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BolaAThubv:
If they're not the original offsprings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then you must be.

For your information, Ishmael moved away from his brother Isaac and went to establish himself in the Arabian Peninsula. He had nothing to do with the land of Canaan.

So the jews are the only isrealites

Moreover this guys are isrealis not isrealites and the claim state of Israel not Israel

Proudlyngwa:
So the jews are the only isrealites

Moreover this guys are isrealis not isrealites and the claim state of Israel not Israel

Don't be slow... Nobody uses ...ite again to identify themselves. It used to be Yemenite, now it's Yemenis, Israelites - Israelis, Pakistanis, Qataris, Emiratis etc It has nothing to do with Israel. It's old usage.

Is it not funny how you Muslims are trying so hard to erase these people and their history. You want them gone by every means possible.

But they're not going anywhere. They're back in their land and even a World War cannot remove them from that place.

BolaAThubv:
Don't be slow... Nobody uses ...ite again to identify themselves. It used to be Yemenite, now it's Yemenis, Israelites - Israelis, Pakistanis etc. It has nothing to do with Israel. It's old usage.

Is it not funny how you Muslims are trying so hard to erase these people and their history. You want them gone by every means possible.

But they're not going anywhere. They're back in their land and even a World War cannot remove them from that place.

Are the jews the only isrealites.

And who told you am a Muslim, what concerns muslim or Christianity with ancestry.
Did they tell you that we dont have isrealis that are Muslims.

Mirasteel:
That's a big lie, they are not real Jews. how comes Netanyahu reverted to Judaism and changed his name from Milokowsky? not only him but other prime minister before him?

They are actually Jews. DNA studies proves that they share the same DNA with the Jews(Mizrahi Jews)who never migrated to Europe but lived in palestina for thousands of years.

There are Nigerians who bare foreign names like Edward, Philip etc, does that mean they're Europeans and not Nigerians?
My cousin Monica who was born in Canada and lived there all her life never had any native name until when she came back to Nigeria for the first time in her life, she threw away "Monica" and started answering Ijeoma. Does that mean she's not Igbo but Canadian?

Understand that Jews migrated to Europe hundreds of years ago and while there they took up European names in order to assimilate and also to protect themselves from hostilities, discrimination and persecution especially in Europe, and my did they face a lot of it in Europe especially in Poland, Germany, Austria, Spain and Romania.

And even with their names sounding more European, their neighbours or hosts still could tell that these were not native Europeans.

What no one will tell you I'd that even in Europe they maintained their religion ( for those who were practicing Judaism) and their language. They still spoke Jewish amongst themselves and observed their Jewish festivals etc.

In fact, ask yourself how Hitler was able to Kill 6 million of them if they were indeed Europeans and not Jewish? And Why would an European identify as a Jew in Nazi Germany and Poland when such identity was a death sentence? It doesn't make sense right? It would be better to drop the Jew identity and declare themselves Europeans than to continue bearing the Jewish identity that guarantees their death. The reason is because it is very difficult for a people to deny their roots even in the face of death than for an impostor who would immediately drop the facade when faced with Doom.

Proudlyngwa:
Not all who are children of Israel (Jacob) , Isaac or Abraham are Jewish.
So am not.

Am sorry but that's why I said it's delusional to call yourself descendants of a Semite Neolithic man when you are probably from the Bantu Origin.

Everyone who is or was a children of isreal were all related to Isaac and Abraham one way or another.
I know you're told in your church that Abraham is the father of all Nations, but that's not true, he is the father of a nation, the Hebrew nation ONLY.
You do not have any share in the covenant which he had with God, neither do you have a share in the renewed covenant God had with the children of isreal at Mt Sinai. That covenant was exclusively for the Hebrews, those who can trace their lineage back to the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel.

GeneralOuki:
Am sorry but that's why I said it's delusional to call yourself descendants of a Semite Neolithic man when you are probably from the Bantu Origin.

Everyone who is or was a children of isreal were all related to Isaac and Abraham one way or another.
I know you're told in your church that Abraham is the father of all Nations, but that's not true, he is the father of a nation, the Hebrew nation ONLY.
You do not have any share in the covenant which he had with God, neither do you have a share in the renewed covenant God had with the children of isreal at Mt Sinai. That covenant was exclusively for the Hebrews, those who can trace their lineage back to the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel.

If i may ask what nation.
Hebrew was the old language of the isrealis
The Isrealis are not the only sons of Isaac.
Isaac is not the only son of Abraham
And the jews are not the only Isrealites.

So how exactly do you mean Abraham is the father of a nation

And how does it stop Isaac from being my Father

Christmyhope:
He doesn't have to respond to your question. We, Christians, know the will of God for the Israel because at the fullness of time Israel shall call upon the name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ and he shall rescue them from all their enemies.

I guess Jesus also supports genocide and apartheid.

Its surprising that majority of those being emotional here do not know that Islam is the 2nd biggest religion in isreal. Christianity is not even up to 2%
Christians are forming attachee by force here.

Isreal can easily accept Muslims than Christians.
Tora never believed the existence of jesus Christ.
They maintained the momentum cos of the international recognition and favour it gives them through Christianity
Christianity is the brain child of Europe
Isreal rejected it cos they never accepted jesus.
Have any of you ever read the torah?
You go to church, your men of God will tell you to fight anybody who fight isreal. No, they are protecting their investments.
As for the Muslims, what the Europeans did with Christianity is what they are currently doing. And oh, Christianity did worst. So if you are blaming Muslims, know that the name jihadist were first used on Christians.

Religion except your ancestral religion is a means of political control.
That was what Europe used to conquer the world.
Islam is doing theirs. They will peak and start going down like Christianity.
No right thinking person in this era takes both serious unless you do not want to experience freedom of mind. Thats the best gift ever.

spiSeyi:
The real Israeli are the minorities who leaved in the West Bank and in Palestine

They are,so also are the Israelites scattered all over Europe by many years of war because of their disobedient to God but He promised to bring them back to their land afterward.

Jeremiah 30:2-3 KJV
Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book. [3] For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

Ezekiel 34:11-13 KJV
For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. [12] As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. [13] And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

It's the fulfilment of these promises that happened in 1948 after second world war when children of Israel scattered abroad were brought back to their land.

Proudlyngwa:
If i may ask what nation.
Hebrew was the old language of the isrealis
The Isrealis are not the only sons of Isaac.
Isaac is not the only son of Abraham
And the jews are not the only Isrealites.

So how exactly do you mean Abraham is the father of a nation

And how does it stop Isaac from being my Father

well indeed Isaac was not the only Son of Abraham, he had Ishmael too. And he was also a Semite.

Isaac also had another son Esau/Edom and he was the forefather of the Edomites who are now officially absorbed into present day Israel. Esau or Edom was also a Semite.

If you're neither from the tribes of Ishmaelites, Isrealites or Edomites, you have no lineage linking you to Abraham nor Isaac.

Even Abraham's other relatives were in mesopotamia and they too were Semitic people. So as an African, you have no link to Abraham or Isaac or even Jacob and shouldn't claim either of them as your ancestors.

GeneralOuki:
well indeed Isaac was not the only Son of Abraham, he had Ishmael too. And he was also a Semite.

Isaac also had another son Esau/Edom and he was the forefather of the Edomites who are now officially absorbed into present day Israel. Esau or Edom was also a Semite.

If you're neither from the tribes of Ishmaelites, Isrealites or Edomites, you have no lineage linking you to Abraham nor Isaac.

Even Abraham's other relatives were in mesopotamia and they too were Semitic people. So as an African, you have no link to Abraham or Isaac or even Jacob and shouldn't claim either of them as your ancestors.

You need to do more research about other tribes other than that of Judah and Benjamin

And as i asked do you know me personally to know that Isaac is not my father

N.B
Edomites assumed to be in Jordan and not absorbed to only present day Isrealites

Proudlyngwa:
You need to do more research about other tribes other than that of Judah and Benjamin

And as i asked do you know me personally to know that Isaac is not my father

N.B
Edomites assumed to be in Jordan and not absorbed to only present day Isrealites

I should do more research on tribes other than Judah and Benjamin? You mean the tribes of Dan, Nathaniel, Levi, Reuben, Simeon, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebelum and Joseph?
Are you perhaps the part of the people who confuse themselves to be of the tribe of Gad without any DNA testing to prove it?

the western part of Edom which includes the Negev Highlands, and the Arabah valley is part of present day Israel. I have stayed in Eilat which is in the Negev so I know what I'm talking about.

GeneralOuki:
I should do more research on tribes other than Judah and Benjamin? You mean the tribes of Dan, Nathaniel, Levi, Reuben, Simeon, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebelum and Joseph?
Are you perhaps the part of the people who confuse themselves to be of the tribe of Gad without any DNA testing to prove it?

the western part of Edom which includes the Negev Highlands, and the Arabah valley is part of present day Israel. I have stayed in Eilat which is in the Negev so I know what I'm talking about.

I have asked you , one simple question and you have constantly answered based on your emotions.

Do you know me personally to know Isaac is not my father.

Back to the original convo.

The kingdom of Israel was divided into 2 nothern and southern, the nothern became judea, the kingdom of Israel as we know it pre solomon era has ceased to exist.

Now my initial statement is based on 2 things, the curse of Jesus to Jerusalem and the fact that not all sons of Isaac are Jews and that even those who are claiming jews might not be pure Hebrew as contamination with europeans is evident.

Whatever you are arguing I don't understand as there is no clarity on whatever you have been talking about, based on what I initially wrote.

Proudlyngwa:
I have asked you , one simple question and you have constantly answered based on your emotions.

Do you know me personally to know Isaac is not my father.

Back to the original convo.

The kingdom of Israel was divided into 2 nothern and southern, the nothern became judea, the kingdom of Israel as we know it pre solomon era has ceased to exist.

Now my initial statement is based on 2 things, the curse of Jesus to Jerusalem and the fact that not all sons of Isaac are Jews and that even those who are claiming jews might not be pure Hebrew as contamination with europeans is evident.

Whatever you are arguing I don't understand as there is no clarity on whatever you have been talking about, based on what I initially wrote.

Then you state clearly how Isaac is your father. Of course I don't know you personally but I deduce that you're a native to one of the ethnic groups in Nigeria. If that's is correct then that rules you out as a descendant of Isaac, if not then State your ethnic and how you're related to Isaac.

Anyway, after the division of the kingdom, Judea became the southern kingdom with it's capital as Jerusalem, isreal became the northern kingdom with samaria as it's capital.

The "curse of Jesus to Jerusalem" is literally a prophecy on the destruction of Jerusalem for their rejection of his message, I fail to see how that makes you a descendant of Isaac, kindly elaborate.

Not all sons of Isaac are Hebrew/Isrealites/Jews, but they were all Semites not Bantus. And you have yet to explain how your lineage links back to Isaac or Abraham.

Let me ask you again, how are you able to trace your lineage back to Isaac and Abraham?

GeneralOuki:
Then you state clearly how Isaac is your father. Of course I don't know you personally but I deduce that you're a native to one of the ethnic groups in Nigeria. If that's is correct then that rules you out as a descendant of Isaac, if not then State your ethnic and how you're related to Isaac.

Anyway, after the division of the kingdom, Judea became the southern kingdom with it's capital as Jerusalem, isreal became the northern kingdom with samaria as it's capital.

The "curse of Jesus to Jerusalem" is literally a prophecy on the destruction of Jerusalem for their rejection of his message, I fail to see how that makes you a descendant of Isaac, kindly elaborate.

Not all sons of Isaac are Hebrew/Isrealites/Jews, but they were all Semites not Bantus. And you have yet to explain how your lineage links back to Isaac or Abraham.

Let me ask you again, how are you able to trace your lineage back to Isaac and Abraham?

So we come to some conclusion
You don't know me or my father, yet made ads on that.

The jews are not the only descendants of Abraham.

Jerusalem will know no peace until the say holy is he who comes in the name of the lord.

That is my first post and remains my Post.

Good day

Proudlyngwa:
So we come to some conclusion
You don't know me or my father, yet made ads on that.

The jews are not the only descendants of Abraham.

Jerusalem will know no peace until the say holy is he who comes in the name of the lord.

That is my first post and remains my Post.

Good day

Lol... So at the end of the day I was actually correct that you have no lineage with Abraham and Isaac despite your claims.

The Jews are not the only descendants of Abraham, but you're not related to any of those other descendants.

For God's sake how will Palestinians claim that Jerusalem is their own when historically everybody knows that it is the capital of the Israelites since the time of David.

89green:
But this was same man who bombed the church in Gaza, how far. That period you went mute.

Same man wanted by the International Criminal Court

International criminal minded terrorist sympathisers know where he is. They can go there and catch if they really wanted him.

descarado:
Its surprising that majority of those being emotional here do not know that Islam is the 2nd biggest religion in isreal. Christianity is not even up to 2%
Christians are forming attachee by force here.

Isreal can easily accept Muslims than Christians.
Tora never believed the existence of jesus Christ.
They maintained the momentum cos of the international recognition and favour it gives them through Christianity
Christianity is the brain child of Europe
Isreal rejected it cos they never accepted jesus.
Have any of you ever read the torah?
You go to church, your men of God will tell you to fight anybody who fight isreal. No, they are protecting their investments.
As for the Muslims, what the Europeans did with Christianity is what they are currently doing. And oh, Christianity did worst. So if you are blaming Muslims, know that the name jihadist were first used on Christians.

Religion except your ancestral religion is a means of political control.
That was what Europe used to conquer the world.
Islam is doing theirs. They will peak and start going down like Christianity.
No right thinking person in this era takes both serious unless you do not want to experience freedom of mind. Thats the best gift ever.

Islam is a religion in Israel because Israel decided to accept and allow the Arabs who took Israel citizenship after Israel was granted a State. Otherwise the real Israelis are mostly Judaist and some Christians. The muslims are Arab Israelis and enjoy all the privileges and rights of citizens of Israel, and freedom of worship. Nobody attacks or burns their mosques. Can you compare that to what happens in other Islamic countries where both Jews and Christians are attacked and churches/synagogues burnt?

mikeapollo:
Islam is a religion in Israel because Israel decided to accept and allow the Arabs who took Israel citizenship after Israel was granted a State. Otherwise the real Israelis are mostly Judaist and some Christians. The muslims are Arab Israelis and enjoy all the privileges and rights of citizens of Israel, and freedom of worship. Nobody attacks or burns their mosques. Can you compare that to what happens in other Islamic countries where both Jews and Christians are attacked and churches/synagogues burnt?

Why is Islam in countries like UK, America?
Rest.

I need to read more and find out the truth or you and the rest of you need to be truthful in life. Can God say yes and anyone say no, they are seeing themselves as if they can change the word of God, they went as far as claiming Jerusalem all because of religion, is the word Jerusalem a Palestinians language. You people are supporting people that are trying to wipe out the entire nation all because of generational covenant between isaac and Ismael, and you people pretend as if nothing like this happens, because nobody is talking about God anymore all in the name of politics. Some will even go as far as saying that those isrealite of then is no more, they have been perish that it is US that bring all this one during the oslo agreement.

Mirasteel:
You need to read more about everything, do your own research and find out thd truth yourself.

Elusive001:
And so? Does it change any of the promises GOD Almighty made to the Jews?

So you wan make I hate jews come side una muslims? Ekwensu a bia uka

those you talk about don't believe that you exist!

Chetas81:
those you talk about don't believe that you exist!

But GOD Almighty knows that i exist. That's enough for me.