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There is 5 good years between 2020 and 2025! In that period a lot might have happened.

Btw, you people should stop being unnecessarily petty, Tinubu advised Buhari to do something doesn’t mean he forced the president to do it. Tinubu was against fuel subsidy removal during Jonathan era but now he removed it. A lot of things can happen in Nigeria within just a year.

Bar1941:
There is 5 good years between 2020 and 2025! In that period a lot might have happened.

which Tinubu supported all the way to the end, and even promised to continue from where Buhari stopped. Isn't that what happened?

SmartPolician:
Tinubu is a terrible man. He played a major role in destroying Nigeria's economy

Tinubu did NOT play a major role in destroying our economy.

He played a CRITICAL role in the collapse and destruction of our economy.

How else would you describe making his 2011 expired looter into APC change messiah four years later, only to show us shege pepper extreme poverty?

anonimi:
March 21, 2011

Tinubu rules out alliance with CPC

Prospect of a possible alliance between the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN and Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, was dashed yesterday in Kano as the leader of the party and former governor of Lagos State, Asiwaju Ahmed Bola Tinubu described CPC as parading “expired leadership.”

Tinubu told ACN supporters in Kano during the party’s Presidential rally that: “What Nigerians need now is a transformation in leadership” as obtained in the advanced economy.

The two-term Governor of Lagos State explained that the leadership of ACN was offering Nigeria the brilliance of Nuhu Ribadu who, he said, is in the class of Nicolas Sarkozi of France, David Cameron of Britain, Medvedev of Russia and Barack Obama of the United States of America.

“What has CPC got to offer? We certainly don’t need expired leadership as we are offering the best in terms of brilliance, courage and patriotism in the class of Sarkozi of France, David Cameron of Britain and Barack Obama of the USA.”

Tinubu’s position came on the heels of Ribadu’s declaration penultimate week in Kaduna when he hinted during a political rally of a joint ticket between the two opposition parties to confront the dominance of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP.

The national leader of ACN criticised President Goodluck Jonathan for shying away from the national debate held last Friday, stressing that”that singular act exposed Jonathan as a coward who has nothing to offer.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/tinubu-rules-out-alliance-with-cpc/

Flashback: How Bola Tinubu spoke highly of Buhari in 2015, named PDP ‘Poverty Development Party

National leader of the ruling All Progressives Congress, APC, Bola Tinubu had during the presidential campaign in 2015, referred to President Muhammadu Buhari as the only solution for the security and economic challenges facing Nigeria.

During a mega presidential rally, the former governor of Lagos State recalled how some powerful nations in the world returned to army generals when they were challenged, saying “Major General Buhari would revive Nigeria’s economy”.

He named the current opposition People’s Democratic Party, PDP as the “Poverty Development Party saying they had nothing to offer.

His words at the time were; “Every nation has a period of their own challenges, when America was challenged, they turned to one great man, their ex-military general, General Eisenhower. When the French were challenged, they turned to their general, Charles de Gaulle.

“When Britain was challenged, they turned to their general. Today, Nigeria is economically and physically challenged so we turn to General Muhammadu Buhari. He is the right man for the job. If you talk about military experience, he has it abundantly, he has courage, simplicity, he has it abundantly.

“If you talk about great determination, a combination of vision and ability to perform, honesty and integrity, he has it abundantly.

“I laugh when the incapable government, ‘Poverty Development Party’ PDP were talking. They have nothing again to say, they now want to question the qualifications of General Buhari and look for his certificate”.

Following the manifestos in 2015 which projected the APC presidential candidate as a ‘saviour’, Buhari defeated the then incumbent president, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan with Nigerians expecting a total change in security and economy.

https://dailypost.ng/2021/09/01/flashback-how-bola-tinubu-spoke-highly-of-buhari-in-2015-named-pdp-poverty-development-party/

givedemwotowoto:
which Tinubu supported all the way to the end, and even promised to continue from where Buhari stopped. Isn't that what happened?

If Tinubu advised Buhari to print more money, was it the kind of printing that Emefiele did? You guys should be reasonable.

Both men were drunk at the time

givedemwotowoto:
This is a rejoinder to Yakubu Dogara, who was recently appointed as Chairman of the Board of the newly established National Credit Guarantee Company by the Tinubu government.

Dogara, in a recent statement, claimed that Buhari destroyed naira through reckless monetary policies, including the printing of N22.7 trillion under the guise of “ways and means.” https://www.nairaland.com/8520797/buharis-printing-22.7trillion-destroyed-naira

Has Dogara forgotten that the man he now works for advised Buhari to print more money, and Buhari did exactly that? Let's refresh everyone's memory in case we have forgotten.



Source: https://punchng.com/tinubu-to-buhari-print-more-naira-notes-suspend-vat/

Fake news

buhari or you mean jubril

givedemwotowoto:
They are suddenly blaming and condemning Buhari for doing exactly what Tinubu advised him to do.

Before you make any excuses for Tinubu, don’t forget, Tinubu knew what Buhari was doing and supported him all the way to the end knowing the economy was being destroyed, even promised to continue from where he stopped.

Shebi Tinubu was Buhari’s Finance Minister plus CBN governor nah

Bar1941:
If Tinubu advised Buhari to print more money, was it the kind of printing that Emefiele did? You guys should be reasonable.

Do you know what "ways and means" borrowing means? It means Buhari borrowed N22.7 trillion naira from the CBN (that is, the CBN printed money and lent to FG). In naija street grammar, it means "CBN borrowed FG 22.7 trillion naira".

Truly I wonder how people's brain work and how they reason. If truly Tinubu advised the president then to print more naira did he tell hime to print it the way he did?. Did he also tell him to print without doing basic planning. Even a child knows what color code is. How can a a while central bank print money of different value yet similar color......

fmlala:
Print more Naira notes does not mean you should not know when it will be in excess or cause a damage to the economy.

See defense. 🤡

erad:
The way people bring past articles and take it out of context is pretty disgusting and shows a pandemic of illiteracy. Just because you can read and write doesn't make you intelligent which has been proven with this pattern.

If you go through the article well, it was during the pandemic. That gives you all the context you need. It was easily explained why he encouraged BUHARI to print more naira due to insufficient access to dollars because of covid lock down. Foreign trade was at an all time low. Countries do this a lot and then mop up the excess currency over time once the emergency is over.

If you'll takle Dogara, tackle him with something more logical, not this.

So you advise someone to print more money, they do exactly that, you support them all the way to the end, and even promise voters to continue from where he stopped, he hands over power to you, then suddenly you realize he destroyed the economy. Make that make sense.

givedemwotowoto:
You’re being too emotional. Use logic and answer this: Is it safe to say Tinubu destroyed Nigeria’s economy under Buhari’s Presidency, and has continued from where he stopped?

Kai see dishonesty and shamelessness. Dogara stated Buhari printed 22 trillion Naira that damaged the Nigerian economy horrendously.

You rush ignorantly to attach Tinubu to what you assume will be a 'bullseye' hit against PBAT you can serve up for your fanatical and illiterate enemies-of-progress army here who lack the capacity to read or research.

Lo and behold, in haste, you did not realize the recommendation of Tinubu was valid and made during COVID 19 when nations were indeed deploying the strategy in effort to facilitate human and economic survival.

Shown your ignorance, rather than retrace steps, you double down in shameless and distractive change of your own topic to now make issues about Tinubu destroyed Nigeria's Presidency under Buhari.

You are shameless. Aside disgracing yourself not acknowledging you erred and owe PBAT an apology, you show you are an incorrigible hater with the claim above in bold because we were all alive then to note Tinubu was not someone Buhari included in his Government let alone took advice from.
[b]
In fact Tinubu was totally ostracized from the Buhari Presidency literally from day one. We all saw this live and in HD despite the desperate lies you all wish to spread now seeking to link Tinubu with the failure of Buhari[ and his cabal./b]

Buhari, as informed Nigerians know, throughout his Presidency, operated and made decisions with an inner and-all powerful cabal consisting of Abba Kyari, Mamman Daura, Issa Pantami, Malami, Ismaila Isa Funtua, Hameed Ali, Babagana Kingibe, Abdulrahman Dambazau, Lawal Daura etal. They had their Southern boy boy and hatchet man Emefiele always available to use CNN as their unlimited ATM


The sad thing is that you people, because of all the malevolent thoughts and emotions driving your behaviour, you will always be amenable to be used by the real enemies of Nigeria Obi is now visiting up and down to prostrate before.

givedemwotowoto:
They are suddenly blaming and condemning Buhari for doing exactly what Tinubu advised him to do.

Before you make any excuses for Tinubu, don’t forget, Tinubu knew what Buhari was doing and supported him all the way to the end knowing the economy was being destroyed, even promised to continue from where he stopped.

If Tinubu ask you to jump into the lagoon... you would jump right?
What then is the usefulness of your brain?
Advise can be taken or rejected.

givedemwotowoto:
They are suddenly blaming and condemning Buhari for doing exactly what Tinubu advised him to do.

Before you make any excuses for Tinubu, don’t forget, Tinubu knew what Buhari was doing and supported him all the way to the end knowing the economy was being destroyed, even promised to continue from where he stopped.

So who should bear the responsibility between Buhari (C-in-C) and Tinubu?

givedemwotowoto:
This is a rejoinder to Yakubu Dogara, who was recently appointed as Chairman of the Board of the newly established National Credit Guarantee Company by the Tinubu government.

Dogara, in a recent statement, claimed that Buhari destroyed naira through reckless monetary policies, including the printing of N22.7 trillion under the guise of “ways and means.” https://www.nairaland.com/8520797/buharis-printing-22.7trillion-destroyed-naira

Has Dogara forgotten that the man he now works for advised Buhari to print more money, and Buhari did exactly that? Let's refresh everyone's memory in case we have forgotten.



Source: https://punchng.com/tinubu-to-buhari-print-more-naira-notes-suspend-vat/

So you think they aren't currently printing, abi how do y'all think they 'met' their annual revenue target by August

I'm amused at the way you're struggling so hard to defend the indefensible

Have you forgotten in a hurry that while Buhari was borrowing N22.7 trillion, Tinubu fully supported him all the way to the end, and even promised to continue from where Buhari stopped? Only to "suddenly realize" Buhari destroyed the economy after Buhari handed over to him?

Disprove that.

WizardOfNG:
Kai see dishonesty and shamelessness. Dogara stated Buhari printed 22 trillion Naira that damaged the Nigerian economy horrendously.

You rush ignorantly to attach Tinubu to what you assume will be a 'bullseye' hit against PBAT you can serve up for your fanatical and illiterate enemies-of-progress army here who lack the capacity to read or research.

Lo and behold, in haste, you did not realize the recommendation of Tinubu was valid and made during COVID 19 when nations were indeed deploying the strategy in effort to facilitate human and economic survival.

Shown your ignorance, rather than retrace steps, you double down in shameless and distractive change of your own topic to now make issues about Tinubu destroyed Nigeria's Presidency under Buhari.

You are shameless. Aside disgracing yourself not acknowledging you erred and owe PBAT an apology, you show you are an incorrigible hater with the claim above in bold because we were all alive then to note Tinubu was not someone Buhari included in his Government let alone took advice from.
[b]
In fact Tinubu was totally ostracized from the Buhari Presidency literally from day one. We all saw this live and in HD despite the desperate lies you all wish to spread now seeking to link Tinubu with the failure of Buhari[ and his cabal./b]

Buhari, as informed Nigerians know, throughout his Presidency, operated and made decisions with an inner and-all powerful cabal consisting of Abba Kyari, Mamman Daura, Issa Pantami, Malami, Ismaila Isa Funtua, Hameed Ali, Babagana Kingibe, Abdulrahman Dambazau, Lawal Daura etal. They had their Southern boy boy and hatchet man Emefiele always available to use CNN as their unlimited ATM

The sad thing is that you people, because of all the malevolent thoughts and emotions driving your behaviour, you will always be amenable to be used by the real enemies of Nigeria Obi is now visiting up and down to prostrate before.

givedemwotowoto:
Do you know what "ways and means" borrowing means? It means Buhari borrowed N22.7 trillion naira from the CBN (that is, the CBN printed money and lent to FG). In naija street grammar, it means "CBN borrowed FG 22.7 trillion naira".

It’s obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WizardOfNG:
@OP.

The only thing you and your co-travellers in ignorance have succeeded doing is to show that primordial hatred of others can indeed comprise intellect and the ability to do basic research to then render even educated folks illiterate.

Tinubu made the valid and economically sound recommendation during COVID 19 while your messiah Obi and the Dubai-dweller Perennial Presidential candidate were silent and nowhere to be found.

This is a policy that made sense to the extent nations adopted it as an emergency strategy to fight a fearful epidemic that plunged humanity into uncertainty over human and economic survival.

Can you or your hero Obi argue economics with Tinubu you should be learning from yet always rushing to insult ? Shior.

Keep shooting yourself in the foot letting hate and emotions dominate your life to keep you ignorant and backwards.

Like the ones buhari contributed while he was in opposition during GEJ time?

The who is subsidizing who, subsidy is a scam bla bla bla, but came in and paid more for subsidy in 2yrs more than what pdp paid in 16yrs of ruling.

You guys r so pathetic n silly, sorry for those who r silly cos you people are more than silly.
You want opposition to give una what to use in running ur govt...

givedemwotowoto:
So you advise someone to print more money, they do exactly that, you support them all the way to the end, and even promise voters to continue from where he stopped, he hands over power to you, then suddenly you realize he destroyed the economy. Make that make sense.

Lol... He advised to print more money during the pandemic, they never did till when it was almost time for next election years after covid. Pay attention to the timing.

The advise he gave was valid for the covid period because that was the period that encountered the challenges he was advising for. If they decided to print more money way after those conditions are no longer valid, do you still blame him for that? We also all know the money printed around the election was purely political and not for economic reasons.

Let me give you an illustration. You were feeling hot in summer and I advised you to take a swim in the pool to feel cooler. You ignored my advise and after some time when it was winter, you decided to take a swim in a partially frozen pool and ended up with hypothermia. Am I still to be blamed for your actions?

Prosperity will judge them all, the shall All meet their end in a very bad fate. He is borrowing with reckless abundant and inflicting more VAT on the poor masses. Wicked people everywhere

Did he listened as at when the advice was given?

Genius101:
Una go lament tire...since it was the best thing to do at the time, why still blaming buhari and still insisting was what destroyed the economy

Bro, you have any formal educational at all? It was only a n economic policy to be deployed because of COVID 19 and not beyond it all the way to literally before Buhari handing over in 2023.

Where do you think Emwfiele got money to be build Abuja Estate of more than 700 duplexa and much more with Tunde Sabiu, Buhari's nephew, reputed to be a recharge card seller, becoming a multi-billionaire overnight?

Is it not obvious Tinubu's recommendation was an emergency policy designed to immediately arrest serious risk to human lives and economic existence of nations, courtesy of a global disease epidemic, that should be removed , to allow human productivity begin growing economies again, once lock down is lifted and people go back to productive work and society can function normally?

Once lock down was over, a vaccine found and economies (i.e public/private sector) opened up again for normal activities why should the policy of printing money, appropriately and validly deployed in a period of emergency and as shown in the image below, be continued?

Do you need to be told the above when you are not a six years old who has the valid excuse of lacking formal education?

I really pity some of you with how you cannot see what you have allowed to compromise the core goodness a human being should have and be about. Your own is to just give a dog a bad name to hang it and you don't even know why you are doing so and how being that way is repellent.

MadPolitician:
Lol
The man speaks from both sides of his mouth and defecates from both sides of his waist..

He supported Buhari on every issue as long as that meant that Buhari would hand over to him.

Now that he has succeeded in "grabbing power and running with it", he has maximum power and doesn't seem to know what to do with it.

The only thing in his mind is to tax, tax and tax..


Set awon "tax and spend" presidency ..
Ndi Tax and Spend

You can say that again...

Suddenly hypocrites are abusing buhari, since na yoruba niru

erad:
Lol... He advised to print more money during the pandemic, they never did till when it was almost time for next election years after covid. Pay attention to the timing.

The advise he gave was valid for the covid period because that was the period that encountered the challenges he was advising for. If they decided to print more money way after those conditions are no longer valid, do you still blame him for that? We also all know the money printed around the election was purely political and not for economic reasons.

Let me give you an illustration. You were feeling hot in summer and I advised you to take a swim in the pool to feel cooler. You ignored my advise and after some time when it was winter, you decided to take a swim in a partially frozen pool and ended up with hypothermia. Am I still to be blamed for your actions?

Buhari took his advise, printed more money, Tinubu continued supporting him all the way to the end, even promising voters to continue from where Buhari stopped. Did you miss that part? When did Tinubu come out and tell us that Buhari has borrowed too much and should stop? Why support him all the way to the end, then suddenly realize he destroyed the economy with borrowing after he handed over to you?

To your last example, the correct illustration is: Your friend who is your senior at work is feeling hot in summer and you advise them to take a swim in the pool. He took a swim in the pool. He continued doing so till the winter but you said nothing, you continued supporting him, and even told people that you'll continue from where he stopped, only for him to get sick from hypothermia, you inherit his job, then start talking trash about him

The man-eating tribe won’t cease amaze. The article clearly stated that it was during the COVID-19 due to economic shutdown, and this wasn’t limited to Nigeria

givedemwotowoto:
Buhari took his advise, printed more money, Tinubu continued supporting him all the way to the end, even promising voters to continue from where Buhari stopped. Did you miss that part? When did Tinubu come out and tell us that Buhari has borrowed too much and should stop? Why support him all the way to the end, then suddenly realize he destroyed the economy with borrowing after he handed over to you?

To your last example, the correct illustration is: Your friend who is your senior at work is feeling hot in summer and you advise them to take a swim in the pool. He took a swim in the pool. He continued doing so till the winter but you said nothing, you continued supporting him, and even told people that you'll continue from where he stopped, only for him to get sick from hypothermia, you inherit his job, then start talking trash about him

Please show me an article or any form of proof that shows Buhari's government printed more money in 2020

WizardOfNG:
Kai see dishonesty and shamelessness. Dogara stated Buhari printed 22 trillion Naira that damaged the Nigerian economy horrendously.

You rush ignorantly to attach Tinubu to what you assume will be a 'bullseye' hit against PBAT you can serve up for your fanatical and illiterate enemies-of-progress army here who lack the capacity to read or research.

Lo and behold, in haste, you did not realize the recommendation of Tinubu was valid and made during COVID 19 when nations were indeed deploying the strategy in effort to facilitate human and economic survival.

Shown your ignorance, rather than retrace steps, you double down in shameless and distractive change of your own topic to now make issues about Tinubu destroyed Nigeria's Presidency under Buhari.

You are shameless. Aside disgracing yourself not acknowledging you erred and owe PBAT an apology, you show you are an incorrigible hater with the claim above in bold because we were all alive then to note Tinubu was not someone Buhari included in his Government let alone took advice from.

In fact Tinubu was totally ostracized from the Buhari Presidency literally from day one. We all saw this live and in HD despite the desperate lies you all wish to spread now seeking to link Tinubu with the failure of Buhari[ and his cabal./b]

Buhari, as informed Nigerians know, throughout his Presidency, operated and made decisions with an inner and-all powerful cabal consisting of Abba Kyari, Mamman Daura, Issa Pantami, Malami, Ismaila Isa Funtua, Hameed Ali, Babagana Kingibe, Abdulrahman Dambazau, Lawal Daura etal. They had their Southern boy boy and hatchet man Emefiele always available to use CNN as their unlimited ATM


The sad thing is that you people, because of all the malevolent thoughts and emotions driving your behaviour, you will always be amenable to be used by the real enemies of Nigeria Obi is now visiting up and down to prostrate before.

Ohhhh. [b]You commented. Hmmmm.

I read through all the comments above and few people made sense, from a macroeconomics perspective.

I advised someone to buy foofoo when he was hungry. Obviously, it was context-based, "hungry". Will I be blamed if the person keeps buying foofoo because he has become addicted to it?

I advised you to change your admin staff and you did but you didn't take my other advice to rearrange your marketing team, which together would bring the desired profits you asked me for, how can it be my fault, as a consultant? How?

Why are people blaming Bola for giving advice in one specific department, when we know an organization (company, church, NGO, government etc) has many moving parts (departments), which must ALL be adjusted to a new normal for each adjustment in any part (department)?

Is it that difficult to understand?

Sometimes, I really feel I should stop coming to this platform. But then, most of the comments here are brilliant when tribalism, politics or hatred are not coloring it.