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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:08am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:Unfortunately she might still lose for bringing this out because 1. Her pof shows her family is capable of catering for her till end of study 2. She's suppose to come back to naija after completion of study, the youkay government already know we are using study to japa. People are really suffering and depressed with this study route yet more people are still trooping in. I sympathise with her but there's nothing anyone can do |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 10:08am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:Actually, he's correct. Propaganda can either be positive or negative. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:09am On Sep 20, 2025 |
akwesenana:Bros if you and I no do well, Another person suppose do well na |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 10:16am On Sep 20, 2025 |
Mark Perlmutter, an American doctor working in Gaza, stated Israeli snipers were deliberately targeting children. He stated "No toddler gets shot twice by mistake by the 'world's best sniper.' And they're dead-center shots." In a letter addressed to US President Joe Biden, a group of American doctors and nurses returning from Gaza stated, "Every one of us on a daily basis treated pre-teen children who were shot in the head and chest" These are atrocities some are defending here. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:33am On Sep 20, 2025 |
semid4lyfe:What is positive propaganda? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:36am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:[color=royalblue]If you smoke, you'll die If you knack without protection, you'll catch HIV. If the biased point is to bring a positive change, it can be positive propaganda [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:39am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:[color=royalblue] Unfortunately for her, Nigeria has lost a lot of it's good will abroad. Any truth dey sound like lie. Her story reminds me of the need to have a family. Not necessarily your blood, but people that can offer you comfort when your chips are down No man or woman should go through life alone. It's tough. I pray her misfortune is turned around [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 10:39am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:Deliberate spread and dissemination of information, ideas and opinions to achieve a beneficial outcome. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:40am On Sep 20, 2025 |
iamoyindamola:1. Yes her PoF definitely showed her family "was" capable, but it seems her father's demise changed everything. 2. She's not yet done with her school. The program she's running is B.Sc and not M.Sc that takes 1 to 2 years to complete. Most likely she planned on returning to naija after school because she mentioned in the video that she appealed to the school for them to allow her even continue her degree online when she gets to naija but they denied her appeal. She was really interested in completing her program and earning that degree. That study route is very tough especially for students who dont have financially buoyant sponsors back home. Unfortunately she broke the law and I don't think there's anything she can do to salvage the matter because it seems UK immigration laws have tightened in recent times |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:42am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:This is not propaganda, it is a factual stament that smokers can die and knacking without protection can lead to HIV. You need to check the meaning of propaganda first before u define positive propaganda |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Trevor012(m): 10:44am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:Is the university system in America different from the one in Nigeria because I don't understand how you will be a student in a university setting and not have friends to hang around with unless it's by choice. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:44am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:[color=royalblue]"Can die", not "Will Die". I said "Will". Propaganda is just a biased statement. While it tends to lean mostly on the negative, it can be for the positive.[/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:44am On Sep 20, 2025 |
semid4lyfe:That is not propaganda. Dissemination of information, ideas and opinions doesn't constitute propaganda. Propaganda in itself includes half-truths and rumors that may not necessarily be true. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Trevor012(m): 10:45am On Sep 20, 2025 |
A001 longest time o. I haven't seen you post you In a while. Are you good ? I dey miss you enlightenment ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:46am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:No, propaganda includes half-truths and rumors that may not necessarily be true as well as facts too. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:46am On Sep 20, 2025 |
Trevor012:[color=royalblue]I have heard a lot of stories of people abroad who go through loneliness. I really don't know how it works there. I know universities are a bubbling space for relationships. I surprise say person dey lonely for there.[/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:46am On Sep 20, 2025 |
Their are always three sides to a story, My side, your side and the truth..
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:47am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:[color=royalblue]Okay If the half truth is going to bring a positive change, can we call it "Positive propaganda?" [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:51am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:Unfortunately most people who travel as single student and are introverts always struggle to build personal relationships with people abroad they can lay their head on his or her shoulder. I juts feel she should've been cautious of the number of hours she can work even in her grief. There are some things one should not just do. I mean for example she didn't drink poison while mourning her father because she knows doing that will kill her Irrespective of how sad she felt. I same vein, She should also have had it at the back of her mind that working more than the 20 hours allowable would send her back to Nigeria. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:53am On Sep 20, 2025 |
Melvyn11:Those children were responsible for Oct 7 attack.... |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:55am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou: ![]() That person dey give u half truth already shows they are not being honest na. See the half truths NNPC management gave about the state of our refinery over and over again. You see how everybody was elated at the news of the refinery being fully operational ; APC banger boys abused OBJ that said the refinery won't work years ago and the whole APC media were singing praises about how APC government finally made the moribound Warri and PH refineries work. What happened when fact overtook the propaganda? 🧏 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by kodded(m): 10:56am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:propaganda means propagating an agenda If the agenda is for the common good for all, then it's positive but if it's for the benefit of the one propagating it, then it's negative |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 10:57am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:You believe propaganda has only a negative connotation. I believe it can be either positive or negative. No problem. Morale low and I no get strength to engage you. Make we just agree to disagree agreeably. Safe. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 11:01am On Sep 20, 2025 |
semid4lyfe:Well, the word usually comes with a negative connotation. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:01am On Sep 20, 2025 |
semid4lyfe:It's not about me believing whether it is positive or negative ; it's the definition of propaganda in government/politics I've known for a long time. Dissemination of combination of truth, half-truths, rumors and facts. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:06am On Sep 20, 2025 |
kodded:It's not just agenda ; it includes facts, rumors, half-truths and even lies to influence public opinion. That is the basic definition of propaganda. If u now want to move to positive propaganda then u can proceed from here to explain what positive propaganda is while not forgetting what propaganda is in itself
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:06am On Sep 20, 2025 |
BlueRayDick:[color=royalblue] I'm not saying this because of the APC leader oh. I'm saying that any propaganda for a positive change is positive. Parents use propaganda to teach their children good manners and behaviors. It's mostly to keep them safe. Propaganda is almost everywhere, amd for many, it's to keep people in check. If you remove Nigeria politics from this discussion, you will see positive propaganda [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:08am On Sep 20, 2025 |
[color=royalblue]"To avoid explosion, do not answer phone calls in a Petrol station" That's propaganda. But the aim is to ensure that the customer has all of their concentration on what they are doing. Nothing is going to explode because you answered a call. Remove Nigerian politicians, positive propaganda exists, Blueraydick [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:17am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:It's not just Nigerian politics I'm even talking about, I'm talking about propaganda in politics in general. It's the same thing everywhere. Oppsoition will try to use propaganda to sway the people to believe they are better than the ruling class and if given a chance to rule they do things far better than the ruling class are presently doing. The ruling party too will always deploy propaganda to project incumbent government's policies and programs. They will employ facts, half truths, deliberate omission of facts and even pedestrian arguments to convince the citizens that the government is doing the best they can. They can pick an economic report, turn it over its head to sell the idea that the economy is booming. For example the government can tell you the GDP is growing and that means the citizens are better off than tbey were when the ruling party took over. But they will deliberately omit GDP per capital that has been on the decline, they will omit world bank data that claimed tens of millions of citizens have been thrown below the poverty level and also deliberately avoid talking about inflation rate. Such government can do that with the aim of emitting positive reaction from the citizenry ; so they may call it positive propaganda. But I believe propaganda is propaganda |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:20am On Sep 20, 2025 |
izzou:I have just responded to this post in my last post before this one. I'm not talking about Nigerian politics in particular. I know what propaganda is and I've know what it is not long time ago; long before I was even interested in Nigerian politics |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 11:26am On Sep 20, 2025 |
I saw MrJaay viewing. He should help us put this propaganda debate to bed as an expert in Journalism and Media studies. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 11:33am On Sep 20, 2025 |
raumdeuter:Nice one. Have already completed my 15,000 steps for the day this morning. Took kids to their dancing lesson, left my car there and went for 5km light jog then walked/jogged back the same 5km to pick them up completing my steps for the day. Now taking them to swimming lesson for 30 mins where I will branch the gym next door and hit my biceps, triceps and shoulders then I can retire to watching EPL for the day with clean conscience.
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