Bantu languages spoken across Eastern, Central and Southern Africa.

I imagine the term mazi probably just means "water" in one of Angola's local languages.
Ooohhhhhh. Thanks for the clarification.

You may be right. Will enquiry from my Angolan friends
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 7:31am On Dec 18, 2022
Gante04:
Since it's not possible for anyone to really make it in Naija. That's why I'm giving you tangible advise like this
Yes, you are right.
No one can make it in Nigeria.

Thank you my Friend. I will set traveling out with my family in motion and make it my top priority.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by okeysoninv: 7:52am On Dec 18, 2022
hodari:
Luanda is the most expensive city in the world. A simple meal at EPIC Sana hotel is KWZ 45,000 ($90).

That said, Talatona suburb is a nice place, lots of things happening. Power in Luanda is stable, I hardly saw generators.

Sadly, the oil & gas boom times are over and without knowing Portuguese, it's next to impossible to survive there.

Overall, if you have lots of money, the place has Miami or Rio de Janeiro vibes.
I wonder why you could say oil boom time is over when oil is trading over 90usd per barrel. and gas is over 2x as of last year.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 12:32pm On Dec 18, 2022
okeysoninv:
I wonder why you could say oil boom time is over when oil is trading over 90usd per barrel. and gas is over 2x as of last year.
It is because-
1. It may never cross the $100/barrel mark again.

2. There is strong competition from alternative energies like electric cars, wind turbines in Europe used to power their cities etc that will constantly push down the price of crude and also reduce the demand for it.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by okeysoninv: 12:49pm On Dec 18, 2022
emmaodet:
It is because-
1. It may never cross the $100/barrel mark again.

2. There is strong competition from alternative energies like electric cars, wind turbines in Europe used to power their cities etc that will constantly push down the price of crude and also reduce the demand for it.
did you say never close $100/ barrel again when you has been more than that range is ukraine war.
2. oil will cont to play a major role industrialization . solar can never outshine use of oil. besides, Angola has alot of other natural resources diamond, cold, Copper etc.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by blueAgent(m): 12:40pm On Jan 29, 2023
emmaodet:
I suspect this bottle water company is being owned by a Nigerian (I guess an Igbo man) because the name “Mazi” sounds Igbo.

Igbo kwenu …. Heyyy
grin grin grin

It's possible or just coincidence.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by blueAgent(m): 12:43pm On Jan 29, 2023
emmaodet:
Places I wished I had gone to but never had the chances are Lobito and Benguela.

Lobito because it is a nickname of one of my childhood friend so am curious to really know the place and also there is a Lobito block industry in my town here in Nigeria.
The man is very popular and rich with many businesses.

Benguela because that is the predominant water current in Southern Africa. So really want to see the town that the current is named after.
While the predominant current here in west Africa is Guinea current that affects the Gulf of Guinea or Bight of Biafra as it is known, Benguela affects from South Africa to congo.
Characteristics of water areas affected by Benguela is strong current, high swells and waves, too many Sharks in this water.
South Africa and Angola have too many sharks in their water.
True
Re: A Little Time In Angola by blueAgent(m): 12:48pm On Jan 29, 2023
emmaodet:
Job keee
It is a very rich country but with poor people like most african countries. Same old stories.
People are looking for job too here unless you are coming as an expert in their oil and gas industry. In that case, you have to apply to a foreign country from nigeria who will then post you to angola.
Sad.

A country that should be competing with the likes of Qatar,Kuwait,UAE,Saudi in terms of development and wealth.

I don't know what is wrong with the blackman.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 3:22pm On Jan 29, 2023
blueAgent:
Sad.

A country that should be competing with the likes of Qatar,Kuwait,UAE,Saudi in terms of development and wealth.

I don't know what is wrong with the blackman.
Honestly, i think the black man/race iscursed.
Namibia is larger than Nigeria landmass wise but with the population half of Ogun state (2.5m) which means there is vast land for farming or anything and the government overhead cost should be low because they will need to build less universities, hospitals, schools etc

Ogun state has 1 federal uni, 1 state uni, i federal poly and 1 state poly, 2 colleges of education for a population of 5m, so namibia at worst needs half of that.

Despite having huge diamond reserve,the country people are sooooo poor and the goverment has looted and borrowed from international banks to the limit with virtually nothing to show for the small population country.

So sad. Atleast we can lie to ourselves here in nigeria that the population is too much for the revenue the country is earning to show. what about failed smaller countries with resources like equitorial guinea? gabon, namibia, angola, congos etc
Re: A Little Time In Angola by blueAgent(m): 4:22pm On Jan 29, 2023
emmaodet:
Honestly, i think the black man/race iscursed.
Namibia is larger than Nigeria landmass wise but with the population half of Ogun state (2.5m) which means there is vast land for farming or anything and the government overhead cost should be low because they will need to build less universities, hospitals, schools etc

Ogun state has 1 federal uni, 1 state uni, i federal poly and 1 state poly, 2 colleges of education for a population of 5m, so namibia at worst needs half of that.

Despite having huge diamond reserve,the country people are sooooo poor and the goverment has looted and borrowed from international banks to the limit with virtually nothing to show for the small population country.

So sad. Atleast we can lie to ourselves here in nigeria that the population is too much for the revenue the country is earning to show. what about failed smaller countries with resources like equitorial guinea? gabon, namibia, angola, congos etc
Exactly.

The same comparism can be done between Qatar,UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain and Gabon and equitorial Guinea.

The both African countries are oil producers with population of less than 3miillion ppl each, they have favourable climate and arable soil with abundant mineral resources besides oil, Something those Arab nations I mentioned cannot boast of.

Yet this African countries are more or less 3rd world countries with high level of poverty and infrastructure deficit.

I have come to this conclusion long time ago, over 20years ago , that there is something really wrong with the black race.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by blueAgent(m): 4:38pm On Jan 29, 2023
emmaodet:
Honestly, i think the black man/race iscursed.
Namibia is larger than Nigeria landmass wise but with the population half of Ogun state (2.5m) which means there is vast land for farming or anything and the government overhead cost should be low because they will need to build less universities, hospitals, schools etc

Ogun state has 1 federal uni, 1 state uni, i federal poly and 1 state poly, 2 colleges of education for a population of 5m, so namibia at worst needs half of that.

Despite having huge diamond reserve,the country people are sooooo poor and the goverment has looted and borrowed from international banks to the limit with virtually nothing to show for the small population country.

So sad. Atleast we can lie to ourselves here in nigeria that the population is too much for the revenue the country is earning to show. what about failed smaller countries with resources like equitorial guinea? gabon, namibia, angola, congos etc
Some confused and delusional dudes on this forum would blame this setbacks on western powers and colonization.

But the truth and facts proves otherwise.

How can one explain the level of poverty and undevelopment in Haiti and Liberia , 2 black nations with over 100years as independent nations.

Or how do we explain the fact that Singapore a country that was thrown out of the union between them and Malaysia, can turn out to be one of the world's biggest economy and well developed country with advanced standard of living despite all the odds against them.

Singapore lacks land resources, been an island, smaller than many LGA's in Nigeria,it is Less than 700sqkm, if you remove land reclaimed from the sea.

Singapore does not have land for agricultural purposes.
Singapore does not have any mineral resources even drinking water has to be imported through pipeline from Malaysia.

They gained their independence in 1965.

Singarpore has a population of about 5million ppl.

Singapore has the qualities or disadvantages of a potential failed state, but instead of becoming a failed state, singarpore is an advanced country with well developed infrastructure and good standard of living.

Gabon & equitorial guinea even with their oil wealth and smaller population and other advantages like availability of land,agricultural potential and other mineral resources they possess are still failed state or 3rd world countries, compared to singarpore despite all the advantages they have.

Liberia after over 100 years of independence(got independence in 1847) with all there mineral wealth cannot compare to singarpore, same with Haiti( got independence in 1804)
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 10:44am On Jun 10, 2023
Pictures from the top of Presidential Hotel i lodged at Luanda

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 10:46am On Jun 10, 2023
Buffet at Presidential Hotel.

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 10:48am On Jun 10, 2023
Skylite Hotel AT Ethiopia

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 10:50am On Jun 10, 2023
Ethiopia airport

Re: A Little Time In Angola by hodari: 12:02pm On Jun 10, 2023
emmaodet:
Honestly, i think the black man/race iscursed.
Namibia is larger than Nigeria landmass wise but with the population half of Ogun state (2.5m) which means there is vast land for farming or anything and the government overhead cost should be low because they will need to build less universities, hospitals, schools etc

Ogun state has 1 federal uni, 1 state uni, i federal poly and 1 state poly, 2 colleges of education for a population of 5m, so namibia at worst needs half of that.

Despite having huge diamond reserve,the country people are sooooo poor and the goverment has looted and borrowed from international banks to the limit with virtually nothing to show for the small population country.

So sad. Atleast we can lie to ourselves here in nigeria that the population is too much for the revenue the country is earning to show. what about failed smaller countries with resources like equitorial guinea? gabon, namibia, angola, congos etc
I doubt you've been to Namibia before? You can't compare the development in that country to Nigeria. Yes it has a smaller population and economy but when I visited there, I remember Windhoek as a nice organised city with low levels of visible poverty.

Countries such as Botswana, Bahamas, Barbados, Bermuda are well managed, Black upper middle class countries.

Bahamas and Bermuda in particular are wealthier and more organized than many European countries.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 6:55am On Sep 17, 2025
I don't know what angola govt. want to use this big and massive airport for because they have a small population of 30m and a large percentage of them are poor.
They hardly travel by air so i am just wondering who their target markets are?
If this is in Lagos or Abuja or Egypt/Ethiopia/South Africa, i will understand due to their huge traffic or population or economy but Angola?
With this massive infrastructure, it only means one thing - China that built this airport is positioning Angola for massive economic implosion soonest. It means there is a long term plan to open up Angola previously highly-closed economy to the outer world.
It is/was a socialist-UUSR type of country that hardly allows foreigners into their country but after the last president that died in 2023, the country has been relaxing her grip on the citizens.
The 30 years war was between Russia-supported/socialist sitting president and US-supported rebels but the end, the rebels lost.
The last election i think in late 2023 or early 2024 was a tight battle between the Russia/China leaning sitting president and the US/Western backers leaning opposition candidate and the margin was very very tight and close - around 51/49% votes.
Over the years, the margin has been closing gap and there is a popular believe the US-backed candidate will unseat the Russia/China backed presidential candidate and party in the next election.
Last election was tight and rigid.
There was frictions in the air and near/close violence and civil war in the fragile just coming out of a 30 years country.

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 6:58am On Sep 17, 2025
Imagine a country with total daily local flight from her capital to other areas in the country to be just 9 flights per day, just 9. That is to tell you how poor they are.
That is like saying Lagos to other local airports in nigeria flight per day is 9 or abuja.
I want to believe calabar port or Uyo or Asaba do the same numbers per day.
Remove Lagos, Abuja and PH because these are massive high traffic airports.

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 7:01am On Sep 17, 2025
The new airport has 126 gates or outlets to enter a plane. That is to give you an idea how big and massive this airport is.

Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 7:02am On Sep 17, 2025
And this

Re: A Little Time In Angola by peleson1: 3:25pm On Sep 17, 2025
Great thread .

Loving it.

Welcome back to Angola.


Angola is opening up and the US /French or western countries are investing heavily in their oil and gas .


At the moment ,they have over USD5billion investment in a single JV that I know.
Re: A Little Time In Angola by peleson1: 3:28pm On Sep 17, 2025
Give update on the politics of the oil rich region and let us know if they still have similar immigration system at their borders .


But if angola government is serious,they can open up Angola through regional infrastructural investments and improve on healthcare, education and sports massively
Re: A Little Time In Angola by emmaodet(op): 5:05pm On Sep 17, 2025
peleson1:
Give update on the politics of the oil rich region and let us know if they still have similar immigration system at their borders .


But if angola government is serious,they can open up Angola through regional infrastructural investments and improve on healthcare, education and sports massively
The issue is the massive corruption in the country like every other black african countries.
Are you in Angola presently?
The immigration bottleneck is still in place.
You need to pass through immigration when going from one region to the other e.g Luanda to Soyo to Cabinda
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