₦airaland Forum

Kylekent59:
Churches are now run in a similar manner to politics.

The church's purpose is to win souls.

I can't remember the last time Nigerian churches won souls for God.

All they know is money, tithes, contributions, building structures, and so on. They forgot the church's main purpose.


Let them return to the Bible.

Odewaleadesoye:
Nigeria Anglican Church Creates 15 New Dioceses, Elects New Bishops



PUNCH NG | CoN Communication Officer

Image123:
There's no tax burden on anyone. Tax is a normal part of society. Jesus paid tax and encouraged His followers to. The new tax reform is much better than the current one.
Kindly compare and contrast intelligently, or try to remain silent and learn on things you don't understand.

marlow1962:
A none governmental institute can also create jobs just like how the government does.

Is Tesla a governmental institute?
Do Tesla create employment opportunities?
Your answers are good as mine.

Sagefromtheeast:
Is Tesla a church?
Why people logically deprived?

Beremx:
Seems SE doesn't need new diocese. Do people still attend Anglican church in the SE? Probably a few. The Catholic Church still remains the biggest Christian denomination in the SE.

Beremx:
Seems SE doesn't need new diocese. Do people still attend Anglican church in the SE? Probably a few. The Catholic Church still remains the biggest Christian denomination in the SE.

Kylekent59:
Churches are now run in a similar manner to politics.

The church's purpose is to win souls.

I can't remember the last time Nigerian churches won souls for God.

All they know is money, tithes, contributions, building structures, and so on. They forgot the church's main purpose.


Let them return to the Bible.

marlow1962:
As they're creating dioceses, they should also create jobs.

marlow1962:
As they're creating dioceses, they should also create jobs.

ebuka1511:
Ok oh, this is just not right and feasible. The Anglican Communion is trying to compete with the Pentecostal churches on expansion, forgetting the time we live in. Let us face it, among the existing Dioceses currently running, how many amongst them are self-sustaining, outside the mother Dioceses?

Come to Rivers State, using Oyigbo LGA as a case study. We have up to four different Dioceses there, listed as follows: Evo Diocese, Ukwa Diocese, Etche Diocese, and a part of the Niger-Delta Diocese (Iriebe areas, with boundaries that include Umuebule IV). A surprising trend is that all these Dioceses are outcompeting themselves at Church Planting. Some churches are in rented homes / shops! My own Anglican Church, in a rented hall!!.

Now what you will notice is that there are lots of fundraising, and fund appeals by these small churches to their members and then, these churches are being given unrealistic "Quota" amounts to be paid to their head Dioceses. The result is that you will see real Anglicans leaving the church for other Pentecostal Churches due to the incessant fundraising and fund appeals in the church.

It is a pity that the Anglican Church I grew up in has now changed drastically. Quantity has been prioritised over quality, and it is so sad. In my town, with 12 villages in Anambra state, it is just 4 years ago that another Anglican church was planted in my town making it just 2 Anglican churches in a town of almost 200,000 inhabitants, (before this, we just have 1 Anglican church), which has a functioning and running School, which is cool, but where I currently live, We have the presence of 4 Dioceses with more than 10 different Anglican churches across 4 Dioceses, and population is less than my town of origin.

Now what do we see? Reverends whose salaries are not paid on time and poorly renumerated, uninhabitable buildings for churches and scanty membership across all the churches.

Growing up, Churches were grand edifices with stained colored window glasses, huge expanse of land with an attached space for cemetery. I guess it is the time we find ourselves now, I might just be old school, but the more Dioceses been created especially in areas already saturated will not help the growth of the Anglican church, many of these churches cannot sustain theirselves, (Recall my village church has a full fledge school from Nursery to Secondary school with full population) many members are leaving the church to churches where they are not been tasked always to raise funds for the church.

I wish the Primate Head of the Anglican Communion will look into this.

fergie001:
Again, no Bishop-Elect from Eket, the Missionary Diocese was created from Uyo Diocese. The Diocesan Bishop of Uyo is in the morgue - died days ago, so the Standing Committee elected that Eket shouldn't have one until Rt Revd Owen Akafia is laid to rest.

Ebenezer Adewole is the Dean of Cathedral - AVMCC, always knew it was his time. Deans of the Cathedral have this edge - Segun Adewole went on to Kwara Diocese (now retired), Vens. Akinade & Oshewa died on the seat.

Prelate, so no Ojo/Festac, why? We don reach 7 Archdeaconries nah!
AVMCC too far oooooo

owunabastard:
You know much about Anglican Church, kudos to you
By selecting bishop, can a venerable( Archdeacon) be promoted to Bishop? or is it only the Revd Cannons that can be made a Bishop?

iwaeda:
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, God's only Son. Congratulations to the them. Is St James Iludun a Diocese now, Mr. Odewale.

marlow1962:
School is never a scam brother, you can do better.

fergie001:
The Church has three orders: Deacons, Priests and Bishops (Every Priest from the Primate down falls within these three).

Archdeacon to Bishop is the normal hierarchical route, however, the Bishopric upwards is an elective position. Priests are ordained, Canons are preferred, Archdeacons are collated, Bishops are elected and later consecrated. In the Diocese of Lagos West, Nigeria's richest and most competitive Anglican Diocese....every available vacancy for Bishopric will most likely see a Venerable from there get a slot, but not in the mother Lagos Diocese (for some reasons I won't explain here)

A Revd Canon is still far off to becoming a Bishop... He has to go through been a Venerable or Archdeacon before becoming a Bishop. The process from Revd Canon to Venerable takes between. 4-10 years depending on the Diocese.
You can be a Venerable but not an Archdeacon but you can't be an Archdeacon without been a Venerable.

Infact, in some cases, persons go to the Venerable rank without even the Canon position, it depends on the Bishop, the Priest in particular, the number of years he has put in and his role in the church, again, how (un)competitive the Diocese is.

It is in very rare terms you see a Revd Canon becoming a Bishop direct...it is usually in a Missionary Diocese (this is my second time seeing such) .... Some conditions are in place, it's either the Canon is from that axis or very close to that place where it is easy to spread the gospel and also acquire infrastructure - financial and equipment, for the young Diocese. IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO BECOME A BISHOP OF A MISSIONARY DIOCESE OR BISHOP OF A NEW DIOCESE..... It is hardddddddd workkkkkkkk!

Again, the dynamic of that new Missionary Diocese is also a factor.

iwaeda:
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, God's only Son. Congratulations to the them. Is St James Iludun a Diocese now, Mr. Odewale.

fergie001:
So you are Anglican too?

That's good.....

iwaeda:
I am a communicant.

fergie001:
It's a Missionary Diocese, that's why.
He is most likely from that place.

fergie001:
The Church has three orders: Deacons, Priests and Bishops (Every Priest from the Primate down falls within these three).

Archdeacon to Bishop is the normal hierarchical route, however, the Bishopric upwards is an elective position. Priests are ordained, Canons are preferred, Archdeacons are collated, Bishops are elected and later consecrated. In the Diocese of Lagos West, Nigeria's richest and most competitive Anglican Diocese....every available vacancy for Bishopric will most likely see a Venerable from there get a slot, but not in the mother Lagos Diocese (for some reasons I won't explain here)

A Revd Canon is still far off to becoming a Bishop... He has to go through been a Venerable or Archdeacon before becoming a Bishop. The process from Revd Canon to Venerable takes between. 4-10 years depending on the Diocese.
You can be a Venerable but not an Archdeacon but you can't be an Archdeacon without been a Venerable.

Infact, in some cases, persons go to the Venerable rank without even the Canon position, it depends on the Bishop, the Priest in particular, the number of years he has put in and his role in the church, again, how (un)competitive the Diocese is.

It is in very rare terms you see a Revd Canon becoming a Bishop direct...it is usually in a Missionary Diocese (this is my second time seeing such) .... Some conditions are in place, it's either the Canon is from that axis or very close to that place where it is easy to spread the gospel and also acquire infrastructure - financial and equipment, for the young Diocese. IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO BECOME A BISHOP OF A MISSIONARY DIOCESE OR BISHOP OF A NEW DIOCESE..... It is hardddddddd workkkkkkkk!

Again, the dynamic of that new Missionary Diocese is also a factor.

fergie001:
The Church has three orders: Deacons, Priests and Bishops (Every Priest from the Primate down falls within these three).

Archdeacon to Bishop is the normal hierarchical route, however, the Bishopric upwards is an elective position. Priests are ordained, Canons are preferred, Archdeacons are collated, Bishops are elected and later consecrated. In the Diocese of Lagos West, Nigeria's richest and most competitive Anglican Diocese....every available vacancy for Bishopric will most likely see a Venerable from there get a slot, but not in the mother Lagos Diocese (for some reasons I won't explain here)

A Revd Canon is still far off to becoming a Bishop...


Again, the dynamic of that new Missionary Diocese is also a factor.